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Microsoft to free up its software codes
BY RICHARD J. DALTON JR | [email protected]
February 22, 2008
Local software developers can more easily develop products that work with Vista, Office and other Microsoft products now that the software giant will release free documentation for developers, executives said.
Microsoft, which previously released such information only under a trade-secret agreement, charging licensing fees and royalties, said yesterday it would release the information free online.
The change comes a month after the European Union launched an antitrust investigation on suspicions Microsoft blocked developers of competing software from gaining access to its products.
The European Union expressed skepticism at Microsoft's shift, saying the "announcement follows at least four similar statements by Microsoft in the past on the importance of interoperability."
Microsoft also has been forced to open its software because of the growing open-source movement, which makes software code freely available so others easily can integrate applications with it.
Microsoft said it would immediately release 30,000 pages of documents on Windows software that runs PCs and centralized computer servers, followed by similar information on Office 2007.
Dan Galvez, managing partner of Hedgehog Development Llc, a software and technology consulting company in Holbrook, said the release is "a huge benefit."
Hedgehog recently created customized software to allow an international bank based in Manhattan to manage and share research documents using Microsoft Office.
"We weren't able to take advantage fully of Word," Galvez said. "We had to build our own functionality."
But with Microsoft's documentation, Hedgehog would have been able to use built-in tools from Microsoft Office to design the software for the bank, speeding up the development time, Galvez said.
It's like seeing "the secret recipe of grandma's homemade sauce," said Bob Venero, president and chief executive of software developer Future Tech Enterprise Inc., based in Holbrook. "They're giving those ingredients that help make Microsoft what it is." Recently, Future Tech installed software that allows health-care personnel to instantly view X-rays on PCs. But the software remains separate from Office.
With the upcoming release of the Office documentation, Future Tech would be able to seamlessly integrate the software with Office, making it easier to e-mail the X-rays via Outlook software or place it in a Word document.
"I call it 'open-source day,'" Venero said of yesterday's announcement. "I think it's a huge deal."
Newsday. 22 February 2008. Microsoft to free up its software codes . 22 February 2008 <http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/friday/business/ny-bzleft5586831feb22,0,4125204.story>.

and this means what???

It has to refer to the API's, which have always been closed

OMG!!! the end of the world is near.

Sweet! Lots in internal Windows APIs have already been discovered & documented by others like Russinovich in his famed Windows Internals books, but as far as I know no one has done the same for Office. Be a huge boon for me developing document processing software.

The European Union expressed skepticism at Microsoft's shift, saying the "announcement follows at least four similar statements by Microsoft in the past on the importance of interoperability."
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man,
this dude seriously wanted to reply to some peeps. I couldn't read that whole post if I tried, I got about 10% of the way maybe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9877727&postcount=425
Wow... That is long
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Does anybody else just had a case of long post phobia?
more than long...that's what I call multi quoting
nrfitchett4 said:
once again, you have to search for an update instead of it being sent to you to install. How many regular folks go looking for tech updates for their devices?
I think you said it better than I could...
I hope your apps are better than your spelling....
1. As already told to you, yes there is 3d gaming. There is also already quite a lot of good games on wp7. The only game I ever played on android when playing with it on my hd7 was angry birds. Even engadget which is all ios and android love these days admits that android has the worst gaming experience
2. Where is this long list of bugs. For a first release of a mobile OS, I would say they did quite well. Marketplace is about the only constant bug I read about.
3. The point of working out of the box, means, I don't have to hack/root/unlock my phone to make it work as smooth as the iphone. They set the standard for how a phone should work. Smooth as silk, with misleading load screens that take your mind off the fact it takes time for apps to open. A stock winmo phone has never been smooth. Some android phones are smooth out of the box, quite a few aren't. I was shocked that there are lag problems on the vibrant. To get it to work as a 1ghz phone should work, you have to root and install a lag fix.
How many times a day does your phone freeze, or lag? I have only reset my phone 3 times in over a month, all due to marketplace crashes. And it boots in under 30 seconds. Winmo can't do that.
I agree. I didn't get into this community because I wanted to at first. It was because I had to. To make my moto q9c, or my tp2, or my hd2 run decently, I had to come here and ppcgeeks, and spend hours reading threads, just to make my phone not embarrass me in the iphone crowd. Nothing better than trying to show off something as well made as the weatherpanel program for the hd2 and have your phone lock up for you, then take over a minute to reset, requiring you to take off the back cover.
I appreciate everything I have learned on here, but I won't miss having to tweak my phone to make it work.
Those of us who paid attention, knew it wasn't going to be like winmo. That old system functionality included way too many problems which is why MS had to start over.
Name one game besides angry birds that is better than a wp7 game...
You really don't get it. The majority of users:
1. Don't need access to files on their phones. As long as a program that needs the file can find it, then so be it. I don't care where wp7 puts that file. How many times have you needed a file on your computer, but didn't know where it got saved and had to search for it??? If I need to carry files, I have 3 or 4 usb sticks laying around.
2. I think you are the only person on this 40 page thread that says android has a faster UI than wp7.
3. Just because you think something is basic functionality doesn't make it so.
Most people don't care about file explorer, or total multi tasking, or using your phone as a mass storage device, or tethering.
They care about streaming music (zune), facebook (people tab gives you all updates in one spot), twitter (beezz is quickly becoming my favorite app), streaming videos (zune auto converts that for you), games (xbox live is kinda gimmicky right now, but the games are better then what I had on winmo and what android offers), texting (all phones do this, wp7 does this without lag, you know, the opposite of winmo), taking pics (auto saves them to skydrive, 2 presses of the screen to upload to facebook, email, text them).
1. Since I'm not tweaking my phone, I don't need 90% of the files I needed on my hd2.
2. Haven't had a problem downloading files, pressing on the file gives me the option to save.
3. If the app needs to access the file, it will be able to. Can you give an example of what you are even talking about?
4. And isn't that coming soon? I think you have a better argument with flash support, but oh wait, most android devices still don't have 2.2.
5. It's called zune, does the same thing.
6. What do you mean? If I'm typing something in office, leave and come back, it's still right there where I left it.
7. Can't argue that, though do I really need 15 apps open in the background? How's the battery life on android???
8. Didn't IOS just add that? Didn't hurt their sales the last 4 years.
Exactly. Flashing my wife's and son's hd2's, I noticed just how much lag there really is on winmo, even with a great custom ROM. There's a reason that spb MS is so successful and why MS 5.0 is also going to be on android. Out of necessity.
Really? I don't even have to ever connect my phone to my pc except:
1. First time it syncs with zune
2. Any updates to the OS from MS
All other syncing can be done over wifi and it will automatically happen.
I'm guessing you had to root and install the lag fix on your vibrant???
Umm, T-mobile offered all phones for a penny on father's day, android included. Carriers only care about getting you under contract with big data plan prices. That is where they make their money.
1. You are a 62 year old man with dexter's laboratory as your avatar? Kinda creepy
2. If that full range of functionality on winmo was such a selling point, why is MS bleeding market share???
What you need to understand is that the buyer's of today and tomorrow are teenagers who want multimedia, games, texting, and social networking on their phones. They are the driving market, not 62 year olds. Most 62 year olds have flip phones if they have phones at all, or they have iphones because their kids bought them for them.
MS said from the get go that entertainment aspects of the OS would be the primary goal at launch with business aspects being improved upon within the first year. So far they are doing just that.
Ok, so using your analogy, since wp7 is just then next version, then at least most of my 6.5 programs should work on wp7. Oh wait, they don't, because most of the new programs are written in a different programming language.
Apps I use everyday:
1. Beezz for twitter
2. Yomomedia for RSS feeds
3. Netflix
4. Zune
5. Games
6. weatherbug
7. youtube
8. office
9. flixster
that is pretty much my home screen.
The biggest problem with the kin is that verizon attached a smartphone data plan (30 bucks a month) on a glorified feature phone. That doomed it from the start. But that doesn't mean it didn't have some good ideas with its picture capabilities and social apps.
You need to root it and install the lag fix, that should fix a lot of the problems.
I'm hoping the back of my hd7 doesn't break. I am not thrilled that is plastic, though I haven't had to take it off yet to reset the phone either so that is a big plus of wp7.
You are the first person to ever called stock winmo stable....
Does WebOS even support sd cards? Probably not if none of the phones have them.
and to stop freezing, and stop lagging.
First time I've laughed at something in this thread.
This does bother me. Give me the option to buy an ad free version. Even some of the .99 apps I have bought have ads in them....
Doesn't bother me. The phone is working great. They are promising more 3rd party multitasking ability for the feb. update and that is the only thing I want. I want my twitter app to stay open when I click a url.
A lot of the problems with apps not opening where you left off is developer born. They have the ability to add tombstoning options to their apps but alot of apps don't take advantage of this.
I knew this phone wasn't going to be perfect out of the box. I wanted to be on at the ground floor and see where it went. So far, I am very happy with it.
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orangekid said:
man,
this dude seriously wanted to reply to some peeps. I couldn't read that whole post if I tried, I got about 10% of the way maybe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9877727&postcount=425
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MacaronyMax said:
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husam666 said:
Does anybody else just had a case of long post phobia?
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still me
Mr. Clown said:
more than long...that's what I call multi quoting
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The name Wikipedia was coined by Larry Sanger[11] and is a portmanteau from wiki (a technology for creating collaborative websites, from the Hawaiian word wiki, meaning "quick") and encyclopedia.
Although the policies of Wikipedia strongly espouse verifiability and a neutral point of view, critics of Wikipedia accuse it of systemic bias and inconsistencies (including undue weight given to popular culture),[12] and allege that it favors consensus over credentials in its editorial processes.[13] Its reliability and accuracy are also targeted.[14] Other criticisms center on its susceptibility to vandalism and the addition of spurious or unverified information,[15] though scholarly work suggests that vandalism is generally short-lived,[16][17] and an investigation in Nature found that the science articles they compared came close to the level of accuracy of Encyclopædia Britannica and had a similar rate of "serious errors".[18]
Wikipedia's departure from the expert-driven style of the encyclopedia building mode and the large presence of unacademic content have been noted several times. When Time magazine recognized You as its Person of the Year for 2006, acknowledging the accelerating success of online collaboration and interaction by millions of users around the world, it cited Wikipedia as one of several examples of Web 2.0 services, along with YouTube, MySpace, and Facebook.[19] Some noted the importance of Wikipedia not only as an encyclopedic reference but also as a frequently updated news resource because of how quickly articles about recent events appear.[20][21] Students have been assigned to write Wikipedia articles as an exercise in clearly and succinctly explaining difficult concepts to an uninitiated audience.[22]
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History
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Wikipedia originally developed from another encyclopedia project, Nupedia.
Wikipedia began as a complementary project for Nupedia, a free online English-language encyclopedia project whose articles were written by experts and reviewed under a formal process. Nupedia was founded on March 9, 2000, under the ownership of Bomis, Inc, a web portal company. Its main figures were Jimmy Wales, Bomis CEO, and Larry Sanger, editor-in-chief for Nupedia and later Wikipedia. Nupedia was licensed initially under its own Nupedia Open Content License, switching to the GNU Free Documentation License before Wikipedia's founding at the urging of Richard Stallman.[23]
Main Page of the English Wikipedia on October 20, 2010.
Larry Sanger and Jimmy Wales founded Wikipedia.[24][25] While Wales is credited with defining the goal of making a publicly editable encyclopedia,[26][27] Sanger is usually credited with the strategy of using a wiki to reach that goal.[28] On January 10, 2001, Larry Sanger proposed on the Nupedia mailing list to create a wiki as a "feeder" project for Nupedia.[29] Wikipedia was formally launched on January 15, 2001, as a single English-language edition at www.wikipedia.com,[30] and announced by Sanger on the Nupedia mailing list.[26] Wikipedia's policy of "neutral point-of-view"[31] was codified in its initial months, and was similar to Nupedia's earlier "nonbiased" policy. Otherwise, there were relatively few rules initially and Wikipedia operated independently of Nupedia.[26]
Graph of the article count for the English Wikipedia, from January 10, 2001, to September 9, 2007 (the date of the two-millionth article).
Wikipedia gained early contributors from Nupedia, Slashdot postings, and web search engine indexing. It grew to approximately 20,000 articles and 18 language editions by the end of 2001. By late 2002, it had reached 26 language editions, 46 by the end of 2003, and 161 by the final days of 2004.[32] Nupedia and Wikipedia coexisted until the former's servers were taken down permanently in 2003, and its text was incorporated into Wikipedia. English Wikipedia passed the two million-article mark on September 9, 2007, making it the largest encyclopedia ever assembled, eclipsing even the Yongle Encyclopedia (1407), which had held the record for exactly 600 years.[33]
Citing fears of commercial advertising and lack of control in a perceived English-centric Wikipedia, users of the Spanish Wikipedia forked from Wikipedia to create the Enciclopedia Libre in February 2002.[34] Later that year, Wales announced that Wikipedia would not display advertisements, and its website was moved to wikipedia.org.[35] Various other wiki-encyclopedia projects have been started, largely under a different philosophy from the open and NPOV editorial model of Wikipedia. Wikinfo does not require a neutral point of view and allows original research. New Wikipedia-inspired projects – such as Citizendium, Scholarpedia, Conservapedia, and Google's Knol where the articles are a little more essayistic[36] – have been started to address perceived limitations of Wikipedia, such as its policies on peer review, original research, and commercial advertising.
Number of articles in the English Wikipedia plotted against Gompertz function tending to 4.4 million articles.
Though the English Wikipedia reached three million articles in August 2009, the growth of the edition, in terms of the numbers of articles and of contributors, appeared to have flattened off around early 2007.[37] In July 2007, about 2,200 articles were added daily to the encyclopedia; as of August 2009, that average is 1,300. A team led by Ed H. Chi at the Palo Alto Research Center speculated that this is due to the increasing exclusiveness of the project.[38] New or occasional editors have significantly higher rates of their edits reverted (removed) than an elite group of regular editors, colloquially known as the "cabal." This could make it more difficult for the project to recruit and retain new contributors, over the long term resulting in stagnation in article creation. Others simply point out that the low-hanging fruit, the obvious articles like China, already exist, and believe that the growth is flattening naturally.[39][40]
In November 2009, a Ph.D thesis written by Felipe Ortega, a researcher at the Rey Juan Carlos University in Madrid, found that the English Wikipedia had lost 49,000 editors during the first three months of 2009; in comparison, the project lost only 4,900 editors during the same period in 2008.[41][42] The Wall Street Journal reported that "unprecedented numbers of the millions of online volunteers who write, edit and police [Wikipedia] are quitting." The array of rules applied to editing and disputes related to such content are among the reasons for this trend that are cited in the article.[43] These claims were disputed by Jimmy Wales, who denied the decline and questioned the methodology of the study.[44]
Nature of Wikipedia
See also: Reliability of Wikipedia, Criticism of Wikipedia, and Academic studies about Wikipedia
Editing model
See also: Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Template messages
In April 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation conducted a Wikipedia usability study, questioning users about the editing mechanism.[45]
In departure from the style of traditional encyclopedias, Wikipedia employs an open, "wiki" editing model. Except for a few particularly vandalism-prone pages, every article may be edited anonymously or with a user account, while only registered users may create a new article (only in the English edition). No article is owned by its creator or any other editor, or is vetted by any recognized authority; rather, the articles are agreed on by consensus.[46]
Most importantly, when changes to an article are made, they become available immediately before undergoing any review, no matter if they contain an error, are somehow misguided, or even patent nonsense. The German and the Hungarian editions of Wikipedia are exceptions to this rule: the German Wikipedia has been testing a system of maintaining "stable versions" of articles,[47] to allow a reader to see versions of articles that have passed certain reviews. The English edition of Wikipedia plans to trial a related approach.[48][49] In June 2010, it was announced that the English Wikipedia would remove strict editing restrictions from "controversial" or vandalism-prone articles (such as George W. Bush, David Cameron or homework). In place of an editing prohibition for new or unregistered users, there would be a "new system, called 'pending changes'" which, Jimmy Wales told the BBC, would enable the English Wikipedia "to open up articles for general editing that have been protected or semi-protected for years." The "pending changes" system was introduced on June 15, shortly after 11pm GMT. Edits to specified articles are now "subject to review from an established Wikipedia editor before publication." Wales opted against the German Wikipedia model of requiring editor review before edits to any article, describing it as "neither necessary nor desirable." He added that the administrators of the German Wikipedia were "going to be closely watching the English system, and I'm sure they'll at least consider switching if the results are good."[50]
Editors keep track of changes to articles by checking the difference between two revisions of a page, displayed here in red.
Contributors, registered or not, can take advantage of features available in the software that powers Wikipedia. The "History" page attached to each article records every single past revision of the article, though a revision with libelous content, criminal threats or copyright infringements may be removed afterwards.[51][52] This feature makes it easy to compare old and new versions, undo changes that an editor considers undesirable, or restore lost content. The "Discussion" pages associated with each article are used to coordinate work among multiple editors.[53] Regular contributors often maintain a "watchlist" of articles of interest to them, so that they can easily keep tabs on all recent changes to those articles. Computer programs called Internet bots have been used widely to remove vandalism as soon as it was made,[17] to correct common misspellings and stylistic issues, or to start articles such as geography entries in a standard format from statistical data.
The editing interface of Wikipedia.
Articles in Wikipedia are organized roughly in three ways according to: development status, subject matter and the access level required for editing. The most developed state of articles is called "featured article" status: articles labeled as such are the ones that will be featured in the main page of Wikipedia.[54][55] Researcher Giacomo Poderi found that articles tend to reach the FA status via intensive works of few editors. In 2007, in preparation for producing a print version, the English-language Wikipedia introduced an assessment scale against which the quality of articles is judged.[56]
A WikiProject is a place for a group of editors to coordinate work on a specific topic. The discussion pages attached to a project are often used to coordinate changes that take place across articles. Wikipedia also maintains a style guide called the Manual of Style or MoS for short, which stipulates, for example, that, in the first sentence of any given article, the title of the article and any alternate titles should appear in bold.
Rules and laws governing content
For legal reasons, content in Wikipedia is subject to the laws (in particular copyright law) of Florida, where Wikipedia servers are hosted. Beyond that, the Wikipedian editorial principles are embodied in the "five pillars", and numerous policies and guidelines are intended to shape the content appropriately. Even these rules are stored in wiki form, and Wikipedia editors as a community write and revise those policies and guidelines[57] and enforce them by deleting, annotating with tags, or modifying article materials failing to meet them. The rules on the non English editions of the Wikipedia branched off a translation of the rules on the English Wikipedia and have since diverged to some extent. While they still show broad-brush similarities, they differ in many details.
According to the rules on the English Wikipedia, each entry in Wikipedia to be worthy of inclusion must be about a topic that is encyclopedic and is not a dictionary entry or dictionary-like.[58] A topic should also meet Wikipedia's standards of "notability",[59] which usually means that it must have received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources such as mainstream media or major academic journals that are independent of the subject of the topic. Further, Wikipedia must expose knowledge that is already established and recognized.[60] In other words, it must not present, for instance, new information or original works. A claim that is likely to be challenged requires a reference to a reliable source. Among Wikipedia editors, this is often phrased as "verifiability, not truth" to express the idea that the readers, not the encyclopedia, are ultimately responsible for checking the truthfulness of the articles and making their own interpretations.[61] Finally, Wikipedia must not take a side.[62] All opinions and viewpoints, if attributable to external sources, must enjoy appropriate share of coverage within an article.[63] This is known as neutral point of view, or NPOV.
Wikipedia has many methods of settling disputes. A "bold, revert, discuss" cycle sometimes occurs, in which a user makes an edit, another user reverts it, and the matter is discussed on the appropriate talk page. In order to gain a broader community consensus, issues can be raised at the Village Pump, or a Request for Comment can be made soliciting other users' input. "Wikiquette Alerts" is a non-binding noticeboard where users can report impolite, uncivil, or other difficult communications with other editors.
Specialized forums exist for centralizing discussion on specific decisions, such as whether or not an article should be deleted. Mediation is sometimes used, although it has been deemed by some Wikipedians to be unhelpful for resolving particularly contentious disputes. The Wikipedia Arbitration Committee settles disputes when other methods fail. The ArbCom generally does not rule on the factual correctness of article content, although it sometimes enforces the "Neutral Point of View" policy. Statistical analyses suggest that Wikipedia's dispute resolution ignores the content of user disputes and focuses on user conduct instead, functioning not so much to resolve disputes and make peace between conflicting users, but to weed out problematic users while weeding potentially productive users back in to participate. Its remedies include banning users from Wikipedia (used in 15.7% of cases), subject matter remedies (23.4%), article bans (43.3%) and cautions and probations (63.2%). Total bans from Wikipedia are largely limited to instances of impersonation and anti-social behavior. Warnings tend to be issued for editing conduct and conduct that is anti-consensus, rather than anti-social.[64]
Content licensing
All text in Wikipedia was covered by GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), a copyleft license permitting the redistribution, creation of derivative works, and commercial use of content while authors retain copyright of their work,[65] up until June 2009, when the site switched to Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC-by-SA) 3.0.[66] Wikipedia had been working on the switch to Creative Commons licenses because the GFDL, initially designed for software manuals, is not suitable for online reference works and because the two licenses were incompatible.[67] In response to the Wikimedia Foundation's request, in November 2008, the Free Software Foundation (FSF) released a new version of GFDL designed specifically to allow Wikipedia to relicense its content to CC-BY-SA by August 1, 2009. Wikipedia and its sister projects held a community-wide referendum to decide whether or not to make the license switch.[68] The referendum took place from April 9 to 30.[69] The results were 75.8% "Yes," 10.5% "No," and 13.7% "No opinion."[70] In consequence of the referendum, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees voted to change to the Creative Commons license, effective June 15, 2009.[70] The position that Wikipedia is merely a hosting service has been successfully used as a defense in court.[71][72]
The handling of media files (e.g., image files) varies across language editions. Some language editions, such as the English Wikipedia, include non-free image files under fair use doctrine, while the others have opted not to. This is in part because of the difference in copyright laws between countries; for example, the notion of fair use does not exist in Japanese copyright law. Media files covered by free content licenses (e.g., Creative Commons' cc-by-sa) are shared across language editions via Wikimedia Commons repository, a project operated by the Wikimedia Foundation.
Reusing Wikipedia's content
Because Wikipedia content is distributed under an open license, anyone can re-distribute it at no charge. The content of Wikipedia has been published in many forms, both online and offline, outside of the Wikipedia website.
Thousands of "mirror sites" exist that republish content from Wikipedia; two prominent ones, that also include content from other reference sources, are Reference.com and Answers.com. Another example is Wapedia, which began to display Wikipedia content in a mobile-device-friendly format before Wikipedia itself did.
Some web search engines also display content from Wikipedia on search results: examples include Bing.com (via technology gained from Powerset)[73] and Duck Duck Go.
Some wikis, most notably Enciclopedia Libre and Citizendium, began as forks of Wikipedia content.
The website DBpedia, begun in 2007, is a project that extracts data from the infoboxes and category declarations of the English-language Wikipedia and makes it available in a queriable semantic format, RDF. The possibility has also been raised to have Wikipedia export its data directly in a semantic format, possibly by using the Semantic MediaWiki extension. Such an export of data could also help Wikipedia reuse its own data, both between articles on the same language Wikipedia and between different language Wikipedias.[74]
Collections of Wikipedia articles have also been published on optical disks. An English version, 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection, contained about 2,000 articles.[75][76] The Polish-language version contains nearly 240,000 articles.[77] There are also German-language versions.[78]
"Wikipedia for Schools", the Wikipedia series of CDs/DVDs, produced by Wikipedians and SOS Children, is a free, hand-checked, non-commercial selection from Wikipedia targeted around the UK National Curriculum and intended to be useful for much of the English-speaking world.[79] The project is available online; an equivalent print encyclopedia would require roughly 20 volumes.
There has also been an attempt to put a select subset of Wikipedia's articles into printed book form.[80][81]
Defenses against undesirable edits
The open nature of the editing model has been central to most criticism of Wikipedia. For example, a reader of an article cannot be certain that it has not been compromised by the insertion of false information or the removal of essential information. Former Encyclopædia Britannica editor-in-chief Robert McHenry once described this by saying:[82]
The user who visits Wikipedia to learn about some subject, to confirm some matter of fact, is rather in the position of a visitor to a public restroom. It may be obviously dirty, so that he knows to exercise great care, or it may seem fairly clean, so that he may be lulled into a false sense of security. What he certainly does not know is who has used the facilities before him. Wikipedia [is a] faith-based encyclopedia.[83]
John Seigenthaler has described Wikipedia as "a flawed and irresponsible research tool."[84]
Obvious vandalism is easy to remove from wiki articles, since the previous versions of each article are kept. In practice, the median time to detect and fix vandalisms is very low, usually a few minutes,[16][17] but in one particularly well-publicized incident, false information was introduced into the biography of American political figure John Seigenthaler and remained undetected for four months.[84] John Seigenthaler, the founding editorial director of USA Today and founder of the Freedom Forum First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University, called Jimmy Wales and asked if Wales had any way of knowing who contributed the misinformation. Wales replied that he did not, but nevertheless the perpetrator was eventually traced.[85][86] This incident led to policy changes on the site, specifically targeted at tightening up the verifiability of all biographical articles of living people.
Wikipedia's open structure inherently makes it an easy target for Internet trolls, spamming, and those with an agenda to push.[51][87] The addition of political spin to articles by organizations including members of the U.S. House of Representatives and special interest groups[15] has been noted,[88] and organizations such as Microsoft have offered financial incentives to work on certain articles.[89] These issues have been parodied, notably by Stephen Colbert in The Colbert Report.[90]
For example, in August 2007, the website WikiScanner began to trace the sources of changes made to Wikipedia by anonymous editors without Wikipedia accounts. The program revealed that many such edits were made by corporations or government agencies changing the content of articles related to them, their personnel or their work.[91]
In practice, Wikipedia is defended from attack by multiple systems and techniques. These include users checking pages and edits, computer programs ('bots') that are carefully designed to try to detect attacks and fix them automatically (or semi-automatically), filters that warn users making undesirable edits,[92] blocks on the creation of links to particular websites, blocks on edits from particular accounts, IP addresses or address ranges.
For heavily attacked pages, particular articles can be semi-protected so that only well established accounts can edit them,[93] or for particularly contentious cases, locked so that only administrators are able to make changes.[94] Such locking is applied sparingly, usually for only short periods of time while attacks appear likely to continue.
Coverage of topics
Pie chart of Wikipedia content by subject as of January 2008.[95]
See also: Notability in Wikipedia
Wikipedia seeks to create a summary of all human knowledge in the form of an online encyclopedia. Since it has virtually unlimited disk space it can have far more topics than can be covered by any conventional print encyclopedias.[96] It also contains materials that some people, including Wikipedia editors,[97] may find objectionable, offensive, or pornographic.[98] It was made clear that this policy is not up for debate, and the policy has sometimes proved controversial. For instance, in 2008, Wikipedia rejected an online petition against the inclusion of Muhammad's depictions in its English edition, citing this policy. The presence of politically sensitive materials in Wikipedia had also led the People's Republic of China to block access to parts of the site.[99] (See also: IWF block of Wikipedia)
As of September 2009, Wikipedia articles cover about half a million places on Earth. However, research conducted by the Oxford Internet Institute has shown that the geographic distribution of articles is highly uneven. Most articles are written about North America, Europe, and East Asia, with very little coverage of large parts of the developing world, including most of Africa.[100]
The 20 most viewed articles on English Wikipedia in 2009[101]
1. Wiki
2. The Beatles
3. Michael Jackson
4. Favicon
5. YouTube
6. Wikipedia
7. Barack Obama
8. Deaths in 2009
9. United States
10. Facebook
11. Portal:Current events
12. World War II
13. Twitter
14. Transformers (film)
15. Slumdog Millionaire
16. Lil Wayne
17. Adolf Hitler
18. India
19. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
20. Scrubs (TV series)
A 2008 study conducted by researchers at Carnegie Mellon University and Palo Alto Research Center gave a distribution of topics as well as growth (from July 2006 to January 2008) in each field:[95]
Culture and the arts 30% (210%)
Biographies and persons: 15% (97%)
Geography and places: 14% (52%)
Society and social sciences: 12% (83%)
History and events: 11% (143%)
Natural and the physical sciences: 9% (213%)
Technology and the applied science: 4% (−6%)
Religions and belief systems: 2% (38%)
Health: 2% (42%)
Mathematics and logic: 1% (146%)
Thought and philosophy: 1% (160%)
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Theres about another 20,000 characters to it .
What is the max character limit? lol.
30,000
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Niice, lol. That's us.. Devs who push the limit >^^>
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A Short Look at How Microsoft is empowering Students

As a computer science student, I know how much help free resources for making programs can be. If you look at the price tag for a normal person to buy a Microsoft product such as Visual Studio, you will see that you are paying >=$100 for it. However, if you're a student, Microsoft knows that money is tough for college students, so it is giving many of its products, such as visual studio or the latest version of Windows, away free to students. Microsoft is doing this through 2 main programs: Dreamspark and MSDNAA. If you can dream it, Microsoft has the tools to do it with its Dreamspark site. Want to get developing for the latest version of Windows or Windows Mobile? Dreamspark has fully-featured versions of Visual Studio available for download. Gaming on systems like the Xbox or Windows Mobile 7 more of your fancy? Well, Microsoft has XNA Gaming Studio available, along with a waiver for the $99 fee you normally have to pay to develop games for the Xbox 360. Do the tools you want to run recommend you run Windows 7 but you only have Windows XP and don't have the money to upgrade? Well, Microsoft will give you a free license key via MSDNAA as well as an iso file of the install cd. MSDNAA is the academic wing of MSDN giving you access to most (if not all) of its MSDN resources for free. I would like to mention that both Dreamspark and MSDNAA require you to have a valid university e-mail address before you can complete the signup process, so check with the computer science department (or whoever manages Microsoft relations) at your college or university. If you want a place to get help or just chill out on the net, the Microsoft Student Lounge has forums, fun stuff, reviews, and the latest specials on Microsoft products.
If you've ever used Dreamspark or MSDNAA (or even been to the Microsoft Student Lounge), sound off and leave a thought or 2 about it below.
Here are some links to help you get started:
Imagine Cup: http://bit.ly/fcPDqa
DreamSpark: http://bit.ly/ekmqiA
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Yea, computer science major here too. I need VS
I was called to Dreamspark event in our college (I am mechanical engineer). For a seminar on windows 7. It was a waste of time because these microsoft guys where busy promoting windows 7 rather than explain its features
waste of time and waste of money

Google Buys Micro$soft for 290 Billion Dollars

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/google-buys-microsoft.html
Microsoft to be bought by Google, Windows 8 now to be Chrome OS!
Windows Phone 7 to be merged into IceCream Sandwhich
wow its amazing what they have there fingers in
Google has worked with several corporations, in order to improve production and services. On September 28, 2005,Google announced a long-term research partnership with NASA which would involve Google building a 1-million square foot R&D center at NASA's Ames Research Center. NASA and Google are planning to work together on a variety of areas, including large-scale data management, massively distributed computing, bio-info-nano convergence, and encouragement of the entrepreneurial space industry. The new building would also include labs, offices, and housing for Google engineers.[56] In October 2006, Google formed a partnership with Sun Microsystems to help share and distribute each other's technologies. As part of the partnership Google will hire employees to help the open source office program OpenOffice.org.[57]
Time Warner's AOL unit and Google unveiled an expanded partnership on December 21, 2005, including an enhanced global advertising partnership and a $1 billion investment by Google for a 5% stake in AOL.[58] As part of the collaboration, Google plans to work with AOL on video search and offer AOL's premium-video service within Google Video. This did not allow users of Google Video to search for AOL's premium-video services. Display advertising throughout the Google network will also increase.
In August 2003, Google signed a $900 million offer with News Corp.'s Fox Interactive Media unit to provide search and advertising on MySpace and other News Corp. websites including IGN, AmericanIdol.com, Fox.com, and Rotten Tomatoes, although Fox Sports is not included as a deal already exists between News Corp. and MSN.[59][60]
On 6 December 2006, British Sky Broadcasting released details of a Sky and Google alliance.[61] This includes a feature where Gmail will link with Sky and host a mail service for Sky, incorporating the email domain "@sky.com".
In 2007, Google displaced America Online as a key partner and sponsor of the NORAD Tracks Santa program.[62][63][64]Google Earth was used for the first time to give visitors to the website the impression that they were following Santa Claus' progress in 3-D.[65] The program also made its presence known on YouTube in 2007 as part of its partnership with Google.[66]
In January 2009, Google announced a partnership with the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, allowing the Pope to have his own channel on YouTube
I highly doubt that's true. If anything it would be microsoft buying Google...
Skellyyy said:
I highly doubt that's true. If anything it would be microsoft buying Google...
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It would help if people look at the date on things before they submit them.
This is from 2005, and guess what date of the year
Lol retards never fail to amaze.
'April 1, 2005 8:51 AM'
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read any1 ?
It's not particularly my main though when I read an article to check the date tbh. It's not really a retarded mistake though, just a common mistake. My bad though haha.
Oh and everybody hop off Pulsers d*ck, if it wasn't for him, none of you would of spotted it either.
An old april 1st joke.
AHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is all.
Haha I thought it was true to skelly
In fact I was happy... Couldn't wait for an update to change my Windows 7 boot screen to say Google Windows 7
You'd know these two morons on top of me are from off topic.
I would've personally hand-delivered Google a buck if they had done that.
lmfao! i was like what hahahahahahahaha
SciFiSurfer said:
I would've personally hand-delivered Google a buck if they had done that.
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You and me both. I was so confused until I saw the date on the article.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Loltard alert... and he even put the damn article on his siggie.
This is sooo epic fail...
RTFA's date dude...
Lol funny..I believed it until I read the last sentence...
The SEC is expected to allow this merger and the deal will be done if 4 months from today. Speaking of today, Happy April Fool’s Day!
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This would be simply amazing though if it was a reality
Alright, for those amongst us whom have not come to realize why this will never happen:
1. Google stands for openness, Microsoft stands for opening your wallet.
2. Google's motto is "Do no evil". They might have failed many times, but they still try to uphold it. Bill Gates is now trying to buy his way into heaven.
3. Google's browser, Chrome is a good browser for fast browsing and excellent for content consumption. IE is only good for downloading Firefox or Chrome.
4. Google stands for innovation and openness. Microsoft used to fire people for working on own projects.
Looking at the cultural differences, any business analyst would have seen through it and realized the Google's buyout will result in a mass lay-off of MS employees. On top of that, Google would never have been able to afford the deal (unless they promise share for share exchange).
Last but not least, SEC would have blocked the deal. 100% of all searches in USA would be controlled by one entity (Yahoo is powered by Bing, remember?) and that goes against the anti-trust laws.
'nuff said.

Career Opportunity in Thailand

Hi all,
Firstly, I would like to state that I am new here and not a techie.
I offer a unique career opportunity. I am here to facilitate and identify top talent who may be interested in working in the warm and hospitable climate that is Thailand, for a global internet based company.
In short I am a recruiter looking to fill technical positions within mobile application development for my client who operates a global online booking platform.
I have read the rules of engagement and I do not believe I am in breach with this post - I am not selling anything. I earn a pre-agreed fee upon successful placement with my client; which is well earned for plunging the depths and identifying the best talent and coordinating them through the entire recruitment lifecycle; and this has no impact whatsoever on your potential earnings. My involvement will cease once you start with the client and become an employee.
This is a permanent position in Bangkok and the client offers a full visa and relocation package. Thailand is an ASEAN top 10 nation offering an excellent quality of life, warm hospitality and a sunny climate. How would you like to do the job you love in this environment?
My client is looking for someone with strong mobile application development skills and experience releasing applications on mobile app stores. You will take ownership of your work from analysis, design, implementation and testing, all the way to going live and monitoring the results afterward and evaluate innovative applications and present new ideas for improvement.
The client is a profitable business with the atmosphere of a start-up and is one of the largest and fasting growing online platforms in Asia. The successful candidate will join a team of experienced Scrum developers and have a high degree of autonomy. Technology and innovation are at the heart of everything the client does and you will have the chance to work with cutting edge technology to extend the lead on the competition and your work will have an impact on what the client does around the globe; with a short command structure and the capital to make things happen, your ideas will be put into practise quickly.
This opportunity would suit young professional with a sense of adventure and around 5 years experience.
Should you wish to check my credentials please visit my LinkedIn page (unfortunately, as a new user I am prevented from supplying the link). Type; Daniel Lewis senior consultant clement may linkedin into Google and I should be the first result (resident in Kingsnorth, Kent, United Kingdom)
I can be reached on +44 (0) 207 186 0801 or dan dot lewis at clement may dot com should you wish to find out more information.
Thanks for reading.
Daniel

Why we should NOT use Cloud Storage!

I know a lot of people are upset about the fact that the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 doesn't have a SD card slot and this right here is exactly why I have a 2TB backup drive in my house and it's also the reason I tell people not to use any type of online cloud storage..
Microsoft sues US over secret demands for customer data
Apr 14, 2016 07:29 PM
By BRANDON BAILEY
AP Technology Writer
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Microsoft sued the U.S. government for demanding access to user emails or online files in secret, saying a provision of a 1986 law that authorities use for such undisclosed searches is unconstitutional.
The lawsuit is the latest clash over privacy rights in the digital age. Law enforcement officials want freedom to view a treasure trove of information - including emails, photos and financial records - that customers are storing on electronic gadgets and in so-called "cloud" computing centers.
Microsoft says the U.S. Justice Department is abusing the decades-old Electronic Communications Privacy Act, which allows authorities to obtain court orders requiring it to turn over customer files stored on its servers, while in some cases prohibiting the company from notifying the customer. Microsoft says those "non-disclosure" orders violate its constitutional right to free speech, as well as its customers' protection against unreasonable searches.
A Justice Department spokeswoman said the government is reviewing the lawsuit, which was filed Thursday in Seattle federal court.
One former federal official was critical of Microsoft's position, saying it could lead to warning "child molesters, domestic abusers, violent criminals and terrorists that they're being investigated."
The non-disclosure orders must be granted by a judge who has concluded that "notifying these individuals will have an adverse result, which could include messing up an investigation or even endangering the life or safety of individuals," said Daniel "D.J." Rosenthal, a former National Security Council and Justice Department attorney.
But Microsoft argues the law sets a vague standard for granting secrecy around digital searches. Authorities are required to disclose most search warrants for information stored in filing cabinets, safes or other physical locations, the company noted in its court filing.
"At the end of the day, when you are being investigated by the government, you should know about the investigation so you can prepare a defense," said Mark Jaycox of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group.
Microsoft said government demands under the ECPA law are increasing in number for a variety of investigations, including white-collar cases.
"We appreciate that there are times when secrecy around a government warrant is needed," Microsoft Corp. President Brad Smith said in a statement. "But based on the many secrecy orders we have received, we question whether these orders are grounded in specific facts that truly demand secrecy. To the contrary, it appears that the issuance of secrecy orders has become too routine."
The Redmond, Washington-based company says authorities used the law to demand customer information more than 5,600 times in the last 18 months. In nearly half those cases, a court ordered the company to keep the demand secret.
Although some orders expired after a period of time, Microsoft said the gag orders were indefinite in about 1,750 cases, "meaning that Microsoft could forever be barred from telling the affected customer about the government's intrusion."
As more people store data online, Microsoft argued in its lawsuit that the government is exploiting that trend "as a means of expanding its power to conduct secret investigations."
In an interview, Smith said the company decided to sue the Justice Department after a case where authorities threatened to hold Microsoft in contempt when it sought to contest a particular secrecy order.
"That caused us to step back and take a look at what was going on more broadly," he said. "We were very disconcerted when we added up the large number of secrecy orders we've been receiving."
While the lawsuit specifically challenges ECPA's secrecy provision, Congress has been debating a number of reforms in response to criticism that it's outdated in various ways.
The House Judiciary Committee this week approved a bill to amend the law so authorities would need a warrant to see email and other digital files that have been stored online for more than 180 days. Currently the law allows access with a subpoena, which can be obtained more easily by satisfying a weaker legal standard.
But a recent amendment to the bill would still allow non-disclosure orders lasting up to six months, which could potentially be extended. Microsoft's Smith said he's not optimistic that Congress will pass any reforms this year.
Microsoft rival Apple has been waging a high-profile legal battle over the FBI's attempt to compel that company's help in obtaining data stored on iPhones.
"It's part of the same trend," said Alex Abdo, a staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union. He said tech companies "have gotten the message loud and clear from the American public, that privacy matters."
The source link to this is here.
http://m.wtvm.com/wtvm/db/376055/content/8llRzBFa
is a good point - but you should also never use a VPN hosted by any of the "five eyes" countries, or all of the "fourteen eyes" either, also you wouldn't run a Samsung account, use Google services such a Gmail, Facebook, or any other myriad of (especially) US based privacy invasive "free" services online.
Privacy is very important. But people forget that their free Gmail account does come at a cost, so does Facebook (loathe that platform).
You cannot just stop using a cloud based storage service (personally I use Tresorit - end to end encryption and a zero knowledge service) and we all use Android devices here (MM privacy settings are a step in the right direction, but also reading and learning about what you can do to make sure your phone isn't the information leak Google would prefer it to be is a wise thing to do)
Change your email to something offering zero knowledge and end to end encryption such as Protonmail or Tutanota. Create a "throwaway" email and account for Google Play and their services. Always use the Google Play gift cards rather than a credit card for purchases.
Don't use Google Maps period. Use Open Street Maps instead.
Use DuckDuckGo as your search engine, never Google.
Find out what a warrant canary is and check them for all the services you use regularly!
Use a firewall on your device. Use Tor on your device. Don't ever use Chrome, use Firefox and make sure you adjust the privacy settings hidden inside it.
As you can see, there is a lot to consider and do if you value your privacy, not just cloud storage.
All of this is easily searchable on the internet so it pays to read.
To paraphrase Glen Greenwald, many people will say they have nothing to hide, well if that is the case send me your login details to your email accounts and online social media accounts. No one has ever taken up that offer......
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is a good point - but you should also never use a VPN hosted by any of the "five eyes" countries, or all of the "fourteen eyes" either, also you wouldn't run a Samsung account, use Google services such a Gmail, Facebook, or any other myriad of (especially) US based privacy invasive "free" services online.
Privacy is very important. But people forget that their free Gmail account does come at a cost, so does Facebook (loathe that platform).
You cannot just stop using a cloud based storage service (personally I use Tresorit - end to end encryption and a zero knowledge service) and we all use Android devices here (MM privacy settings are a step in the right direction, but also reading and learning about what you can do to make sure your phone isn't the information leak Google would prefer it to be is a wise thing to do)
Change your email to something offering zero knowledge and end to end encryption such as Protonmail or Tutanota. Create a "throwaway" email and account for Google Play and their services. Always use the Google Play gift cards rather than a credit card for purchases.
Don't use Google Maps period. Use Open Street Maps instead.
Use DuckDuckGo as your search engine, never Google.
Find out what a warrant canary is and check them for all the services you use regularly!
Use a firewall on your device. Use Tor on your device. Don't ever use Chrome, use Firefox and make sure you adjust the privacy settings hidden inside it.
As you can see, there is a lot to consider and do if you value your privacy, not just cloud storage.
All of this is easily searchable on the internet so it pays to read.
To paraphrase Glen Greenwald, many people will say they have nothing to hide, well if that is the case send me your login details to your email accounts and online social media accounts. No one has ever taken up that offer......
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Most of those thing's I don't use and the rare times that I do use them I have account names that mean nothing and have no important information in them. Any important emails that I get are sent to my own personal encrypted mail server and I don't bother with VPN connections because Tor Browser is good enough for me. This is also the reason I don't use Microsoft Windows at all and use Linux instead because when something gets installed on my system it's because I did it but with Microsoft Windows it's to easy to get viruses and whatnot and I've yet to ever have that happen to my nix. I also loathe Facebook and I rarely ever get on there because it seems like people detail their entire day every day from the time they wake up until they go to bed and that's a treasure trove to anyone who is looking for information on you! But let's face it though, there really is no way to 100% truly secure your information online because if someone is determined and smart enough they'll get what they want but we don't have to make it easy for them to get it!!
Same here - but I am always surprised at the other people out there that complain about privacy but never do anything about it, or don't know anything about how to fix it...
Unfortunately I am locked into Windows 10 as I have a SP4.....until the touchscreen and the pen works with Linux it is pointless to move OS's - I do have it locked down and no longer sending any telemetry as much as humanly possible!
I spend a lot of time being mobile so setting up my own email servers or use something like OwnCloud (isn't there a vulnerability with that at the moment?) to sync my phone isn't practical as it would require more than a SP4!
Agree that if they really want to know what you are up to they will, but why make it easy eh?!
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is a good point - but you should also never use a VPN hosted by any of the "five eyes" countries, or all of the "fourteen eyes" either... <snip> Protonmail or Tutanota
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So, basically, I agree with what you said, and I've looked at both those providers. Protonmail is based in Switzerland, and Tutanota in Germany. Um... given the Snowden revelations (and other things) can we actually depend on any German company? Is Switzerland even secure anymore?
Maybe I'm being silly, ignorant, or whatever about this. Got any thoughts on this?

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