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Cool ways to use the GPS in the Kaiser

There are two apps that I have used that I must say make the GPS built into the Kaiser along with its data connectivity pretty cool. Of course, the GPS is a great tool for mapping software such as TomTom, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live Search, and others... but the possibilities of GPS in a connected device like the Kaiser can lead to many other great things. Two that I have found useful are Mobile Justice and 3d Tracking. Here is a quick description of what they are.
First, I have installed Mobile Justice which alerts you when a SIM card is changed and will send a text message to a number of your choosing when it is changed... for example it was stolen and a card was sent in. It can also send the current GPS location. In addition, you can send the device a text message with a keyword and request at any time, the current GPS location. You can also put a message on the device screen. I know people often cook this application into ROMs. I hope that someone does this for a future Kaiser kitchen. I learned about the new GPS features here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/mobile_justice_sms_your_phone.html
The other app that I have used that is kind of nifty is 3d tracking. It updates your GPS location in near real time to a website that you can use a PC to monitor. The mapping is done using Google maps. Very cool way to keep track of valuables such as your teenagers. ;-)
http://free.3dtracking.net/home.aspx
What other cool uses for the GPS have you found to use with your Kaiser?

I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II

y2whisper said:
I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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I did see that in the forums which just made the camera in the phone that much more useful. Very useful when on hikes or vacationing to take a quick snapshot. Sure, the camera on the phone is not a replacement for a high quality digital camera, but it is convenient and in outdoor light, does a pretty good job. Combined with the GPS tagging, it is fun too. I hope we get to see even more uses for the integrated GPS.

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y2whisper said:
I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.

Similar to your Mobile Justice product, here's one I saw the other day. Its kind of like LoJack for your phone:
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html
It You can have your phone let you know where it is if its ever lost.

The company I work for does gps tracking for sports (running, skiing etc). I won't post the link, as i dont want to be seen as advertising.
But its pretty cool to be able to see how fast you ski (57.2mph is my fastest so far).

Someone sent me a note on this site that does something similar to 3d tracking. I will try it out now to see how it works.
http://gps.gpsxml.com/

Here is another tool that has a description with features similar to WIMP (Where Is My Phone) and Mobile Justice. Has anyone heard of it or tested it before? It is called Ultimate Theft Alert and has GPS as an add-on option.
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html

I had no idea there were so many tools for GPS integrated mobile phones. Here is another freebie, this time from a well known PPC developer, VITO Technology. It is called FindMe
http://www.vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html

And for those with coding experience... here is an example with source code.
http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/FindMe.asp

swarnabhab said:
Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
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Basic use would be if you wanted to add pictures to a map (google earth i believe supports this) you take a picture and in geomarks your pic.
It is basically done by regedit - you can read more on this in this exact forum (should be on page one or two -- easy for us to say this while the kaiser forum is still fresh)

Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.

yeah the file download was down before, working now, will try this one out

ericb said:
Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
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This is free for now it seems. I will try it out. Do you know if it is any different than 3d tracking? That one is free too.

Had a quick look t 3d tracking, reprion looks to do asimilar thing.
Both seem pretty cool anyway

Some more interesting GPS software: http://www.jgui.net/gps/index.html
Personal observation: There should be a standard for SMS messages whereby the GPS coordinates of the sender can be sent along with text or mms messages. This would be handy for location based services and when chatting with friends.

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ericb said:
Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
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AND PDA ! )
http://geocool.reperion.com

Somthing wrong with the GPS
Hi
There's something definitely wrong with the GPS happening from time to time.
Today, TomTom was off by nearly 1 kilometre using the internal GPS. Using BT GPS everything was fine.
After a restart: the location was spot on again.
It has happened to me 3-4 times now that the GPS is completely off the charts.
Wonder if this could be fixed with a Radio ROM update ..

swarnabhab said:
Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
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Sorry to maybe possible hijack this threat a little. I am also using smart2go. But I can't download any maps to my MicroSD with the Maploader. It always complaint that there is no space in my card (which has 3.7GB free). How were you able to download the maps to your card?
Many thanks in advance!
PS. Never mind. I found out that Smart2Go probably has a problem with storage cards larger than 2GB as if I use smaller MicroSD cards, the Map Loader works fine. So the solution is to run Smart2Go with a blank 2G or smaller card, then copy the files to the 4G MicroSDHC. Then Map Loader works (with a size limit of 1.8G for map data).....

Ok so still having some problems.
As noted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332811
Some programs don't instal for me, WIMP did install however (haven't tested it yet) so my assumption would be some kind of security setting that is on when installing cabs, do you guys turn it off? (i remember there was a way to do this with the Hermes) or do these apps just install out of the box (per se)?
EDIT:
Looks like its some kind of problem when i transfer the file over via activesync to the card. I put it on via straight pc to another card and it installs fine.

OCR like world card mobile?

Is there an OCR program for our phone which would let you take a photo of a document/magazine etc and convert that into text. A bit like the worldcard Mobile app but more versatile. I have searched and have so far come up with nothing.
If anyone knows of such an application please can you point me in the right direction.

There is quipit or something named like that, that allows your phone to work as a scanner. You take a picture of the document, then email it to their server and they convert it to pdf for you. Try a search for quipit or similar through google, it should show up.

There is also a service called Scanr (Scanr.com) that does the same thing.

Thanks guys but I was looking for something that was entirely on the phone so I could take a picture with the camera and then transfer it to text. Would be so much quicker than typing out or pairing up to send some stuff. Never mind I'm sure someone will come up with it one day.

Here is a free OCR software from Joerg Schulenburg under GPL licence:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&safe=active&as_qdr=all&q=ocr+Schulenburg&btnG=Suche&lr=lang_en
It is just a backend-software but it runs with Pocket PC. We would need a WM6 frontend (GUI) with an integration of the Kaiser-camera.
Hompage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jocr/
Download:
http://pocketpedia.de/gocr_download/

heinz2007 said:
Here is a free OCR software from Joerg Schulenburg under GPL licence:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&safe=active&as_qdr=all&q=ocr+Schulenburg&btnG=Suche&lr=lang_en
It is just a backend-software but it runs with Pocket PC. We would need a WM6 frontend (GUI) with an integration of the Kaiser-camera.
Hompage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jocr/
Download:
http://pocketpedia.de/gocr_download/
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I went to the web page but unfortunately I'm not that intelligent to work out what I needed to do. I need an app to put on my phone to do it all for me! Like World card Mobile does.

GOCR is a free software, that may fit to xda-developers.
http://dfn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jocr/gocr-0.44.tar.gz
There is a short manual inside, but it is no turnkey solution. GOCR even supports OCR for a proper handwriting.
Here is at least a Windows Frontend to GOCR:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphic/Graphic-Others/GOCR-Windows-Frontend.shtml
Maybe later GORC can become an app to put on the Kaiser (to do it all for us - like World card Mobile does).

Desktopflame said:
I went to the web page but unfortunately I'm not that intelligent to work out what I needed to do. I need an app to put on my phone to do it all for me! Like World card Mobile does.
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Then you may have to wait a bit for someone else to do the work for you so all you have to do it run the .cab
At least one of the TyTN II localized phones didn't even come with World Card Mobile, so you at least have something.

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You can use the ocr sdk for mobile devices from ABBYY.it is not free though.
http://www.abbyy.com/sdk/?param=56223
using this sdk, you can convert any image to text, either by using the camera or by browsing to an image file and processing it using the ocr.

tommy.touma said:
You can use the ocr sdk for mobile devices from ABBYY.it is not free though.
http://www.abbyy.com/sdk/?param=56223
using this sdk, you can convert any image to text, either by using the camera or by browsing to an image file and processing it using the ocr.
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Has anyone gotten this working with either GOCR or the ABBYY.it sdk? Or has anyone found an alternative application? The ABBYY FotoReader software would be perfect if there was a Windows Mobile version (existing version is for PC). If I was a software developer and had the time I'd get the sdk going, but it's beyond me at the moment. It really would be great to take a picture of a document and have it ocr'd right then available on your handheld like World Card Mobile does for business cards.

OCR
Hello every body
I’m looking for Automatic Number Plate Recognition software (OCR Optical character recognition) for Pocket PC.
I want to use it to recognize a license plate.
Is there anyone who already hears about it or use this kind of technology?
Thanks,

Barcorama - barcode reader software [Updated 11/Oct/09]

Hey everybody!
I'm creating this thread to keep the Barcorama related discussion in a dedicated thread. The discussion spawned here.
Barcorama is a Zxing-based (http://code.google.com/p/zxing/) barcode reader software developed by me in C#. The program's main purpose is to provide a free (and hopefully powerful) tool in the consumer's toolchain!
Feel free to try out and comment on it.
The tool is being developed on my Kaiser, so any feedback on how it performs on other devices is welcomed!
Basic Usage (not yet updated for v0.9x:
a. Press the "Shoot" button to launch the phones camera wizard and take a photo of the barcode by pressing the front "OK" button, or the normal side-shoot button. Barcorama will return automatically upon capture and try to recognize the code.
b. Press the "Open" button to launch the file dialog and navigate/select a previously taken photo. Again, after loading the photo, recognition starts.
After a successful recognition, a popup message may ask whether to run the specified external program with the recognized code. The program along with its arguments is specified in the settings. The code will be inserted wherever the !###! string is be found (may be multiple times).
In general, my tests show that the autofocus camera feature seems to achieve a good result when holding the phone more then 5cm away from the target.
Source code is available here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/barcorama/
or download the trunk snapshot here: http://barcorama.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/barcorama/trunk.tar.gz?view=tar
Features:
-- Recognizes 1D and 2D barcodes. See the google page for details. Version 0.3 is currently incorporated.
-- Runs an external program to pass the recognized code
Requirements:
- NETCF v2.0
ChangeLog:
v0.9h
-- ability for "continuous operation". After successful recognition, continues scanning/shooting/etc...
-- option to beep after successful recognition. Useful in "continuous operation"
v0.9g (for Testing!):
-- Costpad fixes regarding same name shops
-- QR recognition working (thanx to mao xuchu!). Mind though that proper result handling is not present.
-- BUGFIX: many settings were not holding on their value
v0.9f (for Testing!):
-- Memory optimization. Thanx user jeutaw for reporting the bug!
v0.9e (for Testing!):
-- BUGFIX: fixed exception at the end of the purchase submit procedure
v0.9d (for Testing!):
-- Warning: a bug has already been identified regarding the ability to submit purchases to costpad.com. Perhaps you want to wait a few hours until I get home and fix it <-- FIXED in v0.9e
-- Manual entry of the barcode (useful when scan/shoot/open methods fail)
-- More finger-oriented purchase date entry method
-- Able to register a new shop through Barcorama
-- Smoother button fading
-- Various fixes
v0.9c (for Testing!):
-- GUI fixes (should now cope better with high-res devices)
v0.9b (for Testing!):
-- not connecting to the Internet at startup
v0.9a (for Testing!):
-- Preliminary Costpad.com integration
v0.8a:
-- Reintroduced the "Live" mode (thanks to WiMo project), where continuous capturing is performed (low resolution only, thanks to HTC... )
-- Experimental Autofocus tweak! Manually triggering the autofocus capability so to make the "Live" mode usable. Warning: not all devices/roms will be compatible!
v0.7a:
-- Better File open method
-- Minor interface changes
v0.6:
-- Elastic GUI layout. Supporting landscape mode and greater resolutions.
v0.5c:
- Bugfix: Normal handling of spaces in external program's path and arguments
- Added a program icon (thanx nibblah)
v0.5b:
- Bugfix: proper saving/loading of external program settings.
v0.5
- Can now run an external program passing the recognized barcode.
v0.4d
- Small fix for QR decoding
v0.4c
- Upgraded ZXing to 0.4.5 for 1D barcodes (only)
v0.4b
- Fixed a nasty bug that disabled EAN and UPC codes!
v0.4
- Able to individually select what barcode types to try
- Option for selecting whether automatic return from the Camera application is desired. When not selected, the user has to manually exit the Camera application, beign able this way to recapture before decode
- Added a clickable link in the About page to easily reach this forum
- Black appearance
v0.3b
- Incorporated a ZXing bugfix regarding code-39 decoding
- Added a popup question to copy a recognized code into the clipboard
v0.3
- Tweaked usage of the .net camera API. Using a file based method to detect when the capture was performed.
- Automatically returning back to the application after the user shoots the photo. No second "OK" is needed.
- Better UI behavior by using background thread for camera capture and image decoding
- Various bugfixes
Known Issues:
-- False recognitions (encountered some EAN13 faults)
-- 3megapixel photos cannot be loaded
-- After shooting, image appears 90-degrees counter-clockwise rotated. Recognition works though.
Have fun!
hypest
P.S Please, if you encounter a bug/problem, report it and add your hardware/software configuration, or fill your signature with such info. Reporting of successful trials is also welcomed
Removed: The "speedy" version was removed as it was not functioning on par with the "normal" version...
Added a cab file that includes the .exe and creates a Start Menu shortcut. The shortcut seems to be missing the proper icon and perhaps it won't work in Non-English installations. Removed the ..v07a.zip as the cab seems stable.
Removed: The "Barcorama.zip" as it was too old...

I'm not experiencing crashes anymore, but the app doesn't appear to be receiving the photo taken after pressing shoot etc. I tried leaving the app for a minute, in case it was too busy processing to show anything on screen, but to no avail. If I take a photo manually, it is able to process via the OPEN button.
You might want to change the url in the about section into something people are more likely to type into their browser, in case they get the file indirectly... (the tinyurl would be http://tinyurl.com/2kxkuj for example, a little shorter at least)
The other files that came with the previous versions of Barcorama (WiMoNative.dll, and the OpenNETCF.etc.etc), can they be removed from the program's directory?
PS Thanks for all your work so far

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I'm not experiencing crashes anymore, but the app doesn't appear to be receiving the photo taken after pressing shoot etc. I tried leaving the app for a minute, in case it was too busy processing to show anything on screen, but to no avail. If I take a photo manually, it is able to process via the OPEN button.
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After taking the photo, do you manually press OK (or the "return" icon), or do you just leave it to return on its own? I think, the Nadavi's camera version, after some seconds returns automatically but it's actually a "cancel", not an "OK".
SilentlyScreaming said:
You might want to change the url in the about section into something people are more likely to type into their browser, in case they get the file indirectly... (the tinyurl would be http://tinyurl.com/2kxkuj for example, a little shorter at least)
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The long url really sucks, I know. This was just a quick and dirty solution to the "add an About window". I will certainly change it to actually be a clickable link.
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The other files that came with the previous versions of Barcorama (WiMoNative.dll, and the OpenNETCF.etc.etc), can they be removed from the program's directory?
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Yes, with the present application functionality, do supplement dlls are needed. So, it is safe to remove them.
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PS Thanks for all your work so far
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Thank YOU...
hypest

Looks good.
Looking forward to updates. I can't get it to "shoot" and decode.
I have to shoot the picture, then run the program to get it to decode the
1D barcode.

Very nice.
Hi, Sean here from the zxing project. Glad to see you got this into C# and I hope it was not too painful. Let me know if you notice bugs. I put a link to your project on the code.google.com page.
Once the code stops changing and looks about done, we'd like to do the same thing, but port to Object C for the iPhone.

Got me blushing
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Hi, Sean here from the zxing project. Glad to see you got this into C# and I hope it was not too painful. Let me know if you notice bugs. I put a link to your project on the code.google.com page.
Once the code stops changing and looks about done, we'd like to do the same thing, but port to Object C for the iPhone.
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Hello Sean! Flattered to see a comment from one of the project's developer!
Translating to C# was surprisingly easy and effective by using the MS JLCA. Ofcource I had to make some adjustments, but nothing really "difficult". Poking into the zxing code is certainly on my agenta but for the time being I'm trying to figure out why the prog does not work on some fellow posters' devices . I'll be happy to drive your attention to any bugs I notice.
...will keep my eye on your project's progress...
hypest

Quick Shot not working for me. The application do not get the image. Manual shot dont recognizes EAN13 code. Folder selection not working(HTC Camera takes the shots in Storagecard\DCIM\100Media folder that cant be selected because its a subfolder.)

Trouble replicating the problem
I just reverted my Kaiser to its original rom (had to cook it from the dump I performed the day I got it), but the prog works (shouldn't I be happy about that?). I can use the "Shoot" and recognize...
Some details:
device: HTC TyTN II (unbranded)
Greek ROM (ACE Hellas)
OS: 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
Date: 08/28/07
Radio: 1.27.12.32
Protocol: 22.45.88.07H
Camera ver: 4.08 build 28288
The prog also worked with my "previous" ROM (panosha's joannita light + Nadavi's camera)
Perhaps some of you guys that the app does not fully work, can post additional info on the hardware/software you're using.
Thanx,
hypest

i wonder if it had something to do with localization. It is a german Phone here. I've tested it with my own programm(also written in C#) and it has no problem getting the shot. strange....

nsa666 said:
Quick Shot not working for me. The application do not get the image. Manual shot dont recognizes EAN13 code. Folder selection not working(HTC Camera takes the shots in Storagecard\DCIM\100Media folder that cant be selected because its a subfolder.)
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EAN13 generally seems to work. Please, could you try this image?
I have tested the prog on about 10 actual products. Try to keep the phone about 6-10cm away from the target (not closer than 5, anyway).
Thank you for the info on the behavior of the load dialog. I will try and use a different facility to browse every folder.
hypest

nsa666 said:
i wonder if it had something to do with localization. It is a german Phone here. I've tested it with my own programm(also written in C#) and it has no problem getting the shot. strange....
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I cannot completely rule out the possibility to be a localization issue, even though, the second Kaiser device I used today was not a Greek one (I thing was English-default) and it worked on it too.

With your shot it actually works. With my it reads wrong code.

nsa666 said:
With your shot it actually works. With my it reads wrong code.
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Indeed, your image produces a false recognition. It is quite probable that this is a zxing related bug, but I'll have to investigate it further. Actually I have encountered this faulty recognition once.
hypest

Do you plan to release your source so that others might be able to develop customized applications? I personally would like to have it query a MySQL DB via the web over HSDPA connection to query inventory levels and pricing of product in my warehouse. Other uses might be to have it auto-query the UPC against an online DB to find the best price for a given product or to upload the UPC to an on-line DB to review later from your desktop.

After you take the picture with the Shoot option what do you hit to have it decode it? If i hit the return (back arrow) nothing happens, and if i hit the OK key on the front of my Tilt, nothing happens...

PengLord said:
Do you plan to release your source so that others might be able to develop customized applications? I personally would like to have it query a MySQL DB via the web over HSDPA connection to query inventory levels and pricing of product in my warehouse. Other uses might be to have it auto-query the UPC against an online DB to find the best price for a given product or to upload the UPC to an on-line DB to review later from your desktop.
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Actually, these uses are exactly what I have in mind! The app will act just as the barcode-recognition medium. The backend will be the really interesting stuff .
I just have to figure out some serious problems and in the meantime I'll decide whether to release the code in an organized manner, or just enable the tool to be used as external executable from other apps (or a linkable lib).
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After you take the picture with the Shoot option what do you hit to have it decode it? If i hit the return (back arrow) nothing happens, and if i hit the OK key on the front of my Tilt, nothing happens...
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On my kaiser, either way works . Most of the time though, I use the front (D-PAD) OK button just because is easier to press.
I have updated the #1 post and attached a build with some debugging messages. Please try that too and report which messages you see.
hypest

hypest said:
I have updated the #1 post and attached a build with some debugging messages. Please try that too and report which messages you see.
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"Dialog didn't return OK!"
apears when pressing OK on the D-Pad or the icon.
i have a German TyTn II.
ROM Version: 1.56.407.3
Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00.cab is installed, could this be the issue? the preinstalled version was .... sh.... not very good.
hope this helps you a bit..

Im not a great coder but i found a nice PDF that might be good to help with decoding the image. http://www.atilim.edu.tr/~misafran/proje web/BIS04.pdf

bypass build
Fellow posters,
I have revised the #1 post to include a newer build, hopefully with better results. This one tries a different approach to reach the captured image..
to pizzaguy:
The paper might be helpful, event though it is not presented as simply software-based (it benefits from the DSP processor present).
hypest

it still doesnt work.
Barcorama_bypass.exe
IOException
bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError()
bei System.IO.Directory.InternalCreateDirectory()
bei System.IO.Directory.CreateDirectory()
bei TestNS.TestCL.button1_Click()
bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick()
bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick()
bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WnProc()
bei System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc()
bei Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterModalDialog()
bei System.Windows.Forms.Form.ShowDialog()
bei TestNS.TestCL.Main()
P.S.: This comes if i klick on "shot" buton. The camera app dont even starts.
P.S.2: just tested the verbose version. It seems to be something wrong with directory name. it says \Storagecard\Barcorama\Barcorama_verbose.exe. I think it should say only \Storagecard\Barcorama .

What gps software to use for hiking / geocaching?

Hey all,
I want to use my Tilt while hiking or geocaching. While the navigation software like TomTom is cool its not what I'm looking for. Instead something that shows breadcrumb trails and waypoints would be better for me. Something like the default on the eTrex or similar? I'd prefer free but am willing to pay for the right app also.
Thanks!

Yesterday, someone asked for a GPS tracking program for skiing.
And here's what madsnm answered:
madsnm said:
Run.GPS should do what you want.
http://www.rungps.net/
/Mads
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Run.GPS is the perfect tool for sports like running, skiing and walking. It uses the Global Positioning System (GPS) to record all of your training parameters like speed, distance and altitude.
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Maybe that program could be useful for you.
Edit:
You can import google earth maps, you can import/export Paths/Routes/Tracks and you can import/export waypoint!
Edit again:
It's a 14 day trial
$33.99 for a normal license and $65.43 for a pro license

GPS Tuner is fantastic for hiking. It does the trails and waypoints as you want, and is able to import and export to Google Earth format so you can see your path on your PC too. The only drawback to geocaching is that when the phone goes into standby, the GPS chip shuts off, so you need to get a program like AE Button Plus to force the phone to stay on with one button click, and turn off the screen with another button click. I tend to use a BT-338 external GPS receiver when I geocache, however, because it is much more accurate than the built-in GPS in the Tilt. (It has a Sirf III receiver chip as opposed to the Qualcomm-whatever chip in the phone.)
Falcon, eh? Colorado Springs here!!!

Run Gps
Run GPS is awesome. I use it for hiking & crosscountry skiing. It works great, even in stand by mode

I use GeoScout for geocaching - links to geocaching.com directly which is nice - pulls down caches, logs, maps, etc.

For Geocaching, I recommend Beeline. http://visualgps.net/BeeLineGPS/default.htm It doesn't display maps, but it does handle lots of waypoints. Mine tilt is usually loaded with about 5000 geocaches. It also display cache information from the gpx file so caching is paperless.
I tried GPS Tuner. I like some of the features. It will download maps over the air. This is a nice feature. It doesn't handle a big waypoint database very well. After about 150 waypoints, it starts to slow down.
Neither is perfect. I don't hike without goecaching, so Beeline is my choice. If you're mainly hiking, I think GPS Tuner is very nice. I watch the release notes for both and wait for one to suit me better.

I see DeLorme's Topo 7.0 will work with a touch-screen PDA when used with their Street Atlas 2008 mapping software. Might take a lot of memory for all the map data on a card though.
Nice thing is that you can use it in rural areas as it wouldn't require an active connection to an online mapping server like TeleNav or others.

snooginsguy said:
Falcon, eh? Colorado Springs here!!!
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You ever made it to the Tarrryall cache? I placed that one. First cache in Colorado

OziExplorer and Glopus
I Use for Geocaching "OziExplorerPPC" ( Waypoints with GSAK ) (Maps with OziExplorerPC). --> Link
It`s great to Handle.
Another one is "Glopus". --> Link

Thanks for the details guys!
Was just wondering if something like GPS Tuner/Run GPS would store single points? I like photography and I'd find it very useful to store away the GPS cordinates of where I'm taking a shot in some form....
Ta
Matt

Sadlybrokeboy said:
Thanks for the details guys!
Was just wondering if something like GPS Tuner/Run GPS would store single points? I like photography and I'd find it very useful to store away the GPS cordinates of where I'm taking a shot in some form....
Ta
Matt
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Just use the GPS Photo option in the camera app.
or noniGPSplot

MACkjam said:
Just use the GPS Photo option in the camera app.
or noniGPSplot
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MACkjam - thanks - had forgotten about the GPS photo option!
Matt

Thanks for all the ideas. I'll be trying out most all of these. I did download beeline last nght, and it is Very eTrex like, so probably the closest to what I'm looking for. Too bad you can't do background maps on it though.

I tried my kaiser with a number of apps for some topo nav/geocaching, none of the apps seem to work very well. The biggest problem for me was battery drain. If your doing caches you can drive to you'll probably be ok, but if you have to hike an hour or 2 the kaiser doesn't cut it.
best app was beeline but I'd go with a standalone gps device.

i use gps with UK os maps for mountainbiking. i have bought a big battery off ebay (about $10), 2800mAh with replacement back (its about 2x thicker than standard). it will last about 7 hours on continuous gps and i also take the standard one for backup

Sadlybrokeboy said:
Thanks for the details guys!
Was just wondering if something like GPS Tuner/Run GPS would store single points? I like photography and I'd find it very useful to store away the GPS cordinates of where I'm taking a shot in some form....
Ta
Matt
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If you want to use the tilt to photograph, you can use KaiserTweak to enable GPS photo which basically puts your gps coordinates in the photos metadata (or something like that)

I regularly Geocache myself and have myself searched for the best navigation software to use for this pastime. I have tested just about every application so far mentioned in this thread but nothing, and I mean nothing, comes close to TrackyPro. GPSTuner was pretty good but TrackPro beats the lot of themo. It is perfect for Geocaching as you can download Geocaches from Geocaching.com direct from within the application and also display descriptions of the Geocaches within the ap too! It really is an incredably intelligently written and intuitive piece of software. Please, please try it. You will thank me I promise. And no, I'm in no way affililated with the author of this software!!
http://www.trackthisout.com/

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You ever made it to the Tarrryall cache? I placed that one. First cache in Colorado
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Not yet, I'll have to check it out though!

BackCountry Navigator
I'm real fond of a program called BackCountry Navigator. Costs $30, and displays the USGS topo maps that I'm familiar with. They're downloaded from terraserver-USA, so they're as current as those kinds of maps can be, and I can have them with me so I don't need to be on the network. Given a few days of spare moments I got my whole state at 1:100000 scale, and all the national forest areas where I go at the more detailed 1:24000. I haven't tried it yet, but it's supposed to be able to get info straight from the geocaching site.
www.BackCountryNavigator.com

MACkjam said:
Just use the GPS Photo option in the camera app.
or noniGPSplot
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Using Run.GPS you can take pictures, record videos and audio recordings and just upload it to, for instance, the GPS-Sport.net portal - it's all geo-coded automatically
Here's some examples:
http://www.gps-sport.net/trainings/Iron-Mountain_12832
http://www.gps-sport.net/trainings/Griffin-Creek_11260
http://www.gps-sport.net/trainings/La-Rhune-Lizuniaga_11627

OCR software

Have you ever used the WorldCard mobile software that is in original touch pro/fuze rom? It has an excellent OCR engine.. Its a pity that it can't scan an entire A4 sheet. So this is my question: is there a program that allows to scan and ocr a sheet on our touch pro/fuze?
Thanks

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Its a pity that it can't scan an entire A4 sheet.
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I think that taking a picture of an A4 sheet won't be easy. I noticed that aven with worldcard, taking a pic of a card isn't always easy. Sometimes the text is too blury to be well recognized by the OCR
For an A4 sheet it means it will be more difficult to take a clear picture of the text, mean clear enough for an ocr application

well.. if the ambient light is good, and you set your camera as macro, you can take accettable (..readable) pics of an A4 sheet.
... after some tries... but you can

gloom said:
I think that taking a picture of an A4 sheet won't be easy. I noticed that aven with worldcard, taking a pic of a card isn't always easy. Sometimes the text is too blury to be well recognized by the OCR
For an A4 sheet it means it will be more difficult to take a clear picture of the text, mean clear enough for an ocr application
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Sounds more like an opinion than a point of fact! I have personally taken many many many pictures of typed documents and perfectly OCRed them on my laptop! Easy as cake, and ain't nothing blurry about them either!

I'd love to see this cab'd out....
I've taken an image and transferred it to OneNote and done the same thing....it performed adequately.

sudermatt said:
I'd love to see this cab'd out....
I've taken an image and transferred it to OneNote and done the same thing....it performed adequately.
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One Note have OCR???

shirreer said:
Sounds more like an opinion than a point of fact! I
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Yep yep, was my own opinion not a fact

You can get a trial version here:
http://store.penpowerinc.com/mobile.html
I'm not really sure what about this "trial version" is gimped (i.e. why you would need to register/pay for it at all) the trial version seems to work perfectly fine...
Being that it is a paid app, it probably wouldn't be kosher to post a cab of the registered version that was ganked out of a stock TP install.

bpapa9013 said:
You can get a trial version here:
http://store.penpowerinc.com/mobile.html
I'm not really sure what about this "trial version" is gimped (i.e. why you would need to register/pay for it at all) the trial version seems to work perfectly fine...
Being that it is a paid app, it probably wouldn't be kosher to post a cab of the registered version that was ganked out of a stock TP install.
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Is it me or isnt this the app that comes with the Sprint TP?

One Note 2007, at least, does have OCR. I haven't used it yet though.
I'd like to see a mobile OCR program that can handle a full A4 page but it's probably easier to just do it on a PC with an OCR program once you have the image.

cd85233 said:
Is it me or isnt this the app that comes with the Sprint TP?
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Yes, WorldCard Mobile comes installed on the TouchPro. It works very well. I would love to see it's OCR engine used in a simple text OCR app.

Actually, you don't even need to download or install anything, assuming you have Microsoft Office 2003+.
Go to Start>>All Programs>>Microsoft Office>>Microsoft Office Tools>>Microsoft Office Document Imaging
Run that software. If you can convert your jpeg document file into .tiff (doable through photoshop), then you can have the document imaging software read through it and convert it into .doc. Through .doc, you can do whatever you want with it, like convert it to .pdf.
I use this software called ABBY Fine Reader 9.0.
Its a pretty powerful software that does OCR amazingly. But of course, you need to pay for it.