i posted this over at xbox forms but i dont have much faith in them like i know xda has some real top notch people. top notch people that have better things to do but i just figured id try take a look if you got time.
im pretty sure this is a new one and if any one can help me i would be so greatful.
ok first i had live working great for about 3 weeks i didnt change anything and then all the sudden ip always fails.
so makes sense that it was my isp that changed something so i gave them a call they didnt know about anything so after further thinking i figured it was proably not the isp's fault but my conection to my router.
and sure enough my router dosnt even have the 360 in attatched devices (the link light for the port i plug it in to goes crazy just blinks on and off forever) any ways i tried all the normal trouble shooting
power cycled everything on the network
i set the ip manulay
i bypassed the router
reset xbox to factory settings
upgraded router firmware
removed everything from the router but the xbox and soft and hard reset it
still same problem.
heres where it gets real crazy i took the xbox to my friends house who has a 360 reset it to factory settings and pluged it in ip failed same as on my network. his xbox worked just fine on the exact same network. and we went through all the trouble shooting there 2
so i figured the xbox is busted so i called up the support guys and got them to agree with me and there sending me a box to send it to them to get repaired. but tonight i was messing with it and just for kicks i set it up through network sharing on my lap top and it got all the way through the live test. and then trying it again it started failing on the mtu, ip and on live at diffrent times. so im thinking its not actually broken? i have no idea at this point can any one make heads or tails of this before i send the xbox off to get fixed if its not even broken?
my set up is
isp petera wireless (small pos company but it worked before and i think the router to xbox concetion is the culpriate)
they have a little box i dono what it is modem? bridge? any ways that has the ethreanet cable from the wirless radio on top of the house to another ethernet cabel that plugs in to my router
routher is a wgr 614 v6 running the latest firmware (i did try downgrading no dice)
my xbox 360 is wired to the router thers 2 wired computers and a vonage box and one wireless laptop
fb.knight said:
i posted this over at xbox forms but i dont have much faith in them like i know xda has some real top notch people. top notch people that have better things to do but i just figured id try take a look if you got time.
im pretty sure this is a new one and if any one can help me i would be so greatful.
ok first i had live working great for about 3 weeks i didnt change anything and then all the sudden ip always fails.
so makes sense that it was my isp that changed something so i gave them a call they didnt know about anything so after further thinking i figured it was proably not the isp's fault but my conection to my router.
and sure enough my router dosnt even have the 360 in attatched devices (the link light for the port i plug it in to goes crazy just blinks on and off forever) any ways i tried all the normal trouble shooting
power cycled everything on the network
i set the ip manulay
i bypassed the router
reset xbox to factory settings
upgraded router firmware
removed everything from the router but the xbox and soft and hard reset it
still same problem.
heres where it gets real crazy i took the xbox to my friends house who has a 360 reset it to factory settings and pluged it in ip failed same as on my network. his xbox worked just fine on the exact same network. and we went through all the trouble shooting there 2
so i figured the xbox is busted so i called up the support guys and got them to agree with me and there sending me a box to send it to them to get repaired. but tonight i was messing with it and just for kicks i set it up through network sharing on my lap top and it got all the way through the live test. and then trying it again it started failing on the mtu, ip and on live at diffrent times. so im thinking its not actually broken? i have no idea at this point can any one make heads or tails of this before i send the xbox off to get fixed if its not even broken?
my set up is
isp petera wireless (small pos company but it worked before and i think the router to xbox concetion is the culpriate)
they have a little box i dono what it is modem? bridge? any ways that has the ethreanet cable from the wirless radio on top of the house to another ethernet cabel that plugs in to my router
routher is a wgr 614 v6 running the latest firmware (i did try downgrading no dice)
my xbox 360 is wired to the router thers 2 wired computers and a vonage box and one wireless laptop
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So when you say you've bypassed the router does that mean you've hooked up your 360 directly to your modem?
If that's the case and it still didn't work it looks like something is wrong with the Xbox itself.
Try removing the harddrive that it came with then hook it up to the network/directly to the modem and see if that works.
If that doesn't work then it's the definitely the xbox, as i find the 360 one of the most easiest things to get working on a network.
Also just for kicks if you have it setup to the router try enabling DMZ on the ip that belongs to the xbox and see if that works.
Hopes this helps.
Sorry, double post =/
fb.knight...... im sure I recognise ur name from the xbox forums...
I got my XBOX chipped (softmod) and it was hell getting the wireless to work... in the end it took 2 routers and one wireless bridge... Main router connected to wireless bridge connected to router (set to bridge mode) connected to XBOX. Was running the Evox dashboard but its been so long ive left my XBOX for awhile lol.
Sounds like the netcard in the xbox is hosed, if your box doesn't work with your friends normally working xbox point. I take it you used the working ethernet cable at your friends place, rather than your own, as cables can foo up.
Yeah also don't forget to make sure that you know when to use crossover and non crossover cables (Ethernet - RJ45)
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I have a Tilt and expect to stay in a hotel that has Internet access via Ethernet, but no WiFi.
Any ideas on how to best connect my Tilt to their Ethernet?
First idea is maybe a WiFi travel router or AP like the DWL-6730AP, but I hate the idea of carrying along extra equipment when the whole point of the Tilt is to avoid bringing my laptop.
Is there some sort of Ethernet-to-USB dongle?
The Tilt has Ethernet support native. Go to settings, select Wifi & switch to NE2000 Compatible Ethernet Driver.
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I have a Tilt and expect to stay in a hotel that has Internet access via Ethernet, but no WiFi.
Any ideas on how to best connect my Tilt to their Ethernet?
First idea is maybe a WiFi travel router or AP like the DWL-6730AP, but I hate the idea of carrying along extra equipment when the whole point of the Tilt is to avoid bringing my laptop.
Is there some sort of Ethernet-to-USB dongle?
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1. welcome to xda-devs
2. there is no memory card- or USB-based Ethernet interface for the Kaiser, sorry. Ethernet cards have only been produced as CF cards.
You could use something like a Linksys (or any brand, for that matter) WiFi router to do the trick and then connect to it.
You may run into an issue, though, because most hotels have an entry page where you have to accept their terms of service (yes, even the free ones do this) before getting out to the internet. It is possible that your router will not forward that properly to your phone, or that PIE won't render it properly and you won't be able to finish the signup.
Also note that unless you have something like a WRT54G Linksys router with custom firmware (like DD-WRT), you will be double-NATted, which may, in itself, cause problems.
@GSLEON3 - sure, the IP stack in the Tilt supports Ethernet, but you have to get Layer 1 out of the way first - the physical layer. If you can't physically connect an ethernet cable to the phone, how are you gonna get to the internet?
A lot of hotels have WiFi bridges so that you can use wireless-only devices on their network. Maybe they have one available? Then again, now that I think about it, maybe not. I'm thinking of the other way around where you don't have WiFi in your laptop and they only have WiFi, not ethernet connections. Nevermind. It's late...
I *think* this might work.....
Eithernet-to-USB cable
(http://www.ipenabled.com/netusb.html)
Then patch to a female-female USB coupler (http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_1_AA1582.html)
Then connect that to your normal PC sync cable.
Eithernet at one end, microUSB at the other.
The USB on the Kaiser doesn't work that way. It can act like a client (think ext. hard drive) but not a host (your PC). It's the same reason you can't connect an external hard drive to your phone.
capite said:
I have a Tilt and expect to stay in a hotel that has Internet access via Ethernet, but no WiFi.
Any ideas on how to best connect my Tilt to their Ethernet?
First idea is maybe a WiFi travel router or AP like the DWL-6730AP, but I hate the idea of carrying along extra equipment when the whole point of the Tilt is to avoid bringing my laptop.
Is there some sort of Ethernet-to-USB dongle?
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I use the 3COM Travel Router (3CRTV10075/WL-534) as its a small portable router with NAT and Firewall (stops others in the hotel from seeing your devices). It can be configured as Router, AP or Client so that in AP mode it will connect directly to the Ethernet connection in a hotel room and you have access for both your phone and laptop.
Thanks for the welcome and the ideas, everybody!
It's a shame the USB port won't work for an Internet connection. Has anyone ever tried just in case?
I guess it's a travel router then, I'll go with the 3Com unless anyone can confirm they have used the tiny Netgear WGR101 successfully.
Is the microSD conector I/O capable?? If so, we can plug there normal ethernet card....
i have a v1615 and want to use it to play online with my ps3 (which is in my car so i need some form of mobile connection) i have tried using WMWifiRouter which didnt work and i have tried using it wired but with no luck so has anyone got any ideas to help me???
i wouldnt recomend it unless you data service is free. coz the information that would download is insane and not to mention the data transfer speed will be slow
data useage isnt an issue as im Vodafone staff and on a true unlimited plan. I also have a HSDPA wireless usb modem and if you could think of a way to use that to get me ps3 online ide appreciate it!
see due to the price i aint got either a ps3 so i cant really help there, i just didnt want you doing it then getting a huge bill
tell us more bout your setups
on the phone or the whole in car solution?
kantosbrin said:
on the phone or the whole in car solution?
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The car solution please.
aye sorry internet went off what zee zee said
7" monitor in my head unit, ps3 (via crappy aux cables), psp and nokia n95 linked to a scart box which goes to the head unit. sub and amp in the boot ps3 powered off the amp via a invertor and the missing piece of the puzzle is online gaming also getin a 10.4" fold down roof mounted screen for the back but gota wait til payday now
i might be wrong here but i think youd need a driver on your ps3. so it recognises the tytn 2. but i wouldnt kno how to do that
What problems were you having with WMWifiRouter?
I use the paid version and it works flawlessly.
What steps did you take to try to get it working on the wired connection? I've used internet sharing through my usb cable and bluetooth and gotten it to work before, but depending on your computer and rom setup you may have issues (I've certainly run into a few).
EDIT: I assumed you had a computer in the car too but reading back I see no mention of this. If you have a laptop or a car computer you can use, this would solve your issue plus give you a computer in the car
Use clearwire
Hey everybody I have a quick question for ya. I have started using android wifi tether. i was not planning on using it for my computer. instead for game systems. That require wifi to go online like ds, psp, wii, and ps3. So after hours of messing around with it I came up with the conclusion of...... it dosen't work 0_o. So is there an app that could do what the android wifi tether does but no only for Pc. i heard of aNetshare. But I don't see a link on their website. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
I found the Wifi teather to work great. The only problem I see for gaming is the ping MS response time. Generally games require less then ~50ms ping to server to perform properly. When I tested the speed of T-mo 3G network using the wifi teather app, and my XP laptop at speedtest.net. I found just under 1MB up/down with about 130ms ping times.
I know the XBox 360 supports adhoc wireless connections, not sure about other handhelds/consoles, but the ping time would be really bad in any FPS type game. This however would be the limitation of the 3G network, not the application.
Not sure if any of you have found better response times using 3G or not.
Update...
I used the WiFi tether to connect my Xbox 360 to Live successfully. For two hours I played Modern Warfare 2 with NO lag. I was completely blown away by how well this worked.
I also was able to watch two episodes of leverage streaming from Netflix via the Xbox. The quality was reduced from my normal but it worked flawlessly. The video quality is determined by download speed which is just under 1MB for me with 3G.
I have the Microsoft wireless N adapter for the Xbox.
Good to hear I wasn't the only one. I did something similar to this back in October, where i had my G2 wifi sharing the net connection with my laptop, and then my laptop using a bridge to connect the xbox to that network (lan)
I'm on the rogers 7.2 mbps network, and managed to pull over 1mb speed too. Played some gears of war.
The reason I did this was 1/3 to see if it could be done, 1/3 to say I've done it, and 1/3 due to the fact that the I was moving/the net was cutoff.
The one problem that i would run into is overheating on the phone, obviously it's not really designed for that kind of load.
nobler1050 said:
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I used the WiFi tether to connect my Xbox 360 to Live successfully. For two hours I played Modern Warfare 2 with NO lag. I was completely blown away by how well this worked.
I also was able to watch two episodes of leverage streaming from Netflix via the Xbox. The quality was reduced from my normal but it worked flawlessly. The video quality is determined by download speed which is just under 1MB for me with 3G.
I have the Microsoft wireless N adapter for the Xbox.
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Did you have to bridge it?I want to take my xbox to work and play online but dont want to take a laptop too its just to much to carry around.Can you PLEASE provide tut for doing it cause I have not found 1 Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me.
Ok that was simple enough but how can I get the NAT strict setting to change for regular play online
th30p3rat0r said:
Good to hear I wasn't the only one. I did something similar to this back in October, where i had my G2 wifi sharing the net connection with my laptop, and then my laptop using a bridge to connect the xbox to that network (lan)
I'm on the rogers 7.2 mbps network, and managed to pull over 1mb speed too. Played some gears of war.
The reason I did this was 1/3 to see if it could be done, 1/3 to say I've done it, and 1/3 due to the fact that the I was moving/the net was cutoff.
The one problem that i would run into is overheating on the phone, obviously it's not really designed for that kind of load.
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Gears of war is awesome!
faceman469 said:
Did you have to bridge it?I want to take my xbox to work and play online but dont want to take a laptop too its just to much to carry around.Can you PLEASE provide tut for doing it cause I have not found 1 Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me.
Ok that was simple enough but how can I get the NAT strict setting to change for regular play online
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The only reason he used the laptop was because he didn't have the wireless adapter for his Xbox, at least that's my guess. If you have the wireless adapter, you should not need a laptop.
As far as the NAT strict issue, I did not have that with MW2, but that may be an issue with your carrier not the phone hardware or application. If your carrier has some type of limitations.
good program for wifi is :
WIFINDER
and
WIFI MANAGE widget
Barnacle Wifi/ WIfi tether works on the Ipad but not on my win7
Barnacle Wifi/ WIfi tether works on the Ipad but not on my win7 desktop.
I get good speeds on my ipad tethered to my phone. The win7 machine detects and connects to the network, however there is no data transfer that happens. I even disabled the firewall to check if that was the issue, but it wasnt.
Any ideas?
the regular old android wifi tether app works just fine for me. so far i have been able to connect to my win7 pc and an ipod touch. about to test with a ps3. will report on my findings. i found a link to the app somewhere on the site, just do a search for it
Wireless Tether
I got a Wii the other day and was playing around trying to get the Wifi tether from my hero to hookup.
I got it to find the network but when it went to test connection it never actually connected to my phone. I have all the security settings off on my hero wireless network so its %100 open.
Can anyone confirm this doesn't work or help me get this operational ?
I can confirm this doesn't work.
Wii software will only connect to an Infrastructure network, no Ad-Hocs...which is wii-tarded.
You could try connecting you computer to wifi tether and then sharing the internet connection with the Wii, you would probably need to share the connection to a router and then have the Wii connect to a router.
jakejm79 said:
You could try connecting you computer to wifi tether and then sharing the internet connection with the Wii, you would probably need to share the connection to a router and then have the Wii connect to a router.
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This is possible, but I can say I have never got it to work.
The other theory is that if you have a Tomato router (you probably don't) you might be able to repeat the signal through it as a standard network. Someone on XDA tried this for me and couldn't get it to work. I have a router I could load the firmware on, just don't have the time to play with it. I took the post for what is was worth and haven't had my Wii online in about 4 months
Kcarpenter said:
wii-tarded.
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I lol'd.
ten chars
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I lol'd.
ten chars
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I couldn't help my self
That sucks...
Maybe later tonight I will give a go at getting my DD-WRT flashed Linksys to connect to the phone and then broadcast an infrastructure signal to the Wii, I believe it should be possible.
you will have to usb tether your phone to your pc and use internet sharing on and connect to your router for it to work properly...
Honestly the speeds are mediocre at best
dude i just got a cheap linksys router like the 30 buck one and didnt set it up or anything i just immidieatly plugged it up put the ethernet cable in the modem slot and other end into computer and it connected to my psp and my wii just fine
Is there anyway I can use Bluetooth to connect to my ps3 to use 3g internet? Thanks
If you are rooted you should be able to use wifi tethering.
Yeah,I'm rooted. But my ps3 doesn't have wireless internet connection.
Just wondering if I can do it through Bluetooth. If so, how can I get them to pair. Or is there a way to do it through wired tether. If so, where can I get the wired tether?
PDAnet supports both USB and BT tethering. I've never used it. It's in the Market, just search "tether" and there's a free version. The free version blocks secure sites.
As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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Thanks a lot. I might have wifi on my ps3 I never tried it . But I will now.
Good luck with this, I can assure you that you will have a high bill with in the next few months! PS3 + Wireless Tether = High Bill and possible disconnection just a heads up!
I have unlimited data
Since we're on this topic, why do people keep saying you'll get disconnected or a higher bill if you tether? I've been told by a verizon store rep that Verizon doesn't even start "monitoring" your usage until you go beyond 5gigs/month. I've used at least 3-4gig consistently for the last 3 months with streaming music every day for a few hours each day, sometimes all day.
How does that differ from someone using it for tethering instead of streaming music, downloading apps, etc? Data is data right? Is there a way for Verizon to know you're tethered as apposed to just a heavy phone-only data user?
Has anyone ever really had a problem with this? I mean, it says "unlimited" on the data plan, and I've found no fine print limiting it anywhere so can they really legally do anything? (Thinking false advertising lawsuit if they did......)
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As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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I have done this before and use it to play MAG almost everyday for a couple of weeks. I never had any lag or disconnects and i never had a high phone bill and never disconnected from Verizon.
piercedtiger said:
Since we're on this topic, why do people keep saying you'll get disconnected or a higher bill if you tether? I've been told by a verizon store rep that Verizon doesn't even start "monitoring" your usage until you go beyond 5gigs/month. I've used at least 3-4gig consistently for the last 3 months with streaming music every day for a few hours each day, sometimes all day.
How does that differ from someone using it for tethering instead of streaming music, downloading apps, etc? Data is data right? Is there a way for Verizon to know you're tethered as apposed to just a heavy phone-only data user?
Has anyone ever really had a problem with this? I mean, it says "unlimited" on the data plan, and I've found no fine print limiting it anywhere so can they really legally do anything? (Thinking false advertising lawsuit if they did......)
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I've heard that Verizon can and will monitor your usage and if you use huge amounts (probably like 10+ gigs a month) then they may shut you off or at least look into it. Also heard from Gizmodo I think it was, that some cell company's don't ACTUALLY mean unlimited when they say unlimited data. Some probably have caps at about 20+ gigs or something. Never heard which company's it was though. And this all may just be a bunch of crap so don't quote me on this
I know the wireless tether for what ever reason the ps3 will not pick it up atleast it wouldnt for me I tried it a couple times just to check and see if it would work but no luck.
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I know the wireless tether for what ever reason the ps3 will not pick it up atleast it wouldnt for me I tried it a couple times just to check and see if it would work but no luck.
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I too have this problem. Im using android tether and tried many different settings. I changed the channel, the ip, with and without a passcode, and got nothing. I think I do remember seeing in the bluetooth settings something about bluetooth modem. I hope someone can figure it out.
cwhite8883 said:
I too have this problem. Im using android tether and tried many different settings. I changed the channel, the ip, with and without a passcode, and got nothing. I think I do remember seeing in the bluetooth settings something about bluetooth modem. I hope someone can figure it out.
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the ps3, along with pretty much everything else except for actual computers, cant connect to Ad-Hoc networks as an internet connection.
you can though, if you have a Cat 5e crossover cable (radioshack has em), plug that into your network port, then go into network adapter settings and bridge your network cable port and USB connection port. the ps3 might be able to play off of that, it works on the 360 atleast
Ok well looks like I know what I am going to mess with when I get home. Thanks for the help.
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No, I just called Verizon and once you break 20 gig's of tethered data, they shut that **** down.