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my new memory card came today, i was playing around with it and moving various things onto it from my computer and from within the device.
then my phone froze, so i had to hard reset it, and since then the memory card has stopped working. the kaiser cant see it and with the card reader the computer takes a very long time to see it.
i think i need to re-format it but when i click on the memory card "my computer" stops responding?
please help
i would just return it
or use something like pocket mechanic or sktools to reformat the memory card
both need to be paid for, hopefully the trials will allow the memory card format
Flubster
i will return it if i have to but i have had to wait ages for it to come with the postal strikes.
those apps are for ppc aren't they? the kaiser can't see the card.
is there any software i can use on my pc?
I had this happen to a card once and it was toast. I doubt your phone had anything to do with it. It was probably bad from the get go.
I experienced a similar issue with a Sandisk 6GB SDHC. It worked fine for a few days. Then when I was trying to transfer a file it was excruciatingly slow and then the transfer would fail and my phone would freeze. I did a soft reset and the memory card was no longer detected. I then took the memory card to my computer and it told me the card wasn't formatted so I re-formatted the card from my computer succesfully, put it back in my Kaiser and it was detected again. However the same problem happened when I transfered a file. I returned the card and am waiting for the new one to arrive. I just hope it is the card that was the problem and not the Kaiser.
UPDATE:
I received a new memory card and I experienced the same problem. At first I thought maybe the reader on my Kaiser was messed up. I did a hard reset and everything was back to normal. I think a program I had installed may have messed it up. I had installed so many programs I'm not sure what may have caused it but I have a hunch it was caused by Memmaid and the 'optimizations' I applied.
I noticed that like me some other people have problems with the kaiser not reading a micro SD card.
I have a 8 GB Sandisk Micro SD card and a T-Mobile MDA (with the original firmware)
A couple of days ago my Kaiser could read the memory card. Task manager (PPC) said it was not installed (something like that, I have a Dutch firmware). I had all the files on my PC so I formatted the SD card and tried again. No go..
some time later I repeated the process and it worked, for over an hour or so. (WMP was transferring some music when I got a notification that there was problem.)
I tried to use the original 1 GB SD card, didn't work.
Next I tried a hard reset. Again, a no go..
So.. I think the problem is in the hardware [Peran is wondering what the status is on those promised hardware acceleration drivers..]
been using 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, and 6gb ones...havnet had a problem...havent tried 8gb tho
6GB + 8GB working with it for the last 6/7 moths. And did not have any problems.
At the risk of sounding rude...
What is the point of having a poll on this? you got a bad card ...we see that.We have read your other post.
there isn't really a point.. Just me knowing that I am about the only one with the problem.
On topic; yesterday evening I tried it again and.. the problem is gone..
Has anybody any ideas what I did wrong? ... it seems to be me that is doing something wrong.
Still no problems..
are you going to retract your vote?
I dont know. I hate things like this happening..
Still no problems..
Offtopic, does XDA forums 'close topics'?
I have similar problem. 6gb card been working for months.
Suddenly the HTC can't see it.
Can still see it on PC.
Reformated it, etc and still no luck.
i had this, it turned out to be some exe files which were corrupt, and were screwing up the PDA.
As soon as i removed these, access to the card speed wise, was also greatly increased. Seemed to be the icons for the exe files failed to load, and hung the PDA.
I doubt its the card thats failed, more than likely, the drivers.
i formatted the memory card and hard reset my tytn. there are no files on the memory card...
Im having the same problem again...
flashy said:
i had this, it turned out to be some exe files which were corrupt, and were screwing up the PDA.
As soon as i removed these, access to the card speed wise, was also greatly increased. Seemed to be the icons for the exe files failed to load, and hung the PDA.
I doubt its the card thats failed, more than likely, the drivers.
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I have the same problem.. My Kaiser stopped reading my sd card..
What exe files did you erase? How did you find the files that were currupted?
Thanks
Mine didn't work on/off for a while after I dropped my Kaiser...but i put it back in and stuff and it has worked for about a month since.
I just got my tilt today. And I threw my 1gb Lexar in and it won't recognize, and my pc won't recognize it either.
My tytn2 is running HTC official rom(WM6.1).
I'm currently using a Sandisk 8GB MicroSD card without any issues for a couple of months now.
Run fsck on the card... If that comes up clean, there's a problem. Otherwise, the Kaiser (WM?) is just very picky.
used a 1 GB Sandisk in the past, upgraded to 4 GB Sandisk..no problems with either one...
having problems with mine right now.
The other day while driving tomtom displayed a message about my accessing my map settings.
I closed tomtom and started it again as i'd had problems in the past with my BA not reading from the card. no maps found!!??? I checked with file explorer card was there but no files on my card. I checked with resco file explorer still no files.
When i got home i checked through active sync, and tried a few restarts, same again so i thought it may be the phone, only had it a week.
I tried the card in my card reader ...strange... 3 gig was being used but no files on card.
Formated the card put everything back aarrgggghhhh!
Today go to put speed cameras back on card and all files on the card have strange names with blocks in.
I unplugged the usb ready to format, again. Rebooted the phone pluged in the usb all files back to normal.
God that seemed like an essay!!
I have had the same thing happen several times. Most of the files on my card have disappeared and I know they are still there. I have found 2 causes.
Sometimes I disconnect the sync cable with out closing folders. Especially when I have been installing things directly to the card. My card will only show a few files but when I connect it back to the computer it will fix itself. The files suddenly reappear.
The second cause took me a while to figure out. I use a motorokr in the car to listen to my music while I drive. Sometimes I shut off the power without stopping wmp. Again the card will show no files. I knew they must still be there but connecting to the computer didn't help. I decided to update my wmp library and suddenly everything was back. Hope this helps someone!
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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i have read that this has happened to some people .. not me yet (fingers crossed) don't know what causes this. You could try a recovery software and see if you can get the stuff back.
Can you or anyone suggest a recovery software? Checking the MicroSD on my laptop shows 2.88 GB being used, (and of course 2.78 GB Free) so the data should be there. I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
Just wondering...is there some kind of virus out there that would do this? For all the data to be "hidden" and a new folder to be created....the card just didn't create a folder by itself....
WM a card killer
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me
rafgerm said:
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me
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Yup, I used that program too. Recovered "missing files" problems on my previous hw6515 and twice on my TytnII 8GB micro SDdisk.
I've always had that "FilesToBeDeleted" folder too, it's normally hidden and when I delete it it comes back. Nothing special, just some folder the system wants there for some reason apparently, just like the other couple of hidden ones like WMDRM. If you didn't see it before and it now appeared it might have been hidden and the same thing that corrupt the FAT unhid it for some reason.
If you can see 2.88GB used on the PC, are you sure you have also have forced hidden files to display? Your data might be there but just hidden for some reason.
I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
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NEVER EVER do that to a media with a problem you might need to recover data from. This might just have ruined your last chance. On the opposite, when possible like on SD cards the first thing you'll want to do is set it as read-only.
When files are deleted, only their reference in the file table are, but the data itself is still present on the media, which allows recovery. But the locations the data is saved on are now marked as free, and anything you'll write on the card now can overwrite it, causing definitive loss.
Thanks a ton!!! The PC Inspector program worked great!! I was able to recover my files Next step, I guess, is to format the card and use it untill it decides to wipe my files out again. Of course my failth is the card will never be the same, and I'll keep a back up of the card also.....actually I was foolishly keeping the back-up for my Tilt on the card...can't trust that method anymore!
Thanks again for all the advise and information. As with all problems, you can always treat them as "learning opportunities", or...... throw the d*** thing out a window!!!!!
Same problem here, just ran into it last night and it's driving me nuts. Is there a way to recover/format the card from within the kaiser? Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.
sammy-e said:
Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Borrow, lend, or steal another card reader.
When I purchased this MicroCard, from ScanDisk, it came with a SD adapter plus a USB Card reader. I threw the USB Card reader in my desk thinking that I would not need this. I found out, by accident, that this USB card reader was the only way I could read the card on a PC. Built in card readers on both my home desk top and laptop would not access the card....
Just passing on this little bit of information, because it never occured to me that I had to use that USB Card reader!
This happened to my girlfriend's phone too. One day some of her programs just didn't work and most everything was gone on her card. Never fixed it, just reformatted card. Scary though.
Yeah, I tried recovering the data using TestDisk, saw some recommendations for it from others with the same problem, but wasn't able to get anywhere with it unfortunately. So in the end all I could do was format it and start over. Ahhh, backups... if I'd only made one.
I think this is a WM issue. Since other devices have the same problem.
here is a quote from another thread
Dutchman said:
I have the same issue with my tytn2.
Sometimes when i play some mp3s from my SD card and the device goes to standby or the program is closed my SD card is suddenly empty.
Removing the SD card and put it back in usually fixes it, sometimes a softreset also works.
So i believe this is a WM issue
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376050
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
mlpoland said:
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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IT'S A COMPUTER, I always carry a spare card, simple, job done. more time for girls/beer/pizza.
scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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Any hints on how to disable this? I did a quick search and found mention of it but nothing detailing how to control it. Thanks.
scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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I disabled it w/ kaiser tweak. Still i have the issue
Has anyone had the issue while pretty much not ever using Windows Media Player mobile? I was playing DRM'd audio files, is that possibly a common theme?
Could it be Moving PIE Cache?
Happened to me too. 8GB card. Just getting back up and running...wish I had read this last night. I put a bunch of stuff back on the card. Oops. Oh well. I think the common thread may be:
moving your PIE Cache to the SD Card.
Anyone else with this problem also move PIE Cache? Used Memmaid 2.0 to change it.
different in my case, I haven't changed any of the cache settings for PIE.
my tilt keeps eating files on my sd card which hasent botered me much untill today it ate my tomtom maps and im over 200 miles from home so I don't know how im going to get home on thursday what could be causing this?
Could be a bad or dying card. I had one that behaved similarly -- got a new one that so far has been rock-solid
Newegg has some pretty cheap cards, I got a 2 gig for only 4 dollars, free shipping.
burtcom said:
Could be a bad or dying card. I had one that behaved similarly -- got a new one that so far has been rock-solid
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I'd say the same..
OP you got more chance that your card is corrupted than that your device has an appertite for data
that's what I thought when it 1st started but this card is only a cople weeks old. usually it just eats my wisbar themes or the folders there in this is the 1st time its ate anything oter than that.
Are you sure the files are totally gone? I had this happen a few weeks ago, where my ENTIRE SD card's contents were missing, and then out of the blue, they reappear unchanged. It happened again yesterday, and then, back to normal. Maybe an external reader could see if the files were there or not. Or try a data recovery program if they were deleted, there are a ton of free ones on the web. I think there was an alright one called something like Recuva. Good luck finding your files.
Dave
Disappearing files is not normal. Run a checkdisk.
I've had this happen to mine, as well. The files were there, but the file system had to me manipulated in order to get them to appear again. It would say on my computer that 5.38 GB of my 8 GB card were used, but no files were present. The only way it they would show up again was if I tried to recopy the files from my computer on a card reader. It would ask if I would like to overwrite the files, then they would reappear. I narrowed it down to an unknown error that kept happening after the Tilt would write a new file to the card. A hard reset is the only way I found to fix the problem. Since I did my most recent hard reset and formatted the Micro SD card and reinstalled everything, it works like a charm. Don't bother with AT&T. They are convinced it's a problem with the card. When I called, it was the first time that they had dealt with the issue. I even ended up talking to a rep from HTC, and they had never dealt with the issue. I, too, had TomTom Navigator, and lost maps. I have a SanDisk 8 GB MicroSD HC card. Maybe one or both of those components plays a factor in the error. I hate to say that you have to reset it to fix anything, but so far, it's the only thing that's worked. Back up your data. I carry a MicroSD card reader with me on my keychain with a card with duplicate data on it, just in case I am ever 200 miles from home without my GPS maps. I pop it in and worry about the issue when I get home.
I've to say you are not the only one person has this problem. My Tilt eat up SD contents all the time, especially when it try to write some contents to the card but the Tilt just switched-off during the writing. (I have some SW that pull data periodically from the Internet. Sometimes takes longer than the auto-off timer).
The only solution I have now is to make a backup mSD card on my notebook, and if anything suspecious happend to the card, I first run a chkdsk with notebook, or if the problem is beyond repair (like whole Tomtom missing), I just re-format the card then copy everything back.
Anyway, just chkdsk the card on PC periodically, my experience shows those small errors in begin will accomulate and finally eat up all files on the card.
And oh, yes, it's not necessarily a card problem. I have several mSD cards from various vendor with verious spec (speed, size) all shows the same problem.
Not perfect solution, but it serves me well. (Better than stuck 200miles from home...)
Maybe you should feed your phone more often so that it doesn't have those crazy urges to feast on your presious sd card files.
My TILT won't read my microSD card, and when I put my microSD card into my computer it reads everything fine... and the phone does recognize microSD card being there because it does say "SLOT : in use"... WHAT DO I DO?
I looked everywhere to look for a solution to fix this (googled and did search on this website)
I love my phone a lot and I do not want to pay hundreds of dollars to get another WinMo phone.
I did soft reset, I did hard reset and I have flashed different roms to fix the problem.
And I called AT&T, they do not have any refurbished TILT available for them to send me one and since I don't have insurance, I can't get a phone like fuze or anything for cheap...
Help me, I want to use this phone for longer...
this problem is giving me a BIG HEADACHE.
Anyone want to help me?
Did you search yet? This question comes up often.
Run a filesystem check on the drive, it might fix it.
how do i run filesystem check on the drive?
like take the microSD card out and put it in my computer and do something?
I don't understand. I am pretty tech-savvy and I know how to flash roms and etc.
But I can't believe it's hard to understand what filesystem check is.. HELP
My microSD card is not corrupted if thats what you mean. I almost wish that was the case.
I think reader on my phone is broken... (hardware)
because like i said on my first post, I put my microSD card to my computer and everything worked fine and I inserted the card back into the phone multiple times and I even tried to format and redo everything. AND NO LUCK.
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My microSD card is not corrupted if thats what you mean. I almost wish that was the case.
I think reader on my phone is broken... (hardware)
because like i said on my first post, I put my microSD card to my computer and everything worked fine and I inserted the card back into the phone multiple times and I even tried to format and redo everything. AND NO LUCK.
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Put it in your computer and do a filesystem check on it. Right-click on the drive or such... Can't tell you the exact steps, don't use Windows.
I am telling you there is nothing wrong with the card.... but i did do filesystem check on it regardless. it said my card is fine. so what would be the next step?
like i said, my slot is broken, is there anything i can do to fix it?
Have you tried another card in the phone? That would rule out the card discussion.
If you didn't have another MicroSD around, you could also try reformatting the card as well, making sure it's in FAT16 or FAT32, not another format.
Well...I dropped my Tilt in January, other than a few scratches, nothing seemed wrong...until I wanted to use Tom-Tom, I then realized that my tilt no longer recoginized my SD card. So after alot of card swapping, card readers and the like, I gave up. My Tilt's SD slot was still functional, when I would insert/remove the card, the screen would light up, but it could not read ANY card inserted, and when in File Explorer or Total Commander, I could not select to view the cards contents, they simply did not see the card. Fast-forward 4 months & I dropped it again & PRESTO! My tilt started recognizing my sd cards again. Funny thing is that my girlfriend suggested I drop it again & see if it would start working, but I disregarded that suggestion thinking to myself "this isn't a old TV." I still have intermintent problems with my tilt not recognizing my cards, but a moderate tap on the bottom/top of my tilt & a soft-reset usually gets things going again. I suspect loose contacts in the slot, so until I jump ship, a couple taps a week won't kill me. Hope this helps.