Connecting to a PSP - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I've been reading some threads on turning the Kaiser into a wireless router, and was wondering if anyone had succesfully connected a Sony PSP to it? What am trying to do is use the Remote Play and Location Free features.

ever figure out how to get this done?
I have same setup as you as far as hardware.. for software i am using duttys 6.1 RTM on the kaiser and CFW 3.71 on the psp slim.
Lemme know...
Thanks,
J

Davebravey said:
I've been reading some threads on turning the Kaiser into a wireless router, and was wondering if anyone had succesfully connected a Sony PSP to it? What am trying to do is use the Remote Play and Location Free features.
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The obvious question is why? It (PSP) connects wirelessly to your home network. 3G is fast but is it fast enough for on line gaming?
Remote play mostly just accesses content from your PS3 , pictures, music, not games , thru the internet.
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the reason why....
denco7 said:
The obvious question is why? It (PSP) connects wirelessly to your home network. 3G is fast but is it fast enough for on line gaming?
Remote play mostly just accesses content from your PS3 , pictures, music, not games , thru the internet.
( Mods. feel free to move this thread to the xda gaming forum
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1.Having the cell phone (3g HSDPA UMTS EDGE, GPRS in my case) would enable my psp to have an internet connection while mobile in the car. That is the biggest reason.
2.I already use WMWifiRouter to enable my passengers to use wifi on their notebooks while travelling. I would like to stream movies(very doable over 3g) to my psp so my son can watch them on the go.
3. I have a modded psp running CFW and I can do much more than play games on it. Many of the modded features are network reliant or network ready such as VNC, Streaming video from the PSP, youtube, watching Live tv, and of course accessing my media server through my ps3 at home. All on a much bigger screen than my kaiser.
4.Youtube, browsing internet(even with opera), screen size, OS performance still sucks on the kaiser, the graphics still suck(pending the new rom from htc).
5. Cause I just want it.

johndabrit said:
5. Cause I just want it.
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To me this is the only legitimate reason you asking this question.... I often deal with the same issue, just wanting something no mather what it takes. GREAT!!

I'll refere you too this post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381515

denco7 said:
The obvious question is why? It (PSP) connects wirelessly to your home network. 3G is fast but is it fast enough for on line gaming?
Remote play mostly just accesses content from your PS3 , pictures, music, not games , thru the internet.
( Mods. feel free to move this thread to the xda gaming forum
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Um, why would you ask this question and how is it the obvious question? I can WoW on edge. (maybe not raid)

thanks for the reference.
Davebravey said:
I'll refere you too this post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381515
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but as youll see on there i already posted There is one user who says he got it to work but i highly doubt he was connected to the phone or could even see it during a scan especially if he "didnt set anything up" and "it just worked" mods feel free to merge the threads. This has to be possible. Of course this is coming from somebody who doesnt know how to cook in the winmo world or the psp cfw world. I wish i could give a little less conversation with allot more action but i dont even know where to start learning how to cook.
-J

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...where to start learning how to cook.
-J
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this i can help with Just simply go to the first sticky underneath the Kaiser-Rom development forum and their you will find instructions on where to download the "kaiser kitchen" and also information about how to dump and reconstruct roms etc. etc.

johndabrit said:
2.I already use WMWifiRouter to enable my passengers to use wifi on their notebooks while travelling. I would like to stream movies(very doable over 3g) to my psp so my son can watch them on the go.
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I have never used WMWifiRouter although it was always my understanding that does exactly what you are asking (make a WAP for access from any device). And indeed you are doing that, so I can only surmise there is something weird with how the PSP accesses it? I know i would have issues with my PSP when trying to connect to a hidden (non broadcast) SSID.
Anyway, it looks like WMWifiRouter had gone commercial..maybe it is updated to work better? You can download a trial and see, and possibly email for support. Tell them you want to buy it if it will work with PSP. I really don't know how it can advertise it is working as a WAP if a device can't connect to it. Assuming the devices all use the same 802.11 standard and support the same encryption protocols. Otherwise, his software isn't really doing what it says... but again I haven't really investigated it.

wmwifirouter creates an on-demand wireless connection, which is quite different from a wireless access point. When you use another laptop to connect through your kaiser's 3G via wmwifi, it's basically like an adhoc wireless connection. The psp doensn't support adhoc wifi for internet,(only for psp-psp communication) or on-demand wifi.
What you could try is using your laptop to connect to wmwifirouter and then using softAP to turn your laptop into a wireless access point and THEN use your psp to connect to your laptop. Then again its way to complicated to be viable, so just forget it

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wmwifirouter creates an on-demand wireless connection, which is quite different from a wireless access point. When you use another laptop to connect through your kaiser's 3G via wmwifi, it's basically like an adhoc wireless connection. The psp doensn't support adhoc wifi for internet,(only for psp-psp communication) or on-demand wifi.
What you could try is using your laptop to connect to wmwifirouter and then using softAP to turn your laptop into a wireless access point and THEN use your psp to connect to your laptop. Then again its way to complicated to be viable, so just forget it
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Right I just downloaded and played with the trial and see what you mean. I think your workaround using ICS on the laptop will definitely work, and you might be able to automate thes setup with some netsh commands...but it would definitely take 5-10 mins to set up manually.
Other than that research the CF on the PSP to see if anyone figured a way to connect ad-hoc... I haven't been on the PSP scene for about 6 months, so I don't know what is new.

nphil said:
wmwifirouter creates an on-demand wireless connection, which is quite different from a wireless access point. When you use another laptop to connect through your kaiser's 3G via wmwifi, it's basically like an adhoc wireless connection. The psp doensn't support adhoc wifi for internet,(only for psp-psp communication) or on-demand wifi.
What you could try is using your laptop to connect to wmwifirouter and then using softAP to turn your laptop into a wireless access point and THEN use your psp to connect to your laptop. Then again its way to complicated to be viable, so just forget it
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no no.. good thinking.. and not so complicated at that. Thanks for providing a solution and not bashing the attempt. Ill attempt this and let you know. I do have an old POS laptop i can reimage and set in the car with wake on lan active for the remote times.

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G1 wifi tethering for PSP or wireless game play

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See my post #2 in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3219168). It appears that like the Wii the PSP cannot connect to AdHoc networks so follow the directions that require an existing connection.
Geniusdog254 said:
See my post #2 in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3219168). It appears that like the Wii the PSP cannot connect to AdHoc networks so follow the directions that require an existing connection.
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The PSP can connect to AdHoc networks, but IIRC it's only used for multiplayer games. I don't think you can use the browser over adhoc. Granted, it's been years since I turned on my PSP and I never tried AdHoc mode, but /shrug.
gary actin like he wasn't part of the scene lol but anyways the psp won't stay searching long enough for it to find adhoc maybe i can code a app for hacked psp and wii to allow this (yessss i get to crack out the old sdk)
Gary13579 said:
The PSP can connect to AdHoc networks, but IIRC it's only used for multiplayer games. I don't think you can use the browser over adhoc. Granted, it's been years since I turned on my PSP and I never tried AdHoc mode, but /shrug.
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man that would be great if you could make an app
Like as noted above, PSP can do adhoc but it will not attempt an internet connection over adhoc.
I think one thing these tether-for-gaming threads fail to remember is that the ping over a tether connection will start at around 300-400 ms. A lot of games that only support adhoc play have little or no latency-compensation strategies and will be nigh impossible to play. Furthermore, unlike a wired connection to the internet, commercial cell networks are not designed to establish very robust connections. Those disconnections as G1 switches between 3G, EDGE, and no data (remember everytime you get a call, your data will be disconnected) would make keeping a stable connection difficult.
I have never lost data while during a phone call. This is not winmo, which u can not use data during a phone converstion...
I used to connect my PS3 via tethering, but it involved using a router.
Get your pc/laptop online via tethering. use an ethernet cable to connect the pc that is already online to the port on the router where you would normally connect the modem. Connect your PS3 to any of the other ports as if the router was online.
Go to network connections and bridge the connection between your active tethered internet connection and the ethernet port connection. Once the connections are bridged you should be able to get online via the ethernet ports on the router.
It worked for XP using my old sprint Mogul (or better known as the titan). I now have vista and haven't tried it out, but it should work just the same. I used to connect an xbox and a ps3 playing online via sprints rev. a speeds.
Ssantos6981 said:
I used to connect my PS3 via tethering, but it involved using a router.
Get your pc/laptop online via tethering. use an ethernet cable to connect the pc that is already online to the port on the router where you would normally connect the modem. Connect your PS3 to any of the other ports as if the router was online.
Go to network connections and bridge the connection between your active tethered internet connection and the ethernet port connection. Once the connections are bridged you should be able to get online via the ethernet ports on the router.
It worked for XP using my old sprint Mogul (or better known as the titan). I now have vista and haven't tried it out, but it should work just the same. I used to connect an xbox and a ps3 playing online via sprints rev. a speeds.
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Man I didnt even think of bridging...but you are right. tried it and it worked...
i was worried about this too. Then lastnight moved into my new hosue with no internet.... Found 1 spot in room on top of Ps3 where phone got 3g.... Used pdanet through USB, then shared that connection, then conncted the ps3 through enternet and played Bad company 2 for 3 hours with no lag. Now I cant find that 3g spot for the life of me lol. Old house, built in 1927... lots of lead blocking signals.
Curious??
I wonder,...
Will the Wii / PSP pick up a standard wireless signal if you use a wireless router for this?

Android wifi tether

Hey everybody I have a quick question for ya. I have started using android wifi tether. i was not planning on using it for my computer. instead for game systems. That require wifi to go online like ds, psp, wii, and ps3. So after hours of messing around with it I came up with the conclusion of...... it dosen't work 0_o. So is there an app that could do what the android wifi tether does but no only for Pc. i heard of aNetshare. But I don't see a link on their website. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
I found the Wifi teather to work great. The only problem I see for gaming is the ping MS response time. Generally games require less then ~50ms ping to server to perform properly. When I tested the speed of T-mo 3G network using the wifi teather app, and my XP laptop at speedtest.net. I found just under 1MB up/down with about 130ms ping times.
I know the XBox 360 supports adhoc wireless connections, not sure about other handhelds/consoles, but the ping time would be really bad in any FPS type game. This however would be the limitation of the 3G network, not the application.
Not sure if any of you have found better response times using 3G or not.
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I used the WiFi tether to connect my Xbox 360 to Live successfully. For two hours I played Modern Warfare 2 with NO lag. I was completely blown away by how well this worked.
I also was able to watch two episodes of leverage streaming from Netflix via the Xbox. The quality was reduced from my normal but it worked flawlessly. The video quality is determined by download speed which is just under 1MB for me with 3G.
I have the Microsoft wireless N adapter for the Xbox.
Good to hear I wasn't the only one. I did something similar to this back in October, where i had my G2 wifi sharing the net connection with my laptop, and then my laptop using a bridge to connect the xbox to that network (lan)
I'm on the rogers 7.2 mbps network, and managed to pull over 1mb speed too. Played some gears of war.
The reason I did this was 1/3 to see if it could be done, 1/3 to say I've done it, and 1/3 due to the fact that the I was moving/the net was cutoff.
The one problem that i would run into is overheating on the phone, obviously it's not really designed for that kind of load.
nobler1050 said:
Update...
I used the WiFi tether to connect my Xbox 360 to Live successfully. For two hours I played Modern Warfare 2 with NO lag. I was completely blown away by how well this worked.
I also was able to watch two episodes of leverage streaming from Netflix via the Xbox. The quality was reduced from my normal but it worked flawlessly. The video quality is determined by download speed which is just under 1MB for me with 3G.
I have the Microsoft wireless N adapter for the Xbox.
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Did you have to bridge it?I want to take my xbox to work and play online but dont want to take a laptop too its just to much to carry around.Can you PLEASE provide tut for doing it cause I have not found 1 Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me.
Ok that was simple enough but how can I get the NAT strict setting to change for regular play online
th30p3rat0r said:
Good to hear I wasn't the only one. I did something similar to this back in October, where i had my G2 wifi sharing the net connection with my laptop, and then my laptop using a bridge to connect the xbox to that network (lan)
I'm on the rogers 7.2 mbps network, and managed to pull over 1mb speed too. Played some gears of war.
The reason I did this was 1/3 to see if it could be done, 1/3 to say I've done it, and 1/3 due to the fact that the I was moving/the net was cutoff.
The one problem that i would run into is overheating on the phone, obviously it's not really designed for that kind of load.
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Gears of war is awesome!
faceman469 said:
Did you have to bridge it?I want to take my xbox to work and play online but dont want to take a laptop too its just to much to carry around.Can you PLEASE provide tut for doing it cause I have not found 1 Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me.
Ok that was simple enough but how can I get the NAT strict setting to change for regular play online
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The only reason he used the laptop was because he didn't have the wireless adapter for his Xbox, at least that's my guess. If you have the wireless adapter, you should not need a laptop.
As far as the NAT strict issue, I did not have that with MW2, but that may be an issue with your carrier not the phone hardware or application. If your carrier has some type of limitations.
good program for wifi is :
WIFINDER
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WIFI MANAGE widget
Barnacle Wifi/ WIfi tether works on the Ipad but not on my win7
Barnacle Wifi/ WIfi tether works on the Ipad but not on my win7 desktop.
I get good speeds on my ipad tethered to my phone. The win7 machine detects and connects to the network, however there is no data transfer that happens. I even disabled the firewall to check if that was the issue, but it wasnt.
Any ideas?
the regular old android wifi tether app works just fine for me. so far i have been able to connect to my win7 pc and an ipod touch. about to test with a ps3. will report on my findings. i found a link to the app somewhere on the site, just do a search for it
Wireless Tether

[Q] Reverse tether

I have searched this topic but they all centered on Macs or got off topic or someone gave an answer that didnt even solve the solution. So i thought i would ask myself. Is there any way to share my LAPTOPs wifi TO my DROID3???
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to the poster above; i dont like smarta**es. my post said i already searched so if you found something then post a link.
to everyone else i want something via usb or bluetooth. preferably usb. i have googled it and all the results are either hardware specific, need unbunto [i have windows 7] or dont have a solution. If you ever owned a zune [who has? lol besides a few of us] or a windows phone, they can do it from stock.
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I have a bluetooth usb adapter on my laptop I am not sure how it does it but it allows me to get online with my droid 3 via the bluetooth link, I click on connect via access point and it works. Sometimes it works and sometimes the signal gets killed, but try connecting through a bluetooth usb adapter.
I know you said preferably over Bluetooth or USB but have you considered trying something like a virtual access point for your PC? It would require WIFI but you could run a software app on your PC that broadcasts as an access point that you could connect to from your phone.
You have a phone that is wifi capable, but you want to thether to your pc to use the wifi connection.
Oh and I hate smartasses too.
*I love my Droid3..f'off Samsung Captivate*
bishop0114 said:
I know you said preferably over Bluetooth or USB but have you considered trying something like a virtual access point for your PC? It would require WIFI but you could run a software app on your PC that broadcasts as an access point that you could connect to from your phone.
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i have looked at those, but i prefer usb because it does not affect the battery life of my laptop as much. thanks for the advice.
cappysw10 said:
You have a phone that is wifi capable, but you want to thether to your pc to use the wifi connection.
Oh and I hate smartasses too.
*I love my Droid3..f'off Samsung Captivate*
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yes because my laptop has the intel ultimate 6300 wireless card. it can pick up alot mroe connecttins and connect to 5ghz. My droid3 cant pick up the connections i need. offer help or please stop commenting.
thank you to the rest of you for trying to help me solve this problem. I apprieciate it alot
enigmaco said:
I have a bluetooth usb adapter on my laptop I am not sure how it does it but it allows me to get online with my droid 3 via the bluetooth link, I click on connect via access point and it works. Sometimes it works and sometimes the signal gets killed, but try connecting through a bluetooth usb adapter.
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do you know the name of the adaptor? this sounds perfect
ASUS bluetooth adapter I got it from meritiline a couple years ago, just been using it recently. And all I did was turn on the bluetooth on my phone and it worked, didn't download any software or anything.
That's funny as he'll.
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That's funny as he'll.
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Your telling me I was just fooling around with my phone and laptop on day, and clicked on a link and boom I was online. I looked at my signal and was thinking "what the hell just happened?" lol
Ifnyou have windows 7 just install connectify
Google it (smartassingly probably just add a .com to that..)
It adds an AP virtual. That sjould not spend alot more of power as you have already wifi running.
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If you laptop has Bluetooth (It should, I thought all Intel wifi chipsets in laptops were also Bluetooth) then what you want is a PAN "Personal Area Network". I thought the basic bluetooth stack in Windows supported this out of the box. (The Toshiba BT stack I used with Windows XP did, I don't know for sure about the MS BT stack in Windows 7 though).
Then you just turn on Internet Connection Sharing for you Wifi adapter to the Bluetooth PAN adapter.
Something like that anyway. I'm going from memory on the Windows side, and assuming the Droid 3 (etc.) supports PAN on its Bluetooth setup.
Doing it with USB though is trickier. On Windows 7, my ME863 appears as a network device with IP address, but I don't know if it'd work if I simply used ICS to share a link to the device because I don't know that the phone would be looking for a DHCP server. (It _is_ a DHCP server at this point)
Are you sure your not using the phones 3g or wifi. Did you try turnin on airplane mode and seeing if you still have internet
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I just had a play, and I don't think my bluetooth solution is as easy as I'd hoped.
My Milestone 3 was able to join a PAN with my laptop and form their little adhoc network.
The best phone-side instructions I could find are at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666988 however a look around suggests that Windows 7 ICS won't let you share a network connection _to_ a BT network. I certainly couldn't see a way, although possibly it was because my phone is exporting a default gateway, rather than because of any inherent limitation of Windows.
It's a starting point, but not a particularly promising one. Whether ICS can be made to share Internet to the bluetooth PAN or not is really the only sticking point for "possible" versus "impossible" but a root-enabled App or possibly custom ROM would be needed on the phone to move from "possible" to "easy".
cappysw10 said:
You have a phone that is wifi capable, but you want to thether to your pc to use the wifi connection.
Oh and I hate smartasses too.
*I love my Droid3..f'off Samsung Captivate*
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thank you all for all the help and feedback. im not sure if it was earlier in this thread, or another thread but someone gave me this link. and then i just saw it on the front page so i thought id post it here.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/reverse-tethering-keeping-your-android-device-online/
its currently in development, i havent tested it on my phonhe. well i did and it said connected, but i couldnt tell if i was using 3g or not. but if any of you want to try it, give some feedback and once again thanks to you all !
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I just had a play, and I don't think my bluetooth solution is as easy as I'd hoped.
My Milestone 3 was able to join a PAN with my laptop and form their little adhoc network.
The best phone-side instructions I could find are at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666988 however a look around suggests that Windows 7 ICS won't let you share a network connection _to_ a BT network. I certainly couldn't see a way, although possibly it was because my phone is exporting a default gateway, rather than because of any inherent limitation of Windows.
It's a starting point, but not a particularly promising one. Whether ICS can be made to share Internet to the bluetooth PAN or not is really the only sticking point for "possible" versus "impossible" but a root-enabled App or possibly custom ROM would be needed on the phone to move from "possible" to "easy".
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Can you/did you try setting up a network bridge w/the bluetooth adapter and whatever WAN you're using?
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Can you/did you try setting up a network bridge w/the bluetooth adapter and whatever WAN you're using?
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Just had a quick go, and it wouldn't bridge 'em.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/84731dc8-0b23-433b-a58b-a0a2d41d93be/ suggests that a third-party Bluetooth stack would work though, just not the MS stack.

Internet sharing over bluetooth

I have a high speed wired Internet connection at work, and would like to be able to connect to it with my N7. I bought the usb 4.0 dangle for my desktop, and can connect fine but can't figure out how to share the internet connection. I think I need to run some software on my N7? There seems to be a lot of discussion about tethering a windows laptop to a cellphone to share the cellphone's data connection, but not much about going in the other direction. Any help appreciated.
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I have a high speed wired Internet connection at work, and would like to be able to connect to it with my N7. I bought the usb 4.0 dangle for my desktop, and can connect fine but can't figure out how to share the internet connection. I think I need to run some software on my N7? There seems to be a lot of discussion about tethering a windows laptop to a cellphone to share the cellphone's data connection, but not much about going in the other direction. Any help appreciated.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Try searching for "USB tether" Google Play. There's more than a few free apps.
-PMS
PsychoMcSatan said:
Try searching for "USB tether" Google Play. There's more than a few free apps.
-PMS
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I'm not looking for usb tether. I'm looking to tether the nexus 7 to windows 7 over bluetooth 4.0. The only potential solution I've found is "open garden," but I'm a bit worried about security.
Classpro said:
I'm not looking for usb tether. I'm looking to tether the nexus 7 to windows 7 over bluetooth 4.0. The only potential solution I've found is "open garden," but I'm a bit worried about security.
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I think that's the only application for your exact need...if I come across any others I'll post here and let you know.
Or you could buy a cheap Wifi router? Bluetooth has very low transfer speeds. Max speed is 25mbps and that's probably on top of each other.
There is software on the net that turns your PC into a router and spits out internet over wifi. I had to use this in a hotel with wired only connections.
If your trying time avoid wifi for some reason... good luck. Bluetooth is a pain to setup but I'm.sure there are apps for it somewhere.
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Can't use a wifi router because they detect it and shut off the connection.
Open garden works perfectly, but some programs including k-9 mail don't think there is an Internet connection. Have to manually sync (which works). I've seen some suggestions that if I reinstall and set up k9 with the open garden connection it might work. When I get time I'll post results.
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Would something like a ZTE MF60 mobile hotspot work? it's a 3g wifi router, I use one with my N7 at work or out and about very successfully.
The downside is you wouldn't be using the works high speed connection but your own 3g connection which obviously you'd have to pay for.
This is not bluetooth, just USB, but maybe it can meet some of your needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371345
player911 said:
Or you could buy a cheap Wifi router? Bluetooth has very low transfer speeds. Max speed is 25mbps and that's probably on top of each other.
There is software on the net that turns your PC into a router and spits out internet over wifi. I had to use this in a hotel with wired only connections.
If your trying time avoid wifi for some reason... good luck. Bluetooth is a pain to setup but I'm.sure there are apps for it somewhere.
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Possibly talking about connectify? I use it and it works well.

Chromecast : worst experience ever !

Hi guys,
Is it just me, or is the Chromecast about the most ridiculous device ever made ?
It does not only need a Wi-Fi connection (which is normal : the wireless signal has to come from somewhere) but it also needs an internet connection.
I would like to cast the screen of my smartphone when I'm not at home.
So I got me a wireless router.
I activate it.
The Chromecast can connect to it.
The Smartphone can connect to it.
And so the smartphone can connect to the Chromecast.
But that's it...
I can't cast anything because I have no internet connection.
OK.
So I turned on my phone as an access point.
I then configured the travel router to get the internet connection from the phone.
Cool... now the Chromecast says it's ready to cast.
But now I'm stuck because as soon as I want to cast something from my phone to the Chromecast, I have to turn Wi-Fi on...
But turning on Wi-Fi on my phone disables the AP.
And so the Chromecast refuses to display anything because it's not connected to the internet anymore !
Isn't that about the most stupid thing ever designed ?
Frankly, I then see only really little use to it...
And I think I am not the only one : there are about 10 apps that are Cast capable...
And that after more than a year the dongle has been released !
Will look for something that is able to cast without an internet connection.
Will probably be much easier... and maybe even cheaper !
If you have an advice on how to get this POS to work without an internet connection, I'll gladly take your advice.
If that is not easily achieved, if you have an alternative, I'll gladly consider it...
regards.
What are you trying to send to your Chromecast? Netflix, YouTube, and other services that have the cast button basically act as remote controls for the Chromecast, but it needs its own Internet connection to stream the content as your phone is just inputting commands for it.
You could try (albeit I've never done this) connecting the Chromecast to your hotspot access point, and then just using the built-in screen mirroring feature of the Chromecast app. Granted, that would mean you'd have to leave your phone's screen on...but it would show the same thing that's on the phone, on the TV. And I'm not sure if that would even work since you still don't have WiFi on and your phone is acting as the modem and not as a device on the same network.
The only other things I could suggest, would be to buy additional hardware. You could go through your carrier to purchase one of those hotspot devices, then connect your phone and your Chromecast to that, and that will work. Though with that option you'll most likely have to pay an extra fee for the data line for the hotspot device. The other route you could take, would be to buy a cheap tablet or another phone and use it as the controller when your primary phone is in hotspot mode. The latter option is what my friend does as he uses his phone's unlimited data plan to provide Internet through his entire house when he's at home...and just uses his tablet to stream Netflix to the Chromecast.
If you have no internet connection, you'll be streaming everything over your mobile data connection anyway. That's going to get expensive, but whatever...
So why are you using the router if you can't get a wired or WiFi internet connection? Just turn on the WiFi access point mode on your phone, and have the Chromecast connect to it. Then both your phone and the Chromecast will be on the same LAN.
You even need an Internet connection when streaming local media because (1) the device has to constantly authenticate with Google, which I swear Google isn't going to be logging or abusing, and (b) the Chromecast is relatively stupid by streaming and spec standards, and you can't just give it a file and expect it to work.
That's why so many apps will take forever to load large pictures (slower than a picture CD) or even to unpause media... it throws its buffer away on pause.
Why not just try an HDMI cable? No WiFi needed, all local codecs are supported, etc.
I recommend you do basic research on a product before purchasing it next time. You should look into cheap miracast dongles.
I like my chromecast, but my android stick gets about 10x more usage. Chromecast seriously needs some more streaming services. If you don't have Netflix, in the UK it has about two widely used apps (youtube and iplayer), and that's it, not great this far on.
Ridiculous device ever made? Get yourself an internet connection for your house and then try the showbox app and allcast app to send the media to the Chromecast. I have 2 Chromecast in my house and I use it daily. If you simply want to cast your screen without internet. Get a slimport to HDMI cable.
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Is it just me, or is the Chromecast about the most ridiculous device ever made ?
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It's just you... Everyone else have internet connection at home, which is normal these days...
Hi Srandista,
Yes, everyboby has an internet connection at home.
But then again, everybody probably also has :
- a Blu-Ray player with Wi-Fi and/or Ethernet ;
- a television that is Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and Ethernet enabled ;
- a media player/streamer that is Ethernet and Wi-Fi enabled...
So we're saying the same thing :
- at home everyone has an internet connection AND connected devices => the Chromecast is useless ;
- when you're not at home, the Chromecast is useless until you're somewhere where you can get an internet connection...
And even then : if I want to cast a Video to my Chromecast, I have to upload my video to the cloud BEFORE I start to stream...
Isn't that ridiculous ? Especially as using other software allows to stream directly ?
Just for your information : there are other devices like the Chromecast (they even look like the Chromecast) that can be used without an internet connection.
Sorry, but despite your answer, I persist saying that the Chromecast conception lacks some common sense and some analysis of the customer needs.
Regards.
DJames1 said:
If you have no internet connection, you'll be streaming everything over your mobile data connection anyway. That's going to get expensive, but whatever...
So why are you using the router if you can't get a wired or WiFi internet connection? Just turn on the WiFi access point mode on your phone, and have the Chromecast connect to it. Then both your phone and the Chromecast will be on the same LAN.
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Hi,
Thanks for your answer.
But that won't work. As I wrote in my post : if I turn on my phone as an AP, that disables the Wi-Fi. So I can't stream to my Chromecast that way.
Regards.
xFuGiToiDx said:
Ridiculous device ever made? Get yourself an internet connection for your house and then try the showbox app and allcast app to send the media to the Chromecast. I have 2 Chromecast in my house and I use it daily. If you simply want to cast your screen without internet. Get a slimport to HDMI cable.
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Hi
Many thanks for your kind reply.
I would recommend you read posts before flaming people.
If you would have, you would have noticed that I was saying I was trying to use it WHEN I AM NOT at home.
I have a 100Mbps line at home. But also a networked TV, a networked Blu-Ray player and a networked Media player /streamer.
So I don't really have the use of a Chromecast at home...
Regards.
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I recommend you do basic research on a product before purchasing it next time. You should look into cheap miracast dongles.
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Hi,
That is what I usually do.
BUT : honestly :
1°) the need for an active internet connection for the thing to even work does not appear clearly ;
2°) I don't spend 5 hours researching for a 35 bucks device... my time is somewhat more precious than that.
I'll look into cheap Miracast devices. I only need to mirror my screen, so I guess that more than enough.
Regards.
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You even need an Internet connection when streaming local media because (1) the device has to constantly authenticate with Google, which I swear Google isn't going to be logging or abusing, and (b) the Chromecast is relatively stupid by streaming and spec standards, and you can't just give it a file and expect it to work.
That's why so many apps will take forever to load large pictures (slower than a picture CD) or even to unpause media... it throws its buffer away on pause.
Why not just try an HDMI cable? No WiFi needed, all local codecs are supported, etc.
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Hi,
Thanks...
Yes, that's what I am doing right now. Phone with a MHL adpator and HDMI plugged into the projector.
But that implies that I have a cable lying around my class and me or my student are likely to stumble on it...
That is why I wanted to use the Chromecast...
Regards.
Hi,
OK, to make things clear, here's what I would like to do.
I am a teacher.
During my class I pass .ppt slides on a VP.
During my class, I don't sit behind my desk : I walk among the students.
So what I would like to do is following :
- 1°) connect my phone to the VP with the Chromecast ;
- 2°) have my phone displaying the slides => a simple mirror of the screen will do ;
- 3°) use a tablet in "Presentation mode" as a remote for the phone so I can go the next slide when I want to.
I can achieve everything using a MHL adaptor to connect the phone to the VP.
But I would like to be able to make that wirelessly...
Chromecast is a no go... unless of course I add another device in the whole bunch : smartphone + 2 tablets. Phone as access point, tablet 1 as caster ; tablet 2 as remote. then of course, I will need some chargers, an external battery pack... Not really the simplification I was looking for.
Regards.
Goodness, the supporters of Google Cast are rather quick to throw down the gauntlet today. =( As somebody who is constantly critiquing devices, I can say with certainty that there are many things that even reading reviews will not disclose, and even if the information is available, it might be hard to find.
Telling somebody they should get internet access in the snobbish manner seen here really doesn't help matters at all either.... less bile equals a greater percentage of useful content, right? Talking about MHL or Miracast or discussing manufacturer specific options or suggesting different CC compatible devices (Matchstick anyone? It's coming in 2015) might be more helpful.
For example, as it stands, I can't believe using a phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot would knock out its data functionality... or at least that it would make it impossible to connect to a CC. That seems like a fundamental problem there.
Here is the best possible solution for you nexus....
You will have to give up on the Phone showing the slides because you are attempting to stream to two devices which doesn't work.
You really shouldn't need the phone to display...
Plug the CCast into the Projector....
Turn on the Hotspot feature of your phone, It will still get it's data and email and tweets ect ect ....
Set up the CCast to get it's internet from the Phone WiFi Hotspot and then connect the tablet to the Hotspot as well.
You should then be able to cast the screen of the tablet to the Projector and run your slideshow.
You might even be able to use some other powerpoint viewer app that supports CCast (I think VBU kit does that) but you can just as easily screen cast the tablet to the projector if your tablet supports it.
You should be good to go the only thing that you will be missing is the display of the slides on the phone and since you are manipulating the slides on the tablet there really is no reason to see them on the phone as well.
I was pretty much going to recommend a similar fix. I have an old crap phone with no data plan that I play movies on while traveling. I just setup my actual phone as the hotspot and have my crap phone and CC connect to it. I have heard :? that the app that shall remain nameless thing works pretty good. I use Avia to throw those shows to my CC.
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NexusPenguin said:
Hi Srandista,
But then again, everybody probably also has :
- a Blu-Ray player with Wi-Fi and/or Ethernet ;
- a television that is Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and Ethernet enabled ;
- a media player/streamer that is Ethernet and Wi-Fi enabled...
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I love my Chromecast. Prior to buying it, I had:
- A Blu-Ray player with internet connectivity... with a slow, horrible interface, and poor streaming services support.... that also didn't stream from local devices.
- An HDTV with no network support
- A "media player" that didn't work with most/any of the pay-for streaming services, that I had to constantly troubleshoot, with a low Wife Acceptance Factor.
With the Chromecast I can stream locally (from a Plex Server), watch most of the pay-for streaming services I want (so I can "cut the cord"), and it "just works" as far as the Wife is concerned, so she's happy. Even my kiddos can use it. Given that the Chromecast remains the top seller in the Electronics category at Amazon, I think Google hit the nail on the head with this one. Far from a "stupid", "useless", "ridiculous", concept that "lacks some common sense and some analysis of the customer needs" that results in the "worst experience ever".
Just because you're pissed that the square peg you bought won't fit in a round hole doesn't mean the device is stupid or useless. It's like the saying goes that "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Go get yourself a screwdriver, because you have the wrong tool for your particular job. I mentioned Plex once already: If you're looking for a simple, offline streaming experience with that works like the Chromecast does get yourself a Raspberry Pi, and install RaspPlex on it. If you're trying to playback from a local disk, put XBMC on it instead. I plan on putting a media center in my kid-hauler, and one of these two will probably end up being what I use. There are many options out there for offline playback, but the Chromecast it not one of them.
Well said. I have two chromecast and they are exactly what I need. Very useful.
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