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I've heard of a few friends getting bluetooth PAN tethering with only the standard non-tethering data plan ($40/45). Has anyone succeeded in doing this? I would try to figure it out myself, but all the bay area stores are sold outof the Tilt.
You can tether with any data plan. You can tether via USB or BT. I have the MediaMax plan, and tether with my Kaiser (and I did with my 8525 and Blackjack before them).
Now whether it is allowed or not is a different story. But, technically, it works with no issues.
you can tether any device without tethering package
They don't want you to because of the large data downloads, I say go ahead just don't go bragging about it our the may try to audit your acct.
jomo25 said:
You can tether with any data plan. You can tether via USB or BT. I have the MediaMax plan, and tether with my Kaiser (and I did with my 8525 and Blackjack before them).
Now whether it is allowed or not is a different story. But, technically, it works with no issues.
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I should note that at least one of the other people that got it to work without a proper tethering plan was in the same situation as you: they started out with a Blackberry, and then just didn't switch plans to another plan.
For new Tilt owners, AT&T offers a handful of plans, all under the "PDA" plan family. "PDA Personal Max" is $40, and doesn't include tethering, "PDA Personal Max - Tethering" does, but is a ridiculous $70.
Has anyone gotten tethering to work on a new AT&T non-tethering plan? What happens if you try to connect to the phone via PAN without the tethering plan? I wonder if a hacked ROM could fix this, if it's blocked by software on the phone.
I use a program called PDANet. It's like $30 but well worth it because it can save you a lot of money. http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php
It more or less makes it appear as if your data is coming from your phone instead of your laptop.
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I should note that at least one of the other people that got it to work without a proper tethering plan was in the same situation as you: they started out with a Blackberry, and then just didn't switch plans to another plan.
For new Tilt owners, AT&T offers a handful of plans, all under the "PDA" plan family. "PDA Personal Max" is $40, and doesn't include tethering, "PDA Personal Max - Tethering" does, but is a ridiculous $70.
Has anyone gotten tethering to work on a new AT&T non-tethering plan? What happens if you try to connect to the phone via PAN without the tethering plan? I wonder if a hacked ROM could fix this, if it's blocked by software on the phone.
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I wonder why the rep I spoke to told me that of all the PDA plans, all included tethering? I was fighting tooth and nail to get the PDA unlimited + 1500 SMS / free M2M messaging but was unable to because "the IMEI for the Kaiser is being reported as an unknown device".
I ended up having to get the PDA Personal Unlimited + shared unlimited messaging for my family plan. Anyway, PDA Personal Unlimited is supposed to have tethering included.
Can't get PDAnet to work. Looks like it uses same style to connect as when I use the connection wizard anyway. I doubt this program subverts cingular's ability to tell what is using what data connection...
Anyway, I googled around and tried the different usernames and passwords and APN's I found but no luck with PDAnet...
any suggestions anyone?
What about USB Modem by Mobile Stream?
It worked well with my PPC-6700....
http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html
Data plans have NO bearing on whether your phone can tether or not. If data access is enabled on your account with any plan in place you have the "ability" to tether, but not necessarily "permission". It doesn't matter if it is a pay as you use it or a full laptop connect plan. For those that are tethering without the proper data plan it is like driving without a seat belt. You may have driving for hundreds of miles without anything happening, but one day......
For the Tilt, the program Internet Sharing works like a champ. Just launch it, click connect, and plug it up to your computer.
Download this cab to install it.
For the Tilt: There is no need to install it. The IntrShr.exe or something similar is right in the \Windows directory. Just make a shortcut to your start menu for it.
laakness said:
For the Tilt: There is no need to install it. The IntrShr.exe or something similar is right in the \Windows directory. Just make a shortcut to your start menu for it.
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Correct, but the cab just makes it easier for a noob.
am i doing somehing wrong becaus it askes for a username and password. It is like I am trying to dial up or something..
I am an idiot. I enabled the dialup network... which ATT told me to do. JERKS!. in anyevent, you must enable the PAN network then it works AWESOME... My speeds are excellent too. about 800-1300 down and about 300-500up... PERFECT...
thanks XDA
Internet sharing on my Kaiser/TyTn II works like a champ and quite easy to set up...Your provider, in my case ATT, might and some say will notice large amounts of data use so beware of that. They will audit and go after your money in that case. I dont use it frequently even though I have unlimited data plan with Media Net for the overpriced amount of $39.99...geeee I'm really glad they don't charge me $40.00
I know I read somewhere u can use ur wifi and not ur at&t internet as a modum if u turn off the phone at&t will never know anyone else reaed this and if so know where it is? thanx
I come from the Verizon world, where you could not authenticate through tethering unless you paid the extra $15/month. (But PDANet did work just fine). I have seen posts (albeit older dates) that claim people were charged heavy data rates for tethering when they did not have a data plan that included it.
I am using a Tilt and have the $59.00 Tether data plan. I am able to tether using either APN: wap.cingular or isp.cingular.
My friend has a Tilt with the $49.00 data plan without tethering (but with SMS). I tested his phone and could only get it to connect using wap.cingular for tethering.
So my questions are:
1) Do I actually need the tethering plan or can I reduce my plan and use wap.cingular? (I know it works but it leads me to the next question)
2) If you use wap.cingular without the tethering plan will you get charged the outrageous data rates?
3) What is the actual difference between the two APN's?
Thanks for any info you can provide!
SC
#1 and #2. For tethering legally, yes, you must have laptop connect. With Internet Sharing on the newer phones, it makes it harder for AT&T to prevent you from doing this (without being charged), but they most likely will eventually get you.
For #2, see this thread, specfically the crumbfire post. He explains it excellently:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=47397&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
Hi:
I have searched and searched with no luck. I am on an ATT Tilt, and would like to use PdaNet to connect PC to internet through phone. I have yet to be able to get it to work properly. I get dial up error=721 (state=8193). I used PdaNet on my Treo 750 (which I had prior to the Tilt), and it worked perfectly, so I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Any ideas what the problem could be?
I am on an unlimited pda plan, but don't want to incur additional charges (such as the tethering plan), for very minimal, occasional tethering use, so ideally I would like to connect in a way that I won't be "caught", lol.
Any help would really be appreciated!
I'm use Internet Sharing via Bluetooth or USB to connect my laptop via my phone for Internet access. This is without a tethering plan from AT&T. The plan I have is $39.99/month, however they have a cheaper plan - MediaNet w/unlimited Data and 200 TXT MSG. Others have been using this plan without any issues. I ma venture to try this soon.
cincy1020,
For your problem with dial-up, you're not adding a modem via your pc. Try it with the USB cable first -- go to Internet sharing on the phone and select USB and click Connect. Connect your USB cable to your laptop and it should detect a network card and get an IP address. No need for dialup. You will have to install Active Sync on your laptop (I find it easier).
I think you're trying to use a modem which will probably require a tethering plan and that's probably why you're having the dialup error.
cincy1020
Well here's the deal for GPRS. You do not need PDANet. So give your license to someone who is still on CDMA somewhere. You first need to install the driver for the HTC Kaiser/Tilt as a USB Modem. A few forum searches will find the inf to install in windows. Then you simply set up a DUN connection using that USB modem. The number should be *99# and make sure to add this line as extra init options:
ATZ+CGDCONT=1,"IP","ISP.CINGULAR"
For Bluetooth, first you need to install the latest Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows. Don't use the microsoft one. Then just set up a BT Dun connection with the same settings.
Hope that helps...
i've seen a lot of posts about this subject and i'm clueless, now i read the thread form the link provided above and it helps a little, but were do look on my phone to find out what i have? also for at&t users, what's the difference between media max 200, the 19.99 plan and the data connect 39.99 plan, i know the text messaging etc and both are unlimited data, and you "can't" use media max w/a tilt even i've heard you can, but in terms of using the internet and surfing the web what's the difference. Thanks
eras2r said:
cincy1020
Well here's the deal for GPRS. You do not need PDANet. So give your license to someone who is still on CDMA somewhere. You first need to install the driver for the HTC Kaiser/Tilt as a USB Modem. A few forum searches will find the inf to install in windows. Then you simply set up a DUN connection using that USB modem. The number should be *99# and make sure to add this line as extra init options:
ATZ+CGDCONT=1,"IP","ISP.CINGULAR"
For Bluetooth, first you need to install the latest Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows. Don't use the microsoft one. Then just set up a BT Dun connection with the same settings.
Hope that helps...
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Hi:
Thanks for the reply. I already have WModem installed by default. Is this the same thing?
Thanks!
Just use internet sharing. No need to configure a dialup modem/etc.
brainlb,
There doesn't seem to be much difference between the two plans you mentioned. I spoke to AT&T about this and they told me since I have a PDA phone I need the PDA connect plans and according to their system the MediaMax 200 is not compatible with my phone. However, a few people in the forums said they are using the MediaMax 200 plan without any problems. I may try this one day but not sure as yet.
so were on my phone do i look to find out whether i have .wap or .isp, or something else? Thanks
SORRY TO THREAD JACK BUT,
I JUST WANT LIVE UPDATES ON MY PHONE, MOSTLY WEATHER ON MY BACKGROUND. WOULD I NEED THIS?
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph....jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku950103&catId=cat1510009
OR COULD GET A SMALLER DATA PLAN AND UPDATE EVERYTHING WHEN I CONNECT. WHAT IS THE BEST PLAN WITHOUT TETHERING?
Technically its supposed to be a PDA plan for our phones, However, I added the following plan to my sons phone and its been fine .. He doesn't pull tons of data so it hasn't flagged anything. If you don't need text messaging included then I'd look at the following:
Smartphone Connect Unlimited $19.99
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku1040059&catId=cat1510009
I chose that over the MEdiaNet plan as I figured it would cause less suspicion with the data being used.
PsyOpWarlord said:
Technically its supposed to be a PDA plan for our phones, However, I added the following plan to my sons phone and its been fine .. He doesn't pull tons of data so it hasn't flagged anything. If you don't need text messaging included then I'd look at the following:
Smartphone Connect Unlimited $19.99
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku1040059&catId=cat1510009
I chose that over the MEdiaNet plan as I figured it would cause less suspicion with the data being used.
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THAT PLAN SAYS YOU ARE CHARGED FOR THE DATA YOU SEND AND REVIEVE. WHAT IS MEANT BY DATA SENT AND REVIEVED?, DOES THAT MEAN DOWNLOAD, AS IN RINGTONES?
I JUST TALKED WITH A REP FROM AT&T. THEY TOLD ME THE SMARTPHONE CONNECT UNLIMITED ISN'T FOR THE TILT. ( <AS STATED BY WARLOARD, WHAT PHONE DOES YOU SON HAVE? )
CAN I GET THAT ON MY TILT ANYWAY, AND GET A FAMILY TEXTING PLAN
LIKE THIS, THEN I SHOULD HAVE UNLIMITED DATA AND MY WHOLE FAMILY HAS TEXTING.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph....jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku980095&catId=cat1470003
I have a Tilt and am on a unlimited data plan. Now there is a legal way to tether that Att doesn't tell you about. Current plans selling at the ATT stores have PDA MEdia Connect with messaging. Starting at 39.99 and goes up from there with some referring to tethering. if you do not have a tethering plan you cannot connect to isp.cingular or suppose to. I called up ATT about a issue I had with VOIP needing to access a full internet instead of a wap.cingular proxy internet cause I was on the PDA Media Conenct plan. That how I found out about another plan called PDA Connect Unlimited for 39.99 without messaging that allows wap.cingular and isp.cingular connections. The ATT rep stated as long as you are authorized to connect to isp.cingular you can tether.
Savage Life said:
I JUST TALKED WITH A REP FROM AT&T. THEY TOLD ME THE SMARTPHONE CONNECT UNLIMITED ISN'T FOR THE TILT. ( <AS STATED BY WARLOARD, WHAT PHONE DOES YOU SON HAVE? )
CAN I GET THAT ON MY TILT ANYWAY, AND GET A FAMILY TEXTING PLAN
LIKE THIS, THEN I SHOULD HAVE UNLIMITED DATA AND MY WHOLE FAMILY HAS TEXTING.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph....jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku980095&catId=cat1470003
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Correct most Reps will not add it as they know its not the proper plan. However you can add it yourself in most instances without going thru CS by logging into your ATT online account manager and going to Phone/Device and Add/Remove Features.
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I have a Tilt and am on a unlimited data plan. Now there is a legal way to tether that Att doesn't tell you about. Current plans selling at the ATT stores have PDA MEdia Connect with messaging. Starting at 39.99 and goes up from there with some referring to tethering. if you do not have a tethering plan you cannot connect to isp.cingular or suppose to. I called up ATT about a issue I had with VOIP needing to access a full internet instead of a wap.cingular proxy internet cause I was on the PDA Media Conenct plan. That how I found out about another plan called PDA Connect Unlimited for 39.99 without messaging that allows wap.cingular and isp.cingular connections. The ATT rep stated as long as you are authorized to connect to isp.cingular you can tether.
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The ATT Rep apparently doesn't seem to know what he was talking about which unfortunately happens a lot. They do need to train their CS reps better. Call 5 times and you'll get 4 answers.
First they wrongfully gave you help on VOIP as its against ATTs Wireless Data Services Terms and Conditions:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/plan-terms.jsp
PROHIBITED USES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, USING SERVICES: (I) WITH SERVER DEVICES OR WITH HOST COMPUTER APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, WEB CAMERA POSTS OR BROADCASTS, CONTINUOUS JPEG FILE TRANSFERS, AUTOMATIC DATA FEEDS, TELEMETRY APPLICATIONS, PEER-TO-PEER (P2P) FILE SHARING, AUTOMATED FUNCTIONS OR ANY OTHER MACHINE-TO-MACHINE APPLICATIONS; (II) AS SUBSTITUTE OR BACKUP FOR PRIVATE LINES OR DEDICATED DATA CONNECTIONS; (III) FOR VOICE OVER IP; .....<rest snipped for brevity>....
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And for tethering:
FURTHERMORE, PLANS (UNLESS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR TETHERING USAGE) CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY APPLICATIONS THAT TETHER THE DEVICE (THROUGH USE OF, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, CONNECTION KITS, OTHER PHONE/PDA-TO-COMPUTER ACCESSORIES, BLUETOOTH® OR ANY OTHER WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY) TO LAPTOPS, PCS, OR OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR ANY PURPOSE.
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The CS Rep was correct that if you tether with a handset your supposed to use the isp.cingular APN (or else you'll incur additional data charges) but just because your provisioned to use that APN doesn't automatically mean your authorized to tether without being on a tethering plan. For instance I have the PDA Connect Unlimited plan which include the isp.cingular APN (unlike the PDA Max plans) and I can tell you tethering is not allowed. I've been thru 3 levels of data services support (business/premier support is a lot more trained) on this subject confirming the differences in plans doing research for the ATT forums under the username "Planet-Ed" helping others and working with the moderators their.
Beat em at their own game
ecltech said:
Just use internet sharing. No need to configure a dialup modem/etc.
brainlb,
There doesn't seem to be much difference between the two plans you mentioned. I spoke to AT&T about this and they told me since I have a PDA phone I need the PDA connect plans and according to their system the MediaMax 200 is not compatible with my phone. However, a few people in the forums said they are using the MediaMax 200 plan without any problems. I may try this one day but not sure as yet.
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Looking at a few of the posts here, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents...don't know anything about the tethering, no need for it. As far as the different plans go, if you get an answer u don't like, just call 'em right back up. After I originally got the tilt back in Oct, the cheapest was the bbconnect, which the rep signed me up for, then couldnt tell me how to set it up and ended up taking it off.
you CAN sign up for a couple of the media max/smartphone connect plans on their website, but run the risk of getting charged down the line because those aren't technically data plans, can't remember the exact wording they gave, but not legal for the tilt or other devices which have full keyboards (PDA)...anyways, after about the 3rd call into the reps to get info, one of their geniuses signed me up for the media max unlimited plan w/ 200 messages for $20...he wasn't educated enough to know that it isn't supposed to be used w/ the tilt. The way I see it, they can't go back and overcharge me for being on the wrong plan if THEY signed me up for it...just work the system and use their stupidity for your benefit
potpeye said:
I have a Tilt and am on a unlimited data plan. Now there is a legal way to tether that Att doesn't tell you about. Current plans selling at the ATT stores have PDA MEdia Connect with messaging. Starting at 39.99 and goes up from there with some referring to tethering. if you do not have a tethering plan you cannot connect to isp.cingular or suppose to. I called up ATT about a issue I had with VOIP needing to access a full internet instead of a wap.cingular proxy internet cause I was on the PDA Media Conenct plan. That how I found out about another plan called PDA Connect Unlimited for 39.99 without messaging that allows wap.cingular and isp.cingular connections. The ATT rep stated as long as you are authorized to connect to isp.cingular you can tether.
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Hi:
I am on a PDA unlimited data plan. Can you please tell me what settings you used to setup isp.cingular?
Thanks!
PS: I have searched and searched for the settings, and although I'm sure they are on xda, my search results sure didn't lead me to them.
EDIT: Although I was unable to find the info on XDA. I did find it elsewhere, I haven't yet tried them to see if they work properly, but if not, I guess I will have to spend hours on the fount with tech support to get the correct ones, lol. I will post the settings here just in case anyone needs them:
Under settings/connections/connections:
Look for MY ISP and tap on "add a new modem connection"
Enter a Name for the connection: REAL ISP or something like that
Select a Modem: cellular line (GPRS) for 8125/ cellular line (GPRS 3G) for 8525
use the access point name isp.cingular
On the next page, enter either ISP.CINGULARGPRS.COM or [email protected] (either will work) for username and CINGULAR1 for password (make sure they are all in caps)
Leave Domain name blank
Under advanced, make sure the only things selected are "Use server assigned IP address" and "Use IP header compression" - leave everything else unselected.
Click ok and then finish
PsyOpWarlord said:
And for tethering:
The CS Rep was correct that if you tether with a handset your supposed to use the isp.cingular APN (or else you'll incur additional data charges) but just because your provisioned to use that APN doesn't automatically mean your authorized to tether without being on a tethering plan. For instance I have the PDA Connect Unlimited plan which include the isp.cingular APN (unlike the PDA Max plans) and I can tell you tethering is not allowed. I've been thru 3 levels of data services support (business/premier support is a lot more trained) on this subject confirming the differences in plans doing research for the ATT forums under the username "Planet-Ed" helping others and working with the moderators their.
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So do you happen to know if there IS a plan where tethering is allowed? I also have the PDA Connect Unlimited, and can tether, but don't want to get dinged on my bill so I've been judicious with my use (i.e. emergency only)...
Myabe a better way to ask my question is - how do you get Laptop Connect, do you have to call? It doesn't show up on the website, as I have a family plan - does it need to be a business plan? ugh...
Greetings everyone,
Is it possible to use the Tilt 8925 as a dial-up modem?
I've try the search function, but could not find anything.
I would like to connect my laptop to the phone and use it as a dial up modem. I was able to do that with my Nokia N70....and that phone is 4 years old. I would be surprise if a more advance phone (Tilt 8925) was unable to perform the said function.
Thanks
Yes you can use it as a modem, you can also connect it to your laptop using "Internet Sharing" Which I think is the better method, I get 1700kbps with it.
Thongvilay said:
Yes you can use it as a modem, you can also connect it to your laptop using "Internet Sharing" Which I think is the better method, I get 1700kbps with it.
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What are your settings?
I've tried USB and Bluetooth PAn as the "PC connection"
and My Connection 1 as the "Network Connection".
I clicked on the "connect button" in the internet sharing and nothing is happening.
It's dialing the dial up number using Celluar line. But it's not connecting at all. I get " Cannot Connect" widow with the following: The remote party has ended this connection.
Thanks
Install ICS if you have a tilt.. There is a cab floating around for it that is easy to use. Once it is in, it'll show up as a network connection in Winblows and work for bluetooth PAN.
According to what he said just above he already has it. I guess the connection settings must be wrong though. If you connect your "my connection 1" with the phone, can you get internet access on the phone itself?
I had the exact same problem, with ICS saying that the connection was denied by a third party. More specifically it was WMWifirouter trying to use ICS to bind my data connection to my wificard to create a wireless hot spot out of my phone (which is the coolest program I have ever used on my tilt).
Anyway, I fixed it by opening ICS and changing the Network Connection. I have ATT and they use 2 different connections. One is if you paid for tethering (AT&T ISP GPRS), the other is your data connection (MEdia Net). I am not 100% sure if this is the case, but it is my best guess.
I changed it from ATT ISP to MEdia Net, and it started working, because I presume, due to the fact that I do not have tethering on my data plan.
I am not sure if the carrier can detect I made this change, and somehow know to charge me the extra tethering charge. As far as they know I do not even have access to the ICS application..so we'll see.
So look in your ICS and see if your carrier uses more than one connection.
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According to what he said just above he already has it. I guess the connection settings must be wrong though. If you connect your "my connection 1" with the phone, can you get internet access on the phone itself?
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I dont have internet connection on the phone itself. I dont have any data plan. My provider is T-Mobile. Am I required to purchase the data plan before I can use the dial-up internet/ share internet feature?
I know on my NOkia N70 all I had was the basic wireless plan (39.99 from T-mobile) and was able to connect using dial up. I would connect my Nokia N70 to my laptop via USB or Bluetooth. Click the dial-up icon on my laptop. It would dial my local ISP provider...and connect.
khaytsus said:
Install ICS if you have a tilt.. There is a cab floating around for it that is easy to use. Once it is in, it'll show up as a network connection in Winblows and work for bluetooth PAN.
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I have this install...but still is not working.
Thanks for the input.
I think my setting are off.....but do not know how to correct it.
OK, it seems you actually want to do it the "old way" and have the phone dial a phone number to connect like a 56k modem... but in 9.6k here through GSM
There are 2 ways to do this, one where the phone has the connection and shares it with ICS (create a new connection on the phone, through cellular line, add number) which seems to be what you tried first and as I said would allow you to have the net on the phone itself too, which is why I was asking if that was working in the first place before going into the sharing thing.
Or, the second which must be more like what you had with the Nokia, where the phone is just a modem and all connection settings are on the PC. As you're having trouble with the first one, lets try the second one:
If you want your modem to work via the USB cable:
Settings -> Connections -> wireless modem, select USB, menu-> APN setting -> remove the tick ->done -> menu -> start.
THEN plug the USB port, the PC should find a serial port to which a modem is attached.
Or via Bluetooth:
Just pair your phone to the PC via BT, then on the PC go and browse the services on the phone where you should find "dial-up networking". Now it depends on your PC's BT stack, but on mine I would double-click on that, which would firstly install a bluetooth modem, then open a dialog where I can enter the phone number to dial. I'd then have a usual modem connection in the PC's control panel->connections folder.
But with that you won't be able to take advantage of the new ways to transfer data over the network and their incredibly higher speeds. Granted you won't need a data plan and will just pay like a regular call, but you'll be having a very slow connection. Which is why barely anybody ever uses that anymore and we didn't get it.
To take advantage of EDGE, 3G, HSDPA, you need a real packet data connection instead of a call, which in turn requires either a data plan or that you pay just the standard volume price for data.
um you all are making this a one big issue....no offense...wmwifirouter and a bluetooth dongle for your pc...nuff said
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t-mobile internet sharing
i have a problem using my tilt as a modem as well, I also don't have a data plan, i use T-Mobile's 5.99 plan, can i use internet sharing with this plan? if so what do i need to do? thanks
Ok, for one I think you have to have a data plan for it to work, otherwise you will wind up with serious data charges ( in excess of 3-500 $ have been reported )
Back in the day you could use the voice side and dial out to aol or the likes, but im sure that cant be done anymore. ( I hope this isnt what youre asking about )
There are other alternatives to ICS built into the phone. Using bluetooth you can "tether" the computer to the phone and dial an access string. this is done by using a generic bluetooth serial port for data communications. Basically once your phone is paired, you should be able to go to the computer and set up a new connection using the serial port that was created when you paired. Then you will need the phone number, user name , and password for your provider. For ATT, I know you can still use "[email protected]" for the user name and "CINGULAR1" for the password. The APN ( or dial string) can be a few different things. Ive used apn.cingular.com on my WM phones as the phone number to dial, and also *99# as the number to dial. If you research your cellular carrier you will find the dial strings, user names, and passwords for them through google.
JUST REMEMBER THIS IS DATA INTENSIVE!!!!!!!
I hope this info helps a tad.
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Just found this. Looks helpful for T-Mobile
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/GSM_tethering_with_Windows_XP
pyraxiate said:
Ok, for one I think you have to have a data plan for it to work, otherwise you will wind up with serious data charges ( in excess of 3-500 $ have been reported )
Back in the day you could use the voice side and dial out to aol or the likes, but im sure that cant be done anymore. ( I hope this isnt what youre asking about )
There are other alternatives to ICS built into the phone. Using bluetooth you can "tether" the computer to the phone and dial an access string. this is done by using a generic bluetooth serial port for data communications. Basically once your phone is paired, you should be able to go to the computer and set up a new connection using the serial port that was created when you paired. Then you will need the phone number, user name , and password for your provider. For ATT, I know you can still use "[email protected]" for the user name and "CINGULAR1" for the password. The APN ( or dial string) can be a few different things. Ive used apn.cingular.com on my WM phones as the phone number to dial, and also *99# as the number to dial. If you research your cellular carrier you will find the dial strings, user names, and passwords for them through google.
JUST REMEMBER THIS IS DATA INTENSIVE!!!!!!!
I hope this info helps a tad.
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Just found this. Looks helpful for T-Mobile
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/GSM_tethering_with_Windows_XP[/QUO
i am still a little confused, i dont think t-mobile works the same way At&t does it does not charge by data use, i just want to know if it will work with the 5.99 plan, if there is a way to manipulate the phone the same way i use a proxy setting to connect to the internet?
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ljinsane said:
um you all are making this a one big issue....no offense...wmwifirouter and a bluetooth dongle for your pc...nuff said
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This reply is just not contributing in any way! Why not just help others out? This reply shows that you have no idea at all of the goal of this question!
I’m here on the coast at Keesler Air Force base. There is no internet to speak of and I do not want to spend roughly $1,400 to obtain it through a Cell provider for my laptop. I setup the Internet Sharing on my TILT and it works somewhat. Well, I lied. It stays “connected” however the damn thing peers off and the laptop continuously loses connectivity.
I only use Skype and sometimes webmail with the Internet Sharing and it cannot handle it. Every minute, sometimes up to six minutes, Skype videocalls and standard webcalls are dropped and I test the internet connection to see that it’s timing out for another minute or so and then it magically reappears.
I closed all applications and the antivirus crap to ensure that there was no extra throughput bandwidth. Anyway, I’m about to lose my damn mind here because I cannot stay in contact with my fiancée who’s on the other side of the globe right now.
According to the phone I’m only getting the Edge network and that makes sense as there are not 3G towers nearby. The signal continually shifts from two bars to four bars. I have used the Kraiser Tweak to enable HDSPA but that service is not being picked up.
Any ideas as to how I can keep the connectivity from dropping between the cellphone and the laptop? I assume that’s the issue as the phone stays “Status: connected” within the Internet Sharing application.
If it matters, I can only use the "Media Net" option under Network Connections. Media Net utilizes the wap.cingular access point.
I have tried to use the "ATT ISP GPRS" option but it continually loops through attempts to connect to the internet. Eventually it gives up without any success. The ATT ISP GPRS uses the isp.cingular access point.
Please any assistance would be most appreciated. This United States Airman is about to lose is frigging mind over the fact that he can’t communicate with anyone any longer. Ugh!!!
Thanks to any thoughts and advice to better my situation...
Oh and for the record, if it isn't understood being a Tilt, my provider is ATT.
HSDPA will not work without 3G service. MEdia Net is the best way to tether, I use it all the time. Make sure the proxy option is unchecked, or you will get very poor speeds and high latency.
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
crypted said:
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
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You mentioned HSDPA, so that's why I said it. As for ATT ISP GPRS, you do not want to use that unless you have a modem tethering option on your AT&T account. If you go under MEdia Net settings, and then check the Proxy tab, make sure the proxy option is unchecked.
Allrighty, I've confirmed that the Proxy is not enabled. The only thing on the Proxy option section that is enabled is the first option where it says this network connects to the internet.
Any ideas on stabilizing internet on a 2 - 3 bar Edge network? If I do more than one task (more than one website OR a website and Skype) the internet gets lost quite easily...
Thanks a lot man.
Wow when I was over that way I dont recall have any issues with ATT and internet. When I access the net while tethered I use the ATT program that connects via laptop... Its not the internet sharing program.... Its called ATT Communication Manager... It may read as being tethered so if you dont have tethering on your plan then I dont know if id use it. If you have tethering it works great for me. Heres a link for the download...
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt
You might want to try flashing another rom and radio. I remember I had an issue similar to this with my hermes from ATT. Swapping to another radio can definitely boost your signal quality. If your signal drops too low even for a second, it can cause major latency issues on the edge network( which WILL cause skype to dop a call ) . I recommend trying a ROM that already has a radio packaged in with it to save you the trouble of having to match a radio to a rom. Also look for one that has the network configuration cab built in so it can automatically set up your Connection settings for you.
Hope this helps
Allrighty... I don't have much time to research ROMS or RADIOS unfortunately. Any suggestions on where to find them, or what I might use? I'd almost prefer just to change RADIOS so long as I can find the original RADIO to replace any changes back to what I was using...
Currently, I have:
ROM 1.62.502.0
RADIO 1.27.14.09
Any help to further this US Airman along would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Hey guys, I am not sure how this works, but technically it should be doable.
I know with the iphone, you can sync it with you computer to make it a modem for the internet, just wonder how do I do it for my X1?
Obviously, I know how to do it with being charged by my network provider, but I don't wanna do it. So basically, I want to find a way that I can sycn my X1 with my laptop, so I get to use the Internet on my laptop via my X1 without paying anything extra. (my mobile contract comes with a unlimited web data plan)
Hope I am making some sense.
Thanks a lot
First things first, You've posted in the wrong forum, this should have been in the general section.
Secondly if you' d done a search you would have found the answer.
But anyway, it's very simple: Plug the phone in via USB open up your programs on the phone, scroll down to the one called 'Internet sharing' press and follow the instructions.
You PC (If it's windows) should ask you if you want to use the new connection, and off you go
Thanks, but I know how to do this with paying extra to my network provider, but I know there is a way of doing it without paying extra.
P the Photographer said:
Thanks, but I know how to do this with paying extra to my network provider, but I know there is a way of doing it without paying extra.
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Huh? You have stated that you have an unlimited data package with your cellphone provider.
Hence if you use this method they will not charge you as it's using the phone as a modem over it's own 3G network.
U sure? coz when I took out the phone, I asked the very same question, and I was told if I use the data on my phone, then it is unlimited access, but if I link it with a computer, they will be able to tell as it will show the data is through a computer not the handset, and they will charge me certain amount per MB. I take it you are in the UK with O2? Coz I am the same.
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Huh? You have stated that you have an unlimited data package with your cellphone provider.
Hence if you use this method they will not charge you as it's using the phone as a modem over it's own 3G network.
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Yeah, I am a little bit confused too... but probably I need some clarifications: you want that your pc shares Internet with your X1 or the opposite?
I mean, which device has the internet connection you want to share, your laptop or your X1?
EDIT: uhm, after your 6:57 post I am more confused than before. I actually do not think they can tell which device is using the data downloaded by your X1... however, this is my opinion.
in my program menu i have an icon called "condivisione internet", i think that in english will appear as "internet sharing". from this menu you can start the internet connection and share it by the usb cable or bluetooth.
i also install a program called WMWifiRouter, that transform my x1 in a wi-fi router and use the wi-fi connection to share the internet.
one thing....iphone doesn't have an official modem driver, you have to jailbreak it and install a third part application
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i also install a program called WMWifiRouter, that transform my x1 in a wi-fi router and use the wi-fi connection to share the internet.
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WMWiFirouter rulez !!
I even removed my ADSL contracts and am using the Xperia's HSDPA connection at home and office - amazing speed and flawless connection
Impressive
NO WAY you can do this with an iPhone or T-MO G1
I love this phone a bit more everyday
I want to cut the internet on my computer so I can use the package I get from my X1 on both my laptop and X1 itself. Trying to save some money I am. I see what you guys are saying, but as I said, I was told by O2 if use my X1 as a modem for my laptop, then I will be charged on a MB basis, which is extremely expensive. They specifically told me they can tell when and what sites I have been on using whether my phone or on a computer. Which I think it makes sense in a way, coz otherwise, everyone would be cutting off their Internet at home and start using their mobiles as modems (if they have as nice phone as ours). Unless all these from O2 is a bluff.
So did my friend do some dodgy thing to make his iphone Internet works on his computer then?
Sorry guy if I am confusing the matter as I am confused myself, any further help greatly appreciated. And do forgiver my English!
PS - Would this work with my Mac? I don't have a PC, I could buy the MissSync, but not sure how good it will work and quite expensive.
Maybe your "unlimited data plan" on your phone is about wap traffic? Than O2 is right and you are gonna pay a lot for the regular shared net connection. Check this with them.
Just my opinion!
Well I think the simplest way to sort this is do a test.
Just use the shared internet connection facility for a couple of days then stop.
If your next bill comes with a charge attached then they are right, if not they are talking BS and you can carry on.
p.s. I'd like to know if this is true as well as i'm with O2
Better for a couple of minutes! Using a internet connection w/out a data plan will dry his pocket out as a day in Sahara. Don't try this at home!
WMWifirouter is definitely worth a try.
With T-mobile I've got unlimited data on the phone, but it does not permit tethering (using the connection for a laptop or other computer), but with WMWifirouter, it routes it through a program on the phone, so it can be shared.
Brilliant bit of software, worth paying for, even if just for emergencies (e.g. at a friend's house, they have no internet but have laptop, and you want to show them a stupid youtube video... it's serious stuff).
unlimited data plan is not real unlimited, its just enough to last a month with on your phone.
btw phone companies are bluffing because they also say they can see if you are calling via skype instead of the normal cellular radio....
DavidMc0 said:
WMWifirouter is definitely worth a try.
With T-mobile I've got unlimited data on the phone, but it does not permit tethering (using the connection for a laptop or other computer), but with WMWifirouter, it routes it through a program on the phone, so it can be shared.
Brilliant bit of software, worth paying for, even if just for emergencies (e.g. at a friend's house, they have no internet but have laptop, and you want to show them a stupid youtube video... it's serious stuff).
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If you use tmobile in the UK, I would imagine your unlimited data would be similar to mine since they are both in the UK.
I guess I will give the WMWifirouter a good and see what will happen if I get on the Internet for a few mintues and maybe increase my time bit by bit...
Thanks for all the replies and sure will keep you guys updated with the results, if my X1 doesn't sell on ebay. Nothing wrong with that, just being a Mac computer person and having a WiMo is a little... weird... but don't jump on me, I love the X1 and it's great!!!!
Hi there,
Connect your laptop to the X1 with a USB cable. Start the computer.
Tap
Start > Programs > Tools > Internet Sharing.
Select USB & Contract Internet then Tap connect at the bottom of the screen.
Open your browser and it should be working. You need a very good mobile signal to get any speed out of it.
Hope this helps.
Is there any way to use my PC internet connection on my X1i with Bluetooth?
i'm sure there is
all the best
my home broadband was down for a week a few days ago. used my x1 using the internet connection sharing app. for it to work i had to remove the ethernet cable from the pc. but once i did it was fine.
and voda didnt charge me anything as i have the unlimited internet included.
problem was i dont like in a 3g area so it was back to 8kb/s speeds. pain, but a lot better than nothing!
---ronin. in the internet sharing application there is an option to connect via bluetooth. try that.
thanks James but i've already tried that but i couldn't manage it
actually when i select Bluetooth pan then i should select a network but there is no network connection to select
can any body help me find a solution?
all the best
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