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I'm going to be travelling internationally soon and would like to preload my QuickGPS for both the USA and Europe - will a "normal" QuickGPS download do that or do I need to do something special?
Mainly I'd like to avoid having to connect to the network in Europe on arrival to get a solid GPS lock.
Are there any good descriptions of specifically how QuickGPS works?
TIA,
Richard
assuming its the same quickgps as the one in the 6915/45/25 - it works great in any part of the world. all automatic no tweaking required.
djmaven said:
assuming its the same quickgps as the one in the 6915/45/25 - it works great in any part of the world. all automatic no tweaking required.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. Will running it in the USA provide the data for being in Europe?
I accept that runnning it in Europe would likely get the appropriate local data, but I don't necessarily want to pay $.02/KB to download data when I get to Europe - though that wouldn't be the end of the world.
Kinda curious, that's all.
Richard
rsolomon said:
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Will running it in the USA provide the data for being in Europe?
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u just made it worse
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u just made it worse
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LOL. OK, one more try It's probably a stupid question...
QuickGPS downloads satellite data, right? Does it download ALL the satellite data, or just the ones it thinks are near you? I.e. if I'm in the USA will it only download the birds near me or *ALL* the birds? Thus if I download "fresh" QuickGPS data right before I leave the USA will I get quick acquisition in the USA on departure *AND* quick acquisition in EU upon arrival? or would I have to run QuickGPS and download once I got to EU in order to get the quick acquisisition?
Richard
Good question. I am not sure since I don't remember if I did aQuickGps before using it in Europe. However logic says a US download should be OK for the whole world since the download is Internet based and when the phone pulls the data, the internet does not know where its located (if it would know - who needs the data?) so it should be worldwide.
Don't worry, there are only 24 GPS satellites orbiting the Earth and you get their positions all at once every time you use QuickGPS
I think the quikGPS picks up data by detecting where your gps receiver is located, so it work worldwide.
kms
barmalini is right regardless of where you are located it downloads all the predicted ephemeris data for the satellites of the GPS constellation, you can read more about "offline AGPS" here -> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
Although no one has really answered the OP's actual question - namely will running quick GPS in the US before flying to Europe help his GPS to start up quickly in Europe?
The quick answer is NO. QuickGPS gets info from your device as to its current location (from Cell towers). Thus if you run quickGPS in the states, it will tell your GPS that you are in the states, even if you then fly to europe.
If the OP wants a really fast GPS start up in europe, he will need to run QGPS when he arrives. If not, he can simply run any GPS enabled app on his device and wait for it to acquire a fix (although as previously discussed, Google Maps times out really quickly... but if data costs are a worry then he must be using a GPS app with maps preinstalled on the device).
We did answer and if you had read mine and/or followed my link you would realize that the content of the downloaded data has no connection whatsoever to cell towers.
So yes, since the data is the same worldwide, data downloaded in the US will help when you arrive in Europe, KEEPING IN MIND that you are no longer doing a "warm fix" but a "cold fix" due to the distance covered so i(for an open sky environment) instead of 5/10 seconds for warm fix it might take 20/25, still better than the 40/45 without QuickGPS.
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barmalini is right regardless of where you are located it downloads all the predicted ephemeris data for the satellites of the GPS constellation, you can read more about "offline AGPS" here -> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
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That's what I *hoped*, but the registry for QuickGPS contains a number of "region" keys: e.g.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"curRegion"=dword:00000002
"region"="US"
so I was concerned the data might be somehow specific to the location I downloaded from.
Richard
P.S. @GpsPasSion - good to see you over "here" on xda-dev, I should have thought to check your site I suppose
GpsPasSion said:
So yes, since the data is the same worldwide, data downloaded in the US will help when you arrive in Europe, KEEPING IN MIND that you are no longer doing a "warm fix" but a "cold fix" due to the distance covered so i(for an open sky environment) instead of 5/10 seconds for warm fix it might take 20/25, still better than the 40/45 without QuickGPS.
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I'll try and remember and do some timed testing - my recollection from my SirfStarIII-based BT338 was that a few minutes were required for the first fix after landing, but I never timed it accurately.
Richard
unwired4 said:
The quick answer is NO. QuickGPS gets info from your device as to its current location (from Cell towers). Thus if you run quickGPS in the states, it will tell your GPS that you are in the states, even if you then fly to europe.
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I'm not quite sure I understand this response. QuickGPS downloads the ephemeris data for the satellites, which tells the phone where all the satellites are, and are expected to be for the near future. It's the same data the phone would get from the satellite, but the satellites transmit this data fairly slowly (and you only need signal from one satellite... each satellite transmits the ephemeris data for all 24 satellites). Regardless of where you and your phone are, the satellites are where they are. Why would QuickGPS care about your current location?
Guys....i know this is not related but when you guys say that one can get a faster fix after downloading the data using QuickGPS, how much faster are you guys taking about? Reason i ask is cos i can download the latest data using QuickGPS then launch Mapking, it still takes between 10 - 15 minutes for me to get a fix (i would probaby have reached my destination by then). Am i missing out something here cos i believe somebody said 45 seconds
oh yes, there is something wrong, I put some numbers above.
Now if you have a coated windshield, are moving and the Kaiser is on the passenger seat then you're asking for trouble !
@dscline - you must have missed some of the replies, QuickGPS data is location independent ;-)
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@dscline - you must have missed some of the replies, QuickGPS data is location independent ;-)
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heh, yeah, his post was at the bottom of the page... when I replied, I didn't realize there was already a whole other page with posts debating that statement.
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oh yes, there is something wrong, I put some numbers above.
Now if you have a coated windshield, are moving and the Kaiser is on the passenger seat then you're asking for trouble !
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I just tried it again. This time, i just put the Kaiser on top of the car and left it there....i finally got a fix after 9 minutes. Now....izzit easier to get a fix on the move on when still?
Is there any other software apart from QuickGPS that will help speed up the fix? I tried GPSProxy but got and error when trying to add virtual port so i drop that I would really appreciate any advice cos i use the GPS almost everyday and it's really frastrating to have to wait 10 minutes before getting a fix
Scann69 said:
I just tried it again. This time, i just put the Kaiser on top of the car and left it there....i finally got a fix after 9 minutes.
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Where are you? Unless you're in an urban canyon or under dense tree cover I cannot imagine 9 minutes to first fix.... Should be under a minute.
Richard
rsolomon said:
Where are you? Unless you're in an urban canyon or under dense tree cover I cannot imagine 9 minutes to first fix.... Should be under a minute.
Richard
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Nup....i'm under open sky and i'm in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The thing is, i know that cold start can take longer time and even so, 10 minutes is just way to long and what's worse is, i was using the GPS like 5 hours ago and i just tried it again and still it took 10 minutes to get a fix. I seriously think i'm missing something here
a couple of month ago I almost couldn't get a GPS signal indoors and often outside it took up to a minute. Now suddenly the GPS signal is instant.
What has happened? Has the US Millitary increased the signal quality of the GPS system?
It take slong if you're not using QuickGPS. Maybe your data was outdated that time when it took you so long. Also notice that you should not move too fast while getting the fix. Getting a fix while driving on the highway is almost impossible.
always get a fix with mine, even traveling at 70 mph.
I even managed to get a fix at 258km/h last december in Japan in Shinkansen to Hiroshima. I think I still have pictures of that.. It was an ordinary Qstarz BT GPS..
mine never worked indoors
maybe the people living upstairs removed their lead carpet?
when i;m using my gps a lot it connects very fast. but if i didn't use it for a while it takes a lot to make connection.
But like firefall! said quickgps works ver nice it helps you to make faster connection
WelL I don't get a fix @ say 100 km/h. WTF nevermind, invite me next time Anyway, maybe as a little explanation why QuickGPS is essential for obtaining a quick fix: As y'all may know, GPS works with those satellites circling around above us all. They turn 'round the world and send their time in a very precise format and depending on their position it takes a certain amount of time for the values to be sent to your phone. Thus, the phone will receive different times at one time because they were sent from different distances. From these differences it is possbile to calculate the current position between the satellites, but for that to be of any use it is essential to have a rough idea of where the satellites actually are - that is to say you need a kind of mapping table to associate your GPS data with a real location. This data is also sent by the satellites themselves - but this is not a HSDPA connection or something, but much slower. It can take a few minutes until all data is downloaded via satellite, and that's the amount it takes you to obtain a fix. QuickGPS downloads this data over the internet, which is way faster. So if you regularily download this data you do not have to receive it from the satellites -> You don't have to wait. And as you can see the data is valid for one week, though I think that this is nonsense. The data doesn't change once a week; it's changing all the time, but after a week your old data may be to 50% outdated or something. That means for me: Always download the data through QuickGPS if you get the opportunity. I'm having it downloaded when I connect my X1 to my PC so I don't need to worry
I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
You could be standing indoors or somewhere where there's not a good enough GPS signal, or you may have location services switched off.
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I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
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You are not alone. I started a thread where I called it =garbage. I don't want to generalize just in case it's a hardware issue on my part but it always shows my location in a different city and when using the GPS on maps it seems to always be trying to catchup.
GPS settings
How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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I believe you're right about the meaning of the radius of the circle in the stock map app. But, it probably isn't as obvious in other kinds of apps that use GPS.
I'm gonna shoot ms an email regarding this...and I suggest that anyone else that agrees that this is less than ideal do the same. Its too late to have them do anything about it in the upcoming January update, but if they hear enough complaints about it, maybe they'll do something about it in the update after that one.
Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Jim, if the battery on my HD7 were more robust, I would agree with you. But it's not...so I don't. I would like the option to utilize only tower/WiFi triangulation...and to be able to enable my GPS only when I need my location to be precisely determined.
You are right...it does just work...which was more than I could say for my Vibrant's GPS for quite a while. But, access to any setting that could help me milk some more life out of my battery is access that I want.
GPS ?!?
I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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How wide is the circle around the dot? It may be using the Cell tower / WiFi to determine your position and therefore be very inaccurate.
What country are you in?
I guess it's possible that the actual maps are wrong and are showing the incorrect map overlay for your country?
after reading this thread i tested my HD7 with the bing map and its accurate, showed me where i am i changed to aerial map to confirm it...
i believe the data (3G) have to be connected, i am on unlimited data plan so its on all the time, wifi do not work as i tested with the wifi after that and it showed my location far away from my home...
this should fix everyones issue Go to setting and select find my phone check box both opitions and now try bing maps again. you will also notice well driving bing maps will keep a better track well your moving
did that and it now works perfectly, previously it was over a mile off my actual location
Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
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Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
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Mate, this issue was happen to me in Bangkok too,
I try many apps to fix this, but the result was same..
I see my location was stand in somewhere on the sea at Europe.
That's suck...
Make them REAL MS !!
hd7 no gps please help
gps dosent work on google maps when i flash back to old rom gps works
As far as I know location services do not use GPS exclusively. It uses GSM cell and tower info as well to speed up approximation and let enough time for GPS satellite locking. GSM cell data is stored in internet databases (do not know where and how) but if there is a mislocated tower (e.g.i Thailand) your location might be determined in a wrong way.
To keep it simple M$ hidden this mixed mode location service. I don't know what happens if you switch off location service in settings and use a GPS application for locating yourself. Is there a difference? Might be.
I'm getting sick of ignorant people saying stuff like "oh yeah your GPS works as long as you have a data or wifi signal."
NO. THAT IS NOT GPS. That is the cheap triangulation signal method via cell towers that just about ANY phone can do. If you don't know the difference between GPS and cell tower triangulation then do not bother contributing to this discussion.
Real GPS uses satellites. You know, the ones in space. Nothing else.
Tomtoms don't use a cellular signal, they use GPS.
If you have real GPS, you can pinpoint almost perfectly where you are in realtime, and even accurately track your velocity, so long as there is a clear line of sight to the satellites. If your location is "bouncing back and forth", then you do not have GPS enabled. Period.
I would like to know, once and for all, was HTC lying on their phone specifications in saying that the HD7 has GPS or not?
My old HTC Touch HD had it. Why on earth does this HD7 not seem to have it?
Has anyone here ever actually managed to verify that a true GPS receiver even exists in this phone?
There is a GPS reciever in the phone or it wont be able to pinpoint your exact location in Bing Maps.
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There is a GPS reciever in the phone or it wont be able to pinpoint your exact location in Bing Maps.
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I have never had bing maps pinpoint my "exact" location though, only maybe to the nearest 20 metres. And the pointer doesn't seem to move as I move, which suggests to me it isn't using satellites at all...
You seem to be confused. To clear up your misunderstanding, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
FWIW, I use the GPS radio on my daily 6km runs. My old Holux devices (CF-Card, USB external), used to take 30-60 seconds to grab a 3D fix. My HD7 does it in just 15-seconds. If a data connection is available, AGPS will acquire a 'quick fix' first, then based on that position determine which satellites it should look for, elminating the old trial and error method. Hence, a 'true' gps connection is acheived immediately after the AGPS system does it's job.
Bing Maps is just simply a built-in GPS client for the hardware radio and firmware.
To those concerned about data roaming charges, a data connection is not required to use the GPS radio, but is necessary to use downloaded maps, etc. As the newly released Navigon system stores maps on your device (1.6-2.5gb!) it will run independent of a data connection.
Cheers
I understand perfectly what A-GPS is. However I have yet to see my HTC HD7 actually acquire a satellite signal.
Is there anything in the phone that actually indicates when it has acquired a signal from GPS satellites?
What I believe to be the case is that this phone never actually uses GPS signals, at any stage. I believe it simply uses the cellular towers to triangulate your position, and you never get anything more accurate than that.
I would happily be proven wrong. Or if you could show me somewhere on the phone which says "now receiving from (6) satellites" like my old HTC used to do, I will happily stand corrected.
Bing maps has never ever been "GPS accurate" in my experience, and I have had the phone for just under a year now.
What about the Navigon select app that some German carriers implement on their HD7s, isn't that satellite GPS signal ?
i'm using navigon navigator,that show me speed,exat position,and many other info:hd7 HAS A GPS RICEVITOR!!!
I used Bing maps navigation the other day to find a junk yard about 2 hours from where I live and it was pretty accurate. Even merging onto another highway showed the cursor right where I was. After the initial routing pretty sure I was out of signal since I had no service way out in the sticks yet Bing maps never lost the route. I wa pretty satisfied.
But your right real gps shouldn't need a data signal at all like navigon select. Maps are stored locally.
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Heofz said:
I understand perfectly what A-GPS is. However I have yet to see my HTC HD7 actually acquire a satellite signal.
Is there anything in the phone that actually indicates when it has acquired a signal from GPS satellites?
What I believe to be the case is that this phone never actually uses GPS signals, at any stage. I believe it simply uses the cellular towers to triangulate your position, and you never get anything more accurate than that.
I would happily be proven wrong. Or if you could show me somewhere on the phone which says "now receiving from (6) satellites" like my old HTC used to do, I will happily stand corrected.
Bing maps has never ever been "GPS accurate" in my experience, and I have had the phone for just under a year now.
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I'm going to back this post up 100% on my end. I stand outside of my building and have NEVER had my bing map... and it shows me 3 or 4 blocks away from my actual location. I've actually had this question sitting on my end for quite some time now.
I, personally, don't believe that the HTC can be used as a true GPS. It just uses the cell towers like mentioned above.
If somebody could actually prove this, other than saying... IT HAS GPS BECAUSE IT SHOWED ME DIRECTIONS AND ACCURATE DIRECTIONS TOO.... Turn by turn directions though Bing is fine.. but it's still not a true GPS location being used.
Would downloading a GPS program like the 35$ garmin one actually give me a different reading on my map? Would it actually work if I have no cellular signal like a true GPS, and work off of a GPS signal?
@NachoNut and @Heofz: Do the apps in the marketplace that provide system information tell you if the phone is using triangulation or actual GPS? You could also try tweeting @windowsphone, @winphonesupport, @attcustomercare, or @htc asking about it. They're generally pretty responsive
I can't verify the exact GPS hardware, but the "system view" app from the WP7 marketplace shows "GPS location" on my HD7 and reads out to the 100th's place in latitude and longitude and ALTITUDE. You would not be able to read altitude via cell tower triangulation.
I think the issue gets confused because many of the location aware programs will use the triangulation method first while waiting for the GPS to get a reading. For instance, in Bing maps, your location is shown in a wide circle but as GPS locks in the circle shrinks down to a much more accurate location.
Even AGPS cannot get down to +/- a few meters without other outside assistance or references though.
download tools for wp7 app from the marketplace. This has a gps reciever app. Put your phone in airplane mode, and then check if you get a location... I'd do it, but my phone is currently updating to mango.
Not entirely sure what this rant is about to be honest. Just because bing maps is sh!t (which surprise surprise we all know...) doesn't mean that the inbuilt GPS receiver in the phone is useless?! Have you tried Gmaps yet?
As an alternative, why not download WinPhone Info for Mango and it will give you your exact location.
I use the GPS functionality quite often for work, because I have to see lots of different customers in London, on foot. Anyone who knows London, knows how narrow the streets are and how tall the buildings are. Worst case scenario for GPS, yet it works every time and it's very quick to find my location. Even though I think the rest of the phone is underwhelming, this is actually one of the features that works fine. If only Bing was up to Google Maps standards!
I'd like to know the best positioning for the handset it's set for 'line of sight view'.
I go cycling round the park often and I must admit it does not seem as accurate as it did with my old HD2. Could it just be down to construction.
It's the rom. I switch to Telstra rom and my gps is working fine now. The gps on tmobile rom never be able to track my location
Mine used GPS as it came from T-Mobile... in Airplane mode it received the location etc,. but maps can't update because they need a data signal to load their data. It does indeed have a TRUE GPS satellite receiver in it.
Shortly after the mango update, using the free GPSInfo app I managed to get it to tell me it had acquired a satellite signal rather than data only. It gave me altitude readings etc as well as accurate speed info.
Hurrah!
Now all I need is software equivalent/better than tomtom and I'll be a very happy bunny
I was using Navigon Select 2.0 / 3.0 on my HD7 on my holiday to Spain during the summer; for a whole two weeks I had the data connection disabled, and there was no phone reception in some of the mountaineous areas, yet the GPS functioned absolutely perfectly, getting the position quickly and accurately. So yeah there is definitely a proper GPS in the HD7.
My own recommendation for navigation on the HD7 (whether you have access to data or not) is Navigon Europe / USA (ie version 4 of Navigon Select). It's a bit pricey but is price-matched with proper navigation apps on iOS and Android. It does all the usual offline navigation that you would expect with proper POIs, rerouting, etc, but if you let it at your data connection it will also retrieve traffic data, Google Local business results, etc. You can also pin destinations to your Start screen (Home, for example). Absolutely brilliant.
pin point location works fine for me on bing... shows my house on arial view... and while on the move bingel and gmaps both work...
i dont understand why ppl are complaning..
Me too
This has a GPS, but it doesn't lock on very well (or sometimes ever) for me. I am using the T-Mobile version so that may be the problem. If you use the GPSInfo app, it will tell you if you are using AGPS or if you have actually acquired satellites. I have been able to acquire satellites a couple of times, but mostly it just sits there on AGPS mode. I was starting to really like this phone, but the GPS thing might just be a deal breaker for me.
Ok, so having the amazing Blade for over a year and a half, i decided to go bigger and stronger, and got the p880 when prices droped acceptably. One of the reasons, was that Blade didn't have the memory or the cpu to give me a satisfactory use of gps navigation or gps tracking (for example, it had tremendous lag, and it forced closed apps very often).
Now i have it, everything ok, except that in Osmand, in using offline maps, it says at some points, there is not enough memory to load a portion of the map. There is about 250-300mb available ram at that point. I wonder if this is a bug or a limitation indeed of the phone's ram.
So, the things is i am testing the device in the city, before i go for the mountain hike using gps to record my hike. It locks ok outdoors, fast. The problem is, the minute i insert it in my pocket its gone. The lock is gone and the signal too. So, where exactly on the phone is the gps receiver located? Does it matter which pocket it is in? What kind of clothes i am wearing. How would i carry it during my hiking, in order to have a continuous signal? Should a particular spot, the top for example be completely naked to receive the signal, or something like that?
I use 4X for tracking my mountain bike rides.
Just today I had almost 3 hours of tracking without any problem.
But I use endomondo as a program.
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Yesterday I put it in upper pocket of my backpack and recorded my first spring mtb ride. It last more than 4 hours and did not lost any moment.
I use Orux maps for years - it works excellent, even with my old HTC legend, but 4X has better reception and faster fix. I dont't see any memory problem - it is same with Orux and loaded offline map, tracking on, and when system only is running.
Two questions (for pierg75 and Marko_Sp) that might help the OP:
- those programs you mentioned are using offline maps, like the OP's?
- are you using AGPS, i.e. is your 3G data on or off?
- no offline maps
- yes agps is enabled (not sure how much this is used in a wood)
BTW I used in the past Locus with offline maps and I didn't have too many problems on the zte blade as well
If they put the software back on play, I'll give it a go next time I'm out.
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I had problems when using MyTracks with the 4X HD... at high speeds (like in a car) it would miss many portions of the track. See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38963980&postcount=14
I have NOT yet tested extensively enough, but doing the same drive twice since upgrading to Jelly Bean... I did not have the track drop out at all. So if you're not yet on 20a official, perhaps you should try it?
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Two questions (for pierg75 and Marko_Sp) that might help the OP:
- those programs you mentioned are using offline maps, like the OP's?
- are you using AGPS, i.e. is your 3G data on or off?
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Orux is able to download offline maps from many online map servers (Google, Hike&Bike, TopoOSM USA etc.) with 500mb limit what is more than enough for planned rides - battery of mob is limit, not the size of map, but I have spent only 20% on my 4 hour ride!. That offline maps can be stored and used on SD card. I use offline topo maps for my country from Croatian State Geodetic Administration - only have to create WMS URL, layers and minimum and maximum zoom, make selection of region and downoload over WiFi. It is very simple in fact.
Yes, I use AGPS, and 3G, as usual, but Orux does not require any, just GPS.
picture of Orux track with offline map and some analitics:
Thanks everyone for the info, the problem is i think that i never use data, in fact not only i have it disabled in the phone, i have called the company and asked them to turn off the switches on mobile data for my number. That way, even if it is enabled, by them, i can tell them that it was THEIR mistake and not pay. The reason i do these is that data is very expensive in my country, in fact i would almost pay the equivalent of 6 months of phone number contract, if data was enabled accidentally in my phone.
So, the question is concerning ONLY the use of GPS, with offline maps. So i guess this must be the problem. Perhaps i would have a clear gps signal continuously if i had the phone in my hand and my hand extended for the whole hike, but that is obviously not an option. So i still can not figure out what to do. Any ideas about a belt fitted case for the phone that leaves it essentially "in the open", so that gps will have a clear connection?
As for the memory problem in Osmand, it is the only program that created a memory problem so i guess it must be a bug or something.
I ll check out this endomondo and orux, but still have not figured out what to do for a succesfull gpx track recording (continuous) outdoors, with just gps enabled.
I ll check out this endomondo and orux, but still have not figured out what to do for a succesfull gpx track recording (continuous) outdoors, with just gps enabled.[/QUOTE]
For a succesfull gpx track recording You don't need offline map, use blank map in Orux.