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Suggestion about WM5 versions (Commandant Ivan and TuMa)

I've been testing for three weeks TuMa v1.3 and Ivan's WM5 pda2K_2k5.rar and chosing myself the cabs I wanted to add. I have also tested Ivan's latest versions but I couldn't make the Extended_ROM work properly, I didn't like the splash screen and some minor customization issues so, at the end, I decided to go back to the old WM2k3... shame!
I was happier with Ivan's first version because it's faster and clean.
Though, there's a big problem: Extended ROM is not supported in this version. I would like to ask Commant Ivan if it will be possible to produce a "clean" ROM as v4 R0 JUST with the possibility of having a directory "\Extended_ROM" in the SD Card where we can add the Extended ROM cabs, same as TuMA ver 1.3.
I believe the most important thing is have a clean ROM and to move the Extended ROM to the SD Card. In this way, we can have more room for WM5 in our BA, updates and patches are easier to install but we can also chose the cabs we want to use and personalize our Extended ROMs with OEM programs (as TomTom, utilities, etc)
What do you think, Commandant Ivan and TuMa?
Thank you anyway Ivan and TuMa for your great job with WM5!

I didn't think Ivan's ROM had anything on it on a default install? Just the stuff that comes with WM5 cause Microsoft put it there, and a few driver updates (like the BT Stack.) Maybe when you installed it you setup the autorun to install all the cab packages that come with it. I just ignored these and added them manualy later on.
I've found that although Ivan's ROM is alot cleaner and faster on a fresh install, once I've installed all my software it slows down again even with a overclock, where as with TuMa a fresh install is alittle laggy, but it already has loads of stuff hardcoded into the ROM so with the same overclock it becomes really responsive.
Bearing in mind I've only been testing Ivan's for a couple of days though!
At the moment I'm with Ivan's ROM simply because of a few bug fixes it has over TuMa 1.3. I did at one point go back to WM2003se but after using WM5 for awhile, it just isnt the same.

@Artz
What exactly is the problem with your extended rom ? (Size, errors that occur, etc.)

@ Lt.Cmdr.Ivan
Ivan, I've testing your latest release v4 R1 for the last few hours. I must say I don't have further problems with the Extended ROM issues as I had with previous releases.
Though, I still think that moving the Extended ROM folder (with Autorun support) to a folder in the Storage Card (ie \Storage Card\Extended_ROM) will be a good idea, because:
1.- we can use the full size of the device extended ROM for WM5 programs,
2.- we can use "DOC_Tool_1.0.exe" and "DOC_Restore_1.0.exe" to upgrade and downgrade easily. As you know, these tools work perfect with WM2k3SE and WM5 and they will use all the Extended ROM memory for programs. You don't even need to make visible the extended ROM... so much easier to use than DOC_Repart.
3.- we can cook your own extended ROMs and put in that folder all our favorites cabs so they will be installed automatically after a hard reset (every time I test a new version I have to reinstall manually TomTom and other utilities, which it's really silly when I have 1Gb SD Card)
Something I would like to see also in a next version is to have your "Cert_SPCS_disable.CAB" already included in ROM... In this way, we can use TPDISABLE and TPENABLE.EXE in our config.txt
I realized when you change the value in "Settings", then "Error Reporting" and check "Disable Error Reporting", WM5 won't check digital signatures. I didn't have time to check which value of the Registry is modified doing that. I'm pretty sure it's possible to do this without using XML language (as in the cab "Cert_SPCS_disable.CAB"
Just one thing more... but that's just personal taste: I would like not to have the modified splash screen. I would prefer you remove the "welcomehead.96.png" file in order to start my BA with the default WM5 splash screen. I do understand you are proud of your work and you like to see your name... ;-)
All these remarks are just constructive. I appreciate a great deal your work to install WM5 in our all BAs, mate. Thanks a lot.

My two dream things for the BA are...
1. GSM Power Hack. When in a one bar or less signal area, you can enable this switch to overpower power your phone (illegal of course) so that it is more likely to be in range. You could proberly extend this to Wireless and Bluetooth if you wanted. Course it would drain your battery like a short circuit. Isn't they some way the power gets bosted for emergancy 911/999 calls already?
2. Sim Card IMEI Memory Prog. Sure someone asked for this before in a previous topic. A nifty program that will download all the details from your sim card and then create a "Virtual SIM" on your phone, allowing you to have two numbers (or maybe even more?) on your phone without any hardware mods. Of course, this would proberly need a serious firmware hack to do, I mean how do you choice with number to call or send a message from?
Makes you wonder though, could you have a Virtual SIM in one phone and a Hard SIM of the same IMEI, and get two mobiles to ring at once?
Of course, these are the *Ultimate* doubt it will never happen dreams. :mrgreen:

Percz said:
1. GSM Power Hack. When in a one bar or less signal area, you can enable this switch to overpower power your phone (illegal of course) so that it is more likely to be in range. You could proberly extend this to Wireless and Bluetooth if you wanted. Course it would drain your battery like a short circuit. Isn't they some way the power gets bosted for emergancy 911/999 calls already?
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Absolutely impossible
2. Sim Card IMEI Memory Prog. Sure someone asked for this before in a previous topic. A nifty program that will download all the details from your sim card and then create a "Virtual SIM" on your phone, allowing you to have two numbers (or maybe even more?) on your phone without any hardware mods. Of course, this would proberly need a serious firmware hack to do, I mean how do you choice with number to call or send a message from?
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Impossible.
Makes you wonder though, could you have a Virtual SIM in one phone and a Hard SIM of the same IMEI, and get two mobiles to ring at once?
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This works. But some operators detect this and block you.

Best WM6 ROM for AT&T Treo 750

So, I've been reading just about every freaking thread in here, and still don't know what the best ROM for this phone is.
I updated my girlfriend's phone to the 2.23 ROW a while back, and it's a bit buggy and is ravenous on the battery. I've heard the (finally) released Palm/AT&T ROM is a lot better (2.25), but it's not vanilla.
Has anyone packaged the new AT&T ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware? I've read the discussion on the cappackage.pxp files, but the results seem to be a bit varied. I can edit the XML file to install the AT&T ROM w/o having to downgrade or anything, but I feel the cappackage stuff might be over my head.
Also, how are the radio bands on the new AT&T ROM? Are there two, or four?
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

The best "vanilla" ROM, in my opinion is the AU3 ROM. Very stable. Net really vanilla, because it's branded when you turn the phone on/off, but no extra links or junk you won't use. WM6 is the same regardless of the carrier. They throw their little extras, but the OS is the same. So, I am comparing the Radio and battery. I used the ATT leak, the ROW, AU3 and I've settled on the official ATT version. The radio is very dependable and battery life is good. You can move the extra ATT stuff into a nested folder so you don't need to look at it.

It'd be nice if we could just remove the AT&T crap from the new ROM, then repackage it.

Flapjack said:
It'd be nice if we could just remove the AT&T crap from the new ROM, then repackage it.
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I agree..
I just posted this in another thread, but maybe this is a better location. I copied this from another forum......
The ATT upgrade does NOT include Windows Live (not really sure why) and they've also locked down the Internet Sharing application such that you cannot tether a computer unless you pay $15-20 more for a 'tethered' data plan. The unbranded version is not crippled in this way.
If the ATT "crap" is removed, will that fix/ remove the tethering problem???

has anyone compared the speed of the ROM's? I am a bit bewildered how slow this 300 mHz processor is at times...using the leaked ATT ROM

unkabuzz said:
If the ATT "crap" is removed, will that fix/ remove the tethering problem???
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I doubt it. The "crap" is just software. The program might be installed as a cab from another ROM, but there might be something in the registry as well. Simply removing the AT&T bloatware will not make it work again.

Tethering does work properly with the new released ATT ROM. If you are having a problem, it is probably because you have "enable advanced network functionality" checked on the USB configuration settings. Disable that feature and I suspect it will work fine for you.

The 2.23 ROW version installs WindowsLive from the extended ROM.
The carrierDB and cappackage files are copied to RAM, don't know why,
but you may have less memory left with this ROM version.
You can delete the two files form the windows directory but they reappear after a soft reset.

O2 XDA Stellar Corporate Software Install?

Hi,
I should be getting my XDA Stellar tomorrow, I currently have a mini S and was just wondering wether there is an option to do a corporate install on the Stellar (removing all the O2 crap) like there was on the mini S.
Any Ideas?

lokas said:
Hi,
I should be getting my XDA Stellar tomorrow, I currently have a mini S and was just wondering wether there is an option to do a corporate install on the Stellar (removing all the O2 crap) like there was on the mini S.
Any Ideas?
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When I started up my Stellar for the first time it just loaded the O2 custom stuff by default - don't think there was a way to stop it. You'll probably need to investigate how you change the ROM.
I'm in the process of trying to understand how this works from reading here but not confident enough I do understand it yet to even think about attempting it.
I loaded TomTom Nav 6 the other day & that seems to work well although it did completely freak at one point meaning all I got on the screen was the Tom Tom splash screen - even after a soft reset.
Managed to unload it & reload it & all has been OK since although yesterday the GPS went mental - couldn't find more than one or two satellites & at one point it was telling me I was somewhere out in the atlantic off the coast of France! (I was in my house near London at the time )
Overall I think its a good device. I just want to figure out how I can get it to default to using the available Wifi connection when I'm in the house rather than heading straight for a GPRS connection when I run Internet Explorer.

Anyone else?
How hard would it be to install a HTC ROM if I can't remove the O2 software?
Are there any benefits to having the O2 ROM as oppoes to the HTC ROM and Vice Versa?

lokas said:
Anyone else?
How hard would it be to install a HTC ROM if I can't remove the O2 software?
Are there any benefits to having the O2 ROM as oppoes to the HTC ROM and Vice Versa?
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I'd guess the O2 rom has some "bloat-ware" in it & it'll also contain all the settings you need for GPRS access, voicemail etc that it will program into the device for you.
I think O2's "Today" screen is a bit of a mess to be honest.
When you first start the thing up there is a 3-5 second delay after initial setup before it then runs the carrier's customisation
I saw something posted that if you pull the battery at this point then it will stop the customisation & you just get the standard HTC config. Not sure of what the potential risks are though.
Apparently you can do this at any point afterwards as well if you do a hard reset (don't know how you do that yet!)
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to stop the custom o2 install, when it says about to customer soft reset it by poking the stylus in the reset hole on the base of the phone

I've just left the stock ROM running, but stopped various aspects of the software that comes with it from starting up by removing the links from the startup menu. The device doesn't run slowly at all. I was amazed at how ugly the O2 stuff was!
I didn't bother with a new ROM, I have just installed the best bits of the HTC stuff from this forum (many thanks to many people, incidentally) and it improves the functionality of the device massively with very little work. Why O2 felt the need to replace good software with ugly rubbish I'll never know.
I run TomTom 6, and have never had any trouble with it at all; I always get a good quick lock, and have never found myself in the wrong country!

Deploying 200 Tilts

Hey everyone! Our company just signed up with AT&T and we got over 200 Tilts that I need to get ready to deploy. The reason we went with the Tilts is because we need WM 6.1, touch screen support (for signature capture), and GPS, and we ended up getting them all next to nothing rather than paying $1500 per device for something like a Symbol/Motorola MC70. Anyways, I am in need of advice... we're locking down close to all features of the phones except the ones we need via Microsoft's Mobile Device Manager (SCMDM) and I would like to get rid of ALL of AT&T's bloatware. I have noticed the soft-reset trick before the customization begins doesn't work on WM 6.1, once it boots back up it just starts the customization over again. I am not against flashing the device and putting a custom ROM on, overall here's what I'm looking for:
No bloatware
Faster operation
Optimized for battery life
Best ROM & Radio combo for a barebones deployment
Anyone have any recommendations for a solid deployment?
I appreciate everyone's time, thanks!
- Adam
EDIT: I was able to skip the bloatware, pressing the soft-reset button before the customization notification did the trick. Thanks for the heads up, Corpse and Hacker!

Just a thought!
Im sure youre going to get tons of responses. Find a rom that you like and ensure it has a lite version, these are usually the fastest most efficient roms. Go to spbsoftwarehouse.com, they have an excellent software that will make it easier for you to install the same options for multiple phones. Or you can look into Sashimi. Either way you would have to CID unlock every phone if you want to install rom and software/radio from the sd card. I personally would use the spb version, unlock one of the phones and use the spb clone program to clone all the phones.
Just a thought!

Hey Hawk, thanks for the response! So you're saying I can completely unlock one device, install a new ROM & Radio, clone it with that spb application, then restore it onto all the other devices right out of the box (without pre-unlocking them)? If so, that may just be the way to go!
- Adam

The soft reset trick to remove the bloatware on wm 6.1 does work. I have a tilt with wm 6.1 w/o bloatware. Try soft resetting at different times. If I remember right, you reset as soon as you see the HTC Home screen.

Thanks Corpse, I'll have to play around with it a little more I guess!
- Adam

I just got the ATT Tilt last week. The soft-reset does work, but the timing is now different. Instead of doing it when you see the 3 second timer, you have to do it right when you see the home page, which is right BEFORE the 3 second warning screen appears.
3G, WiFi, and Bluetooth are the three major battery drainers. Installing something like Bandswitch would allow you to set those to deactivate after a certain period of inactivity.
Don't have much to say about radios though. It depends a lot on where you are and what is best for that area.

You may want to look at this thread and have something custom done,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410975
P.M. the O.P. and see if he is willing to do the work for you..

Cook your own ROM and have it set the way you want.

Once you found your best ROM and settings, Sprite Clone could save you lots of work, here is the link: http://www.spritesoftware.com/?page_id=281. I am not using it but I use their excellent "Sprite Backup".

Newbie HTC Tytn II owner query...help greatly appreciated

Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things

Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum

thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler

ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers

afaseth said:
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)

afaseth said:
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.

thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?

RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!

i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?

That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.