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Just a couple of questions as i notice when i was using the MSN
1. Does you PDA slow down to a craw when you launch the Messenger & also while it's running in the background?
2. When setting up Messenger, do you merge Messenger contacts with outlook or not?
3. When you launch Messenger be it on 3G connection or WiFi, how long does it take before it loads your full list of contacts?
4. Is there a way to speed up the Messenger on the TyTN II?
5. What version of Windows Live are you using?
Mine.
1. I can barely use my PDA for anything while Messenger is running. It feels as if it has freeze most of the time
2. I merge my contacts with Outlook
3. It takes mine a good 7 - 10 minutes before it loads up my Messenger list which is only about 120 contacts
4. Would love some advice here
5. Version 10.6.0033.0600
Appreciate any advice as i use Messenger a lot. Thank you and Merry Christmas

I don't really now all that but for me I love windows live... I wish the GPS worked a little better though... So many times it cannot find a signal. In anyevent...
The real question is what do you all feel is better Google live or windows live?

christian15213 said:
I don't really now all that but for me I love windows live... I wish the GPS worked a little better though... So many times it cannot find a signal. In anyevent...
The real question is what do you all feel is better Google live or windows live?
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people!! There are 2 very different Windows Live/Live Search apps. Can we please start getting this straight?
I know MS made some idiotic branding/naming decisions, but I feel like if you own WinMo phone you should have it figured out by now.
The questions refer to Windows Live, NOT Live Search.
1.) No. Messenger does not bring my phone to crawl, although I rarely stay connected long because Windows Live + Kaiser Connection Issues = major suck fest (just search my past post for more info)
2.) No I do not merge Outlook contacts. I keep Live for all personal contacts and Exchange server for business. Works out really great.
3.) To connect to Messenger and see buddy list (about 105 contacts) over 3G takes approximately 1 minute.
4.) Have you tried Kaiser Tweak app for changing File System and Glyph settings? These tend to improve overall device performance and work well for me.
5.) I have used them all and recently downgraded to 10.6.32.2100.
I have to admit I do not use the Messenger portion much. My main complaint has been not getting Push mail to work correctly. Had NO issues with WL on my Hermes. I submitted a report to MS and they are supposedly "working on it"

Well...if that is the case, my Messenger is confirm not working the way it's suppose to. I actually though it was normal cos i had the same problem on my Hermes.
Care to give me the settings in the KaiserTweak file system thing that u r using.
1 more question....can i just download & install a older or newer version & have the current version overwrite?

1. i cant tell its running - but my contacts list is quite small - see 2.
2. i initially merged but got peeved off as all my msn contacts got mixed up with my real life contacts which made finding phone number laborious - so i reset it all only to find that doing so wiped my messenger contact list - entirely - no more contacts - not even on my main pc! so now i dont merge.
3. cant say on these two, havent really ever connected via them - on gprs though it takes about 6 seconds ish - but again my contacts list is short.
4. probably not
5. Version 10.6.0033.0600
my pet peev is the windows live home screen plugin - its far too large

Scann69 said:
Well...if that is the case, my Messenger is confirm not working the way it's suppose to. I actually though it was normal cos i had the same problem on my Hermes.
Care to give me the settings in the KaiserTweak file system thing that u r using.
1 more question....can i just download & install a older or newer version & have the current version overwrite?
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In Kaiser Tweak, under Cache. I am using all the (Advised) Settings. However I don't think that will help your problem much. Do a lot of your contacts have a custom display picture? When I contatced MS about my problem with emails they told me to change my display pic to a default as custom pics have been known to cause issues. If a lot of people on your buddy list have custom pics, that could be causing the delay.
Also, do not install WL over a previous version. First uninstall it from your device and soft reset. Then install the older version.
Let us know if you find something to fix the issue.

fusi said:
1. i cant tell its running - but my contacts list is quite small - see 2.
2. i initially merged but got peeved off as all my msn contacts got mixed up with my real life contacts which made finding phone number laborious - so i reset it all only to find that doing so wiped my messenger contact list - entirely - no more contacts - not even on my main pc! so now i dont merge.
3. cant say on these two, havent really ever connected via them - on gprs though it takes about 6 seconds ish - but again my contacts list is short.
4. probably not
5. Version 10.6.0033.0600
my pet peev is the windows live home screen plugin - its far too large
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In case u hit problem number 2 again, u can actually log into MSN on your desktop, then click on Tools->Options->Privacy then click on View. From there, just right click on the names on the list and add to contacts

njmarchetti said:
In Kaiser Tweak, under Cache. I am using all the (Advised) Settings. However I don't think that will help your problem much. Do a lot of your contacts have a custom display picture? When I contatced MS about my problem with emails they told me to change my display pic to a default as custom pics have been known to cause issues. If a lot of people on your buddy list have custom pics, that could be causing the delay.
Also, do not install WL over a previous version. First uninstall it from your device and soft reset. Then install the older version.
Let us know if you find something to fix the issue.
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Thanx for the info. Sadly most of my contacts have their own custom pictures which might explain the slow loading of my MSN.
This still does not explain why when MSN is running, my TyTN II is crawling to the extend many time i just reset it and stop using the MSN
Well....guess now i have another problem....my MSN is in the ROM itself. I'm using Dutty's No.7B ROM. Any ideas?

Hi,I have 10.6.0031.2600 version and it doesn't work too.I send a mail to http://support.live.com and they answer me that i must verify proxy connections.So i don't know why because it worked before ...

Finally....when setting up MSN, do not "Store & Merge contacts with Outlook". This has made my MSN run like normal again. Now it's fast Thanks guys for the tips & advice. Problem solved.

AIM for WinMo

I'm looking for a lightwieght AIM client for WinMo. I have tried installing Agile Mobile but it wouldn't install. I would use the one that came in the ROM by default by ATT but it lowers your txt msgs with every IM you send. I'm looking for a free solution. When I had my iPhone I was able to use Mobile Meebo and/or iphone.beejive.com but none of these work on the kasier.
Which one do you all use? Much thanks.

Here you go, this one is my favorite. It was updated in 2000 but it's honestly the best AIM app I've found.
AIM Download

I use Slick.

dylanc430 said:
I'm looking for a lightwieght AIM client for WinMo. I have tried installing Agile Mobile but it wouldn't install. I would use the one that came in the ROM by default by ATT but it lowers your txt msgs with every IM you send. I'm looking for a free solution. When I had my iPhone I was able to use Mobile Meebo and/or iphone.beejive.com but none of these work on the kasier.
Which one do you all use? Much thanks.
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i agree with the poster above me, use slick, it updates on occasion and is fairly simple to use.
Here i've attached the file. you need to update once you install it so don't be discouraged.

Seeing as you used Jive Talk in the past, you should try the WM6 alpha.
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/

outphase said:
Seeing as you used Jive Talk in the past, you should try the WM6 alpha.
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/
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Hrmm..I just installed this app. And the overall look of it seems nicer than slick. Thanks ouphase.

I assume that both Slick and the new Beejive use my phone's data plan so I won't be charged a text message for every IM sent, correct?

dylanc430 said:
I assume that both Slick and the new Beejive use my phone's data plan so I won't be charged a text message for every IM sent, correct?
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Correct (completing 10 char limit)

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Correct (completing 10 char limit)
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what if i dont have a data plan?
be/c i got no data plan at all. i just use wifi.

Palringo works nicely and on multiple networks. I use it for AIM, MSN, and Yahoo.

i've been using palringo as well...i like that it integrates google chat at well, and the FINALLY updated it about a month ago where you can continue to have multiple chats open rather than closing a chat w/ 1 person, to open up a chat w/ another.
but i'm always looking for something newer and better...

i'm really diggin the layout and the chat history function of slick...but i tried to get jivetalk up and running, the cab that i'm downloading from their website isn't opening up on my phone properly...anybody having problems w/ the program as well?

I've had Palringo for a while now and just installed BeeJive. Palringo uses less memory, connect faster, plain and simple. Plus if you have MSN or HOTMAIL contacts on your yahoo buddy list they show up in Palringo unlike BeeJive. Beejive is more appealing with alot of neat and promising features butof course uses more memory. I like BeeJive more because it's got a feel to it plus it has alot of option to mees around with.
I'm sticking with both of them for now, and will run either one depending on my mood

anyone having problems installing jive talk too? i just did a hardreset on my phone and it still isn't working out. i'm sure it doesn't make a difference but i'm running qmobile 1.2 and its keeps pulling this error after i try to run it after a "successful" installation to the device. "
System.TypeLoad Exception
Unexpected Error:
Type LoadException at
Beejive.Jivetalk.view.buddylistcontroller.buildmenu()at....
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and continues on and on with a message caption that takes up the entire window. any ideas?

i have a couple mac fag buddies, they use iphone, and ichat for pc, any of these apps work w/ ichat? From what i hear you only need aim not sure if thats true (plus id love to NOT use aohell for anything)

iChat either uses .Mac or AIM to chat. Find out if they use AIM.

simbadogg said:
anyone having problems installing jive talk too? i just did a hardreset on my phone and it still isn't working out. i'm sure it doesn't make a difference but i'm running qmobile 1.2 and its keeps pulling this error after i try to run it after a "successful" installation to the device. "
and continues on and on with a message caption that takes up the entire window. any ideas?
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I get this same error on my 8125 running the latest (213) TNT ROM.

URL Links
Does either Slick or Plaringo convert http links in messages to clickable URLs?

palringo does, slick does as well...the real stinky thing about slick is you can't just copy text from conversations...which i do a lot. Sometimes i like to just copy convos etc, palringo is nice because whenever someone sends you a link, whether it be a picture of a youtube, or website or w/e...it'll say "open in browser" or "copy to clipboard". slick you can kind of do the same thing, but it takes a hell of a lot longer

simbadogg said:
anyone having problems installing jive talk too? i just did a hardreset on my phone and it still isn't working out. i'm sure it doesn't make a difference but i'm running qmobile 1.2 and its keeps pulling this error after i try to run it after a "successful" installation to the device. "
System.TypeLoad Exception
Unexpected Error:
Type LoadException at
Beejive.Jivetalk.view.buddylistcontroller.buildmen u()at....
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and continues on and on with a message caption that takes up the entire window. any ideas?
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I get the same message....
I have seen this question asked multiple times in numerous threads with no answers...rather than start a new thread, i figured if bring this thread back and hopefully someone could answer this question? thanks

AOL AIM!!

Can someone find a new AOL AIM for the G1 please. Mine runs slow, connection gets lost, and lags. Any ideas? Im hoping Google comes out with something like Beejive AIM like the iPhone...flawless!

aim sucks, yahoo baby!!!!!!!
hottniccs5 said:
Can someone find a new AOL AIM for the G1 please. Mine runs slow, connection gets lost, and lags. Any ideas? Im hoping Google comes out with something like Beejive AIM like the iPhone...flawless!
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I'm holding out for Palringo. An Android version is supposedly in the works.

yea they have meebo, which 'works' but its not designed to run continuously in the BG plus other than listing s/ns and allowing messaging it doesnt do a damn thing.
- can't remember s/ns
- doesn't display nicknames
- can't add delete or modify buddies
- can't view aways and the like
- amongst other DUH things.

beartard said:
I'm holding out for Palringo. An Android version is supposedly in the works.
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Me to... hope it happns soon !!!!

hmm AOL has released AIM for Windows Mobile so maybe we'll see it on Android next.

Android on pc popup

Alright this app doesn't exist but I'm encouraging it to be supported and developed.
So today I was browsing on my new notebook and my phone went off, it was only a notification text message but I was feeling polite and so I got my phone and looked and saw what it was.
I've seen apps that can view the pc from the g1, but I want to view my g1 from my p.c. Not just a notification bar or some small poorly done UI. But a full on good looking desktop view of my g1 to where I can dismiss, reply, and explore my g1.
Way of doing this: USB, Wifi, Bluetooth etc.
Get it?
:]
Hope so.
So if this could be developed I'd appreciate it and I know a lot of other people would too.

Sorry this response isn't *particularly* helpful, but I will add that this is definitely possible on Windows mobile, albeit via a paid-for app. It definitely worked over USB and may have worked over wifi/bluetooth too, can't remember. However, even over bluetooth, the display updating was slightly laggy. Sorry but I can't remember the name of the WM app.
Best of luck.

richardkemp said:
Sorry this response isn't *particularly* helpful, but I will add that this is definitely possible on Windows mobile, albeit via a paid-for app. It definitely worked over USB and may have worked over wifi/bluetooth too, can't remember. However, even over bluetooth, the display updating was slightly laggy. Sorry but I can't remember the name of the WM app.
Best of luck.
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there is an app on the market that allows u to open a file explorer into you android device if that is what you mean

Icebergxx said:
Alright this app doesn't exist but I'm encouraging it to be supported and developed.
So today I was browsing on my new notebook and my phone went off, it was only a notification text message but I was feeling polite and so I got my phone and looked and saw what it was.
I've seen apps that can view the pc from the g1, but I want to view my g1 from my p.c. Not just a notification bar or some small poorly done UI. But a full on good looking desktop view of my g1 to where I can dismiss, reply, and explore my g1.
Way of doing this: USB, Wifi, Bluetooth etc.
Get it?
:]
Hope so.
So if this could be developed I'd appreciate it and I know a lot of other people would too.
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I don't think that it would be so hard to develop such a program for pc because you can already pull up a screenshot using ddms.bat of your g1. We can also already control (limited... but capable) the g1 with adb. So if a user interface could be created to access your g1 live from your computer, I think that would be ideal. It would be sort of like using the emulator, but it would be your phone and in real time. Good idea indeed. Too bad that I don't know anything about programming.

Android specific apps

Will only specific apps run on android? Its just my mate wants to get Freecaddie on his Hero, and I have it on my Touch HD. I have checked on the website but not sure whether to try and put the winmo cab on and run that or will it mess the phone up... any help greatly appreciated..

I'm not a programmer so I could be completely wrong, but I don't think that will work. That's like trying to run a Windows program on a Linux machine - unless the developers specifically made a Linux version it just won't work. Probably the best thing for your friend to do is look around on the market for that application or a similar one.
(And before a Linux defender comes to correct me - yes, I know you can get windows emulators that run in Linux, but I'm not aware of those existing for phones.)

Ia m may get flamed here, but i am sure , a windows moblie app will not run on a linux based os, unless some one has made W.I.N.E (linux geeks like myself will understand) for andriod then No sorry !!

Steven__ said:
That's like trying to run a Windows program on a Linux machine
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Not just like, that's exactly the case here

@Milesjasjar
It won't work. As another poster mentioned though, search the market. I've found apps to do most things (apart from a really good calendar app!!!)
P.S. Good luck for Saturday, hope the Saints do it. It's about time.

martint235 said:
I've found apps to do most things (apart from a really good calendar app!!!)
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If what you don't like with the HTC calendar is that it displays all events on the monthly view in exactly the same way, you can try the Pure Calendar widgets (dev's website here). The 'Grid' one displays a coloured bar at the top of each day in a monthly view, its length representing how long the appointment is and the colour which calendar it's part of. It loads data from Outlook and Google calendars without trouble. The dev also makes an agenda style widget, but I haven't used it. Unfortunately you have to pay about £1 for either.

Hi,
Thanks I'm already using Pure Calendar and have the Grid too. I agree it's the best available at the mo but having just moved over from WinMo I'm waiting for someone to release a major app like Pocket Informant. Unfortunately developers seem wary as they are not sure people will be willing to pay £20 for an Android app (although I would be if it's good enough!)
M

Cheers for the responses guys.. at least I know what to expect when i get my own hero... I keep looking but still not ready to make the jump, guess I am far to comfortable with the Winmo UI. But the gap is closing on the usability.. as long as i can import everything from outlook, and find a free golf program then i might make the jump sooner..