HTCMail - now available for European Kaiser owners!!! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

HTCMail - now available for European Kaiser owners!!! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Saw that someone had posted about HTCMail being available to French users, but it seems to be available "in Europe" generally (German, English, Spanish, French, Italian - NOT Czech, Dutch or Russian yet)
Go to http://www.europe.htc.com/, select your language from the top right of the page (if not English), then click on the HTCMail tab. You can then register; the first stage of this is an IMEI check to ensure that you're using a Kaiser/TyTn II/etc.., then you can go on to choose "[email protected]".
The first two months are free, after which time it will automatically terminate your account if you don't sign up for a paid account (starting from €14.99 a month)....only ***** is that you can't download a copy of Outlook 2007 unless you pay some money.....
Still, it's gotta be worth a look for a freebie (lovin' the OWA2007 interface )
Oh, and you may want to backup your existing Exchange ActiveSync settings and associated mailbox on your Kaiser; the sign-up process downloads an HTC app that you install to your device that configures the Exchange ActiveSync/Direct Push....AND DELETES ANYTHING YOU ALREADY HAVE!!!
Like I said, it's worth a look...hell, what's another email account when you've got 9 already
Cheers,
Mark.

Interestingm, going to check it out

why is this better than livemail?

How much do you have to pay to get Outlook 2007?
Is it a full version that you can keep even if you terminate the account? Might be a ncie way to get a legit copy of Outlook cheap since HTC are skimping on that cost too with the latest phones and only supplying trials not full versions as they always have in the past.

sambartle said:
How much do you have to pay to get Outlook 2007?
Is it a full version that you can keep even if you terminate the account? Might be a ncie way to get a legit copy of Outlook cheap since HTC are skimping on that cost too with the latest phones and only supplying trials not full versions as they always have in the past.
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As far as I can tell, you don't get to download Outlook 2007 until you've paid to subscribe; no doubt the T's & C's contain details of whether you can retain the software if/when you terminate. At the starting rate of €15-ish per month for 3 months, a copy of Outlook ends up costing you €45 (about £34, give or take)....assuming they let you keep it (would they even know/care if you did????).
There are other offerings on the market - although not all of them use Exchange 2007; there's Mail2Web (Ex.2003) which in its' most basic form is free but you don't get Outlook unless you subscribe for about $10/month. There's also the Exchange 2007 hosting provided by XDA forum member @DeniaL (get the details in this post) which looks pretty good too. Other members undoubtedly have experience of others, so I guess it's a case of going with whatever option fits your needs....."you pays your money, you makes your choice"
As with any of these 3rd party mail solutions, I wouldn't use them for any business mail (as one of the two people in my company responsible for all aspects of IT security, I'd probably have to fire myself if I starting forwarding/storing corporate e-mail on an external server )....I use Mail2Web (free edition) for aggregating all my other POP3 mail accounts, but I may switch to the HTC offering if it pans out (it seems to be a fair bit speedier than Mail2Web and the OWA client on HTCMail is almost identical to the desktop version of Outlook 2007).
All this is just my opinion, so the usual "YMMV" applies - if you don't have Direct Push already, you can try it for 2 months free to see if you really need it....and if you do, then you can decide whether or not you wanna pay for it!!
Mark.

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Exchange 2003 SP2 functionality on WM5

Hi guys,
I've upgraded server at work to Exchange 2003 SP2. The server is fine (Thank goodness for that). However, my patched BA (WM5) is flacky with the settings that goes with the new push and pull email technology.
If SSL is checked when setting up Exchange server configuration on my BA using Active Sync, I get an error message that Server can not be reached. But then when I switch of SSL, all my contacts and emails are synchronized over WiFi successfully.
Another problem is that Server side security configuration (i.e. Enforce password on device set within Mobile Services on Exchange System Manager) is not reflecting on my PDA. Has anyone tried out this technology and what's your experience with so far?

I think you'll find you need Microsoft's Messaging and Security Feature Pack installed on the WM5 device, the only problem is that it's not available yet :roll: We're waiting for just this also!
br/Bosseye

HA!
Now that would explain why all the security feature failed to work. Thanks for the information.
When is the update planned for released?
Cytrax

Also, if it works with No-SSL, then you're getting to the Default Website on your SP2, which means SSL is not set on that. It'll work on WiFi because you'll have Port80 (http) access to the server from your internal network. Will only work over GPRS if you've got Port80 forwarded to the same server, and not off to somewhere else, or blocked. Also beware that if you're hosting multiple sites (via http headers) on the same box as you're SP2 is, then http and SSL sites don't mix readily. Hope this helps. br/Bosseye.

Hey Bosseye,
That's really strange because I know for a fact that SSL Port 443) is configured to forward all to the Server. Port 80 is also set to forward to the same server but not really used.
Furthermore, I'm running the test from home so I'm not exactly on the work LAN. This creates more confusion for me because exchange is configured on IIS to use SSL and not HTTP. What do you think is happening here?
Thanks.
cytrax

Utter crap. Just seen that Microsoft's Messaging and Security Feature Pack isn't available till 2006, and then only via OEM. Sounds like Blackberry connect all over again

That's BS!
WTF were Microsoft thinking?
I guess it's back to the drawing board again for all developers on Wiki.
That's BS man!

Well - I was on the Microsoft webcast last week about the MSFP on 20 Oct and the presenter clearly said "anytime now". Without it, MS is failing the primary purpose of a wireless PDA - sync with the enterprise email - and that'll sure irritate their partners who want to shift more PDAs that do stuff other than consumer retro-fit sat nav for cars!

Hey Cytrax,
Difficult to say much about your current problem cos I don't have much info on your setup, but if you're sure that Exch is on SSL, you did remember to put the right certificate on the WM5 device after you upgraded it? However, if you've also got port80 forwarded then, it should work without SSL. Any more clues?
br/

Well, I've seen some slides for Exchange SP2 / MSFP for a talk at the Microsoft IT Forum in Barcelona, I quote from the slide:
MSFP will be rolled into Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU2
For devices shipping after AKU2, OEMs can pick up MSFP as part of normal AKU process
For 5.0 devices already in market, OEMs can use Image Update to deploy MSFP
For Windows Mobile 2003 SE devices already in market, OEMs can provide traditional ROM upgrades via ROM re-flash – complete upgrade to 5.0 required
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/strategy/wm5exch03.mspx
Devices and upgrades will be available sometime early next calendar year through our major device maker (OEM) and mobile operator partners. Please contact your device maker or mobile operators for more details regarding availability

I actually in a computer magazine last week that people would be able to download MSFT from Microsoft this month.
As things stand, I really don't know what to believe. However, I personally think they (Microsoft) would have no choice but to release it as a download for the public.

Well, despite what I heard then, I'm now hearing that Microsoft's route to market will be via OEMs and Mobile operators :roll: , and that the release date will be Q1/2006 - which means 31st March 2006...
The same old stupid mistakes... just like Blackberry. Every minor advancement of mobile messaging just extracts more money... thereby minimising market adoption. :evil:
I refuse to subscribe to a strategy of lining the packets of the OEMs and the Mobile operators, as I pay enough in licences to Microsoft already...

Seriously, this is total BS.
My company has been waiting to get this technology for sometime now . But only to find out we can only get our hands on through most phone operators is just straight up wack.
I'm sure Wiki would be alive to derail all their money making plans. Fingers crossed!

If nothing has changed before the 14th November, then I'm off to the Microsoft IT Forum in Barcelona for a week, so I'll go ask Jason Langridge in person. He's helped me out a couple of times in the past and is a good lad

Dude, you've got the best job. You get to this forums? I would love to work for your company. Any openings coming up soon?
scruffty said:
If nothing has changed before the 14th November, then I'm off to the Microsoft IT Forum in Barcelona for a week, so I'll go ask Jason Langridge in person. He's helped me out a couple of times in the past and is a good lad
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Help with setting up my own exchange server

Hi,
I've been thinking to set up my own exchange server. i looked into it, but it seems pretty hard. Does anybody have a good step-by-step installation guide. most guides assume a complete network infrastructure is already in place, but for me that is not the case.
once exchnage is working i found this thrad to set up push email.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45008

the first question I have for you is do you have a static IP from your ISP??
If so then you are in really good shape
you also need a domain name
a copy of server 2003
a copy of exchange 2003 sp2

madcow_mda said:
Hi,
I've been thinking to set up my own exchange server. i looked into it, but it seems pretty hard. Does anybody have a good step-by-step installation guide. most guides assume a complete network infrastructure is already in place, but for me that is not the case.
once exchnage is working i found this thrad to set up push email.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45008
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That would be quite an undertaking. Don't think this is the right forum though...
You will need a static IP, true. SBS 2003 would be your most cost effective solution. Typically a dual proc computer with 2GB ram, good firewall with antivirus recomended. Then as mentioned you need a domain name, configure your MX record and reverse DNS. There's step-by-step guides readily available. Not really rocket science but I do it for a living. For the average Joe I'd suggest going with a hosted Exchange account.
Steven

Alright I will put up my 2 cents. First I don't want to insult any of the other answers you got, sorry if I do.
1. You should find a different forum, a book, and an online tutorial.
2. You need a PC that can run server 2003. If this is not going to be a production server (if its just for you to play with) then you don't need all that muscle. I have run 2003 on a 500mhz machine with 256 or 512 of ram (can't recall) It was a domain controller and mail server (this was just to play with obviously, NOT FOR PRODUCTION) Also ATLEAST a 20GB HD although I think you could do it with 10GB (but don't unless you HAVE to)
3. You don't NEED a static IP, although it would make things easier. You can use a DDNS service to help get around the static IP (DDNS = Dynamic Domain Name Service). I can't recommend any because I have never used them but GOOGLE will prove useful for finding a keeper.
4. A domain name will be nessacary if you use DDNS (if you have a static IP then theoretically you could access the Exchange server by IP address *I have never done that so that's why it theoretical.) You can get a domain name VERY cheap nowadays. I think http://www.godaddy.com had good pricing last time I checked.
5. SBS (Small Business Server) 2003 would do you just fine. However 2003 standard and Exchange will also work fine. You can always get SP2 for exchange on Microsoft's web site.
I think that's what you would need (I may have over looked something) to get started. After that just some dedication and research and you will be up and running in no time.
Have Fun; Lew
P.S. I'm not responsible for you breaking anything you may break while attempting this project (and all that good stuff.) This includes your Wizard, your "server", your internet connection, any nearby cars, or your relationships. That being said I have never seen any of that happen (except for of course loosing a relationship while setting up a large corporate Active Directory and Exchange server farm, this I HAVE seen.)

Well written Lew. Curious on point 4 however as MX records must point to the FQDN of a valid A record per RFC's ...
I do concur on the rest though. I've done this on older computers... sometimes I just forget where I am (and what I've got to support)
Steven
(and you did answer this much better than I)

Now that you mention it, your right. You do need a Domain name. I forgot about the MX pointer. MX records are part of DNS that points to the authorized mail server for the domain name. It points at an established "A" record. So you will need a Domain name =)
Thanx for pointing that out Dr Puttingham, I forgot about that.
Later; Lew

lew you did cover all of the necessary items but as far as the static is concerned I said you needed one because those ddns services are not as good as most people think as I have looked into it and also configured them and most require additional fees based on bandwith and other requirements

also server will run on a laptop too
being in the military we have had to make d600's servers due to lack of equipment

hmmm thanks for all the replys. that does sound like a hell of lot of figurin out that i have to do.
but one thing? if i register at www.dyndns.org and i have a name like something.homeftp.org then isn't that my domain? i alwys thought so, but im getting the idea that this is not the case.
i have an account there to access my ftp server, but now i have a windows mobile 5 device and i would like to sync over internet and an exchange server is the only option.
furthermore:
im planning on running it one a PIII600 with 512MB RAM and 40GB. since the only thing it will be doing is exchange and ftp. i have been looking at some guides, but none so far seem to have a router implemented. they all use large servers. will it be a problem if the server is behind my router? (i know i can turn the server into a router by adding a second network card, but i would like to use the wireless capabilities of my router)
o yeah, which forums would you suggest?

Well, I'd go with SBS 2003 Standard Edition as it's about $500 or $600. Seperately Standard Server 2003 and Exchange 2003 cost about that much. You get get a 180 day trial evaluation copy from http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/evaluation/trial/default.mspx
Yes you'd typically keep the server behind the router and open up a few ports on the router. You can definetly use the PIII600 but don't forget the antivirus!
Good tech docs are at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/productdoc/default.mspx but there's also alot more you can find Googling.
I personally hang out at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exchange-2003/
Once again I'd look into a Hosted Exchange though ....
That's all the info I can really offer here on this forum, hope I was of some help.
Steven

Kaiser - TyTN II - GoodLink ver 5

I have not found any threads regarding this so I went ahead and bit the bullet and tried on my GoodLink server. Initially disappointed because my server was setup to send the last ver 4 GoodLink software to the Kaiser. After upgrading then to ver 5 the phone portion of the device would not work no matter what I did. GoodLink seemed to work but the phone wouldn't. I then uninstalled GoodLink via the remove programs (now GoodLink does not require hard reset to get rid of it).
I waited 24 hours (chicken). I then made sure that ver 5 was pushed to the device initially - viola - seems to work great now after 24 hours. No slowing of the device as was the case with other lesser devices (memory and processor speed!).
So far I believe that for those who want GoodLink and PPC the Kaiser may be the best device so far! I'll keep you updated as to any glitches that come up. I fully recognize that with some of the improvements to Pocket Outlook and with always on active sync GoodLink is not as needed as it was before but there are still some "closer to desktop Outlook" advantages for business users.

jcrompton said:
So far I believe that for those who want GoodLink and PPC the Kaiser may be the best device so far! I'll keep you updated as to any glitches that come up.
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So - I binned Goodlink some time ago on the Co HP device and opted for a phone the performance was so bad. Based on your recommendation I might try it again. Where can I get the latest CAB? Will my old account registration work on the TyTN - or do I have to go back to the IS dept for another "key" to get setup?
Thx
Graham

The IT dept has to enable the version 5 for your device. In my case I have my own GoodLink server and I tried to install via a cab file and it didn't work for some reason. So I went back to the OTA setup. Just call the IT dept and ask them to enable the version 5 for your device (that is assuming they have upgraded their server yet) and resend you a PIN email. It is three or four mouse clicks so don't let them act like it is much trouble!
If you don't get ver 5 right off the bat then uninstall it don;t go any further because it didn;t work for me to "upgrade" ver 4 to 5!

how much better is it than 4.93? i find it a little buggy and i still need to activesync my calendar and contacts for other Hpone related items.

Goodlink
Goodlink 4.9.3.21 works like a charm, syncs mail, calendar, notes, tasks, the works and it's fast too. Not sure why yours would be 'buggy'; mine works like a charm without failure.
My $0.02

ekerbuddyeker said:
how much better is it than 4.93? i find it a little buggy and i still need to activesync my calendar and contacts for other Hpone related items.
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There are definitely some improvements with ver 5 -- one thing to know (I have another post somewhere else) is that you need to prepare for the fact that there is integration with the native contact list and GoodLink. In other words if you still use Active Sync (like via a server) you will get duplicate contacts. The IT person for the GoodLink server has a setting to choose what parts of you contact list will get sync'd with the native contact list for "use with voice dialing" etc (as per GoodLink's literature), i.e, Last, First, work, home, fax, email. Once you figure out what is going on it is actually better because the native contact list takes up less space because you can pick and choose (the IT GoodLink admin guy) what is sync'd.
All the while the GoodLink Calendar list , of course, gets fully sync's as it is designed to do.
[Interestingly with vers 5 server and ver 5 on the device the GoodLink admin person can actually "dis-allow" the use of any particular application on your device. Every program you have on your device shows up on the GoodLink Mangemenet Console. It's pretty cool -- that is if you have access to the server!!!]
If you have question just ask and I'll try to answer them since I have my own server
PS as far as the duplicate contact thing you need to use PPContactsMgr and delete ALL of your native contacts, then tell active sync NOT to sync contacts and then let GoodLink do its thing as far as syncing the selected fields of you native contact list.
PSS I really like using GoodLink so far -- with it's limited syncing of the native contacts list which then work NICELY with PocketCM to make calls text msgs etc

A bunch of GOOKS...
Check out http://www.frontpages-web-hosting.net/exchange-hosting/goodlink.asp
(read the second paragraph title that's in orange)
...it's justification why good Quality Control is important !!

i dont have access to the server. so that means my IT can see ALL the apps that areon my device and control what I can / cannot use?

ekerbuddyeker said:
i dont have access to the server. so that means my IT can see ALL the apps that areon my device and control what I can / cannot use?
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Iten I was browsing sure does. I was really surprised when I was browsing my new management console for ver 5 and click on a tab that took a minute or two to respond (I didn't know at the time but it was retrieving from my device) and then showed my applications on my device and gave options for which to allow and which to disallow!!
I didn't want to mess anything up so I didn't experiment.

technillion said:
Check out http://www.frontpages-web-hosting.net/exchange-hosting/goodlink.asp
(read the second paragraph title that's in orange)
...it's justification why good Quality Control is important !!
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That's pretty funny. I can think of a lot of potentially offensive comments about the advertisement but I will use better judgement ............

jcrompton said:
The IT dept has to enable the version 5 for your device.
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I tried the OTA setup and it gave me version 6(!).. Needless to say my old PIN wasn't valid - and the IT dept wouldn't enable it for me. They said "can't use none approved devices on Company networks".. so I can't use my TyTNII with Goodlink. I think the PIN was for v5.. but I don't see how to get the v5 CAB
?
Graham