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Why Opera?

I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib

Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.

Drag and scroll.
Highlight and copy text
Save images
Successfully renders web pages more frequently than does the IE - IMHO

herpi said:
I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
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Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
EDIT: Update to above entry. PIE now has a fix for scrolling issue - downloadable here: IE Slow Scroll Fix for Kaiser_Tilt.cab
Mike

mikechannon said:
Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
Mike
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Gotcha!
Tested them both with a longer page and the difference is clear.
Thanks for your input.
Huib

Hi!
can Opera-mini and other apps be run from the memory card satisfactorily?
i.e are they slower?
I wonder if my other applications such as Resco Explorer 2007 and Code Wallter can be run from the card too?
Ofiaich

Don't take what I say as gospel but when I had Opera installed on the SD card it didn't function completely correct - like didn't follow email links correctly along with a couple of other glitches etc.
Likewise I have always been a bit hesitant to install things that operate so cloely with the OS, like Resco Explorer, to the card. They have always seemd to work much better on the main memory. Just my opinion.
Thus I have Opera mini and Resco Explorer installed on the main memory while just about everything else I have on the SD card.

jcrompton!
Thanks very much! Sounds good to me, and I have space in the main memory!
I will get on and download Opera mini !
Ofiaich

Opera Can Handle Regular Youtube!
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile). I say this because i tested it for myself, a while ago on my mda vario or vario 2 (sorry cant remember). What seemed to be a slight problem though was, it ran out of memory frequently (ram) and as such the program would not start if other applications were running in the background.
Opera users on WM6, your reviews and thoughts on this are much appreciated!

gogol;1566087 said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??

jcrompton said:
Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
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I have Opera Mobile... Are ppl actually saying to try Opera Mini? I will if thats the case.. But it's made for phones not WM6 devices.
JB

opera mini? that's a java midlet. why wouldn't it work on the kaiser?

gogol said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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OK - so I just figured out how to get Opera Mini work via the Java app under programs -- have you been able to get email links and other http links to automatically be opened by Opera Mini - I made some registry changes to get Opera Mobile to be the default browser, can you get Opera Mini to do that ? (wasn't sure since it is buried as a Java program)

stryker1355 said:
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile).
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.

I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....Opera Mobile though is the bomb! I just wish it was free like the Mini version is, but it's good enough to pay for anyway. PIE just is not very good at rendering most webpages.

opera is very good browser but the built in pie some times show websites better than opera example http:\\www.xda-developers.com

maryjos said:
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike

Does opera support flash videos?

mikechannon said:
I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
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Are you able to "auto" load links like from an email

swamp2 said:
Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
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I just hit YouTube with Opera on mine and any 'watch now' links open the video for streaming in WMP. Is that normal?

Touch screen web browser

There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver

There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks

You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.

I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini

Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers

picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it

Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.

Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?

As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform

WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)

Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.

Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.

Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming

I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?

picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html

dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(

MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.

dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?

MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.

Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".

Kaiser Browser - Which is the best?

Good afternoon,
Now, before I get flamed I have done a search and seen numerous threads on this topic however I would like to get an updated set of views.
I have a TyTn II and I'm looking for a good browser to use with my devise. So far i've been using Explorer (heh) and Opera 9.5 from the Diamond build.
Explorer does not format pages anywhere near impressive and Opera 9.5 is such a memory hog it's not even funny, slows down my devise something rottern most of the time.
I want a browser which is similar to the 9.5 formatting (looks good) but does not completely rape the performance of the devise.. any imput?

i use netfront, i new opera has too much stuff to configure so i used to to just stick with opera 8.65 and pie plus until i found netfront which replaced opera for me.

Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.

dyetheskin said:
i use netfront, i new opera has too much stuff to configure so i used to to just stick with opera 8.65 and pie plus until i found netfront which replaced opera for me.
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Netfront for me too. I find it handles any memory issues better if you install it on the SD card if you have the option.
Rob

NetFront downloading @ 1/2 speed of PIE
rfarnell said:
Netfront for me too. I find it handles any memory issues better if you install it on the SD card if you have the option.
Rob
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I am trying NetFront and love it but it only downloads at about 1/2 the speed of PIE. PIE 768K NF 325K using
http://test.dslreports.com/mspeed . What am I doing wrong?

strikeone said:
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
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agreed, the best Ive found so far ..

strikeone said:
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
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For the overly paranoid, Opera Mini and SkyFire have everything rendered and the pushed to you through their own servers. It gives you quicker page loads, at the risk of having your passwords stored on a random server somewhere.
I've found this version of Opera Mobile 9.5 to be pretty solid.

snachez said:
For the overly paranoid, Opera Mini and SkyFire have everything rendered and the pushed to you through their own servers. It gives you quicker page loads, at the risk of having your passwords stored on a random server somewhere.
I've found this version of Opera Mobile 9.5 to be pretty solid.
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defently skyfire, can't download anything though so opera mini, i also keep opera around there is a new version floating around here on xda that has flash enabled but still can't handle video streaming (why skyfire is a must for me)

I'll second Opera Mobile 9.5. It has been by far the best browser for me; with a few fixes in the next release (hopefully official), i can't see another browser standing in its way.

On a sidenote, whatever happened to DeepFish by Microsoft?

none b4 and none to come
SKYFIRE IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!

strikeone said:
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
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+1. Although I do use Skyfire when some pages don't come out right in OM. I only use PIE when I have to (mostly just for LogMeIn).

Uninstall Opera Browser?

Hi!
Anyone know how I can uninstall Opera Browser? I really hate it and don't want it on my phone!
//
Dezent

) what's the problem dude? why in the world would you do that? it's purley awesome... or do you prefer PIE? )

I hate IE to.. But it's better then Opera ...

DezentSwe said:
I hate IE to.. But it's better then Opera ...
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I have to agree with you on that m8, I'm really starting to hate opera. Where can I get PIE from?

sony007 said:
I have to agree with you on that m8, I'm really starting to hate opera. Where can I get PIE from?
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From your phone. It's not removed...

Oh

Ok, is there any reason why i can't seem to connect to logmein web page using opera or ie?

yea...they should've made one browser..ie and opera together...havin problems with opera on my mobile too...everytime i rotate the screen to landscape mode...it minimizes:/...neone know a fix?n where can i download the latest version of opera?mayb updatin it will fix the problem...

I'm not sure if there is an update. I believe we already have Opera Mobile 9.5 (beta), which Opera lists as the current one.
But, if you don't care for the default Opera interface, perhaps you should try Opera Mini?
http://www.opera.com/mini/
For info on the differences between Mobile and Mini:
http://www.opera.com/products/choose/

I have to admit that i find Opera Mobile a hassle sometimes. Adding that the data-charges on my subscription is quite substantial I often use opera mini, wich really is getting good these days.

Still looking for the answer. I really liked Opera on previous devices, but really don't care for it on the Diamond. I don't care for the UI, or lack thereof, and the Favorites is a mess. Zooming and panning is a nice feature, but having to constantly adjust to get a decently rendered page is a pain. PIE is much better for me on the Diamond. Better/familiar user controls and better rendering.
I do have IE on a soft key, but programs that auto switch to the browser still call Opera as the default. Opera also eats a big chunk of phone memory. I have tried the 9.5 Beta and it's some better, but not much and does not delete the existing Opera.
So back to the original question...anybody know how to uninstall Opera and change the System defaults to PIE?
Thanks

JRMX said:
Still looking for the answer.
So back to the original question...anybody know how to uninstall Opera and change the System defaults to PIE?
Thanks
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I would like to know also

omg
10wtfs

best browser?

what version is the opera browser already installed on the xperia x1? i have both this one and opera mobile 10
and in ur openion what is the best browser for the x1?

I installed Skyfire from the windows marketplace and i've got to say its very fast and very easy to use - my second choice would be the opera pre-installed because you can use the volumn buttons to zoom in (unlike opera 10 )

Best PPC Browser I've ever used: UC Web Browser
Free - Fast - Anonymouse

I guess it's 9.5.

surprising nobody has voted for PIE yet
my vote went for opera mini

Opera rocks like none............................ Its user interface has now set a benchmark which will let us, the user to feel the web in our hand without being connected to wires.

lol opera mobile 10 is sweet, full internet support, even youtube like the desktop experience

I will say that:
There's still no perfect browser.
I don't know if there will be any.
For now Opera Mini 5 native for WM is the fastest
and works good,
but OMobile 10 supports more things in browsing.
Unfortunately still OMobile 9.5
on X1 can do things no other can do....

Best browser for me would be Opera mobile 10 with the possibilities of Skyfire. Now it is Opera Mobile 10 because its fast, but I also use Skyfire if I cant get the desktop version of a site on Opera Mobile.

9.5 > SkyFire > All others
Mini sucks.

orelsi said:
9.5 > SkyFire > All others
Mini sucks.
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Interesting view.
9.5 is capable but slow...
And crashes very often.
Skyfire I don't use
but Mini native is really impressive in many areas.

doministry said:
Interesting view.
9.5 is capable but slow...
And crashes very often.
Skyfire I don't use
but Mini native is really impressive in many areas.
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Agreed about the 9.5 I find that the pluses outweigh the minuses in this particular case.
SkyFire was pathetic at the beginning, but is getting better with every update. Too bad it doesn't have multiple tab support, yet.
Mini annoys me for some reason.
The Fennec browser will be the next big thing IMHO. It is quite awesome even on this early stage of development.

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Agreed about the 9.5 I find that the pluses outweigh the minuses in this particular case.
SkyFire was pathetic at the beginning, but is getting better with every update. Too bad it doesn't have multiple tab support, yet.
Mini annoys me for some reason.
The Fennec browser will be the next big thing IMHO. It is quite awesome even on this early stage of development.
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Fennec/Mozilla for WM is OVER.
Officially stopped all the development for it.
Maybe for WP7...

doministry said:
Fennec/Mozilla for WM is OVER.
Officially stopped all the development for it.
Maybe for WP7...
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Yup, I have faith, though. Put on hold doesn't mean cancelled + they are still developing it for other platforms.

Aha,in China Everyone like using UCWEB as the internet browser.
so i choose UCWEB. not you mentioned above.

I am using iris browser. Sadly it is not available anymore. Only browser so far that passes acid3-test.

Sadly, every browser have at least one major problem.
- Skyfire webpages looks like **** and there is no costumization options
- New IE in WM6.5 is actually really good, but is SLOOOOOOOOOOOW
- Opera already installed (probably you mean 9.x) dont support HW keyboard
- Opera mini dont have zoom setting (only font size which corrupt lots of pages) and dont support javascript.
- OM10 is really close to perfect browser, but when you click link or back button, there is no indication that it started loading, so you dont know if you actually clicked it.
Anyway, my choice is OM10.
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Fennec/Mozilla for WM is OVER.
Officially stopped all the development for it.
Maybe for WP7...
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AFAIK Mozilla said that they wont develop browser if M$ wont open platform. Which probably wont happen.

matejdro said:
Sadly, every browser have at least one major problem.
- Skyfire webpages looks like **** and there is no costumization options
- New IE in WM6.5 is actually really good, but is SLOOOOOOOOOOOW
- Opera already installed (probably you mean 9.x) dont support HW keyboard
- Opera mini dont have zoom setting (only font size which corrupt lots of pages) and dont support javascript.
- OM10 is really close to perfect browser, but when you click link or back button, there is no indication that it started loading, so you dont know if you actually clicked it.
Anyway, my choice is OM10.
AFAIK Mozilla said that they wont develop browser if M$ wont open platform. Which probably wont happen.
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EXACTLY my feelings.
IE could be so good if faster!!

matejdro said:
Sadly, every browser have at least one major problem.
- Skyfire webpages looks like **** and there is no costumization options
- Opera already installed (probably you mean 9.x) dont support HW keyboard
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Not ture.
- The resolution and sharpness is a lot better in the newest version.
- Lolwat? Yes it does.

True,
Opera Mobile supports HW qwerty perfectly.