2 Questions: Messaging program & MMS w/o data usage? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi, I have searched google and these forums for answers to my questions but could not get a definite answer or solution to my questions.
My first question: What is a good program for internet messaging such as AIM and MSN that uses only text messages rather than data usage? I am not on a data plan but do have unlimited text messages...I would be okay if it used WIFI too....
Second question: I have heard that MMS uses data connection. I have my data disabled but would like to have the option possibly available to me. Is it possible to send/recieve MMS w/o the use of a data plan? Perhaps wifi if possible? or a program that allows the sending of MMS w/o data interference?
Thanks in advance for any help!

it uses data.....i have the unlimited text messaging plan that includes IM's and MMS....its the family plan for 29.99 i believe

yea, I have that plan too, it says mms is included, but you dont think it will use data?
also, no IM clients that are supported purely over SMS?

You can try the OZ Instant Messaging client. From reports it sends over SMS. It has been reported it does use a small amount of data when it signs you in or out of the service but after that its all SMS based.
http://duttythroy.lives-in.eu/
http://xda.scan4.us/Cabs/OZ_Instant_Messanger_at_t_AKU_0.4.4.CAB
http://xda.scan4.us/Cabs/OZ_IM_Today_Plugin.CAB

moto2000 said:
yea, I have that plan too, it says mms is included, but you dont think it will use data?
also, no IM clients that are supported purely over SMS?
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you will not get charged for the data when sending MMS....it will come up as data on your bill but will not get charged for it..so send as many MMS as you want because thats what the plan is for...
as for instant messenger...get the OZ isntant messenger..it comes with the shipped rom (or you can download it like the guy that posted above) and it will use data to log in but you will not get charged for it..and each IM counts as SMS. As long as you have an instant messenger that comes with the original ROM it will count as SMS and will not get charged for any data transfers

PsyOpWarlord said:
You can try the OZ Instant Messaging client. From reports it sends over SMS. It has been reported it does use a small amount of data when it signs you in or out of the service but after that its all SMS based.
http://duttythroy.lives-in.eu/
http://xda.scan4.us/Cabs/OZ_Instant_Messanger_at_t_AKU_0.4.4.CAB
http://xda.scan4.us/Cabs/OZ_IM_Today_Plugin.CAB
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I tried OZ instant messaging and it wouldnt work because it requires data to connect and does not support wifi...
any other known programs to work soloy on SMS and if needed, wifi?

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AT&T Instant Messaging

Does anyone know if the programs in the AT&T Tilt Instant Messaging use SMS? I have no text plan, so I would hat to use it then get a big bill.
do u bother to search? yes it uses txt.
Yes, AT&T took off WindowsLive with their free messenger that uses your unlimited data service and put on there IM client that uses sms so that you have to still pay them for every message sent.
great thanks for letting me know.
CodeSmoke said:
Yes, AT&T took off WindowsLive with their free messenger that uses your unlimited data service and put on there IM client that uses sms so that you have to still pay them for every message sent.
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Those SOBs!
Well, we'll just have to install 3rd party IM apps!!!!...

Iphone gets free SMS via AOL?

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/07/13/1727211.shtml
Anyone know if there's a way for free SMS with our phones?
kireol said:
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/07/13/1727211.shtml
Anyone know if there's a way for free SMS with our phones?
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You can send free SMS by using AOL instant message as long as the receiver has an iphone but you cannot send free SMS to a different phone besides the iphone
It's not free SMS. It's Instant messenger. It uses your data plan.
here's the beta from AOL for WM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402783
CraZyLiLbOy said:
You can send free SMS by using AOL instant message as long as the receiver has an iphone but you cannot send free SMS to a different phone besides the iphone
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Not according to the /. article. You can send to any SMS capable phone. The article clearly states this can go to any phone.
tdusen said:
It's not free SMS. It's Instant messenger. It uses your data plan.
here's the beta from AOL for WM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402783
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It IS sms. it goes through the data plan.
did you guys read the article that I linked?
The receiving phone gets an SMS. The SMS is sent by the AOL servers. Similar to going to the ATT website and sending an SMS. This same method can be used from your desktop AIM client to send an SMS to anyone.
I send SMS through AIM all the time. Just add the number +1 (area code) (7 digits).
does the AOL client for our phones allow us to do this? guess I could install it and find out. just wondering.
kireol said:
It IS sms. it goes through the data plan.
did you guys read the article that I linked?
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I think you are missing the point. If you have an unlimited data plan, at least in the US, you still pay over and above for sending SMS. If this does use data instead of SMS, there is a savings.
This would be awesome if each message wasn't proceeded by "This is an instant message, you can reply to this"
kireol said:
does the AOL client for our phones allow us to do this? guess I could install it and find out. just wondering.
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no you can't
and whats this have to do with the kaiser?
I was wrong, yeah you can send free SMS by using AOL Instant Messenger
Download it here

Possible to "fool" SMS into data?

I know you can do this on the iPhone via AIM, but is it possible to send an SMS as data, so it isn't charged as an actual SMS, but under data (so if you have an unlimited data plan, it's free :-o)
Roflcopterrr said:
I know you can do this on the iPhone via AIM, but is it possible to send an SMS as data, so it isn't charged as an actual SMS, but under data (so if you have an unlimited data plan, it's free :-o)
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ifone has zero to do with sending "text messages" to AIM. If you use the AIM SMS gateway, it's still an SMS to someone, even if you're sending it to someone via AIM. And you can do that on any phone.
Otherwise, no, you cannot send SMS over 'data' and not get charged for it.

Free SMS App?

Is there any app out there that lets you send free sms?
google voice
any others?
SMS is a feature of your cell provider, not the phone, so there is no magical free SMS app.
Google Voice routes incoming text via their own servers, as opposed to your provider's. It then has the option to either forward it to your phone as an actual SMS (in which case you will incur the usual charges) or via the data connection (GPRS/EDGE/3G), in which case it will be "free" since it bypasses providers' networks. However, forwarding is the default behavior unless you turn it off in your account settings at http://voice.google.com.
did you search in the market. i think there may be one ( i know there was one a while back) but how reliable it is, i cannot tell you (unlimited sms)
you could just use aim to send sms for free. as long as you have a data plan.
i know for a fact that there are free sms apps out there. search the market.
Or quit being cheap and get the data plan with unlimited texts.
This is a good question. It's either you being ripped off by the big companies or you being considered "cheap". If you have a data plan (which I'm guessing you do if you have a G1), you could just use email to text people's numbers. Most popular carriers let people receive texts from email, so if my number was (555)555-5555, you can email to [email protected] for verizon, [email protected] for AT&T, [email protected] for T-Mobile, and a few others listed here and at other places on the Internet.
To read more about the ongoing ripoff that is what we know as SMS, read below:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28digi.html?_r=3
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/14/txts_r_v_pricey/
You can also find more info on it by Googling "sms ripoff".
if you use google voice then the first time you text someone your phone will ask you to use messaging or google voice, choose google voice and check the box to make it default. From that point on you will text like normal but everything will go out via google voice. The only downfall is that people have to send texts to your google voice number instead of your phone number and google voice's app sometimes has a couple minute delay on receiving the sms.
supremeteam256 said:
Or quit being cheap and get the data plan with unlimited texts.
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No! I'm sick of bending over to the carriers.
<rant mode>
I refuse to pay their exuberant prices for services that cost them NOTHING. I already pay for data (btw, the US data plans are one of the most expensive in the world), so how is it that different from text? I understand charging extra for MMS since it puts extra load on the network, but friggin' TEXT?!? Come on. The only reason there hasn't been a major public outrage about this ridiculous scam is because the silent majority of texters are teenagers whose phone bills are paid by mommies and daddies.
</rant mode>

Third Party Free SMS Apps?

are there any third party free sms apps?
i know google blocks free sms apps from the market
anyone know if any exist?
Wait, what? Google doesn't block free SMS apps at all. You must be thinking of Apple or something.
Look at ChompSMS (my personal favorite) or HandCentSMS
I don't think its possible. To use SMS you either need a data connection or an actual SMS plan. If you don't have either. How are you going to get the SMS out? If its only on WiFi, you can use meebo or aim and just text their cell number. But its not possible to get SMS for free using cellular signal.
h.nocturna said:
I don't think its possible. To use SMS you either need a data connection or an actual SMS plan. If you don't have either. How are you going to get the SMS out? If its only on WiFi, you can use meebo or aim and just text their cell number. But its not possible to get SMS for free using cellular signal.
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some networks/contracts have unlimited data plans but limit the calls/texts that you can use, im guessing he is after an app which will automatically use a site which provides free texts.
then again, if he wants that there is the option of going to the site through the browser
just get google voice and call it a day give your GV num to people and have them use that as your primary num.
GV app has txt msg in there and its all over data. so technically free (as long as you have an unlimited plan.

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