anyone use this at all, from the time that i upgraded my rom, even when i first got my phone w/ the oem tilt rom, it has not worked. I changed the settings on my phone because initially the internet wasn't working, but not it works fine, i'm using palingro...but i at least want to try the oz because there are some things that bother me about it.
and by the way, i'm connecting using the att network, not wifi...as that is the first thing it says when its having trouble connecting. but honestly, no matter what i change in my phone, i'm still getting the "communication error. please try again or check your settings. IM is not supported over wi-fi connections" error.
any help/ideas?
gotten quite a few views, any input guys?
heya sim,
I use the OZ cab, both stock installed on the phone and installed with custom rom. I have experienced the situation you detail. It seems to happen when I close it down a way it didn't like or do something internet-wise with another program.
Fixing it usually only requires a quick turn off then turn on. It does get annoying sometimes when it happens.
Also I would like to add it doesn't seem very responsive as far as receiving messages goes either. Like sometimes I will get a message on my computer at roughly 12 in the afternoon and will not see it on the phone until after dinner. I have even had a couple experiences where I didn't receive messages until after the program had been restarted.
I will be trying another messaging program soon that doesn't use up messaging on my phone, this is part of what I believe makes it slow is the fact it uses messaging instead of internet.
any recommendations? / questions?
oh great...you mean to tell me that the oz messenger is sms based and not internet based? jeeze...i REALLY dont wanna pay for agile
yes this is what they told me at AT&T, There are a few out there that use internet via data connection (3g, hsdpa, etc.) agile being one of them...isnt it free tho? The same goes for Fring, and i believe IM+ you have to pay for but uses data connection aswell.
Yea, i use the OZ one, but only as a way of checking my current buddy lists in AIM and Yahoo. Its very unreliable for actually carrying a conversation. Also, its very clunky to use if you log into 2 or 3 messengers at once. One of the features about this phone that really made me want it (instant messaging on the go) has been pretty lackluster to me. I have yet to try any different messenger suites yet.
Ill let you both know for sure how the others work in comparison as I intend to try a couple other non sms bases ones
OZ messenger is LAME.. go to Palringo.com from your phone. Download it. Way better and its free push to talk built in.
you guys wont be disappointed with Palringo. You can have your AOL, Google Talk/Jabber, MSM messenger, yahoo. It signs in really quick about 2 seconds, gets all your friends, no drops in connection, Beautiful software and best of all its free.
gqstatus0685 said:
you guys wont be disappointed with Palringo. You can have your AOL, Google Talk/Jabber, MSM messenger, yahoo. It signs in really quick about 2 seconds, gets all your friends, no drops in connection, Beautiful software and best of all its free.
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mine ALWAYS drops my aim connection. i have no idea why. It keeps my google chat online constantly though, but not aim. anybody know of a sms based messenger for aim by any chance?
ok, i guess the problem w/ my messenger was the data package that i had with AT&T, now that i upgraded, i can sign on. only problem is, when i'm online...i'm not really online. it shows that all my buddys are off, when i check on another computer (different SN) if i'm on, its says i'm not. anyone know what the hell this is about? it seems like one problem after another w/ this....
plus i'm using the "OZ_Instant_Messanger_at_t_AKU_0.4.4" cab. thanx in advance
Agile
I have dumped Oz because it is slow to connect at times. At times it connects but it does not tell you so, that is you show up on a buddies computer but your phone still shows that it has not connected. Also, in this case if you quit the program, (stop it from memory) you are still logged on. Added to this is that you get charged for text messages!!
So, I have gone to Agile, which is data only. It connects fine too. It is pricey but it does the job. I am using it on a Treo 750. My service is At&T. It also does PTT etc.
AIM
The AIM client also uses data only and not SMS. So if you do not need the other message servers like Yahoo or MSN or Google etc. then AIM might be a good option. You can find it on this forum.
I had been using the OZ client on a trip earlier this month for the first time - did not care for the SMS integration of it at all. Every time a reply would come in you'd get a system SMS message. I've just installed the Palringo client listed above and it seems to work very well. Thanks for the heads up.
I use slick it's easy and free
yea wish i had read this thread prior to sending those 100 sms messeages at .15 cents each. Wait employee discount! oh **** not for sms. hahaha
gdit at&t!!
gonna check out one of these two you guys mentioned, that oz one does suck
and i have unimited data only.
I really wish I read this before paying for IM+. I like their service but have had a lot of problems lately when I flash roms constantly. Crap like always having to put in my resistration and then saying that my registration number is being used. I would understand if I stole the software but I paid good money for it.
I tried aglie and really like the GUI, but I'm not in the mood to spend that much money for another program.
I just downloaded palringo and from first impression really like it. The only thing I don't like is that it won't keep my always connected. Battery isn't an issue and neither is data.
I hear that. Im waiting and watching for something better.
BTW super rocks!
How about Fring?
freekquency said:
I hear that. Im waiting and watching for something better.
I've had great luck with fring... Use it and if you twitter it has a built in twitter interface that's outside of the normal IM integration, it's pretty slick.
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I use slick it's easy and free
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same here.. been using it since i first bought my tilt and no complaints to day
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Sorry if wrong area, can someone point me to where I can get the AIM program for my tilt? I did a clean install and didn't want the bloatware, and of course that meant the AIM wasn't installed. I would like that one part back on the tilt.
IM+ is supposedly the best utility. However you have to pay for a license so I don't really know I don't think it's worth it.
I hate IM+. Slick is way better, plus it's free.
kareem9nba said:
I hate IM+. Slick is way better, plus it's free.
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Never heard of Slick.....
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
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http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
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does it support AIM Logging? Thanks
redsrule2500 said:
IM+ is supposedly the best utility. However you have to pay for a license so I don't really know I don't think it's worth it.
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I bought it. Sucks if you use AIM. Takes FOREVER to connect sometimes. Says it fails the connection.
starstreak said:
I bought it. Sucks if you use AIM. Takes FOREVER to connect sometimes. Says it fails the connection.
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Well that sucks....get your $$ back!!
Anyone know what it could be? Have you tried Slick?
Tried Slick some time ago. Felt the same way like starstreak about the AIM release for WM6.
it's built in a cheap way and u can't even enter messages with the jog wheel.
I tried IM+ as well but since that cost money I downloaded slick after the trial ended.
slick is quite ok..easy to handle and it has everything a good chat program should have.
The only thing that I didn't like that much was the design...but who cares if it works better than the original AIM
ATT Tilt IM CAB
I think this is what ya want...
The problem with OZ is that it uses SMS instead of data. So it's only good if you have an unlimited SMS plan.
Thanks, I'll try it once I get home.
Yes, that is true, but if it allows me to connect on the first try, then that is fine. I'm already paying $4.99 for 700text and I don't get that many sms messages so this should be fine as a backup.
UPDATE: Oh slap me! I switch to tmobile. lol. The AIM program works only on the ATT network. Does anybody have something that will work on the TILT with the T-Mobile network?
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Thanks, I'll try it once I get home.
Yes, that is true, but if it allows me to connect on the first try, then that is fine. I'm already paying $4.99 for 700text and I don't get that many sms messages so this should be fine as a backup.
UPDATE: Oh slap me! I switch to tmobile. lol. The AIM program works only on the ATT network. Does anybody have something that will work on the TILT with the T-Mobile network?
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AIM sign-on, sign-off and refresh buddy list use SMS messages too. Use it as your own risk.
I am using the older version of Agile and I like it (the latest version is not a freeware anymore).
yuck i'd only do a data-only AIM and just find a wi-fi hotspot.
missing the point. the IM+ seems to fail alot for the AIM. I need something that I can connect quickly and disconnect when done.
I use Agile. No issues whatsoever.
You can also get palringo which is a freeware. Works well. This is what I used before getting Agile.
Palringo Download
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why pay
as someone posted before.. THIS LINK!
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
thats best IM app I tried so far.. tried every single one yo all mentioned THEY ALL SUCKED
this slick is sick sick sick ! just crashes sometimes not sure why.. just quits with no error
but its quick and got way more settings then other free ones.. could use bit more but I'm not complaining
if anyone figures out crashing part.. hit me up..
thanks
I <3 Agile Messenger been using since beta, it lets you use the pointless ptt button (pointless for me anyway) and send voice links thru whatever messenger your using. It also doesn't disconnect you when your in a phone call which most others seem to do.
http://agilemessenger.com
thanks for all the other suggestions. Since I paid for the IM+ I really didn't want to give money to another unless I HAD to. Yes, I did try the IM+ before buying, and it did work when I used it. Just there are times when it won't AIM connect for like 5mins for no reason. At least with the sms AIM, I know I can send out in case the IM+ don't work.
I'm not sure exactly whats up with my phone, since you can't change any of the connection settings under OZ...but when i try to sign onto aim, it keeps saying "communications error. please try again or check your settings. IM is not supported over wi-fi connections" the funny thing i'm surfer the web right now, checking email, but for some reason i can't sign onto aim. any ideas? thanks in advance
you can surf the web over wifi but oz manager does not support it so even though you are connected to a wifi network it will not work.
thats the first thing i read...i'm not using wifi, i'm using AT&T network...so, again since there's no settings in the oz instant messenger menu...anyone have any guesses?
This phone is just a piece of Paper Weight
Mod Edit: Keep It Cool.
turn ur wifi off and it should work fine
Since the user says they are not on WiFi I really dont think that will do much. OZ IM is hit or miss with the Tilt. In my expierience its either hit or miss. I dont even use it now. I either use BeeJive or IM+. They work great for using IM on a data connection since you say thats what you're using.
ZooYorkJohn said:
This phone is just a piece of ****
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Thanks for your constructive comment Dill weed.
question answered thread closed.
I've been using Shape Services IM+ for a month now and I'm completely frustrated with it. I understand the fact that it cant be connected to data when I'm on a call, thats not my problem. My issue with it is that it wont reconnect when I'm done with the call even though I have set to do so. I also have my data connection to always be on. Is there an instant messenger out there that immediately reconnects when your done with a phone call? Thanks!
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I've been using Shape Services IM+ for a month now and I'm completely frustrated with it. I understand the fact that it cant be connected to data when I'm on a call, thats not my problem. My issue with it is that it wont reconnect when I'm done with the call even though I have set to do so. I also have my data connection to always be on. Is there an instant messenger out there that immediately reconnects when your done with a phone call? Thanks!
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I'm pretty sure Palringo does, plus its still free.
Try Fring too.
This Wroks Great For me
never mind ...........
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I'm pretty sure Palringo does, plus its still free.
Try Fring too.
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Appriciate the suggestion. I'll check it out.
Hi, I'm using mChat for a couple of time ... but this is primarly a Jabber Chat Client, but also supports MSN (testing) and ICQ ...
I've searched for a link, but it seems that the mChat project is now smaper ...
http://smape.com/smaper/wm/downloads
this site is in russion, but the program itself multilunguage support (english and russian, but in mChat i used german):
http://77.222.35.67/smaperfiles/wm/smaper101w_pe.cab
So, i'm really happy with mChat and i tried many messenger on mobile phones I found a link for the old mChat:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-mchat-v2-3-0-1.html
So i was just introduced to this program the other day. It works great, i get my e-mails on my phone just a few seconds later. It doesn't seem to lower my battery life much at all, and it was very easy to setup.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
register and download the beta. I've been using this for about 3 days and i've gotten about 50 e-mails through this service and i always check the times and it's never more than a minute later.
I would like to get a consensus about how well this works for others. I'm using Gmail and it forwards very fast.
UPDATE: Just wanted to add, do not install this if you have XpressMail installed on your device as they use some of the same files they both will become unusable.
before i try
how does it work?
is it constantly connected to data? or does it send as a text or what?
i knew i forgot something, i've got my Touch pro on a constant Edge connection with constant data enabled. I'm not 100% positive the data connection is needed but i think you do. Other Idle Imap apps, i've tried needed constant connection.
I've been using this for a while now and it does require a constant connection, but it is a lot less power hungry than other push solutions or even the native POP / IMAP connections. Seven basically creates e-mail accounts within the native messaging application, so there's no need to have an additional application. It allows you to setup multiple e-mail accounts to be pushed, including Google Apps.
And for those of us that change roms regularly, Seven saves your account information (sans passwords) so that you don't have to start from scratch everytime you flash a new rom.
One thing to note is that Seven is essentially in permanent beta, so there will be times when it goes down for upgrades, maintenance or bugs. But that doesn't happen very often and they are usually pretty good about communicating what is going on and when to expect a solution.
Been using this for a year and it's the best! Woohoo! I love this!
I tried emoze, pushconsilient, and web2mail. I like "SEVEN" out of all of them. I get my email on my phone before my outlook does on my pc.
Thanks!!
It's really COOL and i can now check the gmail and even the company mail (OWA)!
Very nice!!
does it do "better"then Emoze?
I use Emoze now for a year and i have no problem.
Does it use less more power?
i've just tested, but i like Emoze more then Seven.
Emoze connects een fast as seven, but now i get also mine appointpents ect. synced.
So i keep it with emoze.
Seven is the dev company that supplies AT&T with Good Mobile Messaging and such. They sell the product (serverside) to the Cell carriers, who inturn rebrand it and "sell/offer" the service to the carrier's susbcribers.
I have been using it for 3 years for multiple accounts... no more desktop redirectors.
It currently uses a data connection, but in the future it will work via SMS triggers
gr8 share thank you
A few days ago, I started using it for both my Gmail and my company mail (via OWA).
At first, it took a few minutes for new mail to show up in either. Now, I'm finding that new messages in my gmail are showing up almost instantly (under a minute at least), but work messages are taking between 5-15 minutes (I can confirm via the desktop that they are indeed in the inbox).
Anyone else see this sort of delay?
is this based on Exchange 2007 aka HTML emails? Doesn't seem to let me into the FAQ's before creating an account...
I use this service and i love it.
i'm glad to see so many people who support and use this App, and those of you who don't use it i recommend it.
I tried it for 2 days, I love it... However, since it used data constantsly, it heats up my device badly... so I uninstalled it.
Thanks for the share thou.
goes this get around the gmail issue where sent messages also appear as new unread emails?
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goes this get around the gmail issue where sent messages also appear as new unread emails?
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Seven does not have this problem. Additionally, the sent messages get saved in your sent folder on gmail.
pandaboyy said:
I tried it for 2 days, I love it... However, since it used data constantsly, it heats up my device badly... so I uninstalled it.
Thanks for the share thou.
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Do you keep HSDPA going? I keep it on an EDGE connection and i don't get much heat at all.
It's a shakey time for anyone who sees this thread to try it out, though. They did some sort of heavy maintenance Monday, and although their status updates say everything's back, I'm not sure it is. I'm seeing big delays in getting my gmail via imap through them. I suspect it will be worked out soon, though.
Has anyone seen this? I just installed the 15 day trial and it seems pretty stable.
http://mundu.com/products/mundu-im/screenshots
Also the only way I found the apk was through the site. I havent found it on the Market yet...
checking this out now. i like it so far. HiAIM is nice, but i dont like chat bubbles plus this will let me on all of the rest of the services too, it's like trillian for android.
I can't seem to connect to it, my AIM just sits at "Authenticating..." for ever
You know it was working perfectly for me at first. Now its doing the same thing you describe.
Ugh. Why cant we find ONE im app that stays connected?
Senorkabob said:
You know it was working perfectly for me at first. Now its doing the same thing you describe.
Ugh. Why cant we find ONE im app that stays connected?
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Hello IM does
and now Meebo does too, i mena it disconnects from time to time, but the auto-reconnect works perfectly.
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Hello IM does
and now Meebo does too, i mena it disconnects from time to time, but the auto-reconnect works perfectly.
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Excuse me, but Meebo absolutely SUCKS !!!
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Excuse me, but Meebo absolutely SUCKS !!!
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Actually, the latest update has been working amazingly well.
Bu I'm gonna check this one out as well.
Actually, forget that.
$11,- for a chat app?
hahahahahahahaha.
I prefer Palringo myself. Does all those except ICQ and Jabber I beleive.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.paxmodept.palringo.android.main
Meebo build 15 keeps you on now and auto-reconnects. It will also notify you if it is unable to reconnect due to no data (edge/3g/wifi).
I'll give this a run.
After running Mundu for the trial period, I decided not to buy it. It disconnects way too often and when it does, it will stick at "Authenticating..." until I force close the app and restart it. It's too bad, I really love the interface and has all that I am looking for but I need AIM to stay connected.
I e-mailed support and of course they blame my connection. But here I am using HiAIM and it doesn't disconnect, EVER. I guess I'll have to live with the lack of great interface/options in HiAIM.
I see someone never mentioned ebuddy or buddymob both are great IM applications and buddymob have yet to log me out unless i make a phone call or incoming call, which leave me wondering if it does that to every IM application out there?
Salku said:
I see someone never mentioned ebuddy or buddymob both are great IM applications and buddymob have yet to log me out unless i make a phone call or incoming call, which leave me wondering if it does that to every IM application out there?
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If you're on Edge, you lose data connecton during phone calls. If you're connected via 3g or wifi, your IM connection wouldn't drop. I use both Hello IM! and Meebo (not at the same time) and both of them rarely log me off because I'm either on wifi or 3g connection.
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I see someone never mentioned ebuddy or buddymob both are great IM applications and buddymob have yet to log me out unless i make a phone call or incoming call, which leave me wondering if it does that to every IM application out there?
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Are you sure you aren't losing connection and it is reconnecting? People told me Palringo wouldnt disconnect for them, but testing it I found it disconnected quite frequently and was just fast to reconnect. Definitely a turn off for your friends that have you on a buddy list
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If you're on Edge, you lose data connecton during phone calls. If you're connected via 3g or wifi, your IM connection wouldn't drop. I use both Hello IM! and Meebo (not at the same time) and both of them rarely log me off because I'm either on wifi or 3g connection.
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I do have 3G on my cell but yet it logs off and reconnects after the conversation ends.
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Are you sure you aren't losing connection and it is reconnecting? People told me Palringo wouldnt disconnect for them, but testing it I found it disconnected quite frequently and was just fast to reconnect. Definitely a turn off for your friends that have you on a buddy list
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Yes infact it really does annoys and i noticed my friend logged in and out because of it. I noticed it reconnected because of the notification bar, does HI IM have one?
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I do have 3G on my cell but yet it logs off and reconnects after the conversation ends.
Yes infact it really does annoys an i noticed my friend logged in and out because of it. I noticed it reconnected because of the notification bar, does HI IM have one?
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Have one what? HiAIM does not disconnect me at all (unless I am on a call, not it's fault though). I tested this by keeping an IM open with my cell phone's AIM screen name and no notices of sign off/on. I did this same thing with Palringo and would see it reconnect every few minutes.
It sucks because I like the Mundu interface, but I can't find anything as stable as HiAIM. Maybe I'll dust off my programming knowledge and try to create something on my own that will have a customizable interface as well as a stable connection
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Have one what? HiAIM does not disconnect me at all (unless I am on a call, not it's fault though). I tested this by keeping an IM open with my cell phone's AIM screen name and no notices of sign off/on. I did this same thing with Palringo and would see it reconnect every few minutes.
It sucks because I like the Mundu interface, but I can't find anything as stable as HiAIM. Maybe I'll dust off my programming knowledge and try to create something on my own that will have a customizable interface as well as a stable connection
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Well the customization doesnt sound half bad so people can find their own colours, but im going to test out the connection thru every messenger connection.
IM
I use meebo and it has always been stable, the autostart and UI works well. Plus its free.