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i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
It might be the nature of the question or not enough info to allow someone to compose an answer without asking a question in response.
I'm hardly an old-timer around here and have found the site quite helpful and have gotten response to my questions.
its fairly easy to ask for more info tho? but it was just a question i wasnt getting on anyones back or that. i am a total newbie at these phones and need as much help as i can get to use it to its full potential
chris
I'm new here too. Asked a question, got an answer. Look at your question and two things trike me. Its a bit vague and its something I expect you could find out by searching these forums and the rest of the net.
I find that if you help yourself - by finding out as much as you can first, maybe trying a few things and having them fail - then people are far more willing to help you.
General rule of the board No.79231 - "Don't reply to anyone who spells theme incorrectly" ;-)
Seriously, it's probably because you asked a question that has been asked so many times that it is obvious you have not shown any effort by doing a search yourself.
Tip try a search for corporate AND install. I'm not sure if it is exactly the same method as on the Alpine and I'm not going to search for you I'm afraid.
yea i understand that guys, and i have searched and found a load of stuff just do not have a clue what to download theres that many.
oh an come on one typo :lol:
chris
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
OK heres what you asked:
got my XDA yesterday an was told to wipe the o2 software an its speeds up the phone more, also looking for the XP theam for it. and how to update and install etc etc? first time av had a phone like th ...
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See first thing I noticed - everything you asked in this post can be found by just searching the forum. Themes [I assume you do mean themes] can be found by a simple google search. How to install on the XDA[is that a phone?] can be found in the users manual. Upgrading the ROM might be something you wanna come back to once you know your phone a little better. Live with it a little while...
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So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
chris267 said:
dkb218 said:
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
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Me, Get ratty? Perish the thought. Me getting ratty would be like me saying something like, oh, I don't know - "Listen you little twit!!! Try the fricken search button!!!" But I didn't say that. I tried to offer you some help. Take it or leave it!!!
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
dkb218 said:
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
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cheers dude al start searching for that stuff.
i threw that 4th question in for good luck lol, but i will check them out. thanks for your help and i will let you know how i get on
cheers
chris
chris267:
People do help newbies, and that's part of the job. I'm getting worried by the number of people saying that we don't help newbies. We were all one once, but for God, I suppose (I guess that's what he was doing for the first 5 days, blinging up his phone!)
Anyway, I don't know anything about the o2 stuff. I've got an o2 phone, but basically reset my phone before it installed anything from the extended rom. This basically means, extended slowness. You can then pick and choose what to install to customise your phone, resulting in a faster phone.
Theme and things: I suggest you have a look through this thread for ideas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44560&highlight=start
Many people recommend Wisbar, a customisation program to change the look of the phone. It's heavy, uses a lot of memory, but looks good.
Have a look through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=57926&highlight=software
There are many similar threads on the board, but my recommendations are, install SmallMenu, gsfinder, (and for me, VJOkButt). Anything else is cosmetic or optional, these 2/3 are essential.
V
1. to remove it try doing a hard reset, then boot up in coproate mode and enter 0506.Failing that to temporarily remove it go to start->settings->remove programs and remove O2ActiveUI. This will only make it go until your next hard reset. If you want to get rid of it another way try removing the file from the startup by: fileexplorer /windows/startup remove the program called o2 startup and do a soft reset.
2.no prgrams needed
3.you need to get wisbar advance forst, then get the xp theme on that and it should work
4. get a program called spb pocket plus, great little app and tcmp movie player too is good after that it's down to personal preference
Try www.freewareppc.com for lots of freeware.
hahaha
1. How to install Windows XP on my Wizard?
2. Where to download 3mpx patch for my camera?
3. And I need FM-radio patch too. May be it in AKU 3.5?
4. How to double screen resolution to 640x480?
5. And finally: how to install ASQ* Filter for this forum?
*ASQ = Another Stupid Question
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i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
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Sorry about your Feelings Chris.
I felt the same a few days back when I joined this forum.
But People who scorned at me were probably those who had never even heard about the forums I am Moderating on; (these forums have nothing to do with XDA developement however) But I can assure them that had they posted anything "seemingly stupid" on those forums I would have gladly helped them.
Vijay Was extremely helpful in explaining to me the way the world runs and the Way THIS forum Runs (excuse the caps).
He came to my rescue and set things right about it and I am glad that he is here as are some other members who have been very much helpful.
This forum is a Great place for newcomers as well as for experts.
At first if you dont understand things u might feel confused; but later on as you go thru the posts......things become clear.
At least they did for me.
I have read your posts and what you write was, what I felt just 2 weeks back when I joined, Only I took it all in my stride.
Chris maybe you had the guts to speak it out loud..
So in a way you are better that me Chris !!
Please keep on searching for your answers here on xda-dev and I am sure you shall go a long way.
In case there is ever anything I can do to help you out simply whisper...
(im me)
I have posted a reply to your queries for O2 default software removing and I have posted a few Today skins (XP type)
regards....and have fun with your New Set !!
The skins are availble here :arrow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=13780
jeasbe'
(Simply a newbie like you )
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I? But sometimes, I think people forget that we're all people with brains and familes and feelings, not just meaningless posts on a forum.
So really, I mean it, if anyone gives anyone a hard time, PM me and I'll see if it's a legitimate complaint. If I can help, I'll probably end up answering a post at some point anyway, because I can't stop :shock:
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
V
vijay555 said:
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I?................
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
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THE GREATEST of all Men Underestimate themselves and Vijay is Far too Modest !!
dude its maybe a american thing i think.... i got treated the same on mp3car forum... and there mostly yanks too...
dont worry bout it....
i do kinda see ehere there comming from though.... I guess if u sit watching same forum all the time would start to annoy u that kept getting the same old questions asked...
I personaly got 2 replys... so did pretty well... although... still cant get rid of flipping message sent tone
Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.
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WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.[/Q
First off i have spent several hours and many days searching and did you read what was given on your search or just find some stuff on it and called it good, if you have read my thread then you will see that everywhere i look it doesnt explain what i am wanting to know, just jumping around different things,
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Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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Nice.
Oh and BTW, I did see your video driver. It's off playing Doom on 32X.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
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good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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reading your thread is like walking into a brick wall with a hard on!!!
omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
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why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
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wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
rolltyde said:
wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
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Jesus. You are an arrogant one aren't you. I would think that if it didn't say you needed to do something extreme, like unlock, that you wouldn't. But I guess I think like that.
ALSO, if you wanted to know for sure. Respond in the Doom On Kaiser thread.
Get off your high horse and contribute to the community. That's why were are here. We are a development community, not a Tech Support Community. WE help out each other. I can't make ROMs. But I test them out and help other people that have questions. I also provide Mirrors. I'm not here to hold your hand. But if you are trying and stuck, then I will help.
You stated, "why dont[sic] you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated[sic] you get." That's the problem, most of us senior members, have read useless stuff because people refuse to search.
Your attitude when people tried to help you was appalling. Understand our side. We see the same thread a dozen times a day. We search and find the answer. Gets a little frustrating. But to be attacked for GIVING Answers, That is completely rude. In fact. IF you DO stick around. I will not help you unless you apologize to the people who tried to point you in the right direction. But I have a feeling you got want you wanted an won't be returning to our community. I for one will not be shedding a tear in your honor.
Please do not disturb the members of these forums with questions that can be answered by reading the wiki or stickies. Thread is closed. If you're wondering why, please read the forum rules, found in the sticky link in my sig.
seems like the keyboard got mapped slightly wrong after flashing to windows mobile 6.1.
the only things i have noticed so far is that the ; has changed to this " so i cant find the : on the keyboard.
and the ! and @ have been switched.
any ideas why and how they can be remapped or how i can manually remap them myself?
thanks.
by the way, i have dutty's WM 6.1 rom.
radio version is 1.70.OliNex
search keyboard fix.
bye
This is my favorite noob post of all time. We get these about once a week and sometimes twice. These fools never can read or search. LOL
OP, thank you for the laugh, now read something and leave us alone. HEHe
i just fixed mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
hope that helps
im2slpy said:
i just fixed mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
hope that helps
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Nice reply. The others jokers just like to waste space and complain over and over instead of keeping their comments to themselves. I guess that is how you become a senior member....Finding how many threads you can put people down in instead of trying to just help a noob along.
wmg76 said:
Nice reply. The others jokers just like to waste space and complain over and over instead of keeping their comments to themselves. I guess that is how you become a senior member....Finding how many threads you can put people down in instead of trying to just help a noob along.
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Hey! You calm down. You don't run the forums! Keep up that attitude and no one will want to help you.
Did you know since I've been here I've seen 150 new threads created to ask about the Tilt Keyboard problem. It's and old problem that's been resolved numerous times. It covered 4 times in the Wiki too.
wmg76 said:
Nice reply. The others jokers just like to waste space and complain over and over instead of keeping their comments to themselves. I guess that is how you become a senior member....Finding how many threads you can put people down in instead of trying to just help a noob along.
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I think you are completely off base. No one here tries to purposely put one down but when something has been covered 1001 times and someone makes a new post what do you expect?
When you become a senior member and spend 10 minutes filtering out threads like this maybe you will understand the frustration.
Yeah this question is asked a lot and so are a lot of other basic qustions. I see it all the time. You could always just ignore it like we all do or simply point them to a link. It's not like this page is a simple easy to navigate page for new users. I know it took a little exploring when I first found it. I figure this user felt the same way I did after finding out that the keyboard didn't work right..paniced and asked a simple question. Yeah he could have probably found it with searching after a little bit but dang...
This is going to be the last I say on this topic. But the reason its hard to navigate is people forget to or choose not to search. Therefore created crap to dig through.
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This is going to be the last I say on this topic. But the reason its hard to navigate is people forget to or choose not to search. Therefore created crap to dig through.
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/Agrees with Jimmy
Sigh, I hate it also when people dont look before asking. I am not a "senior" member but I have seen this at least covered more than 50 times myself.
Does anyone EVER EVER EVER think to look on the VERY first page of the WIKI ????????
Right on the VERY first page you would have seen this
# Tilt Keyboard Fix (for Tilt devices when using HTC based ROMs)
# TyTN II Keyboard Fix (for TyTN II devices when using AT&T based ROMs)
Linked here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Under hacks and tweaks. We are all just getting mad because 100 times a day new people come here looking for answers that are on the 1st page expecting to be SPOON FED all of their answers. THIS IS THE FIRST FRIGGEN PAGE FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its not even like you had to look through 400 posts to get to an answer!!!!!!!!!
Whats YOUR excuse ????? Dont go hollaring at "Senior Members" because you are either too impatient to look or are too handicapped..........
i agree with you JimmyMcGee answering everything to anybody create dependence, but in the same time i can understand when people post questions and genuinely not able finding answer simply because they are just begining...
respect to everybody,
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This is going to be the last I say on this topic. But the reason its hard to navigate is people forget to or choose not to search. Therefore created crap to dig through.
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i dont know why people have to be so f**** rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is for f**** help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" but damn f***! if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut the f*** up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
This has been discussed already. Please use the Search link up at the top right.
lol, and this is supposed to be a polite post? Come on, lighten up, if the same questions get asked for a thousand times, then i can imagine people sometimes like to point out the search feature of the site
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i dont know why people have to be so f**** rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is for f**** help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" but damn f***! if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut the f*** up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
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No my friend, what is rude is to ask other people to waste their time because you are too lazy to do a little bit of research for yourself.
If you can help someone then help them, if you can't then don't. If you just don't want to help then you are just a user. The most repeated thing I have read in these forums is "use the search" if that is the only comment you can make then get lost! It is true in here that some who think they know something are just abrupt and rude to people who they think know less than themselves. Wisdom expresses itself in many ways, the least of which is "use the search".
Please use the search function.
Its there for your service!
We are all here for each others service.
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If you can help someone then help them, if you can't then don't. If you just don't want to help then you are just a user. The most repeated thing I have read in these forums is "use the search" if that is the only comment you can make then get lost! It is true in here that some who think they know something are just abrupt and rude to people who they think know less than themselves. Wisdom expresses itself in many ways, the least of which is "use the search".
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Well said! I must say, as a new user (but a seasoned veteran of similar dev sites), I have been dismayed at how simple questions here from noobs like me, are frequently greeted with thinly veiled contempt and disgust.
I just made a prototype app for the Diamond that uses the G sensor, and would like to get some feedback from folks, but I'm reluctant to start a new thread on the topic in case I unintentionally incur the wrath of the the veterans here!
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I just made a prototype app for the Diamond that uses the G sensor, and would like to get some feedback from folks, but I'm reluctant to start a new thread on the topic in case I unintentionally incur the wrath of the the veterans here!
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I'm sure you won't. Your thread will be most welcome.
However, I strongly feel that anybody should try and do some simple research before asking for help. I don't believe it's very polite (nor educational, for that matter) to simply write a post that essentially says: my time is too important to waste on trivial things like trying to find information, but since your time has no value to me, why don't you do that?
I often tried to find things when answering to others if the issue was not described in the forum. If, on the contrary, it has been discussed (and in many cases more than once), I believe that the Search button should be used.
It would be rude not to...
Actually I think it is pretty sad that most people have nothing better to do than to flame people in forums. If you see a question that is addressed somewhere else then either point the person in that direction or just don't answer. I have to agree that sometimes it is not that the person is using the search link but perhaps they are not searching correctly. This is a professional forum and we do not need unprofessional people in it so please play nice everyone.
A lot of the questions on here remind me of the 300ZX forum I used to go on... "I want to do a Twin Turbo swap, what do I need?" How many times do you think that question was answered? How many stickies do you think there were about that same question? Here's what the veterans are trying to make you do... Come into the forum, search for your answer first, then after you don't find it, ask. It prevents the forum from being cluttered and lets the people who really DO have unanswered questions to get answers more quickly. I'm not going to be mean or disrespectful about it, but please, if for nothing else, for the efficiency of helping each other, try to find the answer on your own before you ask a question.
It wouldn't be so bad if the Diamond forums were old with 100s of threads and the question being asked was last answered weeks ago. But the Diamond forums are relatively new and most of the questions being asked have already been asked on the current page or the page 2. You don't even need to use search to find the answer.
I've only been flashing for less than 2 weeks and so far have managed to find all the tools and guides I need by reading the posts on pages 1 and 2. I didn't need to go any deeper or use search.
So if anyone asks a question which has already been answered dozens of times then you should expect a few people to get annoyed. Afterall it takes less effort to read then for someone to type out an explanation again an again.
Also, a lot of questions are too vague, e.g. I can't flash the hardspl. Maybe if you spent a bit more effort saying what you have tried and exactly where the problem is then you might get more help.
uniqueboy said:
If you can help someone then help them, if you can't then don't. If you just don't want to help then you are just a user. The most repeated thing I have read in these forums is "use the search" if that is the only comment you can make then get lost! It is true in here that some who think they know something are just abrupt and rude to people who they think know less than themselves. Wisdom expresses itself in many ways, the least of which is "use the search".
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Agree 100%. Yeah I get a bit miffed reading the same basic questions, but then when you do use the search engine, it brings back 100's of threads at times, which a new comer to the ppc world might not fully understand.
I had my first ppc phone back with the Blue Angel, and so many guys have helped me along the way since then. It's only the minority who say "Use the search!!!". But having said that, I think this is the least friendly/most abusive ppc forum. I get the general feeling that a few guys in here are above their stations...
Just my 2 pence worth. Not "cents" as I'm British. If you don't know where Britain is, or its monetary system, then use the f**king sear......
snigfargle said:
Well said! I must say, as a new user (but a seasoned veteran of similar dev sites), I have been dismayed at how simple questions here from noobs like me, are frequently greeted with thinly veiled contempt and disgust.
I just made a prototype app for the Diamond that uses the G sensor, and would like to get some feedback from folks, but I'm reluctant to start a new thread on the topic in case I unintentionally incur the wrath of the the veterans here!
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Bro:
If you offer us any kind of app with those characteristics you will never incur in the wrath of the the veterans here!
1. new posts that contains or starts with:crappy, wtf (this is real special to me), what to buy, battery life, gps, what programs, who is better, iPhone, how to? (the answer in the manual), polls-bring the killer instinct in me.
2, new posts that contains or starts with:i can not, help, my diamond.., how to ?, where to find, i searched but...., confused-bring the mother Theresa buried deep in me.
3. new posts that contains or starts with:i developed, solved, news, new program, new game, how to (without question mark)-bring up the happy me together with "lets donate", let's be encouraging answer post.
this is not a graffiti wall. this is a place with rules (when you registered you accepted the rules) and don't start useless threads/posts is one of them.
respect the rules and by doing so you respect the place and it's inhabitants.
giving respect will bring you back respect.
interesting threads are pushed back in 2-nd and 3-thrd page by threads started just to chat. the forum is full with such posts started usually by a noobie that is soon joined but 5-8 other noobies that are happily chating about something that's only by far related with diamond. each posts, each answer is bumping the thread up.
since my diamond is today how i wished to be and i don't have to search (ooops, sorry for using dirty words) for answers or tweaks i found great pleasure in helping ppl that need help but only ppl that at least tried to solve, to search and help themselves first.
i dont know why people have to be so rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
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first, watch yr language please!
second, i took the liberty to edit yr post. looks better and the message remain the same.
third, sending you to search is help because it means that the solution of yr problem is here somewhere buried between all the posts (too many useless, but who is to blame?). when looking for it you'll usually read posts that you''l remember later when trying to solve other problems. search is good for you and yr diamond.
keep the forum clean ppl!
KukurikU said:
... sending you to search is help because it means that the solution of yr problem is here somewhere buried between useless posts. when looking for it you'll usually read posts that you''l remember later when trying to solve other problems.
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Very good points there KukurikU.
If the Diamond forum wasn't so full of posts which should be in the General forum then it would be easier to find Diamond specific answers.
And, like you said, while searching for an answer to a problem I've read other posts along the way which taught me things I never knew.
trichau81 said:
i dont know why people have to be so f**** rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is for f**** help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" but damn f***! if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut the f*** up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
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There is one thing i don't understand. This is you're first post so no one has send you to the search function. Maybe you have read a question from a poster with a certain history? Otherwise i don't get i why you register yourself to a forum and start a bad topic.
marco899 said:
There is one thing i don't understand. This is you're first post so no one has send you to the search function. Maybe you have read a question from a poster with a certain history? Otherwise i don't get i why you register yourself to a forum and start a bad topic.
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Hahahaha that's something I didn't notice... He's looking at other users being told to use search and sticking up for them? Lame.
Why did this discussion get started in the Diamond Forum in the first place. This is a general discussion and not related to the Diamond specifically and is yet itself another example of how specific forums get cluttered and why it can get difficult to find what you are looking for in a specific forum.
pedmond said:
No my friend, what is rude is to ask other people to waste their time because you are too lazy to do a little bit of research for yourself.
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Dont answer the Q then and your time wont be wasted! Sometimes its hard to find the answer with the search function and even if you find the thread it could be 50-something pages long...
A stickied folder for Help and Troubleshooting for both apps and themes? Or each their own? Please be gentle. Since so many people are using different builds, just wondering.
lol guess not!
The problem is people don't use them. There are existing threads that were written to explain how to install, etc. You can go through any one of the rom threads and see the same questions asked over and over and over. I have stopped answering the blatant "I didn't even try to figure it out" kind of questions. You want to play with this stuff I feel you need to put in the effort to figure out how it works before you do something. And how to fix it when you inevitably break it. Freaking out when your tablet bootloops and then just asking the same stupid questions again, and again really does get annoying... The major issues that you can run into have been solved, and answered in numerous locations, numerous times. You just have to look for it!
That is done by reading! A lot of reading... I answer a lot of questions. But rarely ever ask one. Why? Because 9 times out of 10 the same question has already been answered. You just have to learn to use the search button at the top of the page.. Or search Google for the subject. This tablet is not really that much different from any Android phone and a lot of the info applies.
If you are not willing to try to help yourself maybe an Ipad is a better fit.
So, if you want to write an FAQ have fun. Maybe people will use it. But I wouldn't really get my hopes up that it will stop the people that won't read, are illiterate, lazy, whatever the excuse is from asking the same thing over, and over...
I agree with you 100%. I was just wondering if a mod could make a sub folder. But like you said I'm not sure everyone would use it. I appreciate the response.
Sprdtyf350 said:
The problem is people don't use them. There are existing threads that were written to explain how to install, etc. You can go through any one of the rom threads and see the same questions asked over and over and over. I have stopped answering the blatant "I didn't even try to figure it out" kind of questions. You want to play with this stuff I feel you need to put in the effort to figure out how it works before you do something. And how to fix it when you inevitably break it. Freaking out when your tablet bootloops and then just asking the same stupid questions again, and again really does get annoying... The major issues that you can run into have been solved, and answered in numerous locations, numerous times. You just have to look for it!
That is done by reading! A lot of reading... I answer a lot of questions. But rarely ever ask one. Why? Because 9 times out of 10 the same question has already been answered. You just have to learn to use the search button at the top of the page.. Or search Google for the subject. This tablet is not really that much different from any Android phone and a lot of the info applies.
If you are not willing to try to help yourself maybe an Ipad is a better fit.
So, if you want to write an FAQ have fun. Maybe people will use it. But I wouldn't really get my hopes up that it will stop the people that won't read, are illiterate, lazy, whatever the excuse is from asking the same thing over, and over...
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I have found that I can't search while using the G-Tablet's browser on XDA Forums. Not an excuse for not going to one's PC and searching but perhaps a root cause of so much repitition on the forum.
anjenaire said:
I have found that I can't search while using the G-Tablet's browser on XDA Forums. Not an excuse for not going to one's PC and searching but perhaps a root cause of so much repitition on the forum.
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Most of the questions I see that repeat are the questions where someone no longer has use of there tablet because it has bootlooped, or some other evil thing. So they must have had use of a PC to ask the question. I think it is more a lack of patience, OMG! my tablet is dead and the sky is going to fall kind of thing.
Take a breath, slow down for a minute. The world won't stop spinning because your tablet froze. Take some time and read! And like magic... The answer will likely pop up from a number of different threads.
I really do understand the mentality.. It is a part of life today. Instant gratification without having to put any effort into anything. Maybe it is just because I am older but I was raised in a generation where asking a question normally got answered with a question! Like did you look in the book? Did you try and figure it out for yourself? Did you do anything to help yourself before you asked the question? And then it may have been answered with a big slap in the head!
I have always tried to look at things as if I am stranded on an Island in the middle of the Ocean. The ONLY way to get off the Island is to figure out a solution.. And unbelievably every manual ever made just happens to be on that Island. Well, I'm gonna get off that Island. I'm going to take the time to read.
With the use of the elusive button we call "Search" you too can have every manual ever made! Or at least have most of your answers.. And you too can get off the Island!
I was more or less asking if those questions could be moved to an isolated area lol, I use the search function. But sometimes the meat can get covered up by the potatoes so to speak.
once again thank you for the quick reply.
sixvoltsystem said:
I was more or less asking if those questions could be moved to an isolated area lol, I use the search function. But sometimes the meat can get covered up by the potatoes so to speak.
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I know.. For some reason my fingers just felt like typing. I will quit now
LOL hey no worries. It needed to be said, and I agree.
anjenaire said:
I have found that I can't search while using the G-Tablet's browser on XDA Forums. Not an excuse for not going to one's PC and searching but perhaps a root cause of so much repitition on the forum.
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It's not just w default browser... other browsers same problem. Instead click the Search button, then click the Advanced Search link.
Jim
jimcpl said:
It's not just w default browser... other browsers same problem. Instead click the Search button, then click the Advanced Search link.
Jim
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I agree, for some reason on this site when I search I come up empty almost every time. Not sure what I am doing wrong, using MS Explorer. On some of the other forums I use the search function works fine.