Please forgive me for posting this thread as I know it's redundant; however, I have searched the forums and have not seen any questions with the same ingredient as I am going to ask.
My biggest "grunt" about the Kaiser (and every other HTC phone for that matter) is that it is unable to record phone calls "internally" through the phone. I have searched and searched for this option and haven't come across anything that's decent. All applications that are out there record the call “externally” and have very poor recording capabilities. I am not interested in taking Notes; I am interested in recording conversations.
What has struck this conversation up again is a little program by the name of "BTAUDIO". This program allows you to listen to music and other forms of media through your BT headset. I haven't quite figured out how this would enable “internal” phone call recording, but it seems as though it pushes us a step closer to our success.
I would be interested in hearing from talented programmers who can possible use this to enable internal phone call recording.
One more thing... please hold back the "Law" aspect of this conversation, I know it and don't want to hear it. Nor do I want this thread to be about "The right thing to do".
Thanks for your input!
Yeah, I wondered about that too. Even if we can't record a conversation through the main phone speaker, could it be possible to record a conversation that is passing through to a wired or BT headset?
the answer to the questions: no, it's not possible to hack into the BT stream. The TekSoft guys have tried it hard - no success.
What I rercommend is, if having a separate phone & PDA isn't a prblem, is getting an additional HTC*s310 (oOxygen). It's able to record calls. Alternatively, if you have more money to burn, get the N95: then, you'll have the best of both (Symbian and WM) worlds.
I also recommend my related articles inj the Wiki - I've published a LOT of articles on the subject.
I am using resco audio recorder, too bad it only record my voice, not the other party.
So I really want to know is there any solution for the kaiser phone.
Thanks!
Get a Grandcentral account. It will enabled you to record any phone call you are having (both parties), by simply pressing 4 on the number pad. The recorded conversation is saved online and can be downloaded to your PC.
Edit: I also thought I would add this: When you record a conversation with grandcentral, it *will* notify the other party they are being recorded. Some states require by law that you notify the other party they are being recorded in a phone conversation. If you are looking for software that will record without notifying the other party, you may be breaking the law, depending on what state you live in (if you live in America, obviously).
How about PM recorder?
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Hi,
Yesterday I have seen an excellent piece of software on my friend’s Nokia phone. It is about to save the conversation.
If you are in the middle of a call or initiating a call, that software prompts you that “Do you want to save the conversation”, [YES/NO]. if "yes" it saves the audio file in the memory card. I am very impressed with it.
Guys do you know whether we have this type of software for our new WM6 device, I am using HTC TYTN II.
Thanks for the help.
Voice call's can't be recorded. Harware Issue !
Resco Audio Recorder
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
mwpeters said:
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
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Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
pda_crazy said:
Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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Doesnt work...
Call recording softwares won't work because the OS doesn't have access to what's being sent to the phone speaker.
I don't know, however, if that would be possible using a wired/BT headset.
good is maybe LIVEPVR
I used program LIVEPVR but only on eten M600+, mio M500 and works ok(when I set microphone correctly).
On Kaiser I will use also but I must again buy this product because upgrade is no free for old user. On handango it's cost only £6.49 .
I used this soft about two year and I record a lot of phone call.
This has been discussed several times before. The only way you can record both parties in a phone call on the Kaiser is to have the phone in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound. This is true with almost all of HTC's PPC phones. One of the few that can do it is the HTC Athena. Buy it if you have plenty of money to burn and are willing to take the risk of becoming the laughing stock of your neighborhood walking around with that brick pressed to your head...
Yup, no flawless recording on the Kaiser, sorry.
Also see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Audio and call recording, answering machines for mor einfo on this subject.
What if you are using a wired/BT headset? Software can control what passes through to the headphones right? Has it been tried already?
Ive never been able to record calls with resco voice recorder on the kaiser either. It works fine on my wizard though. on the kaiser it doesnt even create a call folder while on the wizard I had a call folder with all incoming and outgoing calls.
Not that I need this function, but WOW my old treo 650 that is collecting dust can do this.
updates?
any changes on this?
Yes, there's a solution on it's way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783
Hello,
Can i record Phone calls with kaiser without to use the speaker ?
thnx
vitto audio notes does this.. purchased the app and works great.
however, make sure you follow the rules with recording phone calls - think you have to let the other person know ahead of time.
tvos
bs...vito audio notes does not work.
actually, nothing will work with any windows mobile phone b/c the software does not allows the sound coming from teh earpiece to be recorded...google it....vito audio notes only records your outgoing voice unless you are on speakerphone.
tvos said:
vitto audio notes does this.. purchased the app and works great.
however, make sure you follow the rules with recording phone calls - think you have to let the other person know ahead of time.
tvos
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no, it doesn't. Follow my related articles - I've explained several times the Tilt / Kaiser can NOT record phone calls either.
biswasd said:
actually, nothing will work with any windows mobile phone b/c the software does not allows the sound coming from teh earpiece to be recorded...google it....vito audio notes only records your outgoing voice unless you are on speakerphone.
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There are some (VERY FEW) WM models that do allow for recording: Oxygen / s310, Athena / x7500, some O2, Gigabyte and Asus models etc. See my articles for their list.
All progs can record... has nothing to do with the hardware... You need a Bat file in the reg to enable any recording software to split feed to recording core. It is illegal however to record someones conversation without their consent and there is no way to guaranty the consent, but to prevent software makers from enabling the incoming calls recording.
As we all know, as it stands you can record the callers voice however when the speaker is on.
A friend of mine created the bat file and he made a cab file for the Resco Recorder and the HTC Recorder, but will not release to public for legal reasons.
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1. What is the problem to record someone that speak with you ?
you record yourself.
2. Can i record with my tilt if i will install your friends file ? (without speaker).
thnx
Unless it's changed recently due to the current legal/political climate, my understanding is that there are vastly different laws in different states. I was advised by an attorney that in the state I previously lived only one party of the conversation had to know about the recording. I believe its the same way here in Florida. Thus, you can't surreptitiously record others' calls (those that you aren't a party to). However, you can record your calls without telling the other party. A number of Nokia models (including one I've owned) allow for recording the the whole conversation. However, if I remember correctly, they beep quietly every five seconds during the recording process.
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All progs can record... has nothing to do with the hardware... You need a Bat file in the reg to enable any recording software to split feed to recording core. It is illegal however to record someones conversation without their consent and there is no way to guaranty the consent, but to prevent software makers from enabling the incoming calls recording.
As we all know, as it stands you can record the callers voice however when the speaker is on.
A friend of mine created the bat file and he made a cab file for the Resco Recorder and the HTC Recorder, but will not release to public for legal reasons.
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This is *NOT* illegal, if other party agreed for recording. It is very useful, when you are driving and someone non-technical person wants to give phone and address details.
Please ask your friend to release at least as shareware and we can explore it? He can always put Ts & Cs in case he still thinks it is illegal. My two cents.
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Have been using Resco Audio recorder and Vito Audio Notes to record phone conversation but in both the softwares i could only here my voice clearly and the other persons voice is not audible at all. I have faced this problem on ALL HTC DEVICES but the same software worked amazing on XDA Xing and ATOM. cam someone help me here as to what settings to change or what software to use for proper recording.
Thanks
all of these programs will record if the phone is on speaker.
read the documentations, as some phone do not provide duplex conversations, or something like that.
once you set the call on speaker, all works fine, but it's kind of inconvenient.
yea if i remember correctly, it has something to do with the way that the voice calling was implemented in the device that it will only record your voice.
straight from resco.net from the audio recorder page:
(Both sides recording is hardware dependent. If your recording contains voice of one side only, it is not due to the program's failure.)
On my old PPC6700 mine worked fine with the call volume all the way high, The other person sounded a bit low, but if you want you can edit the call on a PC and make them louder. It all depends how often do you plan to record your convos.
I'm recording both sides without speaker or any other hazzle...
This is what I've done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783
Do you really intend to unbury every 1+ year old topic on that subject? I think people got it by now. Make ONE thread with full relevant info, that will do it.
Hello everyone,
can not say that it is like "to live or not to live" but still important, and i belie not only for me.
I have tried a lot of different call recording software for WM.
The problem is that during call recoding it just records the microphone, but not the dynamic.
It just works like simple Voice recorder.
Most advanced I think was the tool from Resco. It has even the input device list in which I've chosen "Cellular Line" but still... no result.
I even have few times changed the firmware
I'm interested:
1) If it's only in my phone and you did not experienced such problem on yours
2) You guys can do the miracle ???
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Hello everyone,
can not say that it is like "to live or not to live" but still important, and i belie not only for me.
I have tried a lot of different call recording software for WM.
The problem is that during call recoding it just records the microphone, but not the dynamic.
It just works like simple Voice recorder.
Most advanced I think was the tool from Resco. It has even the input device list in which I've chosen "Cellular Line" but still... no result.
I even have few times changed the firmware
I'm interested:
1) If it's only in my phone and you did not experienced such problem on yours
2) You guys can do the miracle ???
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anyone ?
I can't do the ICR as well.
However, many of the people in the forum said they can...
I am wondering how as well.
I think this is not software, this is hardware problem. Something with laws reasons. Anyway, no program to able to write sound from hardware speaker.
Another way to use that programs - try to use recording with BT hendsfree.
AlexDem said:
I think this is not software, this is hardware problem. Something with laws reasons. Anyway, no program to able to write sound from hardware speaker.
Another way to use that programs - try to use recording with BT hendsfree.
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Thanks, but obviously there are people claiming that they can do it with their X1s. Therefore we are asking why and how.
Rockman27 said:
Thanks, but obviously there are people claiming that they can do it with their X1s. Therefore we are asking why and how.
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Hmmm... I'm not sure, but seems to me they mean recording from BT. Try to use VITO AudioNotes, it works on my Jamin and LG KS20, but only via BT
You tried this?
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3240.html
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You tried this?
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3240.html
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The speakerphone trick is not possible while you are using it outdoors, which is unfavourable for most of the time
Thanks anyway
Have you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808&page=6
For some reason, mine was there with the phone. During the call - press menu then select note. Another window appear with tools for record. I tried mine and it works. The conversation save under my document>calls... Perfect
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For some reason, mine was there with the phone. During the call - press menu then select note. Another window appear with tools for record. I tried mine and it works. The conversation save under my document>calls... Perfect
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I just tried your method, it seems that it actually records passively via the vibrations from the speaker to the mic, or via the actual output from the speaker. Recording in a silent environment I can barely hear the person on the other end even at max volume.
I guess this option isn't really a working solution.
At this point it does make me think that there are hardware differences between X1s we have...
I am using X1i made in Y09W03, which I can't get the ICR to work...
Can those who make ICR work state their model and manufacture date as well?
Thanks
For a start, there may be some confusion here, some are using simply the notes application which can be accessed by menu (right softkey) during call and then record a sound in new note. Other it seems are using a recording software.
That being it, it is so unlikely, that it is nearing impossible that there would be hardware differences in the phone causing such significant difference in functionality. They have a specification to keep.
That being said, the cases describedas working I would put down to a difference in opinion on what "working" is considered to mean exactly.
P.S. X1i UK Y08W52
How about BTHF?
I heard some people had claimed that they can record both streams through BTHF... ark... things getting confusing: but I just want ICR on my X1, for the best I just pick up the phone to record all the in call voices, or using the HF comes with X1, or the worst BTHF (which I dont have one right now).
Just to keep you updated:
BTHF - No Good.
In Mobile01, some users claimed that if you use plastic "jelly" type protection case, it will help you divert the other parties' voices from the earpiece to the microphone, which in case help the ICR.
I am looking into issues and possibilities from the threads in Touch HD to make ICR work with Xperia X1.
I just freakingly hate it when people make false claims. That in any other way doesn't help but rather contribute to confusions.
Firstly, you can't even say that it records voice calls simply because the extreme silenced environment enables the mic to hear the whispers coming from the earpiece of the phone. Or saying that you just have to turn on the speaker phone while on record.
That definitely isn't a way a developer would do to claim anything about recording voice calls.
I'm sure you guys have other phones rather than PPCs say later nokias and later SEs perhaps. Whenever someone is calling you, you can simply press softkey and press record, and it will record the conversation and "stop recording" whoever hangs up first which doesn't happen to notes-recording.
Reviewing the recorded message is simply just as clear as having two people on phone patch just like our President's phone patch scam.
Dude, by far this thing DOESN'T record voice calls as I have tried to search. These claims are just workarounds. And If this do ever record voice calls, then you wouldn't even have to search the whole damn features finding where the record button is. Simply put.
>>MrLeche
Thanks for your comments, but the fact is that the recent Touch HD movements have granted us some hopes. People in Taiwanese forums are making use of the patch to apply on various of HTC phones and got positive results - therefore this has given some people, at least the stupid me, to do some further testing and research before closing the issue prematurely.
Did everyone just give up or did someone find the "cure" and I missed it?
I have tried everything possible but have not been able.
Just out of curiosity is this possible:
I have seen a program that diverts the sound from the speakerphone to the earpiece for use with skype. Could a virtual device be created to emulate a speaker, have sound diverted to the virtual device then to the real earpiece or speakerphone? This would allow the virtual device to send the sound from the other party to the recorder and hence record both sides of the conversation.
Maybe the above makes no sense but just wondering.
If anyone has been able to record both sides of the conversation at reasonable volume levels on an X1, I am interested in finding out how.
Gabo_calderon
Download Resco Explorer
Change the amplify level to your preferred settings
During phone call, make sure speakerphone is on
It works wonderfully.
poetryrocksalot said:
Download Resco Explorer
Change the amplify level to your preferred settings
During phone call, make sure speakerphone is on
It works wonderfully.
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Thanks but unfortunately that is not an option for me. I would like to record all calls and the speakerphone option is just too awkward for normal phone use.
Gabo_calderon
I have the Sony x1.
I always find myself wishing I had recorded calls.
Is there a way to have your phone automatically record all calls.
If it was just a stand alone program that needed to be activated each time I think would forget.
Try this:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-acr-auto-call-recorder.html
Same as above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472
It only works one way though...
The X1 has call recording built-in through the Notes app (also accesible through the phone dialer. Once in the Notes app, go to Menu->Use Recording Toolbar. You can record the conversation while writing into the notes app. It's unfortunate SE didn't integrate this better into the dialer app.
You can record both sides of the conversation if you use speakerphone only. Using the handset, it will only record yourself and the other end will be inaudible. I believe this is some hard limitation in the design of the phone and not something that can be overcome by software.
EDIT: Ooops, I see you want calls recorded automatically...Notes doesn't do that
How do I access the feature through the phone dialer.
If you are using the built-in SE dialer, it is the icon that looks like a sticky note with a tack through it. Pressing that will load the Notes app with the number you are dialing already inserted. From there, just follow the instructions in my previous post.
I believe once a call is initiated, you can still run notes the traditional way (Start Menu->Notes) and achieve the same thing if you have a different dialer you are using.
This functionality with notes is cute, but it only record some 30 seconds. How can I change it. Through regedit or?
One more thing: The loudness of person that I called on recording is miserable... My voice is lot louder... how can I fix this?
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One more thing: The loudness of person that I called on recording is miserable... My voice is lot louder... how can I fix this?
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As stated in my first post, you have to use speakerphone to get a usable record volume from the other caller. This is inherent in the X1 design.
I don't understand why some phones have this limitation and others don't. My old Moto v60 could record both ends of the phone call perfectly without any fuss.
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I have the Sony x1.
I always find myself wishing I had recorded calls.
Is there a way to have your phone automatically record all calls.
If it was just a stand alone program that needed to be activated each time I think would forget.
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Look at Resco Audio Recorder.
I have tried many programs and none work perfectly so here is what i did to get perfect results:
Plug your xperia into the "Line in" port on your computer using a male to male 3.5 mm audio cable - after that i used a program like Audacity to record the call.
It records your voice and the person you are speaking to with perfect results.
^^^ That's clever, but how do you fit your computer in your pocket?