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OK, so I still have a blue angel, drooling over a kaiser, and my contract with O2 was up last week.
Thinking T-Mobile (for web n walk) but from what I hear the styling isnt as nice as the HTC one, plus my experiences with the O2 version of the XDA IIs ROMs left me a little cold.
So, ideally I want a non-branded Kaiser.
Well, if I take up a contract with T-Mobile, and take no phone, I am losing out, so I thought I would get a phone from them and sell it unused. I was looking and I can get a nokia 6300 for free with the tariff I want and it seems like I could get it unlocked easy enough or do it myself and flog it new, maybe get 100 quid for it? Any suggestions as to whether this would work or if I could shift an unlocked T-Mobile branded nokia 6300 on ebay for a decent rate. Also suggestions as to a better phone to use.
The other question is whether when I hooked the sim-free kaiser up to t-mobile, I would be able to get web n walk and all the other services set up OK. Don't want the T-Mobile front screen etc, just as long as everything works. I would imagine that cooking roms and stuff for it would be much easier as it was a vanilla phone, I am just worried about making the operator-specific settings...
Any other advice welcomed, ie another provider to go with who will subsidise me on the phone and who do an all-you-can-eat bandwidth package for a decent rate.
The only non-flexible bit is that it just *has* to be a kaiser
i did something similar a few years ago, look on tmob for all the phones you can get for free and the look on ebay's finished auctions search for the phone that seems to sell for the highest amount (it is generally the newest phones). You will still be out of pocket doing this rather than just waiting a few weeks on your current contract until tmob release the kaiser.
you will be able to get web'n'walk sms/mms settings fine, but probably won't be able to access their other services like mobile tv very easily
cool, nice to know it can work out.
I think I may have found a better phone to do it with - a sony k800i
There's a few going for over 300 quid at the mo on ebay.
I can get that free with the 15 quid a month contract, that's approaching the price of a kaiser
Not really worried about the mobile TV and stuff like that, am a geek, will do it myself - slingbox or mythtv something
OK, maybe I was smoking crack before I went to lunch or something, but there were multiple K800is on ebay listed at over 300 quid. I come back, check the link and it ended for 99.
WTF?? Maybe it was in euros or lira or something.
Im also going to use this cunning plan!
But I think your best options for a free phone to sell is either the Nokia N95 or the Blackberry Pearl.
Also, ensure T Mobile puts you on a 12 month contract as opposed to a 18 month one.
Agreed that the design of the MDA Vario III looks pants.
you can't get a free N95 on 12mo contract, and on an 18mo contract, you have to go up to the 45quid a mo contract to get it free - it's 250quid on the 15/mo contract I am going to get. The k800i or similar looks to be the phone that is going for the most on ebay that you can get for free with the 15/mo contract.
Am prolly gonna go with the 18mo contract as it is only actually 30quid more for 6 months more contract and you get more minutes / texts
Plus then I can get the web n walk for 7.50 and am still only paying a total of 22.50 a month
Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
If its unlocked, probably £250+
Don't get caught though
Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)
Of course if you get Branded t-mobile device you get a free Micro SD card with it and the best is the guarantee for the duration of your contract. Plus here in the NL if you need to send it for a repair it goes much quicker then via HTC... T-Mobile send you prestamped & preaddressed envelope (a special one) which you use to send in your device. I haad to use this service on my Vario II when I got allignment issues and I had my phone back fixed after 4 business days. Alternatively you can bring your phone to a t-mobile shop and they even offer you a temporary replacement phone (a junky one) but then it takes longer as it has to go throught their main depot.
I am right now ordering a TyTn II via my resellers website with T-Mobile Flex 40 renewal + PITP the phone costs me including shipment 125 Euros...
darthbane2k said:
Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
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Well I see two on ebay currently bidding at £544 and £655 but I saw phones yesterday going for silly amounts and then went back to a more reasonable amount. Maybe bids are getting rejected or someone is playing around.
What tariff did you have to go on to get one chucked in for free??
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Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)..
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You can do this in the UK, but it seems that T-mobile do not allow this unless the phone is branded or approved or something. Annoying as tmob is the only one doing a flat rate 3G bandwidth package for a reasonable amount (£7.50 pm or £1 a day) I am going to explore this avenue myself, but it seems to me that you can get way more subsidy by getting a whole phone and selling it.
T Mobile wont permit this in the UK because they like to attach branded phones to their contracts, these days banning services such as MSN messenger (which the Vario III will have disabled by default)
Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
OK, that makes sense.
LOL, one of those N95s just finished @ £1131 !
Normal bidding, then silly bids from "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" etc...
Looks like the 419 business is getting too much heat so the Lads from Lagos have switched to a new tack.
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I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
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I have dealt with these scammers a many a time on ebay. They totally ruin things for all.
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Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
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Its not blocked. Its frowned upon. However T Mobile are now disabling use of it via firmware, hence one of the reasons why the Vario III is being delayed.
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
To clarify on Web n Walk...
On the normal (£7.50) tariff, only surfing and email is allowed.
On the Web n Walk Plus (£12.50) tariff, everything except VOIP is allowed.
I will probably go with the £7.50 one and if they moan, go on to the £12.50 one
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
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Dunno, might only get £200. Most of the ones over £200 seem to be tampered with...
What you might be better of doing is browsing the net and seeing if you can get 1 on a 12 month free contract with a cheepish phone and then the money u save on the contract put with selling the cheaper phone might get u somewhere...
This is the Kaiser 100, without any camera.
What I'd like to know is, are there any differences between this model and the standard (with camera) Kaiser? ie, besides the obvious lack of camera, and probably lack of camera software.
Further, does anyone know whether the Kaiser 100 (unbranded) model can be purchased anywhere?
Assuming that the Tilt 8900 is the only option, is it possible to purchase it directly from AT&T, without being their customer?
Last, how long is the warranty given by AT&T for the Tilt 8900? Because I understand that HTC give a 2 year warranty for the Kaiser?
Thank you.
Anyone?
where can I buy the Tilt 8900?
I have the device listed on my company's AT&T Premier site but have not seen it anywhere else.
I've seen some on sale in eBay
And in negrielectronics.com as well.
http://www.wirefly.com/specialoffer.aspx?cid=21427_d54a347218c143a2935d3b71fab22303
I just got my phone from wirefly for $99 with contract and rebate..
there are software differences btw the two, AT&T adds there software, and taking out others, like worldcard...
but if you go around the forum you will be able to costumized to be like the HTC.
Still no front camera, but i don't use it anyway..
1 more thing the keyboard has different color, i find little confusing a fist, but i probably will bet used to it..
A.
Yes, but....
1. Wirefly seem to have only the 8925, which has the camera, while I need the 8900, without the camera.
2. Could you please enhance a bit regarding the software differences between the standard HTC PPC, and the Tilt?
3. I'm concerned that Tilt users (especially the 8900 owners) would be left behind regarding ROM updates, as AT&T seem to have a rather different ROM. And so, AT&T wouldn't be able to support users who shall upgrade the ROM by themselves (ie - making any sort of change to the AT&T ROM would basically cancel the warranty).
alexk, does wirefly charged you on top of att early termination fee?
just called wirefly, there is a 250$ charged on top of att 175 $early termination fee.
I have the ATT Tilt 8900, same thing as tilt with camera, but with no software to run it, it still has the camera button, and when pushed it takes u to my pictures folder but missing is the camera icon you would normally see there. I got it from the ATT directly with my premier account, for $99. I also ordered the Titl with camera which should arrive on friday at $150. So i'll be able to really tell if theres a difference.
How can I purchase the 8900 without being an AT&T customer?
Thank you.
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from what ive seen with the cingular/at&t cameraless PPC's (8100, 8500, 8900), they are usually only available online or through telesales. i have never seen them in any stores. i would assume that this is because the cameraless version is catered towards those with a specific purpose for it (work related issues, etc.) and not the general public. so i guess it's reserved for special order only. in terms of ordering without service, i'd say its going to be tough to talk them into it but its worth a shot. but i wouldn't get your hopes up of them saying yes.
Can't order on-line, so I guess it's going to be the hard way...
I'll have to find a relative/friend who's an AT&T customer.
Another alternative is Negri's, but he charges a slightly higher price. Anyone here has any experience with them (regarding reliability, etc)?
And of course on eBay.
Does anyone know whether AT&T gives the same warranty period as HTC for the original Kaiser (2 years)?
Thank you.
Tilt bought at negri
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I'll have to find a relative/friend who's an AT&T customer.
Another alternative is Negri's, but he charges a slightly higher price. Anyone here has any experience with them (regarding reliability, etc)?
And of course on eBay.
Does anyone know whether AT&T gives the same warranty period as HTC for the original Kaiser (2 years)?
Thank you.
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I bought my Tilt at Negri. Got it in my hands just yestarday!
What can I say, buying at Negri's is not bad nor outstanding. Just normal and reliable. Btw, I used google checkout.
Cheers!
I'm looking for the non-camera Tilt (the 8900)
Negri's advertised it for a short while, then removed it.
Hi everyone!
I'm interested on buy this PDA, after a couple hours of search on the web I discover the alibaba(www.alibaba.com) it's also like ebay...So, i search on alibaba and found a lot of companies(most in china) solding HTC TyTN II.The company that maybe i choose to buy are Putian Hengwang Trade Co., Ltd.(http://hencan.en.alibaba.com/)there you will find a lot of mobile phones.I entered in contact with the sales manager and he told me the price of tytn II is $420 + $30 to send in Brazil.
Has anyone with some experience on buy products from chinaa?About this Company?Can I trust on her?Any information will be helpfull
I'm so crazy on buy the TyTN II, but my ded will not let me buy on expansys +-$800 + 60% of taxes
Thanks!!
Certainly does NOT look like a company I would trust.
I wouldn't trust that company... I mean, look at their "Products" section... they're selling shoes, jackets and handbags along with the phones and mp3 players. Don't get lured by a cheap price.
Don't do it, my friend bought a FAKE Samsung i718 from one of those companies (found on Alibaba)
well, i think think and think and i will buy htc tilt, its the same of tytn II but it doesn't have the frontal camera. on ebay i found +- $500,00. On the begining fo March I will put my hand on tilt!!!!
Thanks to asking my questions!!!!!!!!
Resist the temptation to buy the HTC's in China. There are too many copy-cat and "lost in production" items.
And do not forget that you do not buy a PSP or PMP if you want to use it for watching movies (untill a fix is out)
Good luck
afaik, HTC is still called Dopod here. I am working somewhere near Shanghai and none of my friend recognize the HTC on my kaiser until I told them it's same as Dopod.
Sure that you only want the TyTN II but not an at&t Tilt? You intend to make/receive a lot of video calls? If not, go ebay for Tilt and you'll save bunch of money over TyTN II. In additional, discuss w/ sellers if (s)he can declare it as a GIFT to void the import tax. 60% is highway robberries!
Funnies thought a bout China website.
Where the heck are Forty Thieves? Does it sell stuffs from thieves? That's really ridiculous name even though it's very popular in China and its CEO wants to beat google. Goodluck to another day-dreamer! LOL
I ordered a HTC TyTN II from MobilePC.com but when I got it the mini usb port did not work So they offered to give me a full refund or exchange for another phone since they are out of HTC TyTN II pocket pc's.
Where online can I get this phone for around $550 or less? I want to get it from a reliable source with returns or someone local in Phoenix, AZ where I can test it out.
Also Anyone recommend any other phones I might want to consider before buying a new TyTN II?
Thanks
CC
Buy one of mine. I have two and one is in perfect condition. It is sim/cid unlocked and comes with everything. Going to list it on ebay this week for 375.00.
Jeff
Is it a TyTN II or a tilt? Can anyone on here vouch for you? Just heard bad things buying on the forums.
Thanks
CC
It is a tilt. My ebay username is tonyandjeff if you want to look me up. I could list it on ebay and just have you buy if from there. That way you get all the buyer protection that ebay/paypal affords you.
Jeff
I found tilts online locally for $299-$350 so I am going to check those out first. If you want to drop your price then maybe.
Do you have skype installed on your Tilt? If so how does it work?
Thanks
CC
Locally would be the best bet for you. I do not use skype so I can't help you there
htc kaiser for sale - $350
comes with original box, app cd, manual, sync cable, 1gb microSD, flashed with a 6.1 rom,
has had screen protector quite literally from the moment i took it out of the box.
came with european charger, i'll throw in the motorola charger i've been using + car charger and car windshield mount(see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42435/HTC+TyTN+II+Deluxe+Dashboard+Mount.html, white pocket solutions case with clip(see http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42360/HTC+TyTN+II+White+Diplomat+Series+Case.html
original htc case, blue clear case (see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-43906/HTC+TyTN+II+Blue+Crystal+Clear+Case.html
brand new pack of 3 styli specifically for the tytn II
if i think of anything else i'll add it later
the phone does have a few scratches along the edge of the casing but the phone works flawlessly, right now i have no pics, and honestly the scratches wouldn't be visible in a picture anyways. you already know all the specs on this phone so i'm not going to list those. it is this HTC tytn II as i mentioned before not the att tilt or any other variety
i will ship(on me) usps with insurance unless otherwise specified
email me at [email protected] for questions/offers
i accept paypal only
when i post to ebay i'll add the link here
here's the ebay link with pictures!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170229041118
just sent you an email.
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@ the OP
Please inform us if it is successfully sold so that we may close this thread at the appropriate time.
@ everyone else
I deleted the posts that were hijacking this thread. I hope you guys understand.
Thank you for understanding
Hello All,
This is just to inform you all that this phone is now sold since I have just purchased it on ebay.
This will be my second Kaiser, and I have to admit that I am very happy with it. I had a Herald before, and the Kaiser is a distinct improvement.
Thanks to all on this site who provide such good advice!! And thanks for helping me find a new phone for my wife!!
nebc100
How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
Hey 246810.
Maybe you should reduce your price a bit to get more interest. Your Phone is a T-mobile branded TYTN so will not have the look of the original TYTN from HTC Which may put some poeple off a bit.
I recently had the opportunity to purchase a MDA vario 3 for £200 brand-new and never used but my heart was set on an orginal looking one. A week later I managed to get an orange branded one with a HTC replacement battery cover £250.
I'm not saying yours isn't a bad offer. But maybe the price is a bit too much for what it is.
Hope you find luck selling it.
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Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
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Yep, I have a thread advertising my phone. I'm still waiting for my paypal set up to come through and then I will put in on Ebay. Mine is brand new as well and hasn't even be switched on and comes with all you need.
Good luck with your herald- quite personally I don't see myself purchasing a Windws Mobile phone again in a very long time...
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How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
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Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
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Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
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Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
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Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
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Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
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Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
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May I ask if you can buy it for this price brand new? I do find it hard to believe that you can purchase a new Diamond for around £290. Who are you purchasing them from? Cuboosh?...
Also, keep in mind that it comes with 4 cases, two of which are the boxwave clear active case and Siedo's case, and two leather cases, Sony Bluetooth headphones in good condition, along with a virtually unused very compact Bluetooth keyboard that I purchased off Expansys for £60/$120.
not to hijack the thread or anything, but just to let you know, that most people dont really care about that stuff. i wouldnt pay extra for a bluetooth keyboard. why would i need it??? hah 4 cases??!!! one is more than enough. just letting you know why you're having problems selling it so far. maybe try selling that stuff separately??