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itunes aac files - how do I play them?

I have some education audio clips I downloaded from an Emergency Medicine website that I want to play on my Tilt.
I tried using TCPMP 0.71RC but says I don't have the AAC codec. I did some searching around this forum and there was mention that version 0.81 has the codec I need but is grossly slower.
SO, what is the standard everyone uses around here for itunes/aac file playing around here?
Thanks!

Mmmm.. maybe this one?
h0mersimps0n said:
I have some education audio clips I downloaded from an Emergency Medicine website that I want to play on my Tilt.
I tried using TCPMP 0.71RC but says I don't have the AAC codec. I did some searching around this forum and there was mention that version 0.81 has the codec I need but is grossly slower.
SO, what is the standard everyone uses around here for itunes/aac file playing around here?
Thanks!
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thanks that worked... now I just have to get this damn playlist thing figured out

I recommend PocketMusic v5.0. It costs a few bucks, but I think it's worth it... Has support for AAC, OGG etc..

Yes.... I use it as well
mape78 said:
I recommend PocketMusic v5.0. It costs a few bucks, but I think it's worth it... Has support for AAC, OGG etc..
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iTunes stuff on Tilt w/WMMP
This may help some of you trying to use playlists you've created in iTunes that you want to be able to use to play aac files with Windows Mobile Media Player on your Tilt. It took me a long time to get this figured out; hopefully I can save you some.
I have roughly 120gb of music files in iTunes, all of which are aac formatted. I don't want to mess around with converting any of them to another format (and be creating dupe files) so that WMP can see and play them, which is a necessary step if you want any sync capability with your Tilt - without drag copying the files and then having to manually create playlists a song at a time. The playlist thing is the key though. Many of us have spent HOURS developing playlists in iTunes only to be stymied when trying to use them on a ppc (or a Treo like my old 650 for that matter running Pocket Tunes).
Thanks largely to the excellent support people at NormSoft (makers of Pocket Tunes, which is a great, great app), here's the solution I've cobbled together. First, get this: http://www.3ivx.com/download/ - you can try it for free, but the version you need beyond that is less than $10. Install it on your pc. Now open WMP and tell it to add your iTunes folder to the library. You should start to see all your aac files show up - not necessarily with album art and all the tags, but that's another, less important issue, at least to me. You also won't be able to do this with protected (drm) files.
Now dload Playlist Creator from here: http://www.oddgravity.de/ and open it after installing it. Open iTunes. Select a playlist in iTunes. Select all the tunes in that playlist and drag them over onto the Playlist Creator window which will populate it. Tell Playlist Creator where to put the playlist(s) you're about to create (you can create a new folder I think) - I made one I call "My Generated Playlists". Give the playlist a name and make sure you save it as a m3u playlist (not pls.). Click the "Create Playlist" button. Go back to WMP and tell it to add your generated playlists folder to the library. Now it'll show up as a playlist in WMP that you can select and play tunes from. Connect your Tilt. Drag the playlist to the Sync List sidebar. Hit the start sync button. Voila. The songs AND the playlist(s) are now on your Tilt. I haven't done this with huge playlists yet, just 20 song or so ones right to the Tilt's memory (not an expansion card - I'm waiting for delivery of one), but it seems to work.
Hope I got this all right and it works for you too. Enjoy.

The zip file in post 2 worked a treat on my old XDA II. Thanks Laurentius26!

Audio and Browser Questions

Please be patient, I am new to HTC and WM6 and I'm hoping to get some recommendations
I have about 4GB of music on my micro SD that I copied off my iPod, so it's in acc format which the audio manager doesn't recognize. I downloaded TCPMP and the acc plugin and it plays the music but its doesn't show the song info (title, artist etc) till you open the song.
Also you can't search by artist, or genre like you can in audio manager
Can anyone recommend a good audio player or someway to get audio manager to recognize acc files
I really prefer opera mini over IE but I have to go into the java app first to select it, is there anyway to get an opera shortcut onto the start screen
I really appreciate any advice or tips for the newbie questions

Opera Mobile is designed for smartphones and should give you a regular icon to load it with, mini is made primarily for regular phones with only their crappy build in browsers which is why it works only in java.
iTunes music is the most annoying on planet earth. You can convert it to mp3 or delete the DMA off of it to allow it to play properly but its time consuming and annoying. I dont know of any plugin for Audio Manager that will allow you to play the iTunes music, only what other people have created for other players.
Now if these songs were once full on mp3's or cd's that you copied into iTunes you would be better off copying / ripping those files over to the sd card.

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Now if these songs were once full on mp3's or cd's that you copied into iTunes you would be better off copying / ripping those files over to the sd card.
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Yeah most of it is CD rips, I was hoping to avoid having to rip them again

When you initially ripped them did you tell iTunes to connect to the net and pull the information and creat an id3 tag for it? If not then thats why none of the track info is pulling over. iTunes will read the title / cd / artist name off the disct but when you use them as mp3's or in other players I have heard of some issues with the information not being read properly...
All my music is in mp3, ogg, FLAC and other formats on my computer, if my wife wants anything she pulls it over. She has bought some things off iTunes but they are such a pain to use elsewhere that eh.

You should have set ITunes to only rip to MP3 for compatibility reasons such as this. I'm not too sure what/if anything can read aac files on Windows Mobile. I know their is a way to get Opera Mini's icon as well as a way to have it function as your default browser (that is clicking on hyperlinks in e-mails, sms, ect) bring you to Opera Mini. There's quite a lot of info on that if you search.
As far as Opera Mobile, yea it may be designed for Smartphone, and yea it may be better than IE, but it does not in anyway compete with Opera Mini in terms of speed and website rendering.

Audiobooks?

I listen to a lot of audiobooks during my work commute and used to use my iPod for this. Since I have a decent sized memory card in my X1, I'd rather use it instead so I only need one device with me. The problem is that all of my audiobooks are in .m4b format, so I need something that runs on WinMo that can:
1. Play this .m4b format (I think it's just AAC)
2. Bookmark where I am in each book so if I close and re-open the player, the book continues from where I left off
3. Allows fine tuned rewind/fast forward as I often rewind 5-30 seconds to hear some part of a book a second time
I've found tcpmp/core player can play .m4b's, but it's not great at bookmarking. That is, if I'm listening to a book, close the player and re-open it, the bookmark works fine and it continues to play where I left off. However, if I open any other file in between, the bookmark is lost. This is made worse by the inability to do any fine tuned rewind/fast forward. The only option is to use the progress slider, which tends to jump in VERY large increments.
Any suggestions? Is there another audiobook format I should try which would work better?

Convert to MP3 then use something like:
http://motorola-windows-mobile.hand...id=1093&for=Motorola+Windows+Mobile audiobook
Unfortunately m4b is a gash Apple format and so needs to be converted...

You could also try Kinoma (www.kinoma.com). Not sure if it plays .mb4, I use it for books from audible.

I personally just use the standard windows media player, I also listen to alot of audiobooks usually a few hours a day and when I get to and from work I use the notes program to make a note of where I am. This isn't necessery all the time because I can just minimize windows media player and then start it back up when I want to carry on listening (the program doesn't fully close when pressing x)
I have never used an audiobook on an ipod so im not sure what type of support it has though it would be nice to have the feature but it isn't something I really need, it's easy to do without.

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I use CorePalayer for my audio books.
http://www.coreplayer.com/

Resco Audio Recorder allows you to bookmark MP3 files at specific points (Store lots of bookmarks for various MP3's), it's also got a finger friendly fast forward/rewind.
According to the website it plays the following files
MP3 — The most popular audio format ever. Widely supported by all platforms. Ideal trade off between quality and hardware requirements.
Ogg Vorbis — Alternative to MP3 with higher quality, but requires faster PDA.
Speex — Outstanding speech compression ratio, but also needs fast device.
WAV — Lossless quality, low hardware requirements, but huge memory consumption.
RAF — Minimal hardware requirements, minimal energy consumption, compresstion ratio 4:1.
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It also can do standard voice recording and phone call recording
Edit: Just looked on their site. They have a Codec pack addon that allows recording/playing of AAC files
Second Edit: They also have a seven day demo (I'm assuming you can add the demo of the codec pack as well) So that you can test it to see if you like the software

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Resco Audio Recorder allows you to bookmark MP3 files at specific points (Store lots of bookmarks for various MP3's), it's also got a finger friendly fast forward/rewind.
According to the website it plays the following files
It also can do standard voice recording and phone call recording
Edit: Just looked on their site. They have a Codec pack addon that allows recording/playing of AAC files
Second Edit: They also have a seven day demo (I'm assuming you can add the demo of the codec pack as well) So that you can test it to see if you like the software
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Ooooh, now this is what I was looking for. The bookmarking feature works very well for my audiobooks and the touch friendly controls are exactly what I was looking for. It doesn't seem to like the m4b files, even with the AAC codec, but I can easily convert my m4b's to mp3's and everything works wonderfully.
Thanks!

Or have a look at MortPlayer.
With favorites (easy navigation through your music/audiobook folders), special audio book support (auto bookmarks for audio book files/folders, auto rewind when continuing, ...), bookmarks, finger friendly since the first beta (somewhere in 2004, iirc), skin support (including WVGA since 3.31b73), ...
However, the AAC/MP4 plugin from GSPlayer (included in beta installers) doesn't work properly on all devices, and I'm not sure whether m4b is included...

Hey, I found out, that Audiooboks in the m4B Format can't be handled by the Mort Player.
BUT
If you rename the file from m4b to m4a the player can handle them.
Cheers
Jens

I was very excited to try this as I have a number of .m4b audiobooks I would like to listen to on the Android. But I just tried renaming an .m4b file to an .m4a file on my Android G1 and it still did not play I have been using the Ambling BookPlayer which works well with mp3, oog, or m4a files, but renaming the m4b to m4a didn't work.
The Ambling BookPlayer has worked very well for playing audiobooks even those that have a lot of individual audio files, and it has a bookmarking history with undo and redo so you can jump right back to each place you started or stopped listening. The Ambling BookPlayer Lite is free on the Android Market and it supports automatically downloading the free LibriVox audiobooks directly to the Android.
I would be interested in knowing if anyone else been able to successfully play an m4b file after renaming it to an m4a? and if so which Android phone does it work on?

I found that there is a request for Google to add support for the m4b format to the Android at http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3923 You can boost the priority of this request by going to the page and clicking on the star to cast your vote in favor of adding this feature.

Audiobooks from iTunes in M4B are encrypted. Simply renaming the files from .m4b to .m4a will not help. You need to decrypt the files first. Google for Requiem.

The m4b format does support encryption. Some m4b audio files are encrypted but others are not.
If you get one of the conversion programs (there are many available) that will convert mp3 files into m4b files, the resulting m4b files are not encrypted. Other m4b files, such as those sold by some stores, are encrypted.
If you purchase an audiobook on CD, rip it to mp3s, combine them and convert them to an m4b (just for the purpose of getting bookmarking to keep track of your place in the audiobook), the resulting m4b file is not encrypted.

new player app
Here is a new Android app Akimbo Audiobook Player that has m4b support with chapters and artwork. Finally I have got back to where I was years ago on the ipod

M3U Streaming & Android & Nexus One

First off, would like to say thanks to all the great people here who have helped me over the years in unlocking, modding, theme-ing and generally hacking my various phones... I have never felt the need to start a thread as I could always find the answer somewhere in here - but this one has me stumped.
Since purchasing my NexusOne (running CM5.0.6), I have been searching for an app to replace Pocket Music Player that I used to use on my WinMo phone. Basically what it was able to do is read m3u files that had URLs instead of local file names. I think I have tried every Android media playing app and they are unable to read the file (except for one) - they actually delete the file from the SDCard after trying to play it! DroidLive was the only app I could find that would load and play the file, but provides no way to view the playlist, skip tracks or read any of the metadata (because I think it assumes its a live stream).
Why is this is important? I am currently running an apache webserver on my D-Link DNS-323 along with a bit of code called musicbrowser (open source project) that allows browsing, streaming (flash based), playlist creation & downloading of music on my home network. Basically, you navigate to the tracks you want, hit stream and it sends you an m3u file with the URLs of the tracks you queued. That way I always have access to whatever tracks I have recently purchased (not to mention the fact that I have ~ 200 GB of music, and some days still can't find something I'm in the mood for).
And just so people know, I have tried every alternative out there - orb (buggy as all hell, server crashes frequently), subsonic (the android app doesn't actually stream - it just downloads the entire playlist to your SDCard), & tonido (unstable as per orb). I was very happy with the way musicbrowser was working on WinMo and just want to get back there with Android.
And so... does anyone know of an app that will properly play M3U files with URLs in them?
(Sorry about the long-ish post, but I wanted to make sure people understood what I was asking for.)

Not sure if it will suit your needs but give steamfurious a shot

m3u Player
Can window media player play .m3u file as a online radio
Is any other software can play .m3u file for window mobile 6.5

Try http://www.gmote.org/faq for "Gmote".
In the FAQ it says:
Are music playlists supported?
Yes. Currently, the M3U format is supported. If your playlists are in a different format, it's possible to convert them to the M3U format. Try Googling something like "WPL to M3U". Also, please let us know what your favorite playlist type is so that we may add it to future versions.
Also, when you select a single song to play, all other songs in that directory will be queued and played after the selected song.

With froyo we get native support for music streaming but I have yet to see any details about the formats supported.

Streamfurious is a no go. Tried it, but thanks for the suggestion.
I'm not exactly sure what the WinMo question was getting at, but no - WMP would not play them but just about every other player did - Core, Pocket Music, Mort...
GMote is an app that controls a local source from a network location & and what I am looking for is to play networked music via a local source.
Perhaps I will just have to wait for 2.2 and hope that solves my problem.
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You could try Subsonic to stream your music. I tried it a few weeks ago, and it worked. Not as user friendly as most to set up, but it looks like you could handle it easily.

I have tried subsonic and while it claims to stream, all the android app does is download everything to the device (ie. it was trying to download my entire music collection OTA - not good for my data plan.)
I just flashed froyo to my device and while I am overall thrilled with it, I am unimpressed that the streaming m3u issue is still there...
Still looking for a solution if anyone finds one! Thanks for all the input thus far.

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I have tried subsonic and while it claims to stream, all the android app does is download everything to the device (ie. it was trying to download my entire music collection OTA - not good for my data plan.)
I just flashed froyo to my device and while I am overall thrilled with it, I am unimpressed that the streaming m3u issue is still there...
Still looking for a solution if anyone finds one! Thanks for all the input thus far.
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I've written and published a program called "Just Playlists" which reads M3U files and uses them to directly locate music files on the SD card via file paths. I'm close to releasing a new version that will also stream music pointed to by URL's within the M3U (or PLS) playlists. I added this feature to allow for playing SHOUTcast/ICEcast streams, but it will also play remote audio files. This may help you out. The only caveat is that I don't get ID3 tag information from the streamed files and I re-connect to the server for each URL, so the gap between tracks may be a bit large.
Another issue you mention is that your M3U files are being deleted by Android. I can explain this one. When Android scans your SD card for media files, it reads the M3U files it finds and, if it can't find any tracks on your SD card corresponding to the file paths in an M3U file, it assumes the file is effectively empty and deletes it. To stop this from happening, place an empty file named ".nomedia" in the directory containing your M3U files. The media scanner will no longer touch this directory or any below it. The new version of "Just Playlists" has an option to create/delete these files, as well.
I hope to have the new version of my program released within a few days.

That sounds awesome! I look forward to release of your app!
I must say this has been most frustrating as this functionality is something I used my phone for the most (even more than the phone part!) and look forward to getting back to it.
Cheers,
H
EDIT: Just noticed your post was more than a few days old and you have released the new version! I am grabbing it now and will report back.

Just Playlists!
THANK YOU! I am literally almost in tears right now. I was so frustrated that I could not stream from archive.org (I bought a bluetooth receiver in my car specifically to be able to stream music in my car from my phone to the speakers). This has made my day. I will be donating after i give it a trial run. THANK YOU!

Try "A Online Radio." I like it better than streamfurious. Really, my only complaint is that it doesn't play WMA streams. I would KILL for a streaming audio program that did.

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THANK YOU! I am literally almost in tears right now. I was so frustrated that I could not stream from archive.org (I bought a bluetooth receiver in my car specifically to be able to stream music in my car from my phone to the speakers). This has made my day. I will be donating after i give it a trial run. THANK YOU!
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I'm really glad to hear JP is working out for you! Let me know if you run into any bugs or quirks. Streaming under Android seems to be a bit flaky, so I'm working to make JP's streaming more reliable, or, at the very least, to recover from streaming dropouts in as many cases as possible.

HooKy said:
I have tried subsonic and while it claims to stream, all the android app does is download everything to the device (ie. it was trying to download my entire music collection OTA - not good for my data plan.)
I just flashed froyo to my device and while I am overall thrilled with it, I am unimpressed that the streaming m3u issue is still there...
Still looking for a solution if anyone finds one! Thanks for all the input thus far.
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Subsonic doesn't download your entire collection, it creates a database of your entire collection so you know what you have and what you don't.

reviving this thread xD
xiia plays m3u files can stream dnb radio now yay

alankstiyo said:
reviving this thread xD
xiia plays m3u files can stream dnb radio now yay
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not sure if this is relevant but sound cloud has awesome dub and dnb
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has anyone found a working soultion for this yet? I have a set of m3u and pls files which are saved URL's of online radio stations, some from shoutcast, some from other sources that on Windows Mobile I used GS Player to listen to
Just Playlists seems to come the closest out of any apps I've tried to working but either gives me an unexpected error message when trying to open the file or it looks like it has opened it but I get no playback.
I've tried StremFurious, VLC S&C and I think one or two others but no luck yet, curious if others have a solution
thanks!

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reviving this thread xD
xiia plays m3u files can stream dnb radio now yay
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Just installed XiiaLive Lite from the Market (free) It works very well and has a really nice interface. Thanks for pointing it out.

Streaming works but...
Hey streaming works well with Just Playlist but I was hoping to find music player which shows me the content of the playlist.m3u and you can pick from there the song you wanna play... I got my music on NAS but I can access NAS from 3G also and would love to stream my music on the road to my phone... Any ideas for this? I can access the files via http or ftp/sftp... Also if anybody knows good php based media library script with account managment, please tell me (with mobile-layout would be awesome)

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Hey streaming works well with Just Playlist but I was hoping to find music player which shows me the content of the playlist.m3u and you can pick from there the song you wanna play... I got my music on NAS but I can access NAS from 3G also and would love to stream my music on the road to my phone... Any ideas for this? I can access the files via http or ftp/sftp... Also if anybody knows good php based media library script with account managment, please tell me (with mobile-layout would be awesome)
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try Mediastork.com (open source)
it is all custom and can be modded. it also automatically generates playlists of your mp3 folders

Media Manager for Android - They all Suck

So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems

What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done

I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!

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What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
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I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.

Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.

jim.pulliam said:
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!