Teaching ATT Tilt to get TMC traffic updates - what are my options? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hey guys,
I've been using iGo 2006 Plus on my ATT Tilt and now I'm wondering what are my options to get TMC updates for the GPS?
I read that you gotta have a certain antenna for that and whatever else.... however, I have unlimited HSDPA connection on it and I'm curious if its possible to get TMC through it and feed it to the GPS software.
Was anybody sucessfull at that and if so, what did you use?

DarkDvr said:
Hey guys,
I've been using iGo 2006 Plus on my ATT Tilt and now I'm wondering what are my options to get TMC updates for the GPS?
I read that you gotta have a certain antenna for that and whatever else.... however, I have unlimited HSDPA connection on it and I'm curious if its possible to get TMC through it and feed it to the GPS software.
Was anybody sucessfull at that and if so, what did you use?
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TMC is only available through a GPS application that has subscription to the service.
As yet, there is no 'stand-alone' TMC reciever' for the 'Kaiser', you will only get TMC traffic reports as a data download via GPRS/EMSD/3G connection within a GPS application such as TomTom or Garmin XT while you are using that application.

So TomTom does have TMC through GPRS, but iGo doesn't?

DarkDvr said:
So TomTom does have TMC through GPRS, but iGo doesn't?
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Can't really confirm that cause I have not used iGo but TMC for any app on the 'Kaiser' at this time needs an active data connection, whereas a dedicated GPS device like the Garmin Nuvi has an 'add-on' FM receiver for this function.

Use Live Search. It's pretty accurate when it comes to traffic, and you can use teh GPS, as well getting directions and others. I love it. And use it daily.

Farsquidge said:
Can't really confirm that cause I have not used iGo but TMC for any app on the 'Kaiser' at this time needs an active data connection, whereas a dedicated GPS device like the Garmin Nuvi has an 'add-on' FM receiver for this function.
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Well, since I do have unilimited data, and I don't want any extra thingies to haul around with my Kaiser... I guess I'll give tomtom a try

Can't really push this, but look in the 'Trash' forum..... for Garmin XT.

kaluzu said:
Use Live Search. It's pretty accurate when it comes to traffic, and you can use teh GPS, as well getting directions and others. I love it. And use it daily.
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Hmm that might be a good idea.. Does it have all the nifty stuff like POI DB, import from contacts, voice guidance?

Farsquidge said:
Can't really push this, but look in the 'Trash' forum..... for Garmin XT.
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What about it?

DarkDvr said:
What about it?
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You won't know until you look!! But forget it if you don't....
One thing you have to remember is this forum is 'Worldwide'! TMC is only good for US/Europe so take that into account..

Yeah I know. I've checked the list of supported countries - US is in it.. So it should work.
So Live Search GPS.. is it free?

DarkDvr said:
Yeah I know. I've checked the list of supported countries - US is in it.. So it should work.
So Live Search GPS.. is it free?
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As far as I know, Live search only uses your GPRS/3G connection so if you have a data package then (yes/no) you are already paying for it!!
Someone using Livesearch jump in here!!

Hmm... downloaded Live Search, it runs.. but there's no maps, just a GPS's arrow in a middle of nowhere hehe.. Gotta check their support forums.

DarkDvr said:
Hmm... downloaded Live Search, it runs.. but there's no maps, just a GPS's arrow in a middle of nowhere hehe.. Gotta check their support forums.
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Haha, sure its not night time there??

Well that's the beauty of forums =)
I figures it out, I've made a separate post in case someone else has this problem..
Live Search is cool, however it doesn't have good turn-by-turn navigation and no voice guidance. And I'm not sure if it truly creates a route with traffic in mind.. Or just shows traffic info..
I'll try TomTom and see what it does.. so far screenshots of it look pretty bad, actually... iGo looks a whole lot better.. but TMC is worth the sacrifice for me.

I am afraid I don't find a 'trash' forum, am I missing something?

Related

iGuidance 4 on the ATT Tilt.

I ran into a free copy of iGuidance 4 and just wanted to give some input about it just in case some people are not sure which GPS programs to try....I've been using iGuidance for about 4 days now and it seems to be very accurate with directions and routes (at least in the chicago/chicagoland area) and is only a few feet behind on the voice prompts...it read the internal GPS right away without any setting tweaks or tricks (I use GPStest to wake up the GPS so it detects it faster), so far it runs very smooth. If you are looking for a GPS product that is accurate, smooth and has voice prompts w/ US maps iGuidance 4 is good program to go with...i would highly recommend it...i'm not sure what its selling for but i'm sure its about the same price as TOMTOM 6...hope this helps anyone...Cheers...
uh...iGuidance 7??? Not so much. iGuidance 4 is the latest version. And even if they were to release a new version...they wouldn't skip 3 versions. Confused?
did you actually read my post or just read the title of the thread...
i must of updated it while you were typing your reply...
strikeIII said:
did you actually read my post or just read the title of the thread...
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Actually I did, and it was nice that you posted it, but I didn't know what to make of it, because of the wrong version. That's all I was talking about. Don't need to jump down my throat....geez
Do the voice prompts come through a bluetooth headset? I'm using telenav at the moment and they don't.
Thanks
hsj1906 said:
Do the voice prompts come through a bluetooth headset? I'm using telenav at the moment and they don't.
Thanks
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Search for BTAudioToggle.exe, it's an app that you can assign to a button to direct all sounds out BT. Works great on Kaiser with GPS apps.
I have to agree that iguidance 4 is a great program. tts does make it allot easier.
I have been using it for a little over a year now. Works perfectly!!!!!!!!
dude, why don't you edit your title?
vip_snoopy said:
dude, why don't you edit your title?
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DUDE, just for you and only you...
iGuidance4 doesn't have a traffic update applet, does it?
I have a few complaints. I have been using tomtom for years. Version 6 the latest. I switch because of the POI and TTS option on Iguidance.
I have to admit that tomtom has a vastly superior UI. I was wondering if I can save a gps location as favourite. Not via lat/long but when starting up. My current gps fix as a favourite.
I find it hard to scroll through POI because everythng is so tiny. TomTom had big buttons and was easier to read.
GPSTEST
New to TILT, but longtime user of both iGuidance, BT GPS reveiver, and WM.
When I douwload GPSTest, it tells me "not a valid PocketPC application". Any thoughts? I'd like to get this working as I have iGuidance for North America and Europe.

Navigon 6 in USA

Is Navigon PDA software available with USA maps for Tilt? I have seen it advertised in Europe but it looks like it only has European maps and it also looks like it only works on WM smartphones (not touchscreens). Thanks
Yeah, but you have it misspelled. It's Navizon. It does work on touchscreen devices and is pretty decent location software.
http://www.navizon.com/
LOL, no its Navigon, the German maker of standalone GPS devices:
Navigon MobileNavigator 6
http://www.navigon.com/site/int/en/shop/consumer/mobilephones
Ah, I see, sorry for that. Their names are too close together...oh well, Navizon is still worth a look in lieu of Navigon.
TSoma said:
it also looks like it only works on WM smartphones (not touchscreens).
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I've just tried Mobile Navigator 6.2 on my Kaiser, working well (but with european maps) -
the only thing i have noticed: it's damn slow to start up the software.... no idea if there are american maps....
petervbeck said:
I've just tried Mobile Navigator 6.2 on my Kaiser, working well (but with european maps) -
the only thing i have noticed: it's damn slow to start up the software.... no idea if there are american maps....
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I also have MN6 installed on my Kaiser.
But i have optimizes the startup sequence and the working speed.
Now it start in about 7sec
there´s a howto on the pockenavigationforum (German)
you can find it here
There is also an MortScript-Script ( ), what automaticily optimize navigon (take about 2-3min on kaiser) --> find it here
i can translate and post it here if someone need this
Anyone know if there are USA maps available and/or where you can get them if you buy the software?
I have the North America Map it's about 1.65GB for Navigon, it has nice graphics and also includes the original icons for Gas Stations, like chervron, shell etc...Restaurants as well and many other POI. I don't use it no more because it takes a long time to startup and sometimes it crash. I like tomtom better.
Navigon MN6 Startup
nEuDy said:
I also have MN6 installed on my Kaiser.But i have optimizes the startup sequence and the working speed. Now it start in about 7sec
there´s a howto on the pockenavigationforum (German) you can find it here
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Heya nEuDy,
thanks for sharing this info! Just did some of these settings and i think it's true, you can tune up the start sequence! Thanks a lot!!
Cheers
petervbeck said:
Heya nEuDy,
thanks for sharing this info! Just did some of these settings and i think it's true, you can tune up the start sequence! Thanks a lot!!
Cheers
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No Problem
eltoro said:
I have the North America Map it's about 1.65GB for Navigon, it has nice graphics and also includes the original icons for Gas Stations, like chervron, shell etc...Restaurants as well and many other POI. I don't use it no more because it takes a long time to startup and sometimes it crash. I like tomtom better.
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El Toro... How can I get a copy of this map from you? By any chance, do you live in El Toro California? I live in Irvine, and I could actually just meet up with you! And do you happen to have Nacigon Navigator 6? Ive been looking for this for ages! Anyhow, let me know if we can work something out!
nEuDy said:
I also have MN6 installed on my Kaiser.
But i have optimizes the startup sequence and the working speed.
Now it start in about 7sec
there´s a howto on the pockenavigationforum (German)
you can find it here
There is also an MortScript-Script ( ), what automaticily optimize navigon (take about 2-3min on kaiser) --> find it here
i can translate and post it here if someone need this
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Neudy... Unfortunately, staring at these sites has not made any sense to me. I currently run a Motorola Q9h, and I am wondering if theres a way you can either translate or post that "modification" for me so that it starts faster? Please let me know!!
eltoro said:
I have the North America Map it's about 1.65GB for Navigon, it has nice graphics and also includes the original icons for Gas Stations, like chervron, shell etc...Restaurants as well and many other POI. I don't use it no more because it takes a long time to startup and sometimes it crash. I like tomtom better.
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Can you post how to get the latest software and the NA Maps by any chance?
petervbeck said:
I've just tried Mobile Navigator 6.2 on my Kaiser, working well (but with european maps) -
the only thing i have noticed: it's damn slow to start up the software.... no idea if there are american maps....
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It's damn slow on v5 too
Disabling sound has speeded it up a bit as well as disabling HTC Home, but I'd like to dig further and if possible speed it up.
Such as, how much speed would be gained by installing the software in the main memory compared to the mSD card. The map is 110mb so I don't really want to put that in main memory
nEuDy said:
i can translate and post it here if someone need this
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Could you post a summary and the links please? I'd be so grateful
I am only using WM5 at the moment, which is a tad out of date. But I would certainly consider upgrading to v6+ if possible. I sooo prefer this over MioMap or TomTom
TSoma said:
Can you post how to get the latest software and the NA Maps by any chance?
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http://www.navigon.com/site/us/en US English
http://www.navigon.com/site/uk/en UK English
http://www.navigon.com/site/uk/en/products/mobile_navigation/pda UK PDA
I do recall some issues recently that there isn't a PDA version available in the USA. PNA yes, but not PDA UK does have the software available. One option would be to find out if you can use UK software and american maps.

Your fav gps prog?

what is yours? i was using destinator when i was in greece as tom tom didnt have the greek map.
what about google navigator? or should i stick with google maps ?
thanks in advance
what i didnt like about destinator...it was slow on picking up the gps signal, and i was running gps test first to get the signal, then destinator
VisualGPSce, TomTom, Google Maps
gabriel31337 said:
VisualGPSce, TomTom, Google Maps
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ah yes visualgpsce, no maps, but great program for various info
I'd have to say TOMTOM all the way. I prefer it...
GPS Test, TomTom
GPSTuner for geocaching (now with realtime map download).
Tomtom for road.
and what about iGo my way
Just IMO
iGo looks nice but TomTom is better to operate
tomtom 6 & iGO (for eastern europe)
Tomtom by far in my opinion, however I do have a new favorite GPS program, not for navigation though.
It's called navizon, if you haven't heard of it check it out at navizon.com
it's similar to google maps, but the real use of this program in my opinion is that they pay for location information collected about wifi ap's and cell toweres.
What I do it start it up, then start up tomtom, so navizon runs in the background, in a week I made $40.
They also have a pretty good referral program, so if you do like it, I would appreciate it if you would use my number when signing up.
The program if free to use for this purpose by the way, so there is no catch
Sorry for sounding spammy, but I really do think this program is cool and I really did make $40 in a week.
Here's my referral number if you are so inclined: 5D56565E5A56
or a direct link to the sign up page:
http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5D56565E5A56
gabriel31337 said:
iGo looks nice but TomTom is better to operate
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but tomtom has weak maps for Slovakia
tomtom for turn-by-turn directions, windows live search for proximity searches, I need to try the geocaching app gpstuner.
Mapkings
I m using MAPKINGS
And i think its quite good for Malaysian user.
iGuidance 4.0
I prefer iGuidance 4.0 over TomTom. I find that the user interface is easier to use.
i like TrackMe for tracking, TomTom is best in usability but Garmin is also nice, but expensive
So many apps out there...
TrackMe for well tracking. What an excellent program!
Noni GPS Plot for when I just want to be a geek and look at satelite reception / have a GPS Speedo in the car.
MemoryMap, for its ability to read OS Maps (thats similar to Topo maps for the US members). Great for off-roading.
Google / Pocket Streets when I'm in an unknown area. Especially Google, gotta love that integration!
I did use TomTom years ago when it was v.2. It was good for Sat-Nav, then I got a real Garmin Sat-Nav and found TomTom was relegated to the cupboard. I have no need to change it since it meets my needs (don't think the Kaiser would like being used on a Motorcycle, least not in the open where I could see the screen...)
navizon group - ATT Tilt
navizon is cool. just made a public group so we can see each other (ATT Tilt)
Are you guys that are using TomTom using the $149 software available on their corporate website?
Garmin XT - Honestly, it dominates over TomTom.
Nudar
Nudar is by far better than TomTom or Garmin XT. You guys should all check it out:
http://nudar.nudar.com/

About Google Map...

I was wondering is there a way that i could just get a full map of my area so i don't need wifi to use it? or is there a way to save the parts i've searched for while i'm on wifi so when i'm driving i could used the saved maps? or would there just be a better program other then tomtom7 because i can't seem to get the maps working.
NekciuQ said:
I was wondering is there a way that i could just get a full map of my area so i don't need wifi to use it? or is there a way to save the parts i've searched for while i'm on wifi so when i'm driving i could used the saved maps? or would there just be a better program other then tomtom7 because i can't seem to get the maps working.
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Depends on where you are located (country/territory) really... Some navigation applications focus on specific regions. Where are you?
I live in Canada more specific Toronto so i would be fine with just Toronto maps
Can anyone answer me ?
There is no such thing , or it wouldn't be free...
You do need 3G with a all-you-can-eat plan as downloading google maps takes pretty much k-bytes when you download in real-time the Satelite maps (much less if you download the street map of course) , and I presume they are even only put in a temp cache and not "stored" in the application for re-usage.
(not sure about this as I flash my device constantly as for Google Maps).
I agree about the all-you-can-eat plan for GPS. In fact, you're better off getting an unlimited plan anyway if you really want to get the best your Diamond has to offer.
So what other good GPS programs are there other then Tomtom with CA maps?
I use Garmin Mobile XT and it is absolutely brilliant!
You can also checkout CoPilot and iGo
Google Map
Hi
The diamond has GPS, can google map use GPS to get the map or do I need wifi or 3G data plan? I did see options to use GPS but it connects to my phone line using GPRS, since GPS is free but not able to get it to work using mapking either..
Anyone have this problem?
Thanks
Kiwi_hknz said:
Hi
The diamond has GPS, can google map use GPS to get the map or do I need wifi or 3G data plan? I did see options to use GPS but it connects to my phone line using GPRS, since GPS is free but not able to get it to work using mapking either..
Anyone have this problem?
Thanks
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I feel you don't understand the basic difference between GPS and GPRS
See all what GPS does is connect to the satellites and get your longitude and latitude data .. this data is traced on the maps by an GPS application like google maps , Tom Tom , Mapking ..etc ..so you need to download the maps either using EDGE/3G or store them on your phone/internal memory ..
Hope you get the idea ..
Google Map
Ic, then can I store the whole map of my area with google map? like I do with Mapking and use GPS to find my location in google map, like a do with mapking?
terracrosser
Hi Guys,
Wanted to put you in the right direction; check out terracrosser.
Just installed it and I will be testing it out on a bicycle trip, but seems to be perfect for this.
There is also another thread about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...t=terracrosser
Cheers
NekciuQ said:
So what other good GPS programs are there other then Tomtom with CA maps?
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mapking r12 or 2007?
NekciuQ said:
I was wondering is there a way that i could just get a full map of my area so i don't need wifi to use it? or is there a way to save the parts i've searched for while i'm on wifi so when i'm driving i could used the saved maps? or would there just be a better program other then tomtom7 because i can't seem to get the maps working.
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I seem to remember that map4pda stores the maps locally, you download the ones you want via your home wifi etc and it will look in its cache before downloading them from the web when you're away from home.
Tip: make sure you download *all* the map tiles at the resolutions you need to avoid data charges.
mkhattab said:
I use Garmin Mobile XT and it is absolutely brilliant!
You can also checkout CoPilot and iGo
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Ya Garmin is pretty cool.

Free GPS?

How do you use the GPS on the Tilt without having any commercial GPS software?
I thought Google and Microsoft had some sort of free online GPS software, but I can't find/figure out how to use it...
Google maps works well on the Tilt: http://www.google.com/gmm
SaltyDawg said:
How do you use the GPS on the Tilt without having any commercial GPS software?
I thought Google and Microsoft had some sort of free online GPS software, but I can't find/figure out how to use it...
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I have been using GPStoday that I got from here. sorry dont know the link, but it works great from me. using tower settings and unlimited data from AT&T
Also you may want to have a look at nav4all... free turn by turn gps navigation. The UI is a bit clunky but it works and it's free!
i am sorry to inform you this but good things does not come free
Google maps are free and fine
but they are no way to be compared with navigon or destinator
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How do you use the GPS on the Tilt without having any commercial GPS software?
I thought Google and Microsoft had some sort of free online GPS software, but I can't find/figure out how to use it...
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jahrami said:
i am sorry to inform you this but good things does not come free
Google maps are free and fine
but they are no way to be compared with navigon or destinator
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Yup! For looking up where something is I'll usually use Google Maps. It's easy to zoom and pan the map.
But, for driving somewhere I'm not familiar with, I've gotta go with the paid solution... TomTom Navigator.
SaltyDawg said:
How do you use the GPS on the Tilt without having any commercial GPS software?
I thought Google and Microsoft had some sort of free online GPS software, but I can't find/figure out how to use it...
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I'm using Garmin Mobile XT.. The conection GPS is very fast.. Without commercial or trial..
For driving you need audible instructions. I tried using Google maps to get somewhere but I had to keep looking at the screen.
Either get a commercial application or if you need free try Nav4All as someone suggested above. It's nowhere near an IGO8 or Tomtom but it's free (for a year or two).

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