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help on how to use the storage card as main drive

can some one point me in the right direction for this been look thru multiple thread trying to find it but no luck.
this is for a cingular 8125

The main drive for what? If you mean the IE cache, then the Registry Wizard found on this forum can do that. If you mean for individual apps, the CAB files will allow you to choose whether to install on the device or on the memory card when you install them. Beyond that, I guess I'm not sure what you'd mean...

I guess he wants the entire OS to run from storage card instead. Its like you want Windows XP running off a DVD-RW disk instead of HDD for your PC.

no i think he probably means when you install some apps to the storage card .. when you go to run them it is looking for the ".EXE" on the device and throws an error... probably how to fix that ..

i just want all apps to run from storage using 2 gig sd card, seem slike everythin i install and choose storage card seems to be on main memory instead of storage even tho i choose storage card i still see in main memory

A lot of apps will still copy some stuff to main memory regardless where you want to install them. Some apps like Today plug ins will even have problem running off storage card especially on old ROMs. Keep this in mind, storage card is slow and not immediately available after wake up from sleep mode. It is best left to be used as storage (as the name implies) rather than program memory.

Touch-IT wing 2.3 - Moving the Pre-Installed Programs to a MicroSD

Hey. I'm using the Touch-IT wing 2.3 ROM. I love it, but it doesn't leave much free space on the system hard drive. Is there a way to move some of the extra programs that come with the ROM to be moved to my 2GB MicroSD card? Or tweak the ROM so it installs these applications on the storage card?
Thanks.

The best way is: at first install, when you see your Today Screen, it will install all the programs after 3 seconds, do a softreset before it begins to install them and then install your programs yhourself and then you have the option to choose where you can install them, main memory, storage card...

The preinstall apps are stored in the OS ROM so they cannot be moved or deleted short of making your own ROM. Heralds lack the ability to BigStorage. This means that no matter how much you take out, your storage space will always be the same size. (Or at least that what I've been lead to believe...)
But yea, like he said, stop the ExtROM launch.

With Wizcode PocketMechanic, you can move installations... so this may something close to what you may be trying to do.
I moved all the Tmobile crap and everything else over to storage card and I haven't had any problems yet.

Main Memory

Happy New 2008,
Was exploring my Kasier & noticed from Setting->Memory that my memory status as follow:-
Main, Total:135M, In use:130M, Free:5M
Program, Total:101M, In use:42M, Free:59M
Which is the RAM memory? ROM memory?
When I went to "remove program", I realised programs that I installed are shown in "Programs in storage memory".. even I had directed to "memory card".. How do I know which are the program I had intended be installed in memory card? I'm confused and would appreciate any kind soul can direct me...
Thanks in advance..

Do you think this helps?
Regards,
Carty..

Sorry, just to confirm, so when you are installing a program, you tell it to install to your Micro SD Card, but it installs to the Main Memory instead?

Thanks.
Yes, I directed to micro-SD card, I can see the files are stored under the program files of memory card, but why it occupied the "storage memory" of the main memory, now I left with 5M??

Actually, I am having this problem as well. Programs that I had installed on the Micro SD are showing up in the Program Files folder on my device rather than storage card.
I just uninstalled Google Maps and confirmed absence of Google Maps folder in both device and mem card. When reinstalling the app, I chose to install on mem card. However, browsing with Total Commander shows the Google Maps exe and folder has been installed to main mem, with no Google Maps folder to be found on mem card.
Any bright ideas?

try clearing your temp internet files that eats a lot of phone memory and should free up quite a bit for you

Thanks for that. It's not really the amount of free memory that is the issue for me. It's more the fact that, despite choosing "SD card", all the programs seem to be installed on the main memory.

Software installation - Device or Storage?

I have just done a ROM upgrade to WM6.1 and plan to reinstall the various apps I hade on the TyTn II (which is only a week or so old). I have searched on Google and looked in the Wiki, FAQs and searched the forums with all manner of search terms but cannot find an answer to what may be a dumb question.
When installing apps is it better to install on device or storage (where the option is offered)? I would have though Storage better to keep memory on device free but wonder if certain progammes and any files they create when being used are better or essential to run on the device because of either pathname issues or speed of access?? Any help appreciated.
I plan to re-install:
Phat Notes
List Pro
SPB Wallet
Co-Pilot
Sprite Back Up

You understand the issues already. I don't use any of those programs so cant comment on them specifically but I install the few bit's of software I do use on my device and only Tomtoms maps, my music and my user created things like docs and photos go on my storage card - thats simply because there isn't enough internal memory to hold all of that and I don't want to run the risk of programs not being available if I take my card out (although that doesn't often happen). I've found that installing Tomtoms voices to internal memory sometimes helps prevent missing words and problems with voice navigation otherwise you could just test out things each way and see which you prefer.
People here have reported they can load many programs at once and the TyTN IIs memory management capabilities keep on top of the situation to prevent running out of internal memory. Unless someone else here has experience installing all those programs both ways, I suspect you'll need to try it and see which you prefer.

Personally as a guide, any program that requires autostart (e.g. all SIPs, SPB GPRS Monitor), I try to install in memory.
Any other program that starts only when I start them, I install into storage card.

IMO, its better to load programs on your memory card so that you don't clutter up your phone memory and consequently slow it down (to be honest, i have never faced this on my TYTN 2, but i guess its a habbit from my Atom days...) I only load today plugins (like Ultimate Launch, RL Today etc..) on the phone 'cause these programs don't work if you load them on the card.
I use Destinator for GPS and this program installs itself on the phone by default, so I copy the destinator folder to the card and overwrite the shortcut for the .exe file in the windows>programs folder to make it work from the card...
So here's my pick
List Pro - Memory Card
SPB Wallet - Memory Card
Co-Pilot - Memory Card
Sprite Back Up - Memory Card
I like my phone clean...

Thanks. After more pondering I think installing all on the device may be better. I can get a full back of them all then using sprite and, as you say, if I take out the SD, or if it dies, I will have no access to data. The programmes are only small and even their files (which i suppose I could create on the storage) are small. I think that create on device, store on device and back up to storage may be better. I will be unlikely to install much else other than Mobile Shell and Phone suite by SPB.
That said I MIGHT go the Card route. No perfect answer I suppose. I'll try the ROM upgrade then a card install first perhaps. If I don't like I can always re-install on the phone. I suppose it's easy enough to back up the card contents and the back up/synch options with the programmes should allow back ups on the main PC (or even My Docs on the phone).

pdaPhone_TM said:
Personally as a guide, any program that requires autostart (e.g. all SIPs, SPB GPRS Monitor), I try to install in memory.
Any other program that starts only when I start them, I install into storage card.
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I second that.

Before the Kaiser I used to put the few programs that were really system-related and/or that I'd still need if the card was out (utilities, explorers, startup items, programs that had today plugins) on the device, and all the rest and big apps on the memory card.
But the Hermes had 40MB free when fresh and empty after a hard reset. Now my Kaiser has about 120MB free when empty, so I just put everything in the internal memory, including MioMap with my country's map, and GPS tuner with maybe 10MB of JPG maps. The only exceptions are 2 very large apps (60MB together) that I anyway barely ever use but just have "in case", those are on the card.
And even after that I still have 35MB free on the device

It use to be a challenge choosing which ones go on main memory or SD card. Some were a no brainer, like Memmaid or Resco Explorer. The very nature of their operation dictated they are on main memory. As another stated, if it was a start up program it had to be on main memory. Sometimes it was a trial and error to find out.
With the Kaiser and its massive memory increase, now my rule is, everything goes to main memory and only games go to the SD card. I still have over 40mb left, and that’s more than my last phone had to start with!

Having pondered even more!!!! Think I may go the device route for the small apps AND keep their files on the device (using the SD card for back ups along with the PC). I may do a split install for the Co Pilot sat nav. Seems more sensible to have the APP installed on the device but have its maps installed on an SD. Figure the maps will eat up a horde of memory on the device. I'll likely also use the SD for photos and music.
Having done it all the other way round I'm now ever pondering:
Clear Storage (hard reset)
Re-flash ROM for clean system
Hard Reset again (which seems to be good practice)
Install all in the right places!!!
All this MAY be a bit drastic and I wonder (seeing as everything is currently working!!) whether simply an uninstall/re-install of the apps might be good enough or even a hard reset followed by re-install.

Hard reset already clears your system, no need to reflash. Do a hard reset and reinstall your stuff, that's it.

Thanks. I ay do just that. Only thing I didn't do (I think) is hard reset after I installed the ROM so I'm wondering whether to bite the bullet and completely do the whole lot again in case in not hard re-setting after flashing I've stored up some future problems.
Also, on the sat nav front, any thoughts on this? I was wondering whether to put both the programme (Co Pilot) and the maps on storage or put the programme on the TyTn and just maps on storage??

i've installed nearly everything to the storage card. it might be a bit slower but i have had no trouble with anything... so far.

goodpill said:
i've installed nearly everything to the storage card. it might be a bit slower but i have had no trouble with anything... so far.
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I have to ask... what is the reason for installing everything to the SD card?

GWelker62 said:
I have to ask... what is the reason for installing everything to the SD card?
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i like to keep maximum memory free. usually only run a program or two at a time but i have some rather large data files in email etc.
just a personal preference from many years of pda's

[Q] Can't see SD Card

Hi
Just a quick question. Running WM7 on HTC HD2 but I can't see my SD card or any settings to get to it.
Is there any obvious setting I've missed.

You won't see it as such as it's effectively incorporated into the WP7 file system. You can tweak your PC's registry to make the device appear in Windows Explorer, which gives you limited access to folders, but you really need to use Zune or email to put files onto the device - the card doesn't work quite like it used to in terms of portable storage.
I understand schapps is working on a WP7 'Device Centre' that may help with some aspects of this - should be released following the forthcoming WP7 update.

Thanks for info.
After install I only have 64MB of data storage left. Therefore I can't install aps or take pic's etc so looks like Android for me then.

Hi,
I had the same problem few days agot...
I tried two of my sd cards, and it didn't work, so I bought a new one, and re install my hd2, then it worked...
You can try to reformat the card with SDFormatter, maybe it could help!
But you have to hard reset your phone when you change your sd card.
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