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HTC S710 'Vox' to TyTn II (Kaiser) - Migration, How do I get my data/sms/etc across

Hi all,
I need some help please. I received my TyTn II yesterday and now I need to shift all my data (contacts, tasks, sms, etc.) across to the TyTn II before selling my S710.
I know I can use Outlook syncing to get the contacts and tasks across, but can someone please confirm exactly what process I should use as I've previously had syncs wipe the data on my PC when connecting a fresh phone to try and get data onto it. I have already been using the S710 to sync with Outlook 2007 on this PC (ActiveSync 4.5).
Also, can someone please tell me how to get my texts (sms) onto the TyTn II from the S710? - I've got Sprite Backup 6 on the S710, but I don't know whether the "upgrade" backup file option will work between a WM6 Smartphone and a WM6 Professional device. I've actually tried to restore just the "personal databases" from an S710 backup onto my TyTn II but the SMS's don't show up, only call lists and contacts.
Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
- Odie

Get PIMBackup. It's somewhere on the Forum here, and can backup your TXT messages fine!
Heck, I actually used it last week to copy 2600 SMS messages from my Nokia N80 (outputted to .csv) into my Kaiser...
It works great!

I don't actually think that DotFred's PPCPIMbackup - to give it its' real name - will work on a SmartPhone....as the name suggests, it's for "PPC" or Pocket PC devices.
You could ask the man himself - post in the thread in the Development & Hacking forum HERE, or visit his website DotFred.net.
Mark.

Thanks for the suggestions.
I think it might work if I can get my Vox SMS output as CSV, I think I've seen a program that does this. Then I can use PPCPIMbackup to import them into the Kaiser.

contacts, mail, agenda can be synch with outlook
for sms you can save them to SIM

Thanks for all of your replies.
As I had hoped, the contacts and tasks synced successfully from my laptop's Outlook 2007 (after getting the latest stuff synced from my S710)
Notes seem to have messed up in that my multi-line notes have been split into multiple single-line notes. I'm not too fussed about this as I didn't have that many notes anyway, but it's a little disappointing.
Now as for the SMS, I managed to get it done pretty painlessly using a fantastic program called Jeyo Mobile Companion (it runs on the PC rather than the device itself). It supports both WM Smartphone and WM Professional, and exports the SMS database as an XML file, which I then managed to import onto my Kaiser. Everything went smoothly, all items seem to be present and in the correct folders too. Fantastic!
- Odie

Hi to all
I have a problem related to import sms into TYTN II. I have all my old sms that I received on my Samsung D500 in a csv file, but I cant import into TYTN II because Jeyo doesn't read csv and also PIM backup restore only pib file..
Is there any solution??
Thanks

Redah said:
Get PIMBackup. It's somewhere on the Forum here, and can backup your TXT messages fine!
Heck, I actually used it last week to copy 2600 SMS messages from my Nokia N80 (outputted to .csv) into my Kaiser...
It works great!
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A bit out of topic: What is the format of the csv file?
I'm trying to import my sms's from my K800

alt236 said:
A bit out of topic: What is the format of the csv file?
I'm trying to import my sms's from my K800
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CSV stand for Comma separated value and means that the value [in contact are Name, Surname, Number, etc...] are separated by the comma "," or other punctuation... Wikipedia This format can be open with Excel and convert to xls format...
Do you have your sms in csv format?? How can you import in the TYTN??
Thanks
Bye

I know waht csv is
I was asking for the csv format (the column order, wether or not text should be double quote enclosed) that PIMBackup is using for importing the sms.
I got them into a csv file using Float's Mobile Agent it should work for almost all Sony Ericsson mobiles.

alt236 said:
I know waht csv is
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Sorry, misunderstood...
alt236 said:
I was asking for the csv format (the column order, wether or not text should be double quote enclosed) that PIMBackup is using for importing the sms.
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I made a backup with "Binary backup" disable and PIMBackup made a .pib file that I opened with 7zip and I found a .csm file. I opened it with Notepad and I found this code for the csv:
Code:
Msg Id;Sender Name;Sender Address;Sender AddressType;Prefix;Subject;Body;BodyType;Folder;Account;Msg Class;Content Length;Msg Size;Msg Flags;Msg Status;Modify Time;Delivery Time;Recipient Nbr;Recipients;Attachment Nbr;Attachments
Now i will try to edit this csm with my csv info and try to restore... I hope thet it works...

Calendar Question...

Would appreciate some instructions on how I can transfer my Calender information when moving my SIM card between my TYTN II and my Touch Dual. The main phone I use is the TyTN II but I also use the Touch Dual and would like to keep my Calendar information on which ever phone Iam using. I do use ActiveSync, but do not use Outlook. Please help. Thanks!

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rrollens said:
Would appreciate some instructions on how I can transfer my Calender information when moving my SIM card between my TYTN II and my Touch Dual. The main phone I use is the TyTN II but I also use the Touch Dual and would like to keep my Calendar information on which ever phone Iam using. I do use ActiveSync, but do not use Outlook. Please help. Thanks!
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Hi rrollens, this solution might be a little bit like a workaround:
Copy PIM Backup (freeware, attached file) on both devices.
Every time you switch phones make a backup of the appointments and
transfer it over bluetooth to the other device. Restore the appointment
backup... Should not take so much time as it sounds
(By the way, you can also backup call logs, contacts, messages, speed dials
and/or tasks with PIM Backup. And no, I'm not paid for this advertisement )
Maybe someone has a better solution...
Have a nice weekend and a happy new year,
Hans Olo

I have a Google Calendar account and I syncronize it with two PDA via Oggsync. When I add or change something in a PDA I syncronize it with Google Calendar then I syncronize the other PDA. Oggsync is free and allows two-way sync.
In this way I can add or modify anything in my calendar in any of my PDAs or in my computer at home or at work and get all syncronized in a simple way.

Personally i feel its an overkill to take backup and restore everytime when i switch phones!
Best is use Syncing feature, but u said u dont use Outlook,
So the next best thing is use any freely available SyncML server.
Compelson, or Funambol
Or Setup your own SyncML server !!

Thanks to all for your ideas and comments. I think Ill start using Outlook...it seems to be the simplest solution.

Got my Kaiser! How to transfer all from Wizard to Kaiser?

The topic says it all... I have a new Kaiser (arriving in a few days by mail) and I want to move everything (not the apps of course), i.e., calendar entries, notes, contacts etc. from my old Wizard phone to my new Kaiser.
HOW?
Thanks
-John

sync with outlook ?

Rudegar said:
sync with outlook ?
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Ya can't get more precise and concise with that answer!! Unles you are not using Outlook.
Best way is the standard way....
EDIT, maybe be you can...Ensure on first Sync you replace all information on your new device with all from computer. Sometimes a standard Sync can delete your Outlook info replicating your new device.

Never used Outlook before... I'll give it a try.

Well, you can use pimbackup to backup contacts, recent calls, etc and transfer that backup file to the kaiser and restore it(Just a theory but its just crazy enough to work!!!!) As for programs, and personalized settings(themes, etc) your going to have to redo those!!

use pimbackup
pimbackup does the job nicely - backup to an sd card, move the card and do a restore - get pimbackup here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705

Here is how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages!

As I have been sifting through the forum I have come across several threads about people wanting to know how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages.
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
Well here's how to get rid of it.
First you will need a registry editor, I recommend Resco Registry editor but others will work fine.
Then you will need to make a backup of the registry key we are going to delete. So open up your registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc
Now in here you will find several folders(so to speak). These include Activesync, imap4, pop3, MMS1 and SMS.
Go into Activesync and their should be a key called "Friendly Name" this should say something like "Outlook" go back to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc then select the "Activesync" folder and use menu to export the folder as a .reg file (backup file) then select the "Activesync" folder again, but this time delete it.
Now close your reg editor and go into messages and the Outlook title should be replaced with the title Activesync. Just soft-reset your device and the Outlook mailbox including "Activesync" has now disappeared leaving just the e-mail accounts and other message accounts that you use whilst mobile.
Should you wish to restore this option just inport the .reg file you created into the registry and soft-reset and it'll be back.
Well I hope this helps. And quick thanks to all members of this forum for your continued support to the community and even helping the little guys.
diigibio (diigimatrix)

worked on my Tilt
Thanks! Great solution!
EDIT: Wiped out my outgoing MMS. Dropped registry backup back in and both MMS and Outlook Mail were back.

diigibio said:
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
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Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?

What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.

dis39tif said:
What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.
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Each of these folders represent an account within messages. So "Activesync" is "outlook" (used and updated when syncing with a pc version of outlook or using an exchange server), IMAP4 Corresponds to my (@btinternet.com/using imap), SMS is for SMS (go figure/lol), MMS1 (this can also just be MMS on some device/dependant on version of Arcsoft) POP is for my (@3mail) account and Hotmail is for hotmail (in juction with using Windows live).
So by deleting the "activesync" folder you are in effect deleting the information to display the account.
Also I deleted the imap4 folder (after making a backup of course of the reg entry) And soft-reset the device. It removed my @btinternet account with e-mails. But after i imported the .reg backup I made and soft-reset the device again the account returned with all e-mails intact and fully readable.
**Possibility for a freeware app to hide accounts that are private??? using a password to auto add/remore .reg to access accounts or maybe not. **
Thanks trying to bring something to those who have helped me... Thanks
diigibio (diigimatrix)

unwired4 said:
Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?
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Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
So I needed access to my @btinternet account whilst mobile but in the outlook folder that wqould not let me sync so then i had to set up the other.
So i stopped it syncing with outlook messages on the pc and then decided to try and get rid of the outlook account, which is what i then proceeded to do!
Ok i am going to stop now before i start going round in circles..
But thanks for the question..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
kudos to You mate!
br
bro

bronx said:
thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
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Your welcome mate. To be honest I think it was your comment about it I came accross the other day on the forum, which is one of the reasons I decided to post it. I'll try and help more if I can. I've just setup talking dial tones. so when I dial a number it says the number rather than beep. Thanks to grumps for the tones!! I think he's compiling an app to do this easier. But i couldn't wait and so set it up via the registry...
Oh www.htcclassaction.org reports we could have proper display drivers by the end of march!! So fingers crossed our Kaiser will fullfil their legacy!!

diigibio said:
Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
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Cool. Thanks for explaining.

Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.

dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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Yeah, sounds like it. If you post that .cab here. I'll take a look for you mate and see what I can come up with over the next week. Failing that I can take my .reg setting for the mms and possibly create a link to the default messaging app.
However my best mate has an o2 xda orbit and I installed WM6 on it but there is no 6.1 yet and he wanted threaded sms. So i installed Shogun's Palm sms. Now when he opens that app he does not have mms, however when I linked to the default messaging app that still contained his mms account and all the mms I sent him were waiting there for him.
So try this out and if you need my help just ask. You can PM me for my e-mail address if you want to send the .cab direct or ask for any other help. I am at work tomorrow(or should I say today) and am on a sleep over so i will check my pm but it'll be from my Kaiser.
Hope I could help..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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I have used a .cab analyser on the enablemms.cab and it contains no registry entries at all (none will be added or removed(except for unistall info and platform.reg which I believe is more to do with os at a guess))
and contains these files:
CeSetup.dll in the \Program Files\Tools Folder
checkfile.exe in the windows folder
Platformxxx.reg in the windows folder
CM_Entries.xml in the windows folder
And
Customize.lst in the \Program Files\Tools folder
Let me know how you get on..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro

bronx said:
hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro
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No worries mate, I still have sound on my sms notifications although I did have to deselect play sound in sound and notifications and reset then re-select the play sound option. And it worked for me but I have a stock htc tytn II. I am at work on my kaiser at the moment and the browser won't let me add an attachment, so when I get my laptop out at 6 i'll post the .reg entry. Fancy deleting it !! lol.. Check back around 6.30. It'll def be on tonight pal..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

cheers
I know I sound like a dumbo saying that it's deleted.. but ... oh well
thank You again
br
bro

.reg files
Sneeked on!
Here you go mate...

thanks
I tried soft resets just as You did - no luck for me unfortunatelly.
never mind, fix was sweet anyway. I'll try to play with it bit mo.
br
bro

Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?

dis39tif said:
Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?
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The default messaging application remains untouched, especially when installing third party replacements such as SMS threading (IMSMS, Palm, Textr and so on). The default link goes to \Windows\tmail.exe.
The quickest way to do this is by using Resco File Manager. click on the tmail.exe and hold until (right-click) menu appears and click "send to" then choose "Start Menu as Shortcut".
Once this is done you can access it via the start menu or use the button app to map it to a button or use with a today screen plugin (spb etc) As when you install the third party app it either replaces the original shortcut with its own or alters the original link to point to the third party app.
Hope this is of some help...
diigibio (diigimatrix)

Thanks! worked great for me on WM 6.1 I didn't see the active sync option before the restart either.

Microsoft Myphone

Hi all
I have just bought a used MDA Vario 3(HTC tytn2?). This is by way of an upgrade from my Vario 2. I would like to keep my text messages and thought I would try Myphone. It will work with WM6 and says it may work with some WM5 devices. Unfortunately I can't get it to work on the Vario 2 so I can't backup messages before moving to the new phone. Does anyone have any suggestions of how to salvage my text messages? Anyway to get Myphone to work on the Vario 2?
Thanks
Q

myphone is convenient...but "pimbackup" is a MUST HAVE that has never failed for most of us and it doesn't require an internet connection either.
just BACKUP your contacts and text messages with pimbackup, save the backup file to your storage card (or pull the backup file off your device with activesync on to your desktop/laptop) and then transfer the file to your new device. run pimbackup on your new device and RESTORE the file...and you're done!
search the forum for more tutorials on using pimbackup, especially if you want to correctly restore to a device that supports threaded messaging.

Brilliant! Thanks very much that is just what i was looking for. All backed up and transferred to new phone.
Thanks again
Quentin