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Is anyone successing using the Kaiser with a Slingbox? I have the latest version of the SB Mobile software that is supposed to run on WM6 but it's very unstable and crashes constantly. I did determine that running Wisbar Advanced would make it crash every time it tried to connect, but shutting that down before starting the program only slightly improved it's stability. I generally can connect and watch video, but any menu options will crash it, as will trying to disconnect and connect again. The Slingbox folks are no help at all, they say the Tilt is not a supported phone (what the heck is WM6 support supposed to mean then??) I'm using the stock HTC ROM, nothing custom or fancy that should be causing problems.
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
jomo25 said:
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
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I did search the forum for any comments on sling player, but didn't find much more than a couple mentions of it, only person mentioning a problem was on a thread about the WIMP GPS tracking program. Not sure what you are referring to about a browser proxy issue, what browser?
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Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
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Aggh, I have been through so many stinking hard resets with this device so far, I just can't stand wasting yet another day trying to reinstall everything *again*. It just seems like every program I attempt to put on it causes something else to break. And I've tried very hard to only install stuff that is stated to work for WM6. But no matter, I have these constant issues all the time. If it's not crashes, it's email failing to check or alarms not going off, or the time not updating properly or whatever. It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
Wow, sorry it's been so agro. I can say that I have one of the first out Kaisers, running Sling Mobile and a slew of other progs, Wimp, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live, ContactsCM, PocketInformant, JournalBar, and my SlingBox has never hung. I've not hard reset yet and seldom soft reset. So I know that it can work, you need to start out with a fresh install and add 1 thing a time till you find the problem progs. One of them is messing with you, and unfortunately you've got to find it, one fricking app at a time.
Well, hard-resetting did make the SlingPlayer run flawlessly. I've been slowing adding stuff back on over the last day but have yet to run into whatever it was that was causing the problem. I was hoping it would be something obvious, so I could just restore from backup and not have to spend a lot of time on this, but of course, I couldn't be that lucky and have to put hours of work into it....
I tend to back up a lot as I add apps and test (I prefer SBP Backup), kinda like setting restore points in windows, just in case that last straw app trashes things. Seems the shell progs cause the most issues.
I generally do as well...in this case though the last app I installed *was* the Slingbox Player, so going back to earlier backups wouldn't necessarily save me any time.
I see, I always load Sling 1st then Core player and go from there.
My slingbox wasn't currently connected and running, so I hadn't bothered to download and load the mobile player yet. I don't even have it registered yet, as on my old phone, I never got a good enough connection to get much use out of it. It definitely flies on this phone though!
I'm beginning to wonder if it was simply the order of install that made the difference, as I have all but a couple things reinstalled and it still is working fine. Had one lock-up yesterday from trying to go to fullscreen and back again, but it's definitely far more stable than I was getting before.
I must say as well, this player really blows any other internet TV options out the window! The playback quality really is awesome and being able to watch my own favorite shows at any time is so cool. I never got a ton of use from the Slingbox in the past because a lot of times when I travel I just didn't have access to a good high-speed connection, I'm glad I will finally really be getting some good use out of it. Only problem is that I have the classic model that has these crappy mini-jack inputs with input only (no video pass-through) and I don't have enough outputs on my Tivo as a result to connect everything that I use at once. So I'm trying to decide if it's worth paying to upgrade to a new Slingbox or not. I would guess that the Slingbox Solo would also do a better job with all the HD stuff and correct the aspect a bit better (with the classic, the image is always a bit squished).
Well, haven't quite solved my Sling Player Mobile issues. It seems to work fine over 3G, but crashes every time if I try to connect over my home Wifi connection. Anyone else seeing this? I'd prefer to use the Wifi when available to not overuse the phone service too much (not sure if AT&T really is monitoring this, but no point in testing it if I don't have to!)
maryjos said:
It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts.
You may recall a few years ago when Microsoft went to a signed driver model. Lots of people complained about it, especially companies that produce hardware. But what did we get for it? Fewer crashes and resource conflicts caused by driver incompatabilities. If the mobile world would develop some standards in development and testing the problems you are seeing would become less frequent and easier to resolve.
Is Microsoft perfect? HA! Far from it. But make sure you are pointing the finger at the real culprit.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
Can I ask a question to you guys about what sort of frames per second you are getting. I am sitting here with my TYTN 2 getting about 8 FPS on Hsdpa full signal. Any thoughts on why the FPS might be so low?.
Many thanks.
Matt.
I have had a look about on the net and the seetings that seem to be the best are 65 bitrate ,full FPS, 30 iframe. I am now getting a good 24 FPS. I hope this helps someone.
Matt.
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email. Vanilla JUST about everything works as advertised. Does the Tilt have bugs ? Sure everything has bugs.
Using a password and coming out of suspend the back-light is DIM. Completely unreadable in sunlight. Not an OS issue as other WM6 devices didn't have this problem.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust. I think they have come along way since 2003, WM5, moving toward WM6. As for Palm there have been multiple version of their OS mostly geared toward PDA's.
Every OS has issues thats why we get new versions.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ? All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy. I am guessing here but I don't believe Microsoft will show up and fix it, nor will HTC. YOU get to fix it
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
I use it, and like it, so much so that if an app breaks Slingplayer I remove that app not Slingplayer. Others may feel the same way about a Wishbar or an SPB product. If an application is considered CORE that should go in first warts and all.
I installed Microsoft Live search with beta voice support. Cool app like Google maps. It locked up my device hard, twice, and I had to stylus reset to recover. Was it this beta or something else that didnt play nice? I removed the 'not ready for prime time' search application and all is well.
Any application that hooks API's and interrupts in an attempt to supplement and extend functionality is suspect.
That Tilt is a very complex little product. If you are striving to improve its functionality beyond what came in the box, it will be up to you to strike a balance as to what works for you.
Frustrating, at times....
Fun, it can be. I didn't spend hundreds of dollars to be eternally pissed off.
And when it stops being fun and or productive maybe a different OS or closed venue like the iPhone might be a better way to go.
These forums are here to help. We are trying to look for solutions to make these products as cool as they can be.
notrhj said:
I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
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Wow, you must be some kind of magician to just come to that conclusion. I have had PPC devices that did NOT work as advertised out of the box. My last one never was able to properly connect with Wifi. I did a hard reset all the way back to nothing but the core apps and it still had problems. The manufacturer blamed it on my router (even though my laptop and Palm device previously had no issues) but I still went out and got another router...and still had problems.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email.
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Gee, aren't you lucky then. The fact that it works for you does not therefore mean it works for everyone else, particularly since there are many different types of email servers that it needs to connect properly to. With the HTC home app running and nothing else whatsoever installed on my Tilt, I had issues with it checking email.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust.
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Exactly...and from where I stand, they've not made as much progress in this area as they need to.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ?
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As you JUST said above, they have a responsibility to make the OS robust. If it was a matter of a single app causing a problem, that's one thing. But it's not, it's a problem with the Windows Mobile platform. How many times do you see on this forum people told they will need to hard-reset their device because of a problem? That's just absurd. If I had to reformat my desktop every time it started misbehaving because of something new I installed, I'd be up in arms!
All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy.
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This is just an absurd statement. I don't expect them to regression test every combination of apps on Windows XP, but I also expect if I install something it's not going to bring my entire system to a crashing halt. But even if it does, on those very rare occasions if you are using legitimate software, at least I have a system restore point to get my device back to a working state, or can boot into safe mode to remove the offending program, etc. Where is the similar type of functionality for Windows Mobile?? Oh, I have to get a 3rd party app like Sprite Backup for that kind of thing. Of course, I had issues with that crashing on me as well (only some of the backup options work).
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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So you've had issues with WM devices connecting via Wifi before? Does it work on someone else's Wifi network?
Which version of Slingplayer are you using? When you say it crashes, does it actually crash or just closes itself?
Also, the HTC Home plugin should have zero effect on checking email.
You can blame the software/hardware, but I don't think there are any other users having so many unique issues. Maybe WM isn't for you?
Does anyone have this running on a tilt?
http://www.qik.com/
it's a live streaming web video that uses your phones camera.
Mine gets stuck on launch with "initializing camera". Other people on the qik site with a tilt have the same issue.
Wondering if anyone is running it here or knows how to fix that problem.
there is a cab to enable att video calling, i assume that since att doesnt support video calling that is the problem. search for the cab, youll find it, also try installing att disable hidden proxy cab. hope that helps
cab
can someone post the cab file for tilt here? sms method didn't work for me
bilbobrian said:
there is a cab to enable att video calling, i assume that since att doesnt support video calling that is the problem. search for the cab, youll find it, also try installing att disable hidden proxy cab. hope that helps
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no its not! it is for video streaming!
I had forgotten about Qik.
I signed up a while ago, only to discover that our phone wasn't supported!
I've just resurrected my account and downloaded the program and tested it.
It seems to work really well.
tried that cab. it wanted to upgrade to newer version. and still had "camera initializing.."
Maybe because I'm running a cooked rom?
AthenaLod said:
no its not! it is for video streaming![/QUOTe
when you use exclamation points you are yelling, i dont appreciate it at all.
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i thought i saw that video calling is supported by new 6.1..
i dont use so i didnt make note and dont care.
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if its streaming from your camera same as video calling is it not?
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actually no
it's just using a camera source. nothing to do with the HTC front camera and tilt missing it. lots of people have qik running on the tilt. I do not yet.
just trying to help
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if its streaming from your camera same as video calling is it not?
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No it is not. Video calling as a native feature of 3G networks, and it's thus handled by the 3G protocol stack. The Tilt having no front cam and not being meant to use video calling, that function was disabled. It can be enabled and the back cam used instead though.
But that has no effect on any other program wanting to open a video device (either back or front one) and do whatever it wants with it like encoding and streaming its feed over the internet.
Try researching a bit before shouting at innocent people...
Re the program, looks good, I might have a try
whos yelling
I use Livecast w/o any problems.
well, i just put it on my tilt and it works fine just that i get a long delay on the live video.
Works "fine" on my tilt... 10-15 second delay though :-(
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I use Livecast w/o any problems.
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I've used Livecast as well but Qik seems to be much better.
I used Livecast at a football (soccer) game that I went to one time.
On my club's forum, people who can't make the game 'cos they're working or they're ex-pats log in and follow/discuss the game online, creating a "match thread".
I posted a link to my Livecast page and gave them snippets of the game.
At one point, my team got a penalty kick, so I was able to quickly start Livecast and let them see the goal (almost) live.
Watching it later the picture was absolutely lamentable though, Qik definitely seems to be a step up from that.
Qik support
hey Guys, thanks for trying the Qik and for the feedback. Actually I'm from Qik team and I want you getting involved in the process of development. I know there are some problems with Kaiser devices. I really want you to provide some debug builds with extended logging to figure out the problem.
If you have any ideas about Qik, things to improve, feature requests please left posts on this thread or contact me directly vovk <[at]> qik.com
Just something that may or may not be relevant to the people who are getting "initializing camera".
I hadn't had this problem but recently I tried to stream some video, realising too late that I was in a bit of a dead spot where I could only get GPRS, not 3G or HSDPA.
I immediately got the "initializing camera" message and it stayed like that until I did a soft reset.
It might (note 'might') be worth checking that you've got a decent 3G signal before opening qik.
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Just something that may or may not be relevant to the people who are getting "initializing camera".
I hadn't had this problem but recently I tried to stream some video, realising too late that I was in a bit of a dead spot where I could only get GPRS, not 3G or HSDPA.
I immediately got the "initializing camera" message and it stayed like that until I did a soft reset.
It might (note 'might') be worth checking that you've got a decent 3G signal before opening qik.
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Alright, ignore the above.
I'm just sitting here, I had a big ol' HSDPA signal and I thought that I'd try qik...............................
"Initializing camera".
Looks as if signal strength isn't necessarily the deciding factor then.
I'll soft reset, I bet it works then.
Edited to say: Yeah, worked fine again after the soft reset.
Hey, this is my 100th post!
I really wish that the quality of the video could be better. I realize that this is probably a problem more with the Tilt and its crappy video/camera drivers than it is with Qik.
This is something I'm really interested in though, I would like to see what some other phones look like but the qik website doesn't seem to tell you which phone recorded what.
Whats happenin'
I am a owner of the new ATT tilt with windows moible 6.1, and new to this site....As I have been searching the web to make my phone browsing experience more optimized I came across this program which I am VERY interested in to say the least.....The problem is that once i install it and open it it works fine.....after I shut it down and re-opened nothing happens, no error message, no nothing....I have spent plenty of time going to thru various websites to try and find a fix for this problem but have saw no answers...I even went to the forum of the creators, http://www.sinbadsearch.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7 ,
but this thread was left unanswered....the last version i saw relased was 0.8.1 which i saw here,
http://sinbadsearch.com/~sinbad/sinbadsearch-0.8.1.cab
, but this still has not worked for me....has anyone seen a update for this program....I am really interested in having the functionality this application bring to my phone but I need your help......Also when I went to thier website to find this program download for my HTC model phone, the tilt wasnt listed, does this mean that it is not supported?
Please help me,
Respectfully,
dcogent1
Sinbad Search
this is crazy....i restarted my phone a couple of times and it seems to be working now...i will keep an eye on it and let anyone who is interested know how the app is working.....no need to reply....thx anyway!!! probably should have tried that in the first place!
I'm leaning pretty strong towards the former, but let me just say I am a *BIG* fan of Android. I bought the ADP1, and gave that to my wife when I switched to T-Mo & bought the MT3G. Both are great devices, and I run cm on them. Overall I have a great experience with these phones & they're super fun & convenient.
But on both devices, both when I had the ADP1 on AT&T and with the MT3G with T-Mo, (where I live I have to roam off of AT&T, so it's using the same towers as before.) all IM apps stink because they cannot stay connected. This is including the built-in gtalk & sms-based IM apps and every other free one on the market that I've tried. IM+, Meebo, eBuddy, Aimer, Hi Aim/Yahoo, imov, Palringo, all fail to keep a session open. I'm almost certain it's something with Android, because it's the same on mobile networks as with wifi, and I've used BlackBerrys on the very same networks & locations and not had this problem. At all.
So what gives? I'm not gonna pay for a chat app, even if that would solve the problem. These apps are free on BlackBerry, and I have a spare BB that I can swap my sim card into if I have to & just use the MT3G as a MID where I have wifi available. I'd love to jump in and try to write a chat app for Android that fixes this problem, but I'm at best a n00b dev & don't know where to begin. If there's someone out there with some guidance on how to get started on that, or if the problem is specific to something with me/my devices, or can explain this so I can understand the problem if not solve it, or any other input at all I'd love to get your feedback.
Maybe it's you or something up with your service
Maybe it's you, something up with your service, or your particular phones. Where my parents live, nothing works but ATT. I've had two BB which I couldn't even receive a signal.
Then when I moved up to the Dash and then to the wing, I received one bar and I could get all of my services to work, even the IM services. When I moved to the G1, two bars.
Now, with the MyTouch, I get three bars and all of my apps which require the network work. IM, text, phone. The blackberry wouldn't even get a signal let alone IM.
So maybe it has something to do with the service and the phone.
wierd thing is, at the very same location & networks, both wap & wifi, i get a completely different result on the mt3g than i do on the bb. there has to be something wrong with the android network stack or how IM apps use it or something.
hopefully i'm not speaking too soon...
... but i may have fixed my problem. i was thinking about how Android puts applications to sleep if it's low on memory, so i changed my userinit.sh script to enable swap. been logged in all afternoon. we'll see how well this continues...
confirmed resolution
enabling swap fixed the problem. apparently Android system tells the chat apps to shut down to free up ram & they can no longer keep their sessions open.
thanks for the hint.
Thought about this a lot but didn't want to try.
Now I'll have to... Thanks
i used to use ebuddy on my htc magic.
and now i use the built in google voice/chat with my milestone.
both have been great for me...especially the latter. I dont even need to log on or anythnig. its just like recieving text messages
Now i have 256 megs of ram size. everything works just fine. more than that. minimal lag on switching apps and tabs(highest so far was 4 seconds)
Hello guiz. I am completely new with how to tweak the innards of my MyTouch.
What is this "swapping" you guys are talking about and how do you activate it?
Does it really help keep the AIM session connected despite being in the background?
I've always knew of the problem that causes AIM to constantly sign off when I try
using it, but never knew how to address the source issue.
Thanks for reply!
hi all couldnt find a post about anything like this but im hoping theres a genius here that can help me, using my samsung galaxy notes wifi hotspot ive been able to do various things like play xbox live games smoothly, allow others to use my signal to download big files/apps to there mobiles while out and about, and ive also got it tethered to my pc right now as i type this out, all goes swimmingly until 2 days ago!!!!
i buy and install the whole dawn of war game inc. all 3 expansions and get them patched ect. i go into the game and click online and sign in as normal, but then when in the matchmaking lobby i cant join any games and everyone times out when trying to join my own. anyone have any ideas on the follwing... (keeping in mind i have manually opened every port i know of,set a static ip, allowed it on my firewall and manage xbox live games just fine)
- whats causing the time out when people try to join me?
- can i fix it with some simple instructions?
- if not can i use a different method of tethering say using a modem tethered to my note?
any and all help would be greatly appreciated, so frusrating when something that should be simple doesnt work for you
Wow, I don't know what carrier you have? But they probably have cut you off. Here in the states , they would throttle you to dial if that much data was accrued!!
It's actually an additional low cost extra to my giffgaff goodybag, which no one can help me use properly lol