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WiFi problems

Hi.
I recently bought my s730. Quite pleased with it, but one thing bothers me.
When i connect to my wlan at home (zyxel_2602hw_d1a WPA-PSK TKIP) i'm able to connect to the router, but I don't seem to be able to get an connection to anywhere outside my own network. I tried using Live Messenger, IE, Opera and Skype, but nothing happens.
When I'm using GPRS or EDGE it all works smoothly.
Any suggestions?

Do you have your connection set to automatic or only through your phone network? I have seen a few problems with that.
Also, double check that you are entering wep or any other security protocol correctly, took my 6 tries before it would work, it looked like it was connected to the network but it really wasnt (just personal experience with this phone.)

10332007 said:
Do you have your connection set to automatic or only through your phone network? I have seen a few problems with that.
Also, double check that you are entering wep or any other security protocol correctly, took my 6 tries before it would work, it looked like it was connected to the network but it really wasnt (just personal experience with this phone.)
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I do have the connection settings in both IE and Opera set to automatic. I's there somewhere else I have to change settings?
I'm quite sure i typed the password correctly. I also checked the client list on the router and the phone showed up correctly.

Gah, cant remember where I saw it but there was a setting in the phone itself for what to connect to.
Another thing to try under the wifi connection open your saved connection and go into it and see if you have it set to connect to the internet or just to the private network under "network type" in the Wi-Fi sub menu of Wlan settings. Its late and I cant think right, i'll see about checking more into it later...

I solved this problem - change your WLAN security on your WLAN router only on exactly MAC adressee (no any WEP) and your Wings is allowed to connect and all will be OK, work OK - Skype, IE, Opera. Problem was only to find MAC adressee my Wings

Wing + WRT54GL
Hi!
I have an S730 and a Linksys WRT54GL router. I've tried to use wlan with my phone, but it doesn't working. I want to use WPA2 with AES without Radius. Is the WPA shared key (router) same to network key(phone)? without security and encryption, it's working well.. I cannot see any syslog. That could be so easy..

klenovcok said:
I solved this problem - change your WLAN security on your WLAN router only on exactly MAC adressee (no any WEP) and your Wings is allowed to connect and all will be OK, work OK - Skype, IE, Opera. Problem was only to find MAC adressee my Wings
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I tried removing security for my phone MAC address, but there dosn't seem to be any options on my router allowing this. So I'm still stuck;-/

ksga said:
Hi.
I recently bought my s730. Quite pleased with it, but one thing bothers me.
When i connect to my wlan at home (zyxel_2602hw_d1a WPA-PSK TKIP) i'm able to connect to the router, but I don't seem to be able to get an connection to anywhere outside my own network. I tried using Live Messenger, IE, Opera and Skype, but nothing happens.
When I'm using GPRS or EDGE it all works smoothly.
Any suggestions?
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Did you check network settings? I mean e.g. if you don't use DHCP server and you didn't fill in right settings phone may connect to network but may not get outside. I know it can look like "lame" question, but sometimes even a master can do a newbie mistake..

ksga said:
I tried removing security for my phone MAC address, but there dosn't seem to be any options on my router allowing this. So I'm still stuck;-/
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usually it is in section WLAN Advanced setup - WEP Encryption - disable and in WLAN MAC Filters - active + allow asotiation with table of adress your Wings - aply . I have Zyxel Prestige 660HW.

I'm sure that DHCP is active, and that I get an IP.
I tried disabling security on my router, but same problem. Connects to my router, gets an IP but still nothing works

ksga said:
I'm sure that DHCP is active, and that I get an IP.
I tried disabling security on my router, but same problem. Connects to my router, gets an IP but still nothing works
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Your DNS are also provided automatically? Or could you ping (through some app) to any IP address of any server on the internet? If you succee, then we can look for a mistake with DNS.

Problem solved!!!
Okay. Found the cause for all my sufferings...
Power management. under WLAN-settings i changed power setting from power save mode to best performance...
thanks for all the help. hope next time I have a better question

wifi problem
hello everybody,i have tried several times to connect to my router at home but no chance at the end i got this warning saying:
cannot log on to the wireless network this network requires a personel certificate to positively identify you.

Wireless Wierdness

Help!
I have a Netgear DG834T router as provided by Sky. I have one wired and two wireless connections running into it (let's call them WD, WL1 and WL2 respectively).
On the connections page I can see all of them under "attached devices"...but now I want to connect using my Kaiser (actually an O2 XDA Stellar)
What happens...
On the Kaiser, I get an IP address (assigned by DHCP) as normal - but can't access the internet - or at least, can only access it very rarely - http://www.google.com can't be found, but http://www.bbc.co.uk can. No idea why.
On the router, under "attached devices", not only can I NOT see the Kaiser, but WL1 and WL2 also disappear. WD remains visible. The router cannot ping the IP address of the Kaiser (timed out). If I disable WiFi on the Kaiser, then WL1 and WL2 are immediately visible again. Internet connection on WL1 and WL2 works, even when they are not visible.
I HAVE connected to this network before without any problems.
What the hooting heck is going on, and how do I fix it?
Thanks!

Time to troubleshoot! What happens with this phone on another wireless network. We need to determine if it's the phone or the network. Do you have any friends with a phone like this? Can you use their phone on your network? Do you have any ROMs flashed, has this phone ever been on the network without problems?
If the phone works on another router try looking for firmware updates for the router. Those things really do need to be updated often and it could have something to do with that.

Only have access to one network :-(. Might be a couple of weeks before I can access a hotel one or something like that.
Think next door neighbour has similar phone, but different provider...will try if he'll let me!
No ROMS flashed.
It connected fine when I first had it. As far as I know, I've changed nothing since then.
2 out of 4 answered...with an option on three...I'll get back to you as soon as I've beaten up my neighbour and stolen his phone...
Joke!

There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.

ChumleyEX said:
There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.
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You = US, me = UK. We still think the biro is a recent invention...

Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.

Same here
I get the same with the router from sky.
Kaiser says I have an IP address, 192.168.0.5, but the it doesn't show up on the attached devices on the router.
What I find that works is hit renew IP maybe twice until you get a really wierd IP address like
169.254.*.**, actually not sure if I'm picking up another network, but for some reason I don't think I am.
I can then browse the web and sync via wifi.
Really pisses me of that it says that it has an IP address but doesn't connect.

1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"

Yeah I agree, there is something up with that router.

Grey Area said:
Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.
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with my router.....i have to set the wifi power mode on my kaiser to "best performance", any other setting and i get that "associated to network" ****. been this way every since the hermes and the wizard.

unwired4 said:
1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"
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No, proxy set-up as the device was bought unbranded in US.
Because there are issues with this router, encryption and media streaming devices, I have only restricted the mac addresses with no encryption.
Still don't know about the 169. ip address beacuse doesn't seem to come up as am ISP.

Now then, how wierd is this?
After all these issues and kind of giving up on it as a bad job, I also noticed that out on the road, my GPRS wasn't working either - TomTom couldn't connect to the "plus" traffic service.
I get on the phone to O2 who told me that my phone hadn't been "provisioned". After one false start where they didn't seem to do anything about it, I have just (literally) had them tell me to go to the O2 Operator settings and tell it to update the "O2 UK Post Pay_GPRS" and reboot.
GPRS now works. And magically, so does my WiFi - IP address negotiated and full access to internet and my router's setup page granted. Working like a charm again.
So - seems to me it's an account setting, and nothing to do with either me poor ol' router or me nice new phone.
For completeness, I was occasionally getting the 169 IP address too, so it sounds like we have EXACTLY the same problem - suggest you get onto your service provider ASAP.

Wifi Internet

Hey guys, i got my kaiser a couple of days ago. Its a brilliant machine and i love using internet on it using my wifi connection at home. Suddenly it has stopped browsing the internet. It connects to wifi alright, show good strength signal and everything but when i enter a web address it takes ages to respond and in the end gives the error 'check name and try again.' what's wrong with it...?
i'd appreciate if some could help.
P.S. i have done countless soft resets and a hard reset as well.
cheers

I've had problems like that before. By any chance is your router named something like Linksys or default? I'm wondering if it's connecting but not using the correct profile. I'm not sure about the phones but on a computer you can connect to wifi that is wep enabled without a wep key. You can't get any data from the router but it shows your connected.
Also have you tried another access point to rule out your router?

Don't you have to go to wifi settings and change it from BEST PERFORMANCE to BEST BATTERY or is it the other way around?

ChumleyEX said:
I've had problems like that before. By any chance is your router named something like Linksys or default? I'm wondering if it's connecting but not using the correct profile. I'm not sure about the phones but on a computer you can connect to wifi that is wep enabled without a wep key. You can't get any data from the router but it shows your connected.
Also have you tried another access point to rule out your router?
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No, i haven't tried any other AP, its my home network and i have only one router. Its quite an old one but i am sure its not from linksys. Last time i successfuly used wifi internet on my kaiser was a few hours ago before i installed a remote desktop access program on my kaiser. I have uninstalled it now but the problem remains.

The phone might have profiles based on the name of the router, so if you have a common name and it picks another one up of that name, it could cause this sort of problem.

ChumleyEX said:
The phone might have profiles based on the name of the router, so if you have a common name and it picks another one up of that name, it could cause this sort of problem.
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So what do i need to change, the name of the router or the profile on the kaiser, by the way , where is the profile on the pocket pc ?
P.S. its Belkin and the called WLAN.

go into the com manager and hit settings, then wireless lan. You might want to look around in there to see if you can remove the profile.

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ChumleyEX said:
go into the com manager and hit settings, then wireless lan. You might want to look around in there to see if you can remove the profile.
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Hi again, you wouldn't believe what i am about to tell you. The problem gets solved like magic just with a couple of clicks. In your power settings for the wireless network, change it from best battery life to best performance and voila! it starts working. The moment you change it back to best battery life, it dies out. I have tested it time and again and use another utility called 'vxutil' to use different commands like ping and see information like default gateways and DNS and DHCP but everything was alright.
P.S. this will only work if the network settings are correct ALREADY!
Thanks for the help guys!

GUIDE! your diamond or other wm6.1 device as the main internet access via your router

Hello This guide is made up from the knowledge i have build up from advice given on XDA and information on other sites.
I have found this very useful in my home and hope you do to.
First off, this guide explains everything you need to do to use your diamond as the access point to the internet at home for all devices. (PC's, PS3, XBOX360, Wii)
It is highly recommended that you have a unlimited data allowance!!!!! Otherwise you could have a hefty bill at the end of the month.
Right what you will need :
A Diamond with an unlimited data allowance tariff,
A WiFi router (i have used an old router that was installed with Tiscali BB)
WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (please find this your self i will not provide it)
and some basic knowledge of networking on PC's and your devices.
Thats it. Please don't be put off by the networking side of things its really easy to do.
Right first off we need to get your diamond taking to your router.
switch on your router and let it do its thing for 2-4 mins
Connect your diamond to the wifi router by switching on your wifi in settings, communications on touchflow, when prompted, connect to your router and enter your network key.
THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS AS CONNECTING TO A WIFI HOTSPOT.
Its that simple.
Next switch off your wifi in settings, communications.
Install WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (Simple and stable)
once installed open WMWifiRouter and press connect.
This should then setup your phone to be used as a access point and connect to your wireless network all at once.
Once it says connected you can turn off your phones main screen by pressing the off switch at the top and put your phone where there is best signal! HSDPA is needed to get up 7.2mbps (little H in signal area)
Right now you need to setup your laptop or device to talk to the phone via your router!
So here are the settings you need to setup in either TCP/IP (manual connection) or a manual connection on your device (PS3, Wii, XBOX360).
I will use a laptops connection as a example because all you need to do is to copy the settings to another device using a different IP address.
If you use wifi or a hardwired connection, right click the telly with the wifi connection in the bottom right of the screen and click open network connections (XP only dont know for vista), Or if the telly is not displayed in the bottom righthand cornner of the task bar then click start, control panel, network connections.
Click on the connection you wish to use i.e local area connection or wireless network connection (you can setup both connections by repeating these steps on each connection)
this should bring up a general tab of this connection, click properties.
This will bring up another box with the network properties, all you need to do is manually enter your IP settings and DNS settings so double click on "internet protocol [TCP/IP]"
Another box appears.
Click "use the following IP address"
In IP address type "192.168.0.xxx" xxx being the unique 3 digit code of your choice, write this down for your firewall settings on other devices if you run a networked drive etc. Each new device will need its own unique 3 digit code ie PC = 192.168.0.100, XBOX360 = 192.168.0.200, Wii = 192.168.0.123 etc.
In Subnet mask type "255.255.255.0"
In Default gate way type "192.168.0.1
Now click "Use the following DNS server address"
In preferred DNS server type "192.168.0.1"
Thats it, press ok and ok on any other boxes still left open.
Your network device will rest your IP and DNS settings to the ones you have just entered, thus allowing you computer to access the mobiles phones internet connection via your router
On all your devices Manually setup all your connections using these settings and they will all use your mobile phone to connect to the internet.
Using DHCP to configure your network is not advised as its unreliable at finding your phones connection.
Now if you want to start using your phone as a phone again, open up WMWifiRouter again if its not already and click options Quit.
To get internet access on other devices via your phone again all you need to do is to start WMWifiRouter and press connect. Start using the internet!!!
If you wish to use your laptop on another hotspot, you will need to reset the TCP/IP settings back to automatic, otherwise it will not work.
Using this process sometimes causes the phone to disable its own internet connection, so a soft reset after exiting WMWifiRouter is recommended.
Have fun, im sorry if its all a little messy but i have never been very good at writing these guides.
If any modd wants to add or edit this post then please feel free. any persons wanting to add to this guide please do so.
Yes i know you can connect your phone to your laptop by USB, Bluetooth, but this method allows multiple devices to use the same phone to access the internet at the same time and via a access point at the highest possible speed, so games consoles can use it!!! Brilliant if you get a good HSDPA signal and live in the country.
Oh one last thing! if you are a youngster and wish to try this, please do so on other equipment, don't use your family's main router and laptop or PC unless its no longer in use!!!
Thank You

i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.

Cheers
Thanks for reading
Its does work, In my home i no longer have a land line or cable broadband i just have one bill a month which is my phone bill of £41 including insurance on my device and i get every thing, i have saved my self a fortune per year doing this, that was my reason anyway hehe L8rs
mgs333 said:
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work

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Thank you good luck with the move
kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Because the data going through the phone will really heat up the phone, as a side benefit you'll be able to use it as both a heater, and a stove until your appliances are hooked up.
Just how many torrents does it take to boil 1 cup of water?

I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed

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your are correct, if you use WMWfiRouter directly with with your computer it does seem slow and you also get a lot of drop outs as well for that reason i stopped using months ago and was using bluetooth edr. But using this method respose times are much much quicker (to be honest i dont know why) and it is just as fast as using with USB, i know i have tested it. Im on orange UK, i get constant 1.6mbps down and 360kbps up with two bars connected the HSDPA network.
Im using it right now to reply to this thread, i got rid of my land lane and broadband connection because this is that stable and fast!
As for heating issues (poster above) once its connected and you turn off the screen, i have never had a issue. i even keep it in its HTC pouch in case it falls of the shelf its on lol.
The only problem i have come across which is more of a annoyance than anything is that when someone phones you it can slow your connection not always though, a soft reset fixes the issue.
Any more questions feel free.
chribruu said:
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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[Q] Switching between routers within the same wifi

Hey guys, I got a problem with wifi on my One. The thing is I got a couple of wifi routers in my house (one can't cover the entire building) and they're both broadcasting the same SSID, password etc. basically one is connected via RJ45 to the other and set up exactly the same way. Problem is when I move around the house and lose connection to one of my routers and the phone automatically connects to the other all my connections on the phone stop working and I have to turn my wifi off and on again. Same thing happens when I'm at my university, each floor has 2 wifi routers on it and phone tends to jump between them screwing up the internet connection each time. I know it might not be the biggest issue in the world but still it's quite annoying especially since my old SGS didn't have this problem. My phone is not branded and of course up to date. Thanks for any advice.

theleet said:
Hey guys, I got a problem with wifi on my One. The thing is I got a couple of wifi routers in my house (one can't cover the entire building) and they're both broadcasting the same SSID, password etc. basically one is connected via RJ45 to the other and set up exactly the same way. Problem is when I move around the house and lose connection to one of my routers and the phone automatically connects to the other all my connections on the phone stop working and I have to turn my wifi off and on again. Same thing happens when I'm at my university, each floor has 2 wifi routers on it and phone tends to jump between them screwing up the internet connection each time. I know it might not be the biggest issue in the world but still it's quite annoying especially since my old SGS didn't have this problem. My phone is not branded and of course up to date. Thanks for any advice.
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From my experience after installing a lot of different wifi's in different operation modes, it all depends on how exactly the routers have been setup.
But to answer your initial question- the topic at hand; as long as the wifi's broadcasts the same SSID, you cannot choose which of the two individual routers you want to connect to. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik this is not possible. If you want the possibility to choose, then set them up with different SSID's. This would be the _easiest_ solution, just make sure they broadcasts at different frequencies with at least 5 channels apart, i.e. channel 1 and 6, or 6 and 11, or 1 and 11. These are the most popular ones in the 2.4 GHz spectrum. If you use 5 GHz you have a lot more to choose from.
Now, if it's important that your network works seamlessly (with the same SSID), I can provide a step by step guide upon request.
But the solution to your current problem, from my experience; yes you have to turn the wifi off and then on again to "force" the wlan-card on your cell phone to -faster- connect to the closest router, otherwise it will take maybe 15-45 seconds before it does this automatically. It's basically the same with computers. This mostly happens if the wlan-card are within range of both networks, but it will try to stay connected to current one before changing.
And there are some important guidelines to follow when you connect one router to another if they are from the same brand (because of the ip-range and gateway). I once had to setup 8 wifi-routers in a house, because of the size and the thick concrete walls (same SSID)...

The problem is my laptops and other phones don't seem to have this problem, also the phone doesn't 'fix' itself after 40 or so secs it just stays broken as far as I've noticed forever (or at least till i leave my house). Also it doesn't have a problem connecting to the other router, it loses connection, looks for available networks, finds my other router, connects and... nothing works. Exact same thing at the university, finds routers, connects with 5/5 bars and it just doesn't work.

theleet said:
The problem is my laptops and other phones don't seem to have this problem, also the phone doesn't 'fix' itself after 40 or so secs it just stays broken as far as I've noticed forever (or at least till i leave my house). Also it doesn't have a problem connecting to the other router, it loses connection, looks for available networks, finds my other router, connects and... nothing works. Exact same thing at the university, finds routers, connects with 5/5 bars and it just doesn't work.
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Are you sure you have it setup with DHCP and not some static ip-settings? Can you post some screenshots of your wifi-settings?
If you haven't tried already, get your phone to "forget" it's settings so you have to reenter the password and make sure it's set to DHCP. But first take out the power from both your routers so they get a reboot, and make sure the ethernetcable is connected from one of the LAN ports on the main router connected to the internet (from your cable/dsl/fiber-modem), and in to the WAN/Internet port on the secondary router. Btw what routers do you use as master and slave?

Yes of course I have the routers set up just like you say And yes I'm using DHCP on both of them. They are Airlive 1600GL with tomato rom as main and WR740N as secondary. I took screenshots of what seemed relevant sorry the main router's settings are not in English but it seems that would require me to reflash it with a different rom.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2668574/HTC One/Screenshot_2013-12-20-23-22-28.png
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theleet said:
Yes of course I have the routers set up just like you say And yes I'm using DHCP on both of them. They are Airlive 1600GL with tomato rom as main and WR740N as secondary. I took screenshots of what seemed relevant sorry the main router's settings are not in English but it seems that would require me to reflash it with a different rom.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2668574/HTC One/Screenshot_2013-12-20-23-22-28.png
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What's with the DNS being 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?

Seraphicus said:
What's with the DNS being 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?
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These are Google DNS.

I would do it simple and solve it by changing the SSID on the slave router to something different, like wireless2, and change channel to 1. Or change the channel on the master router from 8 to 11. Your phone will probably change from one network to another faster this way, or it's at least easier for you to manually choose.
If that doesn't help, and the network is 100% problemfree for other wireless devices, I guess it must be a firmware or hardware problem with your One's wlan-card. Most likely firmware.

I will try it in the morning but still I'm pretty confident it's not the matter of setting up my home network but rather One's software bug. I can't say with 100% certainty right now but I don't remember having this issue before the update to the newest Android version.

Both routers need to be on the same subnet, enable dhcp server on one and disable it on the second one. Also set the second one as an access point only with a static ip in the same subnet.
The problem you have now is that wireless clients must negotiate a new ip when switching routers because of different subnets assigned to each.
Let me know if you need more details.

But still that would fix the problem at my home, what about when I'm somewhere else?

What ROM are you running? I leave wifi enabled all the time and haven't had any issues moving between networks, it automatically connects when another network is in range.

Android 4.3 with Sense 5.5 all stock not even rooted.

Since your completely stock it should just work. I'd try fixing the home network first and see if that solves the issue at home, then move on to trying to figure out the network issue at school.
Router1 - master
Internet connected to wan port
Cable from lan port to a lan port on router2
Dhcp: enabled with an ip range of 192.168.1.100 and up
Lan ip 192.168.1.1
Channel 1
Router2 - slave
Nothing connected to wan port
Cable from Router1 lan port to lan port on this router
Dhcp: disabled
Lan ip 192.168.1.2
Channel 11
Set ssid and wpa settings the same on both routers.
With this setup clients can hop from one access point to the other without a dhcp request or ip change, should switch within seconds.

cschmitt said:
Since your completely stock it should just work. I'd try fixing the home network first and see if that solves the issue at home, then move on to trying to figure out the network issue at school.
Router1 - master
Internet connected to wan port
Cable from lan port to a lan port on router2
Dhcp: enabled with an ip range of 192.168.1.100 and up
Lan ip 192.168.1.1
Channel 1
Router2 - slave
Nothing connected to wan port
Cable from Router1 lan port to lan port on this router
Dhcp: disabled
Lan ip 192.168.1.2
Channel 11
Set ssid and wpa settings the same on both routers.
With this setup clients can hop from one access point to the other without a dhcp request or ip change, should switch within seconds.
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Tried that setup for many times over the years I've worked with routers, from my experience that is unstable.