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Hi.
I'd like to know which settings result in the best video playback on the TyTN II.
Forgive me if this is posted somewhere else, but I could not find it when searching.
I'm running WM 6.1 Sleuth 3.0 with TCPMP 0.81.
How about the best settings for Coreplayer as well. Also running Sleuth 3.0. Sleuth any comments, you seem to have Coreplayer as well.
Jckf said:
Hi.
I'd like to know which settings result in the best video playback on the TyTN II.
Forgive me if this is posted somewhere else, but I could not find it when searching.
I'm running WM 6.1 Sleuth 3.0 with TCPMP 0.81.
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There is no best settings!
It's all about how you rip your movies!!
Have you ever heard the phrase, "Garbage in, Garbage out"
If you start out with a quality file, you won't need TCPMP to enhance or make it better.
All my movies are .avi and I use Clone DVD Mobile to rip them. Personally, I haven't had any issues playng movies with TCPMP or CORE Player.
All my settings are default
I'm copying videos that are not converted in any special way to play back good on mobile devices.
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dwny said:
There is no best settings!
It's all about how you rip your movies!!
Have you ever heard the phrase, "Garbage in, Garbage out"
If you start out with a quality file, you won't need TCPMP to enhance or make it better.
All my movies are .avi and I use Clone DVD Mobile to rip them. Personally, I haven't had any issues playng movies with TCPMP or CORE Player.
All my settings are default
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guys what dwny said is right .....but also you can search online for any dvd to ipod (zune) program and it will work as good also!!
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SO far I noticed 2 things that effected quality of video.
I ripped 2 avi with different settings.
Video A was in 320x240 (cropped), 26fps
Video B was in 512x384 (unedited), 29fps
1) Video A played smoothly throughout. Audio lag was evident after about 1.5 hrs. Otherwise very watchable. Thus I figured 26fps is max for the Kaiser.
2) The video B skipped and dragged. Audio stayed in sync. When I selected TCPMP to play video B in full original size (overlapping the screen) it played smoother. Thus I figure that resizing is too much for the cpu of the Kaiser so when you encode, select 320x240.
fyi, audio was mp3 128kbps, 44000 on both.
I should specify what I mean by full original size.
Options --> Zoom ---> 100%
Also should specify I mean "when encoding select 320x240" MAXIMUM which will reduce the load on the cpu for video resizing.
You know, sometimes, you just happens to have badly ripped (poorly, or improperly or whatever but someone else did it and you don't have control) video but would like to watch it.
So, looking for better settings to improve the viewing.....
Latest video codec? audio codec? cache? how to set it? Where to get it from?........
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SO far I noticed 2 things that effected quality of video.
I ripped 2 avi with different settings.
Video A was in 320x240 (cropped), 26fps
Video B was in 512x384 (unedited), 29fps
1) Video A played smoothly throughout. Audio lag was evident after about 1.5 hrs. Otherwise very watchable. Thus I figured 26fps is max for the Kaiser.
2) The video B skipped and dragged. Audio stayed in sync. When I selected TCPMP to play video B in full original size (overlapping the screen) it played smoother. Thus I figure that resizing is too much for the cpu of the Kaiser so when you encode, select 320x240.
fyi, audio was mp3 128kbps, 44000 on both.
I should specify what I mean by full original size.
Options --> Zoom ---> 100%
Also should specify I mean "when encoding select 320x240" MAXIMUM which will reduce the load on the cpu for video resizing.
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Why wouldn't you just encode it to the natural screen size, and why wouldn't it having to resize bigger rips slow it down?
This is a pretty strange post.. Walking a mile is easier than running a mile. Walking a mile with nothing on your back is easier than walking a mile with Yoda on your back.
Common sense
Hello,
The new core player 1.2.1 with youtube integration is OUT !!!
Go to Mobihand and enjoy.
Private69.
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Great news thanks
As core player does not have a trial, and is pretty expensive, could you do some screen shots of this feature?
Surur
just check out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRNkuEfx7j4
Cool. Thanks. Pretty nice. Looks like I will be shelling out, after refusing to pay for software without a trial for more than a year now.
Anyway, any way to get core player to play .flv files saved from YouTube. I know it does not support it natively, but I wonder if there is a hack or not.
Surur
Youtube integration works like a charm but trying to use H.264 for streaming (highest quality) makes me lose ~75% of the frames.
I dunno I guess I didn't expect it to be perfect but it's totally unwatchable. The medium settings works fine but looks worse than the flash video bundle with tcpm. (The actual interface is retty nice though a bit unresponsive and it doesn't always bring up the video when clicking a video, thus making you have to change "view" to see the actual video. pretty annoying.)
That youtube integration looks kinda slick.
I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.
I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.
Gibbs said:
I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.
I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.
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eeks, h.264 youtube LOOKS great, but as undac pointed out...it's unwatchable... dropped-frame city...
medium setting RUNS great but looks bad...
so still flash video player and tcpmp for quality youtube...
if you just wanted to watch a video asap and didn't mind the quality, well medium setting core player would work ...
I tried the new version and really like the YT interface. I played several videos via WiFi and 3G and saw good results, video's only dropped about 5 frames in 2,500 pretty consistant with both radios with h.264's and zero frames with MPEG4s.
To select videos, I pressed the "i" icon on the right of each video, then in the larger info screen, pressed the play icon. Worked every time and seemed pretty responsive as well.
Edit, Oops, that was with the stock settings (Medium), when I changed the network setting for YT to high quality, the Kaiser chokes as reported. It played 101 frames and dropped 1515! Is this strictly a Kaiser/Tilt missing video driver issue??? and other PDA's function with this setting??
Just tested several H.264 Videos over wifi. 10000k frames played 400 dropped - frame rate 25.68. Thats pretty acceptable to me.
Not sure why my is performing better than some. Yes I did check to make sure it was h.264 High.
any1 have the cab for this? I know its not free I have purchased it but for some reason handago didnt provide me with the link for new version they still are selling the old one.
thesoulpoet said:
any1 have the cab for this? I know its not free I have purchased it but for some reason handago didnt provide me with the link for new version they still are selling the old one.
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I am sure they will have it soon enough. No warez posting is allowed here. Mobihand.com of course has it already and I have to say it really is working nice. Love the youtube interface and streaming is really flawless with hsdpa.
High quality (H264) YouTube playback over wifi on my HTC Advantage is virtually flawless in CP 1.2.1 - I have it set to use the ATI Imageon video decoder w/acceleration selected. Supposedly the ATI chip doesn't have the capability to do hardware acceleration of H264 but in CP 1.2 and 1.2.1 I get incredibly smooth playback of H264 video (not at 640x480 unfortunately).
Can anyone advise on optimum settings van CorePlayer?
YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?
chezzorilla said:
YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?
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I would just suggest you make sure under video settings you have the qtv option selected.
chezzorilla said:
YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?
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The "default" setting for Youtube video's is the crappy 3gp mode
to get H.264 goto
menu -> tools -> preferences -> Network
and amend the "YouTube Format" to "h264 (High Quality)"
Also make sure
menu -> tools -> preferences -> video
has "video Output" set to "QTV Display" (I'd recommend setting it to GDI first, exit, restart, set to QTv, exist and then restart)
QTv mode has some quirks (it wont display some of my album art) but for video it's way better than GDI
Bratag said:
Just tested several H.264 Videos over wifi. 10000k frames played 400 dropped - frame rate 25.68. Thats pretty acceptable to me.
Not sure why my is performing better than some. Yes I did check to make sure it was h.264 High.
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bratag, can you post links to some youtube vids and your live benchmark on them over wifi at h.264?
I've only tested it a little and so far it seems great to me. Having Youtube integrated kicks ass. Here is a sample I tested:
with three bars on HSDPA and Youtube set to high quality...
Wolverine trailer
320X240 25 fps
1405 frames played
165 frames dropped
actual framerate 22.373
Im sure that larger pixel dimension files will drop more frames. But so far I am happy. This CoreCodec team is the heat. First the QTV overlay and now youtube. Props
It very much depends on the size of the youtube video. Anything over about 480x runs choppy. You have to go down to medium for that. But anything encoded at a lower size than that is fine
I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
Cawley said:
I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
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Get a Zune.
JimmyMcGee said:
Get a Zune.
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I second that Especially the new Zune is really nice. You can connect via your router to sync your music. I just hate the zune syncing software it's such a pain in the ass. I wish we could sync with WMP. I mean come on seriously.
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
I use CorePlayer (based on TCPMP ) to play my Divx files (700 to 900 Mo each resolution 660*360, datarate 1010kbps) without any specific Mobile transcoding and it plays quite well with the right settings, with some rare glitches (but i guess it will never work flawlessly until we have the real Kaiser drivers).
TCPMP is good, but Coreplayer is faster on the Kaiser from my own experience.
The only down side about Coreplayer (aside from the fact its not freeware) is that it cannot play AC3 sound unlike TCPMP (due to open source licence)
why i dont understand it...when i had my standard att WM 6.0 rom that came with my tilt...i watched avis and mpeg4//divx movies CRYSTAL CLEAR....and thatt was with no htc ca driver or none of that ****. And now ive upgraded to WM 6.1..first duttys hybrid then L26 and now garmins...and each rom has the same problem...old tcpmps crash and when i use the repack tcpmp app and it works....i have SLUGGISH and chopppy fps when i watch avi movies and mpeg stufff. How is this possible with all the new drivers and such....it was crystal clear to watch movies with WM 6.0..but with 6.1 its choppy and ****ty playback? has anybody found a better fix for this other then converting the movies to sccreen resolution?
have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
thanks will give it a shot
antihrist said:
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
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on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
amkaos said:
on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
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Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
antihrist said:
Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
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i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
amkaos said:
i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
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I use Core Player for videos. Videos converted with XviD4PSP using my settings does not play well in WM player. You can try it with some other settings.
Here are my current settings:
- Format: MP4 iPod 5.0G
- Denoise/Sharpen: Disabled
- Brightness/Contrast: Disabled
- Video encoding: XviD HQ Ultra
- Audio encoding: AAC-LC ABR 128
I don't know what you mean with "bigger vids", but I use it for converting my divx/xvid movies and shows to MP4 and it works well. I think it supports even DVD files, but i didn't try that.
Last time i checked it took 6 minutes to convert some 30 minutes divx show to MP4 (Athlon X2 4000+, 2GB RAM, GeForce 8800GT).
One more thing about Core Player
Core Player with default setup gives me audio out of sync. But you can adjust that in options.
i tried those settings and didn't get a good result
works now i have upgraded coreplayer ... thanks alot
felixthecat said:
have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
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this was the first result when I googled it. Follow this link
http://files.filefront.com/PocketDivX+Encoder+0360exe/;9172092;/fileinfo.html
Take care
Rod
hotrod101 said:
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
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I use it also. I watch moives on my phone and it works fine playing full screen and BT stereo.
try the new win 6.1 that att put out for the tilt... it might be more stable since it is the new shipping rom
There seem to be loads of flavours of TCPMP floating around but ive yet to find one that does all Im after ....
What im after is the holy grail of video playback, a player that plays:
AVI
MPG
FLV ('all types')
MP4
The versions Ive tried play some FLVs but not others, or AVI but not MPEG.
The version i currently use is GF5500 but its will only play half the FLVs i try - plus it tears a lot on AVI (is this a hardware limitation of the touchpro ?).
Any suggestions ??
The last few phones i have had managed to play most video (the N95 was very good at that) so Im sure that the Touch Pro MUST have the capability for smooth playback surely
Use the cab at the bottom of the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
cheers ... but that was one of the ones i tried before - doesnt play mpeg 4 v2 (according to msg i get) and still doesnt play half my FLVs
unless im doing something wrong - which i wouldnt rule out at all
used to run tcpmp 0.82 on my previous Trinity device, not very impressed with it though (could be the slow, older device though).
not sure I can answer your q.
I use CorePlayer, latest build.
Ditto, I use the latest Core Payer and it plays all my video files including all my flvs. There's an flv plug-in for the TCPMP that I never had any problems with either, but I was happy to pay the developers for the commercial product after using their free player for years of viewing pleasure.
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cheers ... but that was one of the ones i tried before - doesnt play mpeg 4 v2 (according to msg i get) and still doesnt play half my FLVs
unless im doing something wrong - which i wouldnt rule out at all
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TCPMP may not meet all your needs. The link I pointed to seems to be the the best I've found for WM6.1 stability etc. Not sure if you mean WMV9 when you say mpeg4 v2 but if so, you can extend TCPMP funtionality by dropping WM5 codecs into your windows folder.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298126
I also use Coreplayer but keep TCPMP around as I find it best with Orb. Both will play the few .flv clips that I've pulled down from YouTube.
Keep in mind that on Raphael, WMP and HTC Album have access to h/w acceleration in the Qualcomm chipset, and run rings around CorePlayer and TCPMP for supported MP4 formats, including H.264.
We can only hope that CorePlayer will open their wallets to Qualcomm. I, for one, would pay for an upgrade (to my existing corePlayer license).
Cheers
This is a great place!
I have been reading all the threads that might have anything to do with video playback.
I've installed those 3D drivers and graphics were improved on that hologram thing and "light 3d"
Still, video playback is choppy and im grinding my teeth seeing it!
I have converted videos in all kinds of formats in all kids of FPS and KBPS and kept VGA resolution and still no use.
Have i missed something?
thanks!!
what media player are you using dude? ive been using TCMP for the longest time and i have no problems on playing my videos/movies...
i tried using the built in windows media player, coreplayer, and i have used tcpmp once but the bottom taskbar was black so i didnt know what problem that program had.
anyways, the tcpmp didnt play smooth. maybe i had a bad version?
Have you tried viewing some other content other than your own converted files? try using the attached sample avi with all 3 players and see how that goes.
ive tried the videos that came with the phone.
windows media player handles videos much better than coreplayer but still no smooth video.
this is weird, on other ppc's that ive had (a few) coreplayer/tcpmp played videos much better than wmp.
over here its the exact opposite.
how come?
what ROM are you using?
original ROM that came with the diamond.
in my case its 2.o3
israel orange
help? anyone?
I don't know anyone here who is on the same ROM. you could try upgrading the ROM??
what ROM should i use?
can i extract the hebrew that comes with the ROM currently on my diamond?
i kinda need it
well of course that the built in WMP will play the video smoother than the core player. It`s because only WMP can use the hardware accelerator in the phone.
still the core player don`t have the proper drivers to access to the GPU.
ya it plays smoother, but still not smooth.
and theres all this tearing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-481714.html
make sure you use qtv
With TCPMP set Video to GDI.
i installed tcpmp and when i ran it it came up with a message "crashed"
and it won't run.
i used Qtv with the coreplayer and it was still slugish
Be sure you use the version on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519543&highlight=TCPMP
It works great on my Diamond.
Ive installed a tcpmp from another thread from this forum.
It works and plays videos but its still slugish.
Is there a patch or a fix i was supposed to install?
Smooth video playback
Hi all,
I was having problems with jerky video playback.
I did some searching and found this link-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
It works a treat really smooth and in 640 480
WELL DONE
I saw this too...
It doesn't play smooth on my device.
still, this is the program i use to convert video if i wanna play something on my diamond
even tho it stinks (the diamond not the program!)
Hi idandavid,
PM me your email and I will send you a mov video of my Diamond playing a smooth video.
Or send me a video, I will conver it and try playing it on my Diamond. I can then send you the converted file to compare on your Diamond.
Hope this helps
Grez