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New WM6/Tilt user, please help!

Hello-
I'm new to Windows Mobile (I've been on Palm OS for at least 5 years) and I have AT&T Tilt (8925).
I've been playing around with it for a while, and there's still some things I have questions on-
1)How do I complete remove some programs that I do not want and don't appear under "Remove Programs"? I know they're located in the Windows folder, but I get a Error 5 whenever I try to delete them- I think they're read-only or something...
2) I'm also having problems with the GPS receiver. At times it will work great, acquiring a signal in seconds, and other times it won't work at all, searching for a long time to find nothing. I use Live Search and Google Maps and have the same problem with both.. Any ideas?
3) Coming from Palm OS, I'm used to text messages coming up in a view. Is there a way to change that?
4) I modified my PTT button to work as any program. Is there a specific registry key I can set it to so that it acts as a power button?
5) I use gmail and I'm using their IMAP service. Some of my messages are appearing blank when downloaded. Was I supposed to change settings or something? Why does it only work for some and not others?
6) And last but not least, does anybody have any good mod/util programs to recommend?
Thanks for your help

Also,
7) Does anyone know how to disable the sound on the 3G launch screen when the device reboots?

I havent got too many answers to your questions, but this would be a sart at least.
KaiserTweak has many necessary customizations (but I dont think it addresses most of your questions.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
The apps you want to remove sounds like the Cingular built-in ones. In that case you can avoid installing them by doing a hard reset, and rebooting before it installs the carrier customizations.
This article gives a step by step howto.
http://tiltsite.com/2007/10/how-to-beat-the-bloat-on-your-att-tilt/
Also this page was useful in getting my GPS problems sorted out. The GPSTEST software seemed to cure the problem all by itself (and its freeware)
http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Surur

Yeah, I've got KaiserTweak already, I love it.
In terms of the "bloatware", that is indeed what I want to remove, but there's also some that I want to keep... Is there a way to remove programs that arent in "Remove Programs"?

Not AFAIK, but the actual AT&T apps are available as a separate cab in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438
Unfortunately they are still bundled together, but at leas they can be cleanly uninstalled.
Surur

PTK8ofBH said:
Yeah, I've got KaiserTweak already, I love it.
In terms of the "bloatware", that is indeed what I want to remove, but there's also some that I want to keep... Is there a way to remove programs that arent in "Remove Programs"?
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Even after bypassing the bloatware install, the CAB files should still be on the device for you to install them on your own. Might take a bit of digging to find the proper ones and you may need something like Resco Explorer, or Total Commander to "see" them. I think the built in file explorer hides some of the system files, but I couldn't tell you much more than that.

Thanks. The GPS Fix doesn't seem to do much- am I missing something?

PTK8ofBH said:
Thanks. The GPS Fix doesn't seem to do much- am I missing something?
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Are you able to run it. You should be able to use it to test the function of your GPS device, and find out what port it uses etc. Its a smartphone program, so you have to use it using the keys, not the touch screen.
Surur

It seems to help and it's definately a very useful app. I'll let you know if my problems persist.
Does anyone have any ideas on the other issues I'm having?

Sorry if this is a stupid question!

I am quite new to ROM flashing, but have been successful and am now able to do it with no problems.
My question is simple:-
Could some someone please define the word TILT in the following sentance.
"Tilt owners, install additional cabs"
I though that all Keizer's were Tilt devices, or am I wrong? How do I know if I am a Tilt owner?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.
Ed

EddyStone said:
I am quite new to ROM flashing, but have been successful and am now able to do it with no problems.
My question is simple:-
Could some someone please define the word TILT in the following sentance.
"Tilt owners, install additional cabs"
I though that all Keizer's were Tilt devices, or am I wrong? How do I know if I am a Tilt owner?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.
Ed
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tilt is a name for at&t branded kaiser

Ahh!!
Many thanks for that.
It's one of those small iritating questions than has been bubbling for a while.
Ed

EddyStone said:
I am quite new to ROM flashing, but have been successful and am now able to do it with no problems.
My question is simple:-
Could some someone please define the word TILT in the following sentance.
"Tilt owners, install additional cabs"
I though that all Keizer's were Tilt devices, or am I wrong? How do I know if I am a Tilt owner?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.
Ed
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Yup its a stupid question alright. Naw just playing.
The Tilt is A "Kaiser" Per se but a Kaiser is not a Tilt. you know like a rectangle is a square but a square is not a rectangle.
Functionally they are the same however, the keyboard appears different, hence the need for the Keyboard Fix cab and there is no Video call Camera in the front. Oh and there is the unbearable need to have AT&T as a carrier.

And it would appear... slower roms too...

unwired4 said:
And it would appear... slower roms too...
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I really don't have a problem, once the bloatware is removed that is. At least its very easy to remove AT&T bloatware completely on a Tilt. No need to flash to get rid of it.
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
I really don't have a problem, once the bloatware is removed that is. At least its very easy to remove AT&T bloatware completely on a Tilt. No need to flash to get rid of it.
-Jay
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Hey how do you remove the bloatware on the tilt? and if you do will it remove all you phone settings? i mean like the phone # programation and all that stuff? will i have to take it to att to get it program again?... sorry if this is a stupid question also

IcOpRo said:
Hey how do you remove the bloatware on the tilt? and if you do will it remove all you phone settings? i mean like the phone # programation and all that stuff? will i have to take it to att to get it program again?... sorry if this is a stupid question also
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Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay

Hey Jay thanks for the advice on getting rid of att's softwares. I notice on your icon that you have TOM TOM running as your GPS program. I have TOMTOM also however my is cracked and the version is 6.010. When I first installed it, searching for satellite was fairly fast. Now, it takes forever. Any idea on what happened? Thanks

lamson said:
Hey Jay thanks for the advice on getting rid of att's softwares. I notice on your icon that you have TOM TOM running as your GPS program. I have TOMTOM also however my is cracked and the version is 6.010. When I first installed it, searching for satellite was fairly fast. Now, it takes forever. Any idea on what happened? Thanks
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Sounds like your quick GPS files need updating. I have mine set to auto download when necessary. Go to Start--> Programs --> Quick GPS. The icon looks like a satellite dish. Click Download. When your download is complete click Menu--> Options. Make sure "Autodownload when data expires" is checked.
-Jay

Is it possible when I open storage card
it opens directly to Bottom of the List
Does anyone know How to ?

Jay2TheRescue said:
Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
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Jay,
Thanks for that. Made it really easy to get rid of it. I've been lurking for a couple days and your post made me register. Hoping to learn alot since I just got my Tilt two days ago and want to mod it.

brrymnvette said:
Jay,
Thanks for that. Made it really easy to get rid of it. I've been lurking for a couple days and your post made me register. Hoping to learn alot since I just got my Tilt two days ago and want to mod it.
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What Two Days And you haven't Flashed yet? That's too long! I flashed mine First day!

Jay2TheRescue said:
Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
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Hello
Do you have a List of all that is in the AT&T Bloatware ?
Cos I did not do like u have said & have had my phone since Nov
But now i have so much Installed on my Phone & more Imp is all my contacts
& just redo all my conts will take me more than a month
I do have it on sprite back up
But if i do like u said & run sprite backup wont i get all the Bloatware back on too ?
What do you suggest i do ?
Thanks for your Help

ilordvader said:
Hello
Do you have a List of all that is in the AT&T Bloatware ?
Cos I did not do like u have said & have had my phone since Nov
But now i have so much Installed on my Phone & more Imp is all my contacts
& just redo all my conts will take me more than a month
I do have it on sprite back up
But if i do like u said & run sprite backup wont i get all the Bloatware back on too ?
What do you suggest i do ?
Thanks for your Help
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No, I don't have a list of everything the bloatware install ads, hides, or otherwise changes. I know Internet connection sharing is hidden and replaced with the AT&T dialer application. Then there's all the 30 second trial versions of the games that are gone as well.
After you remove the bloatware all the cabs for the bloatware are in the windows directory. If there's anything missing like Cingular Video, or anything else like that, that you can't live without just run the appropriate *.cab file and install it. I prefer this way as you can selectively install just what you want, and leave out the rest.
-Jay

JimmyMcGee said:
What Two Days And you haven't Flashed yet? That's too long! I flashed mine First day!
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LOL, I've had mine since November and I haven't flashed yet. I haven't found a need to so far. I am heavily tweaked and modded though... I've been thinking about flashing, but I generally don't flash a device until my warranty expires, but that's just me. I think the only exception was with my classic model V3. I think I flashed that phone the day I got it to remove the Cingular crap. It was not necessary to flash the Tilt to remove the AT&T crap, so I haven't flashed ... yet.
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
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Hey thanks alot Jay .. ill try it sounds easy i just wanted to make sure that after that my phone number i mean my phone line , my gps, and mi internet will still work after that ...

IcOpRo said:
Hey thanks alot Jay .. ill try it sounds easy i just wanted to make sure that after that my phone number i mean my phone line , my gps, and mi internet will still work after that ...
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Yeah, mine still worked. Just the crap is gone. Remember you will have to reinstall everything, and setup your device again, so make sure you have all that stuff ready. Its a good idea to keep all of your cabs in a folder on your storage card so you don't have to look for that stuff when you hard reset.
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
Yeah, mine still worked. Just the crap is gone. Remember you will have to reinstall everything, and setup your device again, so make sure you have all that stuff ready. Its a good idea to keep all of your cabs in a folder on your storage card so you don't have to look for that stuff when you hard reset.
-Jay
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Thanks a lot jay i did it and i really like the way my phone is working now.. put all my mods on it , i really like the htc factory setup rader than the Att one... now i just need o fin a way to post my tday screen on the forums i want 2 do that.

IcOpRo said:
Thanks a lot jay i did it and i really like the way my phone is working now.. put all my mods on it , i really like the htc factory setup rader than the Att one... now i just need o fin a way to post my tday screen on the forums i want 2 do that.
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I downloaded a screen capture utility. Google it. There's lots of them out there as shareware or freeware.
-Jay

Theft Alert

Just found this new application, seems to do the same that WIMP does
and more.
I haven't tried it yet, but looks promising:
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs.html
Of course, for maximum security it would need to be cooked into the ROM.

That seems to be made for kaiser. I just wonder how it can be removed from the device if desired?

bengalih said:
Of course, for maximum security it would need to be cooked into the ROM.
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agreed - otherwise the theif will just hard reset the device :S

BenOggo said:
That seems to be made for kaiser. I just wonder how it can be removed from the device if desired?
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I haven't tried it yet, but you probably just go run an EXE in the program folder and enter an unlock code and it uninstalls.

bengalih said:
I haven't tried it yet, but you probably just go run an EXE in the program folder and enter an unlock code and it uninstalls.
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Correct, you re-run the installation file and it gives you the choice of install / repair / remove.
I've tried it and it seems to be great.
There are two additional plug-ins:
GPS ~ For texting the GPS co-ordinates of your phone.
Monitor ~ Sending out details of the incoming calls to the new sim.
It automatically adds your own sim and you can add a list of numbers you want notified if someone installs a non-approved sim (you can authorise other sims).
The whole lot is password protected, and providing you don't keep the install cab on the phone / SD card, it cannot be uninstalled.
I added my works phone to the notifier list and the 'test' function worked without giving me a sent text notification.
Overall, well worth the money.
IMHO
PS. I also read that OS of WM5 and above protect the program if hard reset ... but I can't confirm this as I wasn't going to HR to find out.

Some time ago the master app was being given for free on this very forum. Those that succeeded in being in the first 5 or so hundred got their copies, myself included.
I also went and purchased the 2 add-ons once I tested the app and fallen in love with it
Even if you leave the .cab on your device you cannot uninstall without the admin password, so never fear.
HOWEVER, in order for the app to survive a HR it really needs to be cooked right into your ROM, or, failing that, you have to do some UC-based magic so it re-installs itself after the HR (and re-customizes itself - otherwise what's the point? - but this calls for provisioning etc.). You can go to its forum section to see how best to proceed about it. Me, I have "just installed" it, without any anti-HR measures. For the time being (fingers crossed!).
Ah yes, for boxes other than Kaiser you can also use the ExtROM...

I am currently somewhat excited by RemoteTracker...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
Am looking forward to playing with it

TomTom Navigator forgetful?

Ive got the L26 v4 rom and used to have the stock at&t rom, both give me the same tomtom navigator problem. MY home is always default when i restart the program, none of my favorites are saved, if i add any personal info its gone the next time i start the program. Gps works great haha. Id just love to save the gps location of me in the porta john at work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TomTom always defaults to your home location, it's intended to, that's just how it works. If you want to change it; feel free, but it'll start wherever you change it to next time too.
And I just checked, I have my typical favorites, no problems that I know of. TomTom behaves almost exactly the way it did on my Treo 680.

khaytsus said:
TomTom always defaults to your home location, it's intended to, that's just how it works. If you want to change it; feel free, but it'll start wherever you change it to next time too.
And I just checked, I have my typical favorites, no problems that I know of. TomTom behaves almost exactly the way it did on my Treo 680.
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No it goes to the default hom elocation of the white house not my house it never saves my home location or favorites. i think i made that clear it forgets everything i put in i cant have favortes or a home address because it acts like the first time i ever started tomtom ITS NOT ROM RELATED
can anyone tell me where tomtom keeps all its userdata maybe its saving in the wrng pace or something cuz it never saves anything

hello. Sounds like you have your poi.dat and a few other files set to read-only. Check the properties of the TomTom folders and ensure that they are not read-only.
Thanks

The GPS settings are stored in "navigator.cfg", while all other settings are stored in "MapSettings.cfg", which is in the map folder. Make sure that none of these two files is read only. Actually, make sure that all TomTom related files are not read only.

am i invisible?

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am i invisible?
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Who said that

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awesome thanks guys that did the trick. now i can save my gps coordinates for slacking off at work haha. Way better answers than IT ALWAYS DOES THAT haha

Just to add, although probably irrelevant now you've sorted it, but for anyone else reading this thread, if you want to remove your home location completely for security or for any other purpose, just delete the file MapSettings.cfg from the map folder on your SD card. It will recreate itself once you run the program again and add or change settings, without a home location, or you can specify a new one. From my experience, it makes itself not Read Only by default.

Tx1oss said:
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there's always one.
Glad to help matey.

bugaveli said:
awesome thanks guys that did the trick. now i can save my gps coordinates for slacking off at work haha. Way better answers than IT ALWAYS DOES THAT haha
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Maybe next time if you actually ask the question the way you later explained it, my answer would have been different. No reason to get pissy over it. Point out to me where my answer was incorrect. No? Didn't think so.

khaytsus said:
Maybe next time if you actually ask the question the way you later explained it, my answer would have been different. No reason to get pissy over it. Point out to me where my answer was incorrect. No? Didn't think so.
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your answeer was wrong because it was clear tht it wouldnt remember anything, not that it always went to my home location its english and a lot of other people uynderstood. Im not pissy, im thrilled if it makes you feel btter your answer was the first response, you get credit for that. then again if someone wouldve posted their abc they ld have been first too.Itll be ok i promise this thread is dead now anyways

bugaveli said:
Id just love to save the gps location of me in the porta john at work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Why would you wanna do that just out of interest? Can you reference it with google maps POI's something like "bugaveli's dump of the week"

No i thought the best place on a jobsite is the porta john therefore gps cordinates are NESSECARY. Hmmmm dump of the week, niiiiice. Thanks for everyones reply!!

ok. i deleted the mapsetting and it worked. now do i delete the navigator as well? or how do i change a file from read only. please explain in english lol. thanks guys

yes delete it all

ben1do1 said:
ok. i deleted the mapsetting and it worked. now do i delete the navigator as well? or how do i change a file from read only. please explain in english lol. thanks guys
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The .cfg file contains Home, favs and recent destinations. Nothing else should require removing.
Re. Read Only: I've found that this issue arises when Tomtom is backed up, and then restored, from a CD / DVD.
Burning the disk sets the attributes to Read Only (IMHO), so the files still retain the Read Only attributes when copied back to the SD card.
There are ways of changing this either on the Kaiser, or on a PC, but my prefered method would be to place the SD card into a reader on the PC, select the card/drive - Right click for properties and unselect the Read Only attributes to all.
Note - Properties can be accessed through mouse right click !

thanks everyone

Suggest a Rom and GUI for me.

OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)

i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!

Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.

hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.

Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.

Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.

No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.

dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.

Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.

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I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.

Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.

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plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda

I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.

I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.

OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.

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difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.