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Igo8 final review

Nav N Go, the makers of the iGO mapping solution just unveiled iGO8. iGO8 is unique in that it provides not just 2D and tilted 3D maps, but realistic 3D maps with building renderings in select US cities. Of course, not all buildings are rendered, but it looks realistic enough to actually help guide you along the way, especially in busier areas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUzQkR0H2S0&feature=related
Anyone know how to make skins for the igo8 final? or if tmc works with the tilt

If it does run, it will probably run like cr*p in the 3D view w/o the display drivers that the Kaiser lacks. Regular TomTom is bad enough. My old Axim X5 runs it smoother than my Tilt!

Got it running looks nice but struggles like hell on certain parts and when you have loads of buildings showing up its working hard. I still use tomtom still.

i have it.
I have installed I Go on my Kaiser.
Works a treat and looks great. I think it is as fast if not faster than TomTom.
and i love the TEXT TO SPeach when it says the mane of the road, not just turn right. The 3D mountains look great as well.
PS i dont work for I Go either.

welshdragon said:
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and i love the TEXT TO SPeach when it says the mane of the road, not just turn right. The 3D mountains look great as well.
PS i dont work for I Go either.
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The iGo clearly does not come with spell-checker ;-)

iGo8 - 2008
I've just installed iGO 2008 ...
For a couple of reason ... firstly, to watch the 3D buildings everyone is raving about and secondly, to see if it will run on the TytnII (since the official site states it can).
Verdict:
Yes, iGO8 2008 does run on the TytnII and better still ... unlike the previous version, it does not object to HTC Home engaged in the today screen
The initial menu screen is split into four boxes, 'Find', 'Route', 'Manage' an 'Setting', with soft buttons for 'Map/Cockpit screen' and 'Exit'. The navigation screen is also somewhat different, almost like a flight sim cockpit view. The SD card directory structure has the buildings held seperately.
GPS locked on quickly and auto-set to port 4 but with a high baud rate .. this can be changed though, since I found Tomtom wasn't a huge fan of fast baud rate comms to the GPS.
Some nice features like a menu shortcut to add 'speed camera locations with speed limit reference' on the move, and verbally announcing the GPS dis-engaging ... it's early days and I'll feedback any major issues, but if the gossip that Tomtom are going to discontinue the development of Tomtom for the PDA are true, then it looks like iGO will be the way to go.
I've enclosed a link to the manual if anyone wants to look at it [from the official site @ 1.4mb]

ajs007 said:
I've just installed iGO 2008 ...
For a couple of reason ... firstly, to watch the 3D buildings everyone is raving about and secondly, to see if it will run on the TytnII (since the official site states it can).
Verdict:
Yes, iGO8 2008 does run on the TytnII and better still ... unlike the previous version, it does not object to HTC Home engaged in the today screen
The initial menu screen is split into four boxes, 'Find', 'Route', 'Manage' an 'Setting', with soft buttons for 'Map/Cockpit screen' and 'Exit'. The navigation screen is also somewhat different, almost like a flight sim cockpit view. The SD card directory structure has the buildings held seperately.
GPS locked on quickly and auto-set to port 4 but with a high baud rate .. this can be changed though, since I found Tomtom wasn't a huge fan of fast baud rate comms to the GPS.
Some nice features like a menu shortcut to add 'speed camera locations with speed limit reference' on the move, and verbally announcing the GPS dis-engaging ... it's early days and I'll feedback any major issues, but if the gossip that Tomtom are going to discontinue the development of Tomtom for the PDA are true, then it looks like iGO will be the way to go.
I've enclosed a link to the manual if anyone wants to look at it [from the official site @ 1.4mb]
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Thank you for your feedback and I do like igo8 alot better then the old igo. But I wish they will add more building for the usa maps

Hi all,
I made a data.zip for IGO8 which is working with rezolution 240_240 - http://rapidshare.com/files/115724040/data.zip.html
It isn't look like the original ones, but this is just the beginning.
One bug - after pushing the button Set point as a final destination on navigate screen the program shows an FFUI error - press OK button and everything will be OK.
I'm starting to fix size ot some menu bottons and to improve the skin at all.
Everybody who like to help is wellcome.
Enjoy

outlook contacts
when i put mine outlook contacts in mine phone abouth 200 pices i wil get a error when i start igo8 when i remove the contact's from mine phone all works fine
i did try to remove htc home i won't work
when i put mine contacts on to mine sim it works all fine
i have software NoThrills_WM61_NLD_V3 on mine phone
rom version 3.14.172.0.nld
radio version 1.65.14.06
can sombody help please its to strainge
or is there a good software version that wil work dutch software is no pree

As a dedicated Tomtom user I decided to load up IGO8 and have a look to see how it was and so far I am pretty impressed.
It certainly picked up the GPS signal a lot quicker than Tomtom 6.032. It was very accurate and I like the "You are speeding" feature.
So far I have not had Text to speech operate, not sure why, might be the maps here in Australia.
I would like more choice with voices (I tend to like John Cleese in Tomtom).
It is a real memory hog though, I only run a P3600i and when IGO is running I have 3 meg of free operating memory so it really isn't practical for me at the moment. Maybe whn I can get my hands on the HTC Diamond.
I will give more feedback once I have used it a bit more.

Andych said:
... and I like the "You are speeding" feature.
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I forgot to mention in my ealier thread
... I decided to try out the 'practical' side of the iGO and engage the voices whilst being a passenger in my Wifes car on the Motorway (autobaan/freeway)
... My Wife was not a happy bunny to hear a complete stranger out of the PDA telling her she was speeding !!
I'll have to find out if the software has a 'don't p*** your wife off' function ... mine took years to perfect

I too stopped using TomTom in favor or the latest iGO, the speed warnings, the reading of the street names and not just simple "turn left or right", the buildings and ofc, the 3d terrain is what for me played the major part in swapping over, being able to see if I should be going up or down, below or above another road, is really helpful in new places.
iGo runs fine on my kaiser, up to 3-4 building in medium distance works fine, more then that and it begins to struggle, but, since there aren't many spots with buildings displayed where I drive everyday, it doesn't really bother me.
Oh, and for the dude who asked, TMC doesn't obviously work since we got no FM tuner, and there's no TMC over the interweb in iGo from what I can see

error
i have install igo8 and found these issues.
when i exit out of igo it changes my volume to mute.
when i change the time zone it does not save and it changes the time zone on my device.

The timezone issue is known and their site as a really good explanation on how to fix it, all sites should be searched, not just this one
Just add this to your Storage Card\iGO8\Sys.txt
Code:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0

eskostar said:
The timezone issue is known and their site as a really good explanation on how to fix it, all sites should be searched, not just this one
Just add this to your Storage Card\iGO8\Sys.txt
Code:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
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can you link the site so i can go to them
thanks very much

North America
So there are no maps for North America? Is there a demo available ?

Praygo said:
So there are no maps for North America? Is there a demo available ?
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I know that there are version 7 maps for USA available including 3D buildings etc. but not v8 as yet.
I don't think this would be a problem as I've had iGO8 on v7 and v8 of the UK (with buildings) and they both work, so the answer would be yes, but not up to date maps.
Demo - There was a beta version that expired 1st May 2008 or there abouts.
** Note ** USA is available as individual 'States' and not in a single package like Tomtom.

So has anyone been able to get V7 US maps (state-by-state) working on V8 Final or was everyone who's had success with the At&T Tilt (seen a few Tilts in signatures) using the beta version?
ajs007 said:
I know that there are version 7 maps for USA available including 3D buildings etc. but not v8 as yet.
I don't think this would be a problem as I've had iGO8 on v7 and v8 of the UK (with buildings) and they both work, so the answer would be yes, but not up to date maps.
Demo - There was a beta version that expired 1st May 2008 or there abouts.
** Note ** USA is available as individual 'States' and not in a single package like Tomtom.
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I ended up ditching IGO for miomap. Runs faster

I've been using it for a week and a half now and I'm going to say that Igo8 is the best out there. I love it. It works better and faster than tomtom. Also the 3D buildings look fine and perform fine on my phone.

ROM version: 1.93.831.1 WWE

The following ROM has been released on HTC HK site:
hTC Touch Diamond English ROM Code Update (2008/07/23)
ROM version: 1.93.831.1 WWE
ROM date: 07/18/08
Radio Version : 52.29.25.12H_1.00.25.05
* You can check device ROM version from Start -> Setting -> System -> Device Information -> Version.
Description:
1. Enable GSM 850 band.
2. Fixed sometimes no signal issue.
3. Fixed no action while touching navigator control in camera mode.
4. Fixed some files in internal storage which cannot be listed.
5. Fixed SMS sound alert notification delayed issue.
6. Improved audio quality after audio booster is enabled.
7. Improved TouchFLO 3D tab switching and movement speed.
8. Improved home page loading speed.
9. Turned off the 5-second auto screen off function when screen is turned back on by pressing power key during a voice call. Screen off timeout will follow system power setting.
10. Added random access bar to the right hand edge of the screen for selection of weather countries and cities.

where to download it

good question. Im currently on 1.37.707.... so thats a big jump
edit:
this appears to be the HK website but cant find the upgrade
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/Faq_detail.aspx?p_id=133&act=faq&cat=86

Monty Burns said:
good question. Im currently on 1.37.707.... so thats a big jump
edit:
this appears to be the HK website but cant find the upgrade
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/Faq_detail.aspx?p_id=133&act=faq&cat=86
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Need to log in to HTC e-Club..
Sound quality much better now..

I can't see it
I just can't see it - any one fance uploading it?!

the file is more than 100 M and the download speed is terrible or even cannot connect. hope someone can get it....

Totally Agree .
I,ve been waited for almost an hour .
The server is extremely slow .

I can't even find the link after logging into ma account.
Someone.. please
and no rapidshare... 4shared is allright.
Thanks!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720

so no improvements in camera quality and speed???
because i compared the HTC TD camera with the normale touch. and to be honest the normal touch camera is much better and faster, and the image is much more fluid when trying to make a picture. the TD on the other hand trying to make a picture is horrible the image is so slow when you move and try to focus... it's like playing crysis on an old 386 processor

dangerpaki said:
so no improvements in camera quality and speed???
because i compared the HTC TD camera with the normale touch. and to be honest the normal touch camera is much better and faster, and the image is much more fluid when trying to make a picture. the TD on the other hand trying to make a picture is horrible the image is so slow when you move and try to focus... it's like playing crysis on an old 386 processor
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You're forgetting that the TD's screen has FOUR times the resolution of the touch. Obviously it will be a bit slower if it has four times the work to do.

Look In The Correct Forum
http://rapidshare.com/files/13184678...1.93.831.1.exe
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tzpqbz
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CU69CRY
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.part1.rar
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.part2.rar
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.part3.rar

let's move the discussion here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720

So does anyone know if there is a generic release for the UK market ?
My 1.37.405.1 WWE (Stock Orange ROM) is pants and the fixes here look like fixing a few issues I have... lag post using Opera, general randomness and hit and miss nature of tab sliding.
If so... what do I need to install it on my phone ?

joemax said:
If so... what do I need to install it on my phone ?
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And ??? Is there an answer ?

joemax said:
And ??? Is there an answer ?
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Yes you do need to install it ..... and then report back and tell us if the rest of us should do the same

And where do I get it and how (in laymans terms) do I install it with a Mac ?

MINT CONDITION UNLOCKED HTC TyTN II AT&T TILT 8925 (WM6.1) For Sale

Tilt for Sale
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mint-Unlocked-H...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:3|39:1|240:1318
BUILT-IN GPS + US AND CANADA MAPS (TomTom Software)
FREE 4GB MEMORY CARD!
Bluetooth 2.0
3.2MB Camera
WiFi B/G
CONDITION: Excellent, under One Year Old and perfect operational condition. Absolutely No Problems.
I am a IT Professional and not re-seller as the others are. Will customize the phone to your needs and support with
questions even after the purchase! Re-sellers won't assist with the technical in-outs of the phone and what this can
really do like what is the latest rom upgrades, software, applications, and where to find all the free public domain
software.
Reason to Sell: I am upgrading to a newer model phone.
This phone is the Holy Grail of Pocket PCs (PDA).
Features:
Unlocked to work with any GSM carrier without contract - slide your SIM card and you are good to go.
AT&T Rom has been flashed to increase speed, storage, and to remove all the AT&T, M$ bloatware.
With the rom flash, you get 60 more megs than the AT&T stock rom. Roms can be upgraded and customized per request.
I have currently 36 Programs installed on the Tilt and still have 80 megabytes left. With the AT&T
stock rom this wouldn't be a option. At the most, you could get about 15-20 programs before running out
of space.
TomTom the Best GPS software in the market, with US and Canada Maps (no contract or fees to use it - no data connection needed) $150.00 Value
4Gb MicroSD card with adapter
Bluetooth 2.0
Full working MS Office Mobile (Excel, Word, Powerpoint, Outlook, etc.)
3G capable for fast internet surfing
Outstanding Mp3 and Video player
3 Megapixel camera, with GPS tagging, and Video Recording (See the pictures below for examples)
All original accessories and manuals included.
Specs:
Camera Resolution 3 megapixels Zoom, 8X
Live Video Capture and Playback 60 min (CIF, 15fps)
Windows Media Player Mobile 10
Supported Music Formats: MP3 AT&T Mobile Music
Messaging Text Messaging Insert pictures, video clips and sound clips easily
Instant Messaging (IM) AOL®, Yahoo!®, & Windows Live Messenger®
Email Mobile Email AOL, Gmail, Windows Live, Yahoo
BlackBerry Push™ Technology BlackBerry Connect
Xpress Mail - access work and personal email, including Microsoft® Outlook, Lotus® Notes®, Yahoo!
Mail®, AOL®, Windows Live™ and more Microsoft Direct Push Good™ Mobile Messaging
Video & Web Web Browser full HTML - IE, Opera
Productivity
Calendar, Alarm clock, Call waiting, Caller ID, Personal Organizer
Address book, Conference calling, Call Forwarding
Multitasking
Use voice and data simultaneously Extras
3G high-speed data and voice
World phone
Bluetooth® 2.0 wireless connectivity
USB connectivity + USB Cable Included
Hands-free speakerphone
Push to Talk
Voice dialing and voice commands
Battery
Capacity 1350 mAH
Talk Time Up to 4 hours
Standby Time Up to 8 days
Dimensions
Weight 6.0 ounces
Size (inches) 4.4 x 2.3 x 0.73 inches
Memory
Internal Memory Storage 256 MB
Expandable Memory Storage 32 GB
Memory Format Card microSD(TM)
Wireless Technology
WIFI B+G 10/54MB
Display
Display Size 2.8 inches
Resolution (pixels) 240 x 320
Colors 64K
Keyboard
Pull out QWERTY keyboard that the display tilts upright
Here is the direct link to AT&T "TILT" phone for more information and Demo:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...etails/?device=AT&T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009
BOTTOM LINE:
There's nothing that you can not do with this phone. Totally and Fully customizable. If you want to make it look like
the iPhone, HTC Touch Diamond, WIndows Vista OS - there are no limits!
Tvos

good luck getting $350 you8r best bet is $300 i got mine for $350 when it first came out and have had it on craigslist for $300 for a few months and gotten no emails and mines in mint, unlocked and can be customized

i listed it as $350.00 on ebay but best offer as well.. if I get $300. I be happy..
i am focused on getting The Fuze (Diamond Touch)...
tvos

oh i didnt see the best offer thing..

so far I got one person close to the offer I am requesting..
tvos

phone sold for $300.00 on EBAY...
goodbye Tilt and Hello HTC AT&T Fuze...
tvos

Buying this phone soon; three questions

In order of importance;
1) Landscape keyboard. Which applications DOES NOT have landscape keyboard? Here are ones I would like to use the Landscape keyboard with, can somebody confirm them all?
a. HTC's SMS threading, b. Windows Live Messenger, c. Windows Live Mail/Hotmail, d. Microsoft Word, e. Calendar (date input), f. Notes app
2) I'm aware that the Touch Diamond 2 doesn't have 3g network in the US/canada. I'm not very familiar with the data connection and stuff, but is there EDGE at least?
3) TouchFlo3D/Manilla 2.5 - the new one with color tabs. Is it out? If i download Windows mobile 6.5 (officially, since TD2 is eligible for the update), will I get it? If not, how do i install the new TouchFlo3D?
Thanks to whoever can answer all my questions.

1) AFAIK all the apps you have mentioned are capable of using landscape keyboard.
2) Yes, EDGE at least.
3) Official upgrade comes with Manila 2.1, some of cooked ROMs out there come with Sense. Generally, it is possible to get Sense on Topaz.

i'm not sure about the calendar app...nvm, i just checked. it works in all of those (although i don't use live messenger...load of ****.
great phone to buy! (although i'd still rather have an HD2 lol)

zimmicz, thanks so much! big help
2) I know 3G is much faster then EDGE. But are there any benefits EDGE has over 3G? such as taking less battery power, stuff like that.
Drag-On, thanks too But can anyone confirm 100% if landscape keyboard works on Windows live messenger? It really is part of a deciding factor for me.
Also,
4) Which application lets you put tasks/to do?? I know the calendar lets you set appointments and it shows up in the homescreen tab, but where do we put tasks? I'm not very familiar with Windows Mobile (yet)

pk, just tested that live messenger crap for you. it works 100% in landscape mode (i use manual landscape mode, not the accelerometer sensing one...it's quicker and i don't accidentally tilt the phone)
4) Tasks are handled by the standard WM Tasks application. HTC assumes you can make do with the calendar and appointments (they're right, it's no real difference to tasks...imo)
ok, i've just tested the tasks thing (it's actually ok. also, the keyboard works 100%)
no reason not to go ahead and buy the phone then

I use EDGE almost all the time, 3G is just a battery killer, but very fast

I must say, the phone is capable of windows live messenger / word / notes, but if you want to type in landscape, the keyboard takes over 95% of your screen and you wont be able to see what your typing.. very annoying

Drag-On, Thanks so much
and to everyone else too!
Can anybody post a screenshot of the screen with both portrait and landscape keyboards? would be a big help !
also.. i will be getting this phone in about a week or two.. i CANT wait

I didn't take this picture, but here's how it should look
http://htc-phones.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/htc-touch-diamond2-keyboard-software.gif
Mine looks a tiny bit different, maybe because I have a custom ROM

Does the TD2 come with north american adapter/charger?
Does the touch diamond 2 (ones imported from europe/or bought online in their original boxes) come with the North american outlet charger?

arikado said:
Does the touch diamond 2 (ones imported from europe/or bought online in their original boxes) come with the North american outlet charger?
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probably not, however the standard charger is quite clever in the sense that you can keep the main body of the charger, but swap the type of plug.
have a look here (http://www.expansys.de/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179244)
(first picture i found) and you will notice that there are other "fittings" available.
my box only came with the standard EU (German) charger, but i'm sure ebay or the likes will have the individual fittings.

Sorry, I wrote my post on wrong one.

[Q] Installation of WP8 in Other Devices

Guys ...
I'm new here and I want to know if anyone can install the WP8 in Smartphone replica produced in China. As an example I speak of H80W, replica BB Z10
Hardware // Software H80W
Type: 3G Smart Phone
Operating System: Google Android 4.2
Sim Card: Dual SIM Card Dual Standby
Service Provide: Unlocked
Form Factor: Bar Phone
Keyboard: Touch Screen
CPU Type: Dual Core
Processor: MTK6572M, 1.2GHz
Memory / RAM: 256MB
Flash Memory / ROM: 256MB
External Memory: Micro TF card slot, support max up to 32GB
Display Size: 4 inch
Display Type: Multi-touch capacitive screen
Resolution: 480 x 320 pixels resolution
Touch Control: Full size touch operation
Network: 2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Wi-Fi: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n network supported
Camera: Dual cameras, front camera 0.3MP, rear camera 2.0MP
Button: home, return, menu, power, vol +/-
Input / Output: 1 x TF card slot
1 x USB port
2 x SIM Card port
1 x 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
1 x Built-in speaker
1 x Built-in microphone
Video Format: 3GP/MPEG4
Audio Format : MP3/WAV/AMR/AWB
Image Format: JPEG/BMP/GIF/PNG
Languages: English, Russian, Spanish, Italian, Afrikaans, Malay, Indonesian, Catalonian, Czech, French, Croatian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Hungarian, Dutch, Norwegian, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Finnish, Swedish, Swahili, Vietnamese, Turkish, Zulu, Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian, Ukrainian, Arabic, Persian, Hindi, Thai, Korean, Chinese, Filipino
Battery & Power: 2200mAh Lithium battery
Power Supply: 100~240V max
Dimension: 13.05cm x 6.6cm x 0.93cm - 5.14inch x 2.6inch x 0.37inch

No.

But if it was WP 7.8 thinks could? I ask this because they installed the WP 7.8 and Windows RT on HTC HD2

andrewsmiguel said:
But if it was WP 7.8 thinks could? I ask this because they installed the WP 7.8 and Windows RT on HTC HD2
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The HD2 is mostly compliant with WP7 specifications - your phone isn't. Simple as that.

DaviUnic said:
The HD2 is mostly compliant with WP7 specifications - your phone isn't. Simple as that.
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Thanks!

Yow those are ****ty specs (display and storage, mostly). 256MB RAM is barely enough for WP7 and won't run WP8, and 480x320 is well below the minimum resolution for either (which is 800x480). You won't be able to *install* either one into just 256MB, though; that's your real problem (how bloody cheap can you get? I didn't know people even still *made* NAND chips that small!)

snescho accordance
GoodDayToDie said:
Yow those are ****ty specs (display and storage, mostly). 256MB RAM is barely enough for WP7 and won't run WP8, and 480x320 is well below the minimum resolution for either (which is 800x480). You won't be able to *install* either one into just 256MB, though; that's your real problem (how bloody cheap can you get? I didn't know people even still *made* NAND chips that small!)
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the device in question was only an example, but there are devices with quad-core processor 1 GB RAM ... I just want to know if it is possible, because if you want a help to make is this device installation dual SIM and can even contribute financially to those who help me

I don't think the current version of WP8 even supports dual-SIM; that's coming in the next update.
Seriously though, we barely even have custom ROMs for devices that are actually meant to run WP8 and have all the drivers. You're asking for support of completely unknown knockoffs? Good luck with that...

Indeed, porting WP8 is a lot harder than WP7, due to UEFI n' stuff...