I have noticed the following time related problem with my AT&T tilt. Yesterday, it was showing incorrect system time: approximately 2 hours 20 min off. I then synchronized it with my PC via active sync. Today it was 5 min off (compared to the same PC), which is too much for one day. I have searched the Internet to see if anybody has experienced a similar problem and could find only that similar things happen when you “lock” the phone – which I don’t do.
Does anyone know why this might happen and how to fix it? I am not sure if it is a software or a hardware problem, as I have installed some software on the phone.
Also, I was thinking to find a program that would run in the background and once in a while, say every 4 hours, would automatically sync time with the network time (I’d rather not use programs that sync time via internet) – could somebody provide a link to something like that?
i noticed the same thing. maybe its a problem with the network because don't these phones sync times to att? anyway i just changed it and it syncs with the time on my comp.
jdmspecdc5 said:
i noticed the same thing. maybe its a problem with the network because don't these phones sync times to att? anyway i just changed it and it syncs with the time on my comp.
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I have the same problem. What did you change? My TyTN II displays the wrong time, is there a setting to have the clock synched by GPS? Thanks!
There is an option in the Phone setting to sync the time from network, that fixes the whole problem of moving betweeen time zones and everything. Keeps my time accurate.
TimeSaver said:
There is an option in the Phone setting to sync the time from network, that fixes the whole problem of moving betweeen time zones and everything. Keeps my time accurate.
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Thanks! That's the setting I had to DISABLE to keep my time accurate. The time on the network I'm on is off by 7 minutes, and that was driving me crazy.
weird thing happened to me today. the time at the top randomly changed from digital to analog! now i cant figure out how to change it back. i did a soft reset but it stayed the same. how do i change it back to the digital display? thanks.
edit: figured it out
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My bro and I both bought the above units and have upgraded to the GPS rom. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed the unit switches on by itself. We are both experiencing this problem but also have the same programs running. The button lock feature is set on.
That's right. My Trinity is alive, too ;-)
I'm using the dopod rom about one week and I noticed that today for the first time.
There's no application running in the background. It's still alive ;-)
I do not care about this problem.
Hi,
Any software you are running?
Best regards,
Gilbert
Today programs are as follows:
cLaunch
Today Agenda
Battery Pack / Program Bar
PPCProfiles
I will try and eliminate one by one to see if it is software related.
Anyone else using one of the programs and having the unit switch on by itself. This issue bothers me as I see its going to be a drain on the battery.
Activesync may be the culprit
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.
Camstech said:
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.
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Hey Camstech, could you please give me a detailed description of how to set this up?
Thanks
My phone seems to do this too, but from what I can see, it is because of bad 3G coverage and the phone has to roam to GSM and back. Only happens at work where I got bad coverage (2/4).
AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.
Looking Glass said:
AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.
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I would have to agree to a point, as I have noticed when PPCProfiles changes automatically to my car mode (bluetooth on) the pda turns on. So you are right that it's programs possibly turning it on but this never happened on my O2 mini (WM2003SE). I'm hoping a new ROM may fix this issue.
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.
saminegm said:
Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.
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You can find the program link below. I never had any issues when using this program on my O2 mini. It still works on my dopod d810 just that I have disabled the auto switch template.
ps the chrome template is the nicest
http://www.modaco.com/Latest_Version-t205779.html
Correction to my thinking it was PPC profiles. It is actually happening when the bletooth is turned on ( hence ppc profiles switching over to car mode - bluetooth). I disabled ppc profiles and turned on bluetooth and strangely enough the dopod kept turning on.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem when they have bluetooth on?
frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Mine sometimes turns itself on when it automatically checks my email accounts, but not always. I wonder if it isn't the 3G/Edge switch that is explained earlier. My house is in a 3G fringe area. I believe it doesn't try and wake itself up when the Wifi is on. My Prophet never did this, it would only wake up for an alarm, call, or SMS.
The main issues are reduced battery life and if you have your phone in your pocket and it wakes up, buttons can be accidentally pressed before it goes back to sleep.
I am running the stock AT&T Tilt, without any of the bloatware (having hit soft reset and aborting the installation of the extra CABS).
While I didn't think we needed to run the Microsoft DST fix, I found that phone is not reporting the correct time vis-a-vis OggSync, as I try to sync with my google calendar.
When I applied the DST fix, and then did the additional steps - go into Clock, set to a DIFFERENT time zone, close out of Clock, say OK to knowing that it will change appt times, etc. Returning to today screen. Giving the system a moment to adjust to new time zone. Go back into Clock, set to CORRECT time zone, close out of Clock, say OK to knowing that it will change appt times, etc. Returning to today screen, and letting system readjust to correct time. Then, DST is set and OggSync reports that the DST registry setting is correct.
Here is the problem: Each time I soft re-set, it loses the DST registry setting reading. I have to go back to the Clock and do the hocus-pocus changing of time zones to get it to read correctly.
I can't be the only one having this problem, can I? Can anyone suggest what I may be missing? Is there something that ATT added in one of the CABS that fixes this that I may be missing?
Please, if you can, wise gurus....HELP!!!
You might try turning off the Automatic Time Zone detection, which is under Settings > Phone > Time Zone. See if that fixes it.
According to MS, WM6 doesn't need the DST patch. Both my phones, 8525 & Tilt changed times without the patch.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx
You might need to install the DST patch on your PC, not your Tilt.
On this link you will find the patch for your PC:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/default.mspx
Thanks all for the replies.
I am not using a PC, so this isn't coming from that area.
My Tilt IS reporting the correct time and made the adjustment at 2 am on last Sunday.
The issue is that when OggSync (which is used to sync with Google Calendar) READS the registry settings for the time zone, they aren't there (or something like that, I think). The same issue happens when using SyncMyCal, another way of syncing with Google Calendar.
Is ANYONE syncing successfully directly with Google Calendar and has solved this problem? Or anyone else discovering issues?
It is weird. The phone is fine (time zone wise), but now its not just a soft reset. It seems that each time I open OggSync, I have to go through the little change-timezone-dance.
Any other thoughts?
snooginsguy said:
You might try turning off the Automatic Time Zone detection, which is under Settings > Phone > Time Zone. See if that fixes it.
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Thank you very much for this tip! I never would have thought to look there for the problem I was experiencing, but UNCHECKING the Automatic Time Zone detection as you suggested solved the problem for me. I was this close <holds fingers pretty close together> to hard-resetting my PDA to attempt to combat the issue, and your suggestion saved me!
Thanks again.
Hi folks. I'll make this as short as possible. No blabbering.
Clock constantly needs to have the time adjusted. Losing 3 - 5 minutes per week.
Also Active Sync is ALWAYS running in the background on my handset no matter what i do to close it.
Suggestions please? Are the 2 in some way related maybe?
RSVP with any comments or info you need from me... thank you, Steve
in terms of the clock losing sync, maybe it's syncing with your computer or something else which is out of sync by 3-5 minutes?
there are lots of fixes for the activesync always running, search around the forums
have you turned the clock sync off in the phone settings? it could be synching with your operator's network clock..
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in terms of the clock losing sync, maybe it's syncing with your computer or something else which is out of sync by 3-5 minutes?
there are lots of fixes for the activesync always running, search around the forums
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Clock - Good call but i actually very very rarely use USB to PC so doubt that could be the cause matey.
Sync - Ok, will do!
Steve
rhedgehog said:
have you turned the clock sync off in the phone settings? it could be synching with your operator's network clock..
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I have indeed sir, yes. As it currently sits there, my phone says 4.28 and my pc says 4.31! As my previous reply to the other kind person who took the time to reply to my dilema, i don't sync via USB much so... dunno!
Any other possibilities folks?!?!!!
Steve
Hi Everyone,
My little brother's tilt has its data always coming on by itself all the time. I changed the settings with kaiser tweak to end after a minute and it doesnt stop it. Hopefully someone can help me out with this problem.
are you sure that absolutley no apps are running which may download data periodically?
anurmalik said:
Hi Everyone,
My little brother's tilt has its data always coming on by itself all the time. I changed the settings with kaiser tweak to end after a minute and it doesnt stop it. Hopefully someone can help me out with this problem.
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Email, Weather, GPS aps, like Google Maps all access data connections. Change your email and weather notifications to update manually or any other app for that matter.
I use NoData. I've never had it to fail me.
Hi there,
I'm using my own 6.5 (custom) Rom (Build 23004). I use an hosted exchange
server for Direct Push. Syncing is working well without any errors. But sometimes
it just looses the connection and Active Sync tells me: "Last synchronized: ...".
Then i hit Synchronize and it stays connected for some time again.
This happens to me since a long time, I can't remember if this happened to me
using 6.1 Builds. But as far as I know I didn't get this issue using the stock Rom.
This issue is really annoying as WiMo doesn't even notify me about loosing the
connection, and then even "check email every X minutes works better.
Does anyone know a solution? I don't like to get back the "ugly" stock Rom.
P.S: I read some guys using a Tilt had this issue as well, if not using the AT&T
stock Rom, but the HTC one.
Edit: In the Attachment is the Active Sync log. Disconnect was at 10:35. Don't know if this helps.
Diewi said:
Hi there,
I'm using my own 6.5 (custom) Rom (Build 23004). I use an hosted exchange
server for Direct Push. Syncing is working well without any errors. But sometimes
it just looses the connection and Active Sync tells me: "Last synchronized: ...".
Then i hit Synchronize and it stays connected for some time again.
This happens to me since a long time, I can't remember if this happened to me
using 6.1 Builds. But as far as I know I didn't get this issue using the stock Rom.
This issue is really annoying as WiMo doesn't even notify me about loosing the
connection, and then even "check email every X minutes works better.
Does anyone know a solution? I don't like to get back the "ugly" stock Rom.
P.S: I read some guys using a Tilt had this issue as well, if not using the AT&T
stock Rom, but the HTC one.
Edit: In the Attachment is the Active Sync log. Disconnect was at 10:35. Don't know if this helps.
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For some time now I use 6.5 ROMs together with hosted Exchange and the problem you discribe hasn't occured to me once (been using 6.5 builds for about 3 months now).
Have you contacted your hosting provider? Maybe it's a setting in Exchange that causes the disconnect.
Not yet, I didn't think it was related to them. I'll write them a mail tomorrow, too late right now. A good input.
At least I know right now the problem isn't related to wm6.5 custom Roms.
Thanks for your answer.
Alright, I'm getting closer now.
Just taping "Synchronize" doesn't reestablish the connection. The last time the
error was probably related to bad signal (more later).
Yesterday evening the connection was lost again. It happened at 20:40. I
noticed it at about eleven o'clock and see there was no data connection. I
told active sync to synchronize, but it took twice until it finally established a
data connection. Syncing didn't work either. So I tried to access the web using
Opera, but no page was loaded, it just showed me the white screen, no error
message.
So, I turned the Phone on and off in Comm Manger, then it was working again.
I checked the log and it gave this line:
#2009-07-18 21:02:26.0000 AutdPing Ping received. HR = 85020003
At 21:02, there was the first sync attemp after the sync at 20:40.
The error code 85020003 tells me there is something wrong with the data
connection (conn mgr).
In Active Sync I get the error code 0x80072efd which is also related to
network problems.
So the problem is more complex I originally thought.
I'm really confused right now. Please, somebody got an advice?
Googled a bit trying to figure out what the error code means, some state you need to uncheck the proxyserver checkbox in your advanced connection settings. Others say uncheck the use SSL connection in your activesync settings. But none seem to be a conclusive solutions for everyone, so you can a least try.
Will try to find more....
gl
Thanks for your commitment Lokatho.
I've been searching a lot, but didn't find anything that seems to be related to my problem.
I think this behaviour isn't related to Active Sync actually. It rather seems to be a
problem with the connection. All articles I found only describe errors coming from Active
Sync itself.
The weired thing is that toggling the Data Connection on/off doesn't help. My device
won't connect to the Internet any more (using 3G/GPRS). Only disabling and reenabling
the phone makes it work again. The error only appears after hours of usage up to a day
or more.
Seems like I need to return to stock rom for further investigation soon.
PS: Didn't contact my hosting provider as I'm moving to a better (cheaper, more storage, exchange 2007 instead of 2003) one right now, let's see.
Alright, I think I found the solution. I disabled HSDPA/HSUPA as my phone
only wanted to connect to my carrier data connection if this option was unused.
Now I turned it on again, my data connection was still working, and the issue
seems to be gone! Now I have to wait further (working for 2 days now). I'm
really happy now it's gone. Remember this if your running into strange
problems with your data connection