Just dropped my Tilt - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I just set my tilt on top of a dresser, thinking it was fully on the surface, and watched it cascade down onto a solid, uncarpeted floor. Left me with a scattered battery cover, battery, and phone. After reassembling, I found that the phone "seemingly" still works ok. There is a hairline crack in the faceplate on the top right corner, and the back housing edge on the right side is skewed outwards.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? Get replacement parts and try to do it myself? Seek warranty or repair? Send to AT&T or HTC for repair? Get AT&T phone insurance incase i knocked something loose inside and my phone dies in the relative future?
I'm beside myself right now. I'm so careful with my things and paranoid about the slightest scratch on anything. I still have the first portable cd player that I bought in 1997, and it still works like a charm.
Any suggestions? Grievances? Condolences?
Thanks for any replies...

nrudolph7 said:
I just set my tilt on top of a dresser, thinking it was fully on the surface, and watched it cascade down onto a solid, uncarpeted floor. Left me with a scattered battery cover, battery, and phone. After reassembling, I found that the phone "seemingly" still works ok. There is a hairline crack in the faceplate on the top right corner, and the back housing edge on the right side is skewed outwards.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? Get replacement parts and try to do it myself? Seek warranty or repair? Send to AT&T or HTC for repair? Get AT&T phone insurance incase i knocked something loose inside and my phone dies in the relative future?
I'm beside myself right now. I'm so careful with my things and paranoid about the slightest scratch on anything. I still have the first portable cd player that I bought in 1997, and it still works like a charm.
Any suggestions? Grievances? Condolences?
Thanks for any replies...
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Last time I dropped a phone and cracked the case Cingular did fix it under warranty. It was a while ago though, with my old TDMA Motorola Startac. I'd at least call warranty exchange and see what they have to say.
-Jay

I dont think phone insurance is available for the tilt and other expensive devices because it is not worth it for ATT, they would be losing a lot of money every time. Check ebay for spare parts...

Thanks guys, I'll take those into consideration. It's not a pressing issue until something stops working, but it'll bother me until I do something about it...
Thank you!

In the UK, HTC Europe handle all hardware facia repairs, I had a new cover for my MDA Compact (HTC Magician) and it was only £20, and it looked like new.
Screens are much more expensive!
I'd expect there to be a similar setup in the US.

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Broke My Att Tilt!

Dropped my phone and the screen is all inked up NOW!
I purchased the phone about a month and a half ago...
the screen is the only thing thats messed up...it still made sounds and stuff like normal.
WHAT SHOULD I DO"?
Im so confused.
NappyBoy001 said:
Dropped my phone and the screen is all inked up NOW!
I purchased the phone about a month and a half ago...
the screen is the only thing thats messed up...it still made sounds and stuff like normal.
WHAT SHOULD I DO"?
Im so confused.
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Is it "obvious" that the phone took a fall? If not, then you could probably get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.
I never had a screen issue with my 8125, but I did brick around 7 of them from various issues with flashing custom roms. As long as I was careful with how I worded it, I got a new phone each time.
NotATreoFan said:
Is it "obvious" that the phone took a fall? If not, then you could probably get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.
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Screens don't just crack. They'll sniff out the lie.
and another one...i do feel better now after i broke mine, since it is a tilt u should be able to go through service see how much that will cost, if its over $200 u might be better off doing it urself by getting a screen elsewhere
My screen was cracked after 4 days of having it :')
It was inside my pocket without any further protection and i walked against something. Did cost me 136 euro to fix the screen.
NotATreoFan said:
get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.....As long as I was careful with how I worded it, I got a new phone each time.
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the phone dosent really looked banged up on anything. what should i tell them. i really wanna get out of this not paying a thing...i paid to much for this phone.
benchMarc said:
My screen was cracked after 4 days of having it :')
It was inside my pocket without any further protection and i walked against something. Did cost me 136 euro to fix the screen.
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where did you get yous fixed?
Unless you insured it somehow, you're going to have to pay to replace it. I don't see why anyone should pay for your accident if you didn't arrange coverage for it somehow.
they don't allow you to get insurance on it.
AT&T might not, but you can add it to your homeowners/renters policy or secure outside insurance from a third party (Safeware is one that I'm aware of). Mine is covered under my homeowner's insurance at a very low cost.
aite. but what do i do?
NotATreoFan said:
get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.....As long as I was careful with how I worded it, I got a new phone each time.
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the phone dosent really looked banged up on anything. what should i tell them. i really wanna get out of this not paying a thing...i paid to much for this phone.
benchMarc said:
My screen was cracked after 4 days of having it :')
It was inside my pocket without any further protection and i walked against something. Did cost me 136 euro to fix the screen.
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where did you get yous fixed?
You go buy a replacement or get the screen fixed. They're not going to believe that you didn't break it yourself. I believe PocketPC Techs advertises that they can fix the screen.
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db1-0d15896736f242ad61bedaefd7d48e58.jhtml
This is an auction site like ebay in China. Buy it now price is 400 RMB. equals $55 approx.
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db1-0d15896736f242ad61bedaefd7d48e58.jhtml
This is an auction site like ebay in China. Buy it now price is 400 RMB. equals $55 approx.
I cracked my screen just s few days after getting it. I just repaired it this morning.
Contact njbridges here on the forum, or go to www.phoneystore.com and order the LCD from him. You have to get the whole LCD, as the digitizer portion is not available as a separate component. It cost me $120 + shipping to the US. He even included all the tools you need to make the repair. It literally took me 15 minutes to do. There are 4 torx screws under the display to remove, and then you use the separator tool that is included to remove the top housing. Once you've done that, unplug the LCD, slide it out, slide the new one in, reconnect the LCD, reassemble the top plastics, replace the screws, power back on, and you're done.
It's really simple to do. Why pay someone else to do it (especially if you're given the correct tools for the job).
Regards,
Jeff
Send it to at&t just don't tell them that the screen is broken tell them that it doesn't turn on, it worked for me and my 8125.
NappyBoy001 said:
Dropped my phone and the screen is all inked up NOW!
I purchased the phone about a month and a half ago...
the screen is the only thing thats messed up...it still made sounds and stuff like normal.
WHAT SHOULD I DO"?
Im so confused.
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Me, too.
I just got back from Panama City, Panama where I was without my screen for a week. I talked on my phone while leaving the mall, put it in my pocket and pulled it out 15 minutes later after getting out of a taxi and the screen was broken. I'll be calling AT&T as this is my business' corp account. I had insurance on my Treo and my 8125, but think I may have dropped it on this one.
It does suck. The phone was three weeks old. I've gone back to my 8125 that's gone through hell and back without any problems....
I've got my fingers crossed or else I'll just order the screen myself.
Joe
www.jozle.com
http://www.phoneystore.com/product.asp?id=114327
See someone else posted this sight above also. I believe this will be the lest expensive way to go.
trick420 said:
I cracked my screen just s few days after getting it. I just repaired it this morning.
Contact njbridges here on the forum, or go to www.phoneystore.com and order the LCD from him. You have to get the whole LCD, as the digitizer portion is not available as a separate component. It cost me $120 + shipping to the US. He even included all the tools you need to make the repair. It literally took me 15 minutes to do. There are 4 torx screws under the display to remove, and then you use the separator tool that is included to remove the top housing. Once you've done that, unplug the LCD, slide it out, slide the new one in, reconnect the LCD, reassemble the top plastics, replace the screws, power back on, and you're done.
It's really simple to do. Why pay someone else to do it (especially if you're given the correct tools for the job).
Regards,
Jeff
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thanx man,
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thanx man,
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Any time. One thing to note, putting the outer plastic cover back on is a little bit of a bear - it's a tight fit. you will need to put some serious pressure on the housings to snap them together. It's especially difficult on the power button side of the phone. I used a small flat screwdriver between the top and the keyboard to support the carrier plastics on the top and then used thumb pressure to snap the top plastic to the carrier.
Jeff
As someone who has been through quite a few exchanges with Cingular (none since AT&T officially took over), and as a former employee of a Cingular warranty service provider, I can tell you that they do cover screen damage under very specific circumstances.
When going through the process on the phone, they will ask you basic questions like:
"Is there a pink strip under the battery?" - Indicates water damage
"Was the phone ever dropped from a distance greater than 2 feet?" - This is the important question for screen damage. Damage sustained from drops of 18 inches or less are covered.
It is a reasonable assumption that a cell phone, which is handheld most of the time, will be dropped on occasion.
The biggest question is whether or not the phone shows signs of "physical abuse". If you can answer no to that, then you should have no problem getting your phone exchanged.

Advice from someone who has disassembled their Kaiser?

This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
jon_k said:
This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
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I dont know but man I hope that there isn't. Have you tried contacting invisishield? Never mind, b/c they'll blame you. Most applicators like that use alcohol to evaporate the remaining moisture that's left. My friend applied it to his, and he used very little liquid(scared), so GOOD LUCK!! I MEAN IT
Tough break, sounds dangerous to pour liquid on the screen though !
On a related matter has anyone seen pics of a Kaiser pulled apart ? Still wondering where the GPS antenna is located !
Yeah, I hope I don't get shafted.
I love the invisibleshield, and I put one on my $1,500 DSLR camera screen, but since the Kaiser screen is recessed a bit, when you squeegee the solution out from under the screen, it cannot be wiped away. It just gets pushed out between the phone's body bezel, and the screen glass -- right in to the phone. With my DSLR camera, the screen is flush with the body, so when squeegee'd I could quickly wipe the water/alcohol away.
Contacting Invisibleshield got me:
Our liability does not extend beyond our product. The lifetime warranty only covers the replacement of the invisibleSHIELD and NOT a warranty for the device the shield is protecting.
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If ATT charges me the $400 if they find out, I guess I'll pay it. It's my fault, but by extension of invisibleshield. Guess I'll learn not to use that product on anything that has a recessed screen. I was thinking of buying an invisible shield for my laptop as well, but it's screen is slightly recessed like the kaiser, so you can forget me doing that!
xmoo said:
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
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That was why I bought the 'best screen shield on the market' for scratches (invisibleshield). Coincidentally that was the demise of my phone. I also purchased a steel case that basically would let me sit on my phone (uncomfortably) if i wanted. The desire to protect my phone, did the opposite in my case.
Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
zcink said:
Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
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Could be, zcink. The replacement phone is on it's way. I can remove the battery during this time it takes for the replacement to come and see what happens. Unfortunately, I think one of the following has happened:
1) Water seeped between the LCD protetcive glass, and the LCD itself, and somehow soaked in to the LCD causing mini shorts -- thus resulting in kludged text.
2) Water seeped to the phone's connecting cable where the screen input is, dried on the wires, thus creating a short -- destroying the signal.
Either way, when the liquid dry's, the mineral deposits causing the short will still exist, still causing a short. For both, repair requires disassembly, voiding my warranty. I could buy a new replacement screen from the China place for about $100, but if ATT /might/ replace it without screwing me, I'll take the chance. Just wanted to know what my chances /were/ them finding out it's got water in it.
I guess the moral is.
Don't buy from InvisibleShield, unless you use a SPARING amount of spray they they include. They include a huge bottle, and I used 2 sprays worth applied to my shield. This created enough excess to be squeegeed right into my phones body. The phone worked great for a few days, until one day at work, while I was using it -- BAM -- the screen was dead.
There isn't the water dectector there, but I'm pretty sure the technicians would notice the damaged screen.
I know those screen protectors, used them for alot of things. Using one right now actully. Its the one you wash with soap and warm water, and just let it dry, it have a static adhesive to the the scree.
I see. yeah hopefully the ATT tech will be lazy and just grant you the warranty without investigating. just play dumb. If they charge you the $400 call them up and threaten to switch to T-Mobile.
My phone died and T-Mobile was going to do nothing until I threatened to switch to ATT, then they replaced it.
I seriously doubt that they will be able to tell unless you really soaked it, next time use a dry screen protector, they work just fine, no bubbles. The only moisture sensor is on the battery, and if it was a tiny amount of moisture, there's likely no signs in the screen assembly. AT&T isn't likely going to dissect the screen to check.
Kaiser disassembly howto
I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
Hadn't heard of that screen protector before, guess it would work well on an HTC Touch, not sure how the "full body" version works though!
gabriel31337 said:
I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
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Amazing find. Thanks!
It appears to me that the screen itself is it's own modular unit. Meaning, after phone disassembly, you'd have to disassemble the actual screen itself. Further, there is no moisture indicators directly by the assembly it seems.
Knock on wood, but I'd hope a tech wouldn't go that far to determine the fault of the phone. I assume they would if theres telltale signs of water damage to the display (streaking might be a common sign.) But, maybe, just maybe, they won't.
http://www.gpspassion.com/download/HTC_Kaiser_disassembly.pdf
updating link
RemE said:
The only moisture sensor is on the battery
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The service manual shows 4 of them, one under the battery that can be seen from the outside, one at the top and one at the bottom of the mainboard's other side, and.. one on the board that holds the bottom front panel switches, so very close to the LCD.
Personally I wouldn't have asked for a replacement phone, I'd have disassembled the phone and tried to clean it if made dirty by the liquid, bought a spare screen off ebay if it was definitely dead, and if ultimately it didn't work bought another phone off ebay for less than $400. But maybe I like risk
Here, Perfect for what you need, used it myself: http://www.mindsofwisemen.com/fileso/other/ReplacingTheLCDonaKaiser.pdf
Best wishes
Mod Edit:
Not sure if the above noted guide is officially and with permission uploaded to that site, but to give credit to members here it is (SKDVR’s Adaption of Tony Chen’s guide)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2247685&postcount=19
i took mine apart to replace the screen; pics and info on what i did and where i got it. didn't see any water indicators near the screen when i did it, didn't think to look...
Keyboard membrane removal.
So, I've had trouble with my keyboard lately and wanted to just clean off the contacts on the membrane...but I can't seem to get the damned thing out of the plastic keyboard Middle Housing.
I have gotten everything apart so the housing is separated. Verified that I did it the way the service manual says...but i saw NOTHING about how to disassemble the keyboard from the housing.
PLZ! Pictures are good.
Try replacing digitizer screen
found that digitizer screen is above lcd and can be purcased for about $10 on ebay
hello guys,
my tytn II cant detect simcard saying the simcard is missing.
Any idea whats wrong???

I stepped on my Tilt! do you think its just the LCD? (See pic)

So my tilt fell off my clip while I was out in the yard and before I realized it, I had walked all over it. Everything seems to function but the LCD colors area all jacked up. It is faded (mostly white), funky colored, and hard to see what is going on. Attached is a picture of it. Do you think it is just the LCD? (I can replace that for 70 bucks from blackberry8100parts.com). Or do you think I've killed something else?
Any advice would be fantastic before I waste 70 bucks getting a new LCD.
Thanks,
Alan
I just want to know what kind of clip you had?
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I just want to know what kind of clip you had?
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It was seidio's holster. I really like it but it is def easy to knock the tilt out of it.
If you are willing to open the tilt up to replace a broken LCD then I would go ahead and open it NOW and see if you find other damage. You are looking for anything cracked. There are manuals for the unit in the wiki. If you haven't cracked anything else then your probably ok but the only real test is to buy and LCD and try it out. I assume that slide action of the keyboard tray is as it was before you stepped on it? It it anyway stiff or off? Does it tilt up the same way and with as much ease as before?
Everything seems to slide and tilt up without a problem. There is no looseness, friction, resistance, etc.
I have read through instructions on how to take it apart. Only thing is that I'm going to get a new LCD, I need to use the phone till I get it It is usable, just a bit tricky ;-) I'm a bit nervous taking a part twice. I also don't have the right tools which would come with the LCD.
Guess I'm just going to have to buy the LCD. I can always resell it if need be.
Alan
Maybe try and open it up to see if you have a loose connector because that color thing is weird. Usually you would have a crack on the screen and you would see the crack but instead you seem to be missing some colors which leads me to think that the connector might have become unseated a little.
Any update on this? Something happened to my tilt last night and it's doing the same thing!
Probably just the LCD but it might just be a loose flat multi connector. If there's no warranty then as suggested above you could dismantle just to be sure you do actually need a new LCD. In the worst case scenario you could find that compnents on the d/pad daughter board are damaged. You can only really tell by internal inspection.
Mike
I went ahead and purchased a new LCD from fonlogix figuring I could always keep the LCD as a just in case or even resell it. It was suppose to have come with the t5 torx driver and the case opener but the case opener wasn't in the package. I emailed them and they said they were out and didn't want to hold the shipment. They are suppose to be sending me one though. I would rather not try dismantling without it because I don't want to risk anything (nor do I want to try with my finger nails). I'm hoping to receive the tool very soon so when I do and I get it dismantled, I'll post back.
I think just maybe the ribbon cable that connects the LCD to the mobo has come lose.
I know on my Hermes, this was located under the center buttoin, and when I would press it hard enough it would make a secure connection, and it would display normal color quality, and when I let go it would become like a 2bit color quality
Fixed! I went ahead and replaced the LCD and now it works. I examined all connections as best I could as I went along and didn't find any loose ones so I'm not for sure if it really was a loose connection or a broken LCD. Regardless, I'm not going to take it apart again to find out! I'll keep my old LCD as a backup and if it becomes necessary, test it out
Thanks!
Alan
in the future you could use a program like my mobiler I have attached it to check out your tilt that is what I did when the screen broke you can view your tilt on your pc with out the screen
you should post a video on how easy it is for the tilt to come out of the seidio holster... i was actually thinking about getting it.... but i play a lot of sports so if it would knock out easily then it wouldnt really be good for me.
The problem with the seidio holster is that it is open at the top on the sides. Thus, if you or something hits or puts pressure from the side at the top of the tilt (where the power, ptt, and ok buttons along with the wheel are), it pops out of the case.
Tilt LCD Replacement Video
www.blackberry8100parts.com
now has Tilt LCD Video replacement instructions in High Definition.
check it out
belize2004 said:
www.blackberry8100parts.com
now has Tilt LCD Video replacement instructions in High Definition.
check it out
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Thanks for the link. Did anyone download the plugin? I'm getting tired of all these diffent plugins, they will slow your system down over time.

is this housing a rip-off?

is this housing http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260453968402&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 a FURTHER rip-off in quality as the OEM found here http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-SONY-ERICSS...ries?hash=item2ea6dd8d1e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
i want to buy a new housing but i don't wanna buy one with less quality than the original
what are your thoughts on the pics there?
Judging by the pics both fascias seem identical. Although don't know why this big pricing difference. Maybe the first auction is for a replica housing? Don't have large pics as the second auction so we can tell for sure.
Also, at CNN http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-xperia-c-28_638.html the housings are pricey. For me go for the second auction or buy from CNN, you will be 100% sure that the housing is the OEM.
yeah i was looking at the $24.00 on ebay too... someone should buy it and tell me how it is
i think im gonna let this pass and sell my x1 as it is, im thinking of leaning towards the touch diamond 2 i will miss my keyboard but what the heck
Yo!
I ordered the $24.00 last week... When I receive the housing parts, I will take pictures and spread the message....
Fingers crossed......
Damn the cracks....Its a pity to sacrifice a gd device just now that some gd new things are coming....senseUI....Leo...sure it'll come for d2 too.....but no KeyBoard there.....I have ur very same problem...but I'll try the case !!
Received the housings yesterday.
They're certainly not OEM (maybe the backcover is, the rest not). The outside looks quite nice finished, the set is quite complete (with some tools for the fitting). From the two sets I ordered, one has a large gluestain on the top part of the housing (below the LCD). This gluestain damaged the paint. So I decided to start transferring the phone in the other housing.
After dissecting the phone I started with the assembly of the screen part. The speaker fitted not quite nice, so took some feddling to get mounted. At last it fitted (the print on top of the speaker fitted just). Closing the top part of the housing was a mess. The snap-locks didn't snap (partly) and on one side the housing did not flush fit. The (original) screws did not fit in the thread bushings.... With some fiddling I sort of managed to fit them. Then on with the bottom part. The new chrome buttons do not fit in the new chrome housing part.......
This is were I give up for yesterday. I think I'm going to rebuild the old housing en give up on the new one....
So.....
Decide for yourself if it's worth the trouble.... The housing looks quit neat (not as good as OEM though) but the fitment process is quite troublesome. Delivery was fast and the package is complete (including self-adhesive rubber for screen and speaker fitment). I will get in touch with the guy from Ebay with my findings.... Maybe I'm doing something wrong....
Will post some pictures tomorrow or something....
thnx ur comments were of gr8 benefit to me.....will be gladly w8ing for the pics !
thnx, ur comment were of gr8 benefit to me.....will be gladly w8ing for the pics !
thnx dude, im waiting on mine to be delivered,
looking forward for more reactions...
@Fliptil
From a scale from 0-10, how hard was it to do?
Before starting myself, I want to know if i'm capable of doing this.
To be honest, I know how to fix stuff, but don't know if I can do this trick..
Thanks for sharing anyway
Does anybody know, where i can buy a non branded battery cover for my sliver x1?
It is branded with T-Mobile, but i would like to have it blank or non-branded.
An original one is 25 € in ebay Germany. That's too much. So a cheap one would be fine.
Thanks in advice for all tips!
Best regards
Jog
ebay dude, i purchased one 2 weeks ago for about 10 GBP
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170363212269
OK guys....
I managed to revive the Xperia tonight.... It has become a hybrid with the metal (original) front and black backside. The middle part is also left original. So the only part I ended up exchanging has been the back cover.
First of all; kudo's to HTC for making the Xperia somewhat sturdy (at least the inside is...). The amount of mechanical havoc tha has been put through the innards of the phone are substantial... And still everything functions!!
After the initial assembly attempt a few weeks ago, I was sure that I had wrecked my phone trying to assemble it with the new housing. Some parts did not fit really well, and the (original) screws did not quite fit the (new) threaded bushings. Halfway through the assembly process I ran into the new chrome buttons not fitting in the new chrome middle part and I gave up on assembly for the time being. After recharging myself for a couple of weeks I forced myself to take up the task of finishing the assembly of the phone tonight...
First I had to disassemble the phone (I was halfway assembling it...) again. I decided to use the original front (had some scratch damage and a very small crack) to surpass the not-fitting thread bushings in the new part. This was a problem... One of the screws had settled in the not-fitting thread bushing and decided to not unscrew, but turn the bushing in the plastic instead. After trying careful and not damaging anything for some time I decided it was time for the hobby knife and screwdriver (as crowbar...). The new front cover did not survive this operation. The screw and the innards of the phone did however!! Reassembly using the old front cover was quite easy, as was reassembly of the back using the original middle part. In the new back part was the thread bushing missing for fixation of the speaker... I used the not-fitting bushing from the front cover as bushing for the speaker fixation. Off course after I made the bushing fitting by forcing the screw in the bushing using a sturdy screwdriver and a set of pliers. This bushing was hammered (carefully...) into the location where the bushing should have been.... This sort of worked. The new back cover does not fit as neat into the original middle part as the original back cover, but it did fit (with some force). The plastic lip that fixes the SIM card was a bit to long, so I had to cut of 0,5mm to make it fit the SIM card. And last but not least only one of the two new battery covers was able to get a grip on the phone...
Then came the thrilling moment to switch on the phone.... Everything worked as if nothing had happened!! So end good all good; I have a phone that looks quite neat (part brushed metal - part black) and functions.
If it was worth the hassle... I doubt it... When you've got a phone that is in pieces and you want spare parts to repair it (as cheap as possible and you like some hobbying) then go ahead and buy this housing. If you want a phone that looks as good as new (and you don't want to risk a heart attack or nervous break down) then I guess you're better off leaving this housing as it is.... For a phone that's worth a few hundred bucks I think this housing is not OK. For a scrapheap phone that needs revitalisation for a small amount of money than it's OK.... If I had to do it all again I think I would have gone for an OEM housing.... After all, I'm happy that my phone functions again so I can leave the TYTN at home. I was to stubborn to buy another housing...
This has become quite a story, hope it will be of any help to somebody. Now I must see if I can post some images....
Grreetz,
Ronald
Some pictures.... try if it works....
Hmm i've dropped my poor x1 on the concrete sidewalk as i got out of my car.
Amazingly it must be good quality because there are a only a couple of scratches on the front and some damage on the rubber around where the
stylus is, but otherwise everything works and is functional.
What this experience did, was got me lookin for spare parts in case I'd
ever need them. As a result I ordered from the same person on eBay 2 days ago
and I just now found this post. Needless to say, I'm damn scared that I've
wasted the money. You tried to fit the black parts on a silver X1, and mine is black,
so I'm crossing my fingers that for some unknown odd fantastical reason, it fits better on the black version. Also may ask whether your model is an x1i or x1a?
I'm guessing b/c its silver its an x1i but u can nvr be to sure. As for me, mine is
a black x1a. I'll post back if i have any updates.
Hi Nick.
I've got a X1i, as you had already guessed.... The mixing of the parts is also a bit of a risk.... The chrome middle part (original) has suffered some damages during my disassembly actions to start with... And has developed some new cracks in the use as a hybrid. Maybe I've overtightened some screws, or maybe the bottom part does not fit well enough so it develops to much tension I don't know...
I've decided to use the X1 till it dies, and to buy something else (no slide keyboard) a little bit more sturdy when it does. I am not going to do any repairwork on it. The design is simply flawed, I have had it repaired at SE once, when it came back it was broken again within two months. These stories can be found al over the internet, so I am not going to repair it again (just to get it broken again). I am not careful enough for a phone like this (however, my colleague also has a X1 that's broken and he is very careful...) I guess.
Just my two cents.
thanks fliptil I'll keep those things in mind.
Before i dropped my x1 for the first time. There was some kind of defect in the silver middle part. At first it was a slight crack so i thought nothing of it, until a piece fell right out of it. Until now i've never needed to go through the process
of getting something fixed and was my experience painful. I got mine through a carrier (Rogers) so I called them on the phone. I was on hold forever, and when I finally got through they told me I had to go to a rogers store to have someone
personally take a look at it.
I got to the store, got on their phone, and was on hold for 20 minutes. When I got through they told me they would connect me to a specific department.
Another 20 minute wait.
I got through and then gave the phone to a rogers employee there. He confirmed that it should be a defect as there were no signs of dropping it and then HE waited 20 minutes while the guy on the line called sony.
I waited all that time to find out that I cannot get it replaced through my carrier but had to go through sony themselves.
I looked up some stories of experiences with SE's services and found that most (if not all) of the time they replace your x1 with a refurbished one, and I wasn't about to trade a perfectly brand new one with a minor ding in it, for
one that could be potentially scratched up and badly treated.
Now that I've dropped it though I fear that whether the defect gets worse or not I cannot get Sony's warranty on it. However, after what you've just told me I don't think I want to. Here's to hoping that i won't have to do x1
surgery anytime soon...

[Q] Screen Problem-Anyone Seen This??????

I bought the Pure in November. Since then its been in a case 100% of the time, NO drops, NO water damage. Last week it developed the "spot" shown on the picture. It looks like a thumbprint, almost. Its unlocked, hard spl'ed, and was running a custom ROM but I reflashed to stock ROM in desperation. I am just stumped and more than a little ticked off-I mean I bought it unsubsidized and it crapped out quicker than my husbands $20.00 Nokia. The touchscreen does function normally though. I contacted HTC, who told me to contact AT&T. I'm guess I'm trying to figure out if its worth trying to replace the digitizer or just sell it to gazelle.com for the 50 bucks they offered. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Hello, I've had this problem on my diamond2, I took it to my operator and they program from replacing the front panel, the problem is that the digitizer glued to the screen. Good luck and I hope I have helped!
Thank you, that does help! I'll call AT&T now.
I had the same problem just sent it into ATT to get fixed.
Screen Problem
Unfortunately, I have seen it. I'm seeing it right now- take a look at the attachments.... So this is possibly not the display itself and may be the digitizer fusing somehow with the display, huh?/ Would anyone know where to get the take- apart for this phone??? Actually, what AT&T is calling the Pure is the HTC Warhawk ST6356- I paid cash for mine so I wouldn't have to commit, so sending or calling AT&T probably won't help me....
Hardstarburst said:
Unfortunately, I have seen it. I'm seeing it right now- take a look at the attachments.... So this is possibly not the display itself and may be the digitizer fusing somehow with the display, huh?/ Would anyone know where to get the take- apart for this phone??? Actually, what AT&T is calling the Pure is the HTC Warhawk ST6356- I paid cash for mine so I wouldn't have to commit, so sending or calling AT&T probably won't help me....
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Search for newton rings, you may be able to fix it by applying duct tape and trying to separate the layers.
Otherwise you will find digitizer replacement instructions if you search here.
its same to meee
how to fix it
I had this problem before, after my phone had a 1 feet fall to the ground. Surprisingly, it slowly went away. After a few days, it's totally gone! Lucky me!
Hardstarburst said:
Unfortunately, I have seen it. I'm seeing it right now- take a look at the attachments.... So this is possibly not the display itself and may be the digitizer fusing somehow with the display, huh?/ Would anyone know where to get the take- apart for this phone??? Actually, what AT&T is calling the Pure is the HTC Warhawk ST6356- I paid cash for mine so I wouldn't have to commit, so sending or calling AT&T probably won't help me....
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That's LCD internal bleeding, fixed a few with that issue.
LCD is simple to replace & the digitizer is a little harder as it is bonded to the front casing.
The LCD % digitizer are totally separate & are not bonded as some people suggest.
The Diamond 2 is one of the easiest HTC devices to dismantle which is fortunate as the quality of LCD & digitizers mean you need to dismantle them frequently.
witch1 said:
I bought the Pure in November. Since then its been in a case 100% of the time, NO drops, NO water damage. Last week it developed the "spot" shown on the picture. It looks like a thumbprint, almost. Its unlocked, hard spl'ed, and was running a custom ROM but I reflashed to stock ROM in desperation. I am just stumped and more than a little ticked off-I mean I bought it unsubsidized and it crapped out quicker than my husbands $20.00 Nokia. The touchscreen does function normally though. I contacted HTC, who told me to contact AT&T. I'm guess I'm trying to figure out if its worth trying to replace the digitizer or just sell it to gazelle.com for the 50 bucks they offered. Thanks for any help you can offer.
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this is definitely the digitiser problem. I have the same problem for almost one year, but i manneget to overcome it with the solution i have discribed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5496201&postcount=78
i do not exactly what it is and why does it happening. but you can order a new digitiser from ebay for 5-10 USD and install it by your self, of course if your have applied for waranty repair already and they have refused to you.
Mister B said:
That's LCD internal bleeding, fixed a few with that issue.
LCD is simple to replace & the digitizer is a little harder as it is bonded to the front casing.
The LCD % digitizer are totally separate & are not bonded as some people suggest.
The Diamond 2 is one of the easiest HTC devices to dismantle which is fortunate as the quality of LCD & digitizers mean you need to dismantle them frequently.
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Mister b, did you say you fixed a few of the ATT HTC Pure with this issue?? It seems fairly straightforward to replace, all except for the lower portion of the case. I can take the screws out of the top and I see how it comes apart, but it is still somehow attached at the bottom and I have pulled as hard as I dare. This phone is my "daily driver" I can't destroy it in an attempt to fix it. Any idea where I can get a take-apart manual or vid for the Pure, or do you know how the bottom portion attaches?
Hardstarburst said:
Mister b, did you say you fixed a few of the ATT HTC Pure with this issue?? It seems fairly straightforward to replace, all except for the lower portion of the case. I can take the screws out of the top and I see how it comes apart, but it is still somehow attached at the bottom and I have pulled as hard as I dare. This phone is my "daily driver" I can't destroy it in an attempt to fix it. Any idea where I can get a take-apart manual or vid for the Pure, or do you know how the bottom portion attaches?
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I think on your model mentioned 2 lower screws are hidden under removable trim panel under buttons !
Youtube for a dismantling guide or look in wiki section.

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