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TomTom installed correct, but can't wake internal GPS - help please!

I have the .032 version installed just fine and set to use the 'internal gps receiver', I also have a map in there and activated. Tomtom works great, aside from it says:
NO GPS DEVICE
All the time. I re-check and it's set to internal gps, but no flashing light and no gps.... I also can't see any other apps that I can test out the gps on. It's a UK T-mobile vario III.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? I just expected it to work! Initally it said 'can't connect -flight mode, gps turned off' but I turned the phone radio back on (exited flight mode) and it then just says 'no gps device'. I also can't see an icon in connection manager for the gps. AGPS downloads fine and appears okay though.
Greg.

If TomTom is stating there's is "No GPS Device" then you don't have TomTom configured properly. You need to set TomTom to use "Other Wired GPS", select 4800 or 9600 bps and set to COM4. Once this is done it should detect the GPS and it will either show you your current position or it will say no valid GPS signal.
Use GPSTest application (search on google or on this website) to test your GPS. It will automatically scan your device, detect the GPS and give you a lock on your current position.
Hope that helps.

ecltech said:
If TomTom is stating there's is "No GPS Device" then you don't have TomTom configured properly. You need to set TomTom to use "Other Wired GPS", select 4800 or 9600 bps and set to COM4. Once this is done it should detect the GPS and it will either show you your current position or it will say no valid GPS signal.
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greg123, I've never heard of this (what ecltech described above) working, but if it does, then that's cool.
Did you do something to the external GPS settings? That has been known to cause problems with the internal GPS. I believe the problem there lies with conflicting registry settings.
As a last resort, you may want to try doing what I did. I have my TomTom set up to be capable of switching between the Kaiser's internal receiver and an external one I use to save battery. I did this by manually changing registry settings for the GPS. Follow this link to the Wiki, scroll to the bottom, and use the links there to see how to set everything up.
This, if you do it right, should bring back functionality of your internal receiver (it has worked thus far for the TyTN II [French] and the AT&T Tilt). You'll have to setup TomTom to look at "Other NMEA GPS", with the appropriate COM port.
Note to Moderators: Would it make sense to put the Kaiser Wiki up as a sticky?

Thanks guys. In the settings, if I choose other NMEA, it doesn't give an option for com port. It goes internal/tomtom bluetooth/other bluetooth/tomtom wired/other wired nmea and if I pick nmea it has a slider giving me the option of baud rate, then that's it, 'done' and be it on nmea or on 'internal gps' (which is the first one I used, I never messed with settings till I confirmed it didn't work with internal) there are no com port options and not working.
Happy holidays though!
Greg.

Thanks to all - I think I have fixed it. One line in reg was missing, as if tmob had had the gps 'disabled', the other was set to com1.
NOW when I go to tomtom it still doestn' work on internal, but set to nmea and now com options pops up, select com 0 and bingo it's talking!
Still puzzled why the 'internal gps' option doesn't work, maybe I have the wrong version of .032 I downloaded from the tomtom thread as I don't have the cd and the other version says 'incompatible rom' as I have the tmobile rom.
Greg.

Just to keep this answer on top so that it can be found by google:
THANKS a lot !!! This answer was the key to my question
I just owned a t-mobile MDA compact 3 (or MDA 3 compact) with built-in GPS device.
I found no hint how to use this device with other applications.
I got the device working with google maps mobile but for this
you need to be connected with the internet all the time.
Another quite usefull application is "turbo GPS" (just google around and
you'll find it; it's free). With that app you have some nice features like
tracking, storing waypoints and export to KML-files (for use with google earth).
that was my contribution to this forum to say thanks.
Peter
ecltech said:
If TomTom is stating there's is "No GPS Device"
then you don't have TomTom configured properly. You need to set TomTom
to use "Other Wired GPS", select 4800 or 9600 bps and set to COM4.
Once this is done it should detect the GPS and it will either show you your
current position or it will say no valid GPS signal.
Use GPSTest application (search on google or on this website) to test your GPS.
It will automatically scan your device, detect the GPS and give you a lock on
your current position.
Hope that helps.
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GPS Issues LiveSearch OK TomTom Not on Tilt

My device was working find with regards to GPS usage. I had to do a hard reset for some other issues. Now I can't get the GPS to work with TomTom or any other program where you specify the Com port.
Programs that work:
Live Search - Setting Windows Managed GPS Intermediate Driver
RunGps - Setting Windows Managed if you ask the program to find the port it will not find one. (Great Program)
Programs that don't work:
TomTom - Can't find the GPS whether I choose Internal or Other NMEA
GPS Test - Never finds the GPS
Any suggestions? Not really in the mood to do another hard reset but if folks think that will help I will try it. I have searched the forums and haven't found any specific answers to this.
This is an AT&T Tilt with the stock rom latest version from AT&T. No other modifications. I am not afraid to try editing the registry if need be.
Thanks,
Chris

bump.
Anyone?

did you install any gps software, i installed some crappy google maps knockoff and it borked my gps to where no program would connect had to hard reset my phone to get it to work again.

pdtp said:
did you install any gps software, i installed some crappy google maps knockoff and it borked my gps to where no program would connect had to hard reset my phone to get it to work again.
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Nope. I have Live Search and RunGPS. Neither program has ever interfered with TomTom. Seems like something has gone wrong with the com port that the internal gps uses.

After a hard reset your first lock will take a little longer. How long have you left tomtom running to be able to get a lock? It might say no gps device for a goot 10 min before it locks on.
Also when you start up tomtom is the orange light blinking?

fone_fanatic said:
After a hard reset your first lock will take a little longer. How long have you left tomtom running to be able to get a lock? It might say no gps device for a goot 10 min before it locks on.
Also when you start up tomtom is the orange light blinking?
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No lights. Running for 20 min and still can't find the device when set to internal gps. Thanks for the info though it was worth a try.

I have TomTom 6 and it is set to "Other BlueTooth GPS receiver" and Com4.
In Windows Mobile, Start, Settings, System tab, External GPS, Program port is Com4, GPS hardware port is (none), Baud 4800.

kierandill said:
I have TomTom 6 and it is set to "Other BlueTooth GPS receiver" and Com4.
In Windows Mobile, Start, Settings, System tab, External GPS, Program port is Com4, GPS hardware port is (none), Baud 4800.
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That didn't work either. I am going to do another hard reset this weekend and see what happens. I will install TomTom before anything else.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I gave up and did a hard reset. First thing I installed was TomTom. It now appears to work as previously. Not sure what took out the com port but now all is well.

live searh????
hi i upgraded my phones operating sistem or i shal say someone else did it for me other wise i would be able to figure this out my self. i cant get livesearch to run in the new windows mobile 6.1 why???? any one? any one????

gps is not working

Hi,
I've a HTC Diamond, UK version with the following rom:
1.35.401.3 WWE
30-05-2008
0.93.25.NS26
52.26.25.09H
I've try install different versions of tomtom, actually the 6.32, but impossible to detect the integrated gps... I've only bluetooth, wired and Others NMEA...
I've try all Bauds settings possibles on NMEA but noone work...
Any solution plz? I've 1 day for decide if I buy this Diamond for replace my Touch Cruise or not... And i want be sure the GPS is working...
Plz if you know, say me how can i have this gps working with tomtom...
Maybe an other rom? If yes wich? Or a special version of TomTom? Or any fix?

choose: other nmea gps
COM 4
baudrate works with 9600
(other may also work)
then you need to have "waiting for gps signal" in gps status
grtz

I can't chose the port... Only the baud rate...
And i have "not gps device found" always

i use 6.030.
in other postst you can find more information about used versions

I've try this version too but same problem... any idea?

you can check the settings from you internal gps receiver.
settings->external gps
you find there 3 pages with settings(com port etc)

yes
Programs: Ports: COM 4
Hardware: Port: None, Baud rate: 4800
But if i change anything, i click ok and come back, it is back to default value... I can't set 9600 Baud or other value... if i click ok and enter again in external GPS options, it's back to 4800...
This mobile does really have GPS??? I'ts not writed in the box and in the manual too... I see nothing about GPS... The manual is very little and the box is a "diamond looking box"...

TheMafioso said:
yes
Programs: Ports: COM 4
Hardware: Port: None, Baud rate: 4800
But if i change anything, i click ok and come back, it is back to default value... I can't set 9600 Baud or other value... if i click ok and enter again in external GPS options, it's back to 4800...
This mobile does really have GPS??? I'ts not writed in the box and in the manual too... I see nothing about GPS... The manual is very little and the box is a "diamond looking box"...
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offcourse it has gps. everybody is using it.
you do not need to change the settings in extarnal gps.
just open up tomtom, choose other nmea gps, 4800 baud and com 4.
i have tomtom 6.010 (i do not know what the newer versions have different)
and it works very good.

Strange because nothing say in the box or manual that it got gps... And it's not detected by tomtom...
Any idea??? Tommorow i have to give the diamond back or keep it so i've to decide today... And i want a mobile with gps working...

TheMafioso said:
Strange because nothing say in the box or manual that it got gps... And it's not detected by tomtom...
Any idea??? Tommorow i have to give the diamond back or keep it so i've to decide today... And i want a mobile with gps working...
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you can also use google maps. that has a gps function.

But google maps need to connect via gprs someitmes and that isn't totally free... I want a totally free use gps... Not a "net depending" gps...

TheMafioso said:
But google maps need to connect via gprs someitmes and that isn't totally free... I want a totally free use gps... Not a "net depending" gps...
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just for testing purposes!!
or use this program
http://gps.pdatopsoft.com/download/?pid=11555
install it, and it will look for your gps unit.
it will be installed under programs > gps test

Lol don't ask me how and why but i've hard reset the phone and reinstall tomtom, and now i've the choice of port and baud... I've chose 4800 baud and port com 4 and it works... lol

[ironic mode ON]So it seems like Diamond has GPS although it is not writen in the box...[/ironic mode OFF]
Bye

I have to say I was dubious when reading the specs too, as they say 'GPS and A-GPS Ready' - which normally leads you to believe that you need another bit of kit to use them.
Then I found confirmation - and was happy to order the phone.

QuickGPS
I order to get a good working signal start the program QuickGPS, download in this program the latest gps file from server.
Start Tom-Tom and use the settings mention above:
choose other nmea gps,
4800 baud and
com 4.
Be sure to stay outside free to air and you get your signal in about 30 to 45 seconds.

Tuut_Tuut said:
I order to get a good working signal start the program QuickGPS, download in this program the latest gps file from server.
Start Tom-Tom and use the settings mention above:
choose other nmea gps,
4800 baud and
com 4.
Be sure to stay outside free to air and you get your signal in about 30 to 45 seconds.
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And that's all. good explanation. i did the same and working. But why doesn't detect integrated antena like kaiser? any answer...

Do you guys have the following problem?
When I open the settings of the gps, inside the phone's settings, I try to change the settings, but when I press "ok" it doesn't save the changes. For example, if I change the baud rate from 4800 to 33600 and press ok, if I immediatly open it again, the setting goes back to 4800 again.
This happens also if I change the COM port from "none" to other.
Having "Manage GPS automatically" under "Access" tab activated or not, doesn't make a diference.
Bye

GPS problem with my tilt after flashing official 6.1 (already searched...)

OK, i've already searched the forum on this issue (went through all 12 pages of results for the words "tilt" and "gps", and while some others seem to have had this same problem, once they get down to the actual problem, the thread seems to end.
the problem is that ever since I upgraded my 6.0 wm version to 6.1 via the official att rom, my gps does not seem to work at all. and by this, I don't mean that I just can't get a lock on any satellites, but the gps itself doesn't seem to be working at all. i've loaded gpstest and after scanning through all the com ports (skipping com4 which is where it should be), it cannot find any gps device. I have downloaded the quickgps updates and the only other thing of note I would say is that I didn't load the att bloatware with the update. and because it started the moment I upgraded, I don't believe a hard reset would do much (would like to try everything possible beforehand so I don't have to reload everything)
now, if i have skipped the thread that gives the answer to this question, I would very much appreciate a link/response on this, as it's been bugging me for quite some time now. thanks in advance

Did you update the radio as well as the rom? Most 6.0 radios are not compatible with 6.1 roms. See the Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.

radio version is 1.65.21.18, and according to the wiki that should be a working radio for wm 6.1. lists this specific radio under the section "KAISER Radios These Radios were ripped from Kaiser WM6.1 ROMs. "

What program are you trying to use with for your gps? TomTom, Googlemaps?
I think I mastered getting a gps fix and I don't think you will have a problem if I help you.
Please provide
1) what gps application are you using
2) baud rate
3) are you using anything to open your gps port before you attempt to run the program?
4) did you change anything in external gps settings?

redbandana said:
What program are you trying to use with for your gps? TomTom, Googlemaps?
I think I mastered getting a gps fix and I don't think you will have a problem if I help you.
Please provide
1) what gps application are you using
2) baud rate
3) are you using anything to open your gps port before you attempt to run the program?
4) did you change anything in external gps settings?
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1.) well, initially i've just been trying to get gpstest to recognize the fact that i have a gps device at all, but i generally use google maps as my main gps program.
2.) for baud rate, i've been setting at 4800. admittedtly, i'm not sure what the baud rate does, but i've always read that that is the correct setting with few that say otherwise (i've tried multiple settings just to see if they work, they don't)
3.) i can't get anything TO open the gps port, as in gpstest skips com4 when searching for a device, google maps just times out trying to locate a signal (outside, clear view of the sky, before the upgrade i could get a signal sitting in my apartment on the first floor)
4.) i haven't changed anything from what it is at default (gps program port: com4, gps hardware port: none, baud rate: 4800, manage gps automatically is checked)
very much appreciate the help

Shaitheatery said:
1.) well, initially i've just been trying to get gpstest to recognize the fact that i have a gps device at all, but i generally use google maps as my main gps program.
2.) for baud rate, i've been setting at 4800. admittedtly, i'm not sure what the baud rate does, but i've always read that that is the correct setting with few that say otherwise (i've tried multiple settings just to see if they work, they don't)
3.) i can't get anything TO open the gps port, as in gpstest skips com4 when searching for a device, google maps just times out trying to locate a signal (outside, clear view of the sky, before the upgrade i could get a signal sitting in my apartment on the first floor)
4.) i haven't changed anything from what it is at default (gps program port: com4, gps hardware port: none, baud rate: 4800, manage gps automatically is checked)
very much appreciate the help
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sorry about the delay, I was at work and having issues posting a response with opera on this site because it stated I didn't have the proper tokens? No idea...
Anyhow, it appears you have all the right settings which is good. But you are definitely needing a better program to launch your gps. So stop using gps_test, as I offer you HTC_GPS_Tool, attached cab is at the bottom.
1) install cab to main memory
2) open googlemaps>menu>options>gps settings>set manually> com4 > Baud 4800 > click ok> menu select use gps
3) close googlemaps
4) open quickgps and download updates
5) open HTC_GPS_Tool>set com4> baud 9600 (yes 9600) > Click Open> "Hot Start" should be selected below it > let program run for about 45 seconds or more > DO NOT MINIMIZE OR CLOSE THIS APPLICATION BY CLICKING X OR OK
6) open googlemaps by going to start menu as it is the only option to select the application with GPS_Tool open (unless of course you have a hardware button shortcut for it)
7) You should have no issues getting a gps fix on googlemaps within 30-40 seconds for the first time.
8) However if you do receive issues restart this process and at Step 2 change Baud to 9600 in google maps but it shouldn't be necessary. These steps shouldn't be necessary everytime you want to open your gps port. However, if you encounter issues you have HTC_GPS_TOOL to help you. Always remember to update your quickgps outdoors if you plan on using it. Finally, leave your external gps settings alone.
If you have any further questions feel free to ask via pm or back in this thread, that is if mods don't lock it because your question was answered?

i just got done following all of the instructions (i already had htc gps tool installed in my quest to find something that works), and google maps came back and said that no gps receiver was found, even after setting the settings manually exactly as you said.

Shaitheatery said:
i just got done following all of the instructions (i already had htc gps tool installed in my quest to find something that works), and google maps came back and said that no gps receiver was found, even after setting the settings manually exactly as you said.
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ok then something is clashing with your gps. Do you have aGPS disabled?

redbandana said:
ok then something is clashing with your gps. Do you have aGPS disabled?
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it was enabled, just disabled with kaisertweak and am going to try the process once again

ok, we're making progress now lol. after disabling agps, htc gps tool started to actually give me scrolling text like it was working as opposed to the dialog box being completely empty. I goto open google maps, and at first get the same "gps device not found" message, but then for kicks I changed google maps to get gps settings from windows, and now it's past the initializing gps and is finally seeking satellites now. it might be because of a cloudy day today, but neither gps tool or google maps has gotten an actual fix on any satellites
thanks very much for the help so far, can't believe i didn't think of something so obvious to try

just went to grab some lunch, figured i'd try to get a fix on the way, google maps by itself got a fix in less than 5 seconds. thank you very much for taking the time to help me out, i am in your debt

How to activate the internal GPS?

Hi,
I have just purchased the HTC TD2 from Dubai airport on my way to work. I'm still using the stock wm6.1 ROM. I have installed Garmin GMXT on to the TD2 but can not get the internal GPS to be located, is there a trick to it?
FYI I have been using an O2 Atom Life for many years now and GMXT was working on that ok with external BT receiver. I have the SW.UNL file on my device but how to make it work?
Any advise on the best ROM to upgrade to on this site?
Thanx and regards

I had to set up gps software manually. I use this settings for Smartmaps: Com port 4 and baud rate 4800.

Thanx PRDIC,
Where did you set those Com ports? I see in the Settings/system there is a icon for External GPS and that has tabs for "Programs" and another for "Hardware" is this anything to do with hte COM port used by the internal GPS Reciever?
The Garmin GMXT software does not allow the user to define the com ports unless they are set in the "External GPS" application that I mentioned above. I think it should be automatic connection but I'm not seeing the internal GPS. If i use my BT Reciever then i can detect it as BT reciever and connect.

well, it look like a your GMXT (Garmin Mobile XT) didn't register or ativate correctly. please try to ativate using code come with a package when you brought GMXT. if GMXT is not register. it will not show the internal GPS hardware port (useualy port-4).
with un-registered GMXT, it will show only "External GPS" (bluetooth)or "intermideate GPS" which it is a software base between real hardware.
Hope my explained could help. moreover, GMXT atvivate have many process step. just becareful when do it.
sorry for my english :-[

I've never used garmin software, so I can't help you with this

guide144 said:
well, it look like a your GMXT (Garmin Mobile XT) didn't register or ativate correctly. please try to ativate using code come with a package when you brought GMXT. if GMXT is not register. it will not show the internal GPS hardware port (useualy port-4).
with un-registered GMXT, it will show only "External GPS" (bluetooth)or "intermideate GPS" which it is a software base between real hardware.
Hope my explained could help. moreover, GMXT atvivate have many process step. just becareful when do it.
sorry for my english :-[
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Thanx everyone,
I fixed the problem, it was due to a corupted file which occured when i installed the VOIP activation CAB for VOIP calling. The fix was found here and quoted below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402228&page=8
I had the same issue after installing the VOIP CAB on my Touch HD my GPS stopped completely (no GPS found) and found a fix for it in the orig. Thread about the VOIP CAB, where you have to rename a file and reset so it gets fresh created.
After this my GPS was running again.
The solution was "To solve the problem just rename file /windows/dnsapi.dll to for example dnsapi.dll_bck and make soft reset or turn off and on your device.
There will be created a new file with the same name and you can delete the old renamed one. Then the GPS working properly as well as VoIP.