Hi, i recently got my HTC KAISER,
unfortunately, the case that came with it to me is terrible, until now because of it, the phone fell from my hand 2 times until now. i have a feeling that the hinge is a bit loose from the screen. does anyone know how to tighten it back to the screen? from the right hand side there is about 2mm gap, and it makes a sound when i touch the screen since it hits the back.
any help, is appreciated.. esp if they are productive.
Thnx in advance
How can we help fix it if it was dropped? You didn't even provide any pics of it and I highly doubt we can help you. If its damaged its damaged, and your only course of action is to take it back and see if its under warranty and cross your fingers. I wish you the best of luck and hope someone can repair it for you. As far as the case I totally know how flimsy they are.
What does this have to do with XDA development?
Try the ATT wireless forums. This forum is for development.
what a couple of unhelpful posts, have we no mercy? this forum is full of topics that are 100% kaiser but 0% development, why are you picking on the poor guy with the (possibly) broken phone? and why direct him to some AT&T forum when he's already said it's an HTC branded phone? if you're going to kick a man when he's down, at least read his post properly first.
to the op: I feel your pain. in my first couple of weeks with the kaiser I must have dropped mine a dozen times, I think it's something to do with the extra weight. anyway, I too had some issues with the screen afterward - at one point their was a definite gap between the screen and keyboard as you described. I really noticed it and worried at first, but after a few days use and pocketwear, I found it pretty much closed up by itself. similiarly, i've found times where the top half of the phone has become misaligned to the left or right, so it overhangs slightly - this can be cured with a gentle but firm push the other way. I think the whole mechanism has been designed with a bit of give in it, so it can take odd knock without shattering, but still be nudged back into place without any real damage done. My advice - keep using it, slide and tilt it a few dozen times, and see if it falls back into shape. if it doesn't, try a firm but gentle push in the right direction, and if *that* doesn't work then take it back. but don't take any nonsense in the shop - insist on a warranty repair.
What are you talking about? I was blunt and straight to the point with the op. I told him we can't do anything and where he needs to go. I'm not gonna hold someones hand and tell them everything is gonna be fine and there's light at the end of the tunnel. He made a thread with NO pics to even show us what is going on so are we suppose to guess?
You don't have to be a customer of ATT forums to post there. The Kaiser design and the Tilt design are identical except for logos and the front cam.
The discussion would probably be better there instead of xda-developers
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What are you talking about? I was blunt and straight to the point with the op. I told him we can't do anything and where he needs to go. I'm not gonna hold someones hand and tell them everything is gonna be fine and there's light at the end of the tunnel. He made a thread with NO pics to even show us what is going on so are we suppose to guess?
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there may be people on the forum that are famaliar with taking apart the Tilt and tightening the hinges. this is why he posted.
Thnx for the support
Thnx for all of the support until now....
i am begining to accept the fact that i can bear the hinge problem which might not be a problem since the aligning is ok slightly loose, but today in the morning, i noticed that after the fall, the "start" button of the keyboard is sticking out, is there anyway to stick.fix it back in like the rest of the keys (something similar to the laptop buttons, by pushing it in, in a way??)
thnx for all of the support.
There is a thread around here some where that has a ZIP or a link to a PDF file that shows you how to take the phone apart. The reson for the PDF was to show you how to make the screen tilt even more than what it does stock. Search for it, I dont have the link, but I have seen it and read it on these forums.
pls
any ideas concerning the keyboard problem?
The start is not in its place no more, it is somewhat hanging...
plssss help...
thnx
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there may be people on the forum that are famaliar with taking apart the Tilt and tightening the hinges. this is why he posted.
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As am I. Again. We're not mind readers. If you have a hardware problem you post pics and point-out exactly what's wrong so people can trouble shoot it. Take it to at&t like the first post suggested. I think a few of you need a cab that installs common sense before you post.
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There is a thread around here some where that has a ZIP or a link to a PDF file that shows you how to take the phone apart. The reson for the PDF was to show you how to make the screen tilt even more than what it does stock. Search for it, I dont have the link, but I have seen it and read it on these forums.
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The dismantling guide that Grizzley refers to is available here (Tonychen's guide):www.mikechannon.net (in the manuals section)
To the posters that don't like the OPs post:
If the post had been made in the Upgrading Forum then I would join you in saying this is not a development or upgrading matter. However the post was made in the regular Kaiser section and is therefore a completely legitimate post. In fact, we have a tradition of trying to help those that want to dis-assemble their device for whatever reason. Even if they don't, but just need more info on the mechanics of the device then that is ok too. Thinking of the TyTn/Hermes, a fix was found for the loose keyboard problem via dismantling procedures and physical examination of the device. Problems can be physical as well as software related, so don't be too narrowly focused in this general Kaiser forum.
I do agree with those that say you must give full details and pics if at all possible with this kind of problem, otherwise we are left guessing and possibly wasting time suggesting things that maybe inappropriate.
Mike
Pictures are here
Here are the pics...
look at the "start" button, it is not completely removed, it is hanging on like this....
look at the gap from the right hand side (Power + camera button side) is bigger that the gap from the sim slot side, therefore generating a plastic tap sound when pressing on the screen from the right side. as you can see in the pics, the gap is bigger than the paper clip size.
any suggestions for reducing the gap, and fixing the "Start" button?
any suggestions?????
help would be appreciated!
Ok, after seeing what's wrong you def need to take it back to the store you bought it from. Ask them if they can sen it out for repair. They'l most likely give ya a temp phone til it comes back. Now, it's probably not gonna be covered for obvious reasons, however, it might be cheaper to have them repair it rather than buy another one. Worst case scenario you could replace it with a refurb. Refurbs are excellent and some you can't tell if they're refurbs to be honest. Cost is approx $149, plus shipping. Let us know what they say when you take it back.
Other than taking it to the store, any possible suggestion that i could take action on by my self to fix this issue quickly?
because they will ask me to leave it with them for a couple of weeks!
I know cnn.cn does sell replacement parts, if your willing to do the repair yourself. Sorry I cant help anymore
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What does this have to do with XDA development?
Try the ATT wireless forums. This forum is for development.
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Hey jon_k, hat was bloody helpful mate!!!!!
I trust that you will be shown the same courtesy by the rest of us should you ever have a "non-development" question!!!
BTW, this forum is NOT just about development....ummm, can you read dude?
a$$wipe.
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Hey jon_k, hat was bloody helpful mate!!!!!
I trust that you will be shown the same courtesy by the rest of us should you ever have a "non-development" question!!!
BTW, this forum is NOT just about development....ummm, can you read dude?
a$$wipe.
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jon_k's post was over 20 days ago, and he's already been corrected by a mod. Before this gets out of hand, let me remind you to not feed the trolls!
With the help of the link above you will be prepared to open the Kaiser. OK, you have to have the tools mentioned and do take a deep breath before you start, but as soon as you start the process is simple. Print out the photo's and write on the paper the colour and type of the screws you removed.
The glued on case above the battery compartment is the meanest of them all to remove and thats where you start with. So when that is done in about 5 minutes you can discover the buttons from the inside and in 10 minutes you come to the hinges where you find a total of four philips screws to tighten.
Beware for one thing though. The black plate which holds the slider system is held by six torx screws. Check them too, but don't tighten them too much or you will end up with a broken screw. Guess how I know
Regards, Roel
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I'm wondering if anyone has managed to take apart their kaiser -- beyond just unscrewing the back cover. The "Void" sticker by the way is very easy to take off and put aside for easy replacement later. However, I can't get beyond the specially shielded antenna area. Anyone taken it apart and want to share their instructions?
Hi
You don't need to, it's already been done on the FCC website:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...mFrame=N&application_id=409381&fcc_id='NM8KS'
Regards
Phil
But I like to take mine apart to put the screen protector on so I don't have any non-protected space. The FCC doesn't guide me through taking it apart. I was hoping someone around here had managed to do it, but I guess the phone isn't popular enough yet.
LOL, applying screen protector cant be that big a task, can it? Be careful of turning the "screen protector" into the "other parts un-protector"
*Shrug* I did it with the Hermes every time. It was nice frankly -- and yes, certainly a bit OCD-style unnecessary. But it looked nice, hard to tell there's a protector on it at all. And as long as one is careful, it doesn't hurt anything -- my Hermes is still kicking after a year of doing that. So again, I'm guessing no one has been able to take it apart yet... it'll happen soon enough.
I dig the fact that you went through so much trouble to protect your Hermes BUT at this point no one has had the balls to take apart there $1,000 Kaiser just yet. I'm sure pretty soon there will be some pictures detailing the steps
It is VERY easy to take a tilt apart
My Screen got cracked so I ordered a new one for $47. The website also has the instructions for taking the tilt apart to replace the screen. You can get the instructions here:
http://e5hopa.bay.livefilestore.com..._TILT_8925_KAISER SERVICE MANUAL.pdf?download
I replaced my screen in about 30 minutes.
why do people keep posting threads like this, are the others not good enough?
For those that were considering a new housing for their X7501 I found a website I recently placed an order with. For the past few weeks my searches were coming up with the housing for the X7500's but I lucked out tonight. If anyone's interested in purchasing a new housing the link is:
http://www.order-bulk.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=dopod+u1000&Search=Search
I'll give feedback after my order is received.
now i need to have $100... i want this. i will need this in the future, but i must get one right away.
jetherson said:
now i need to have $100... i want this. i will need this in the future, but i must get one right away.
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LMAO, don't forget to order the disassembly tools. I'm still waiting for my order to come.
can someone post a link on how to dissasemble the htc advantage 7501, i am really bothered with my scratches, and I am considering to buy a new housing, but the question how to install it.
my scratch is on the chrome close to the screen, very annoying scratch, please anyone come up with a solution to remove scratches, or help us providing a how to guide to install new housings
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can someone post a link on how to dissasemble the htc advantage 7501, i am really bothered with my scratches, and I am considering to buy a new housing, but the question how to install it.
my scratch is on the chrome close to the screen, very annoying scratch, please anyone come up with a solution to remove scratches, or help us providing a how to guide to install new housings
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I know responderman had done the swap of the housing already. He might have some information along with pictures on it. If you don't get any replies or find anything let me know and I'll see what I can come up with. I too myself will need it anyway. My housing should be here any day now.
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Use responderman link , post 9
Just to say it is tricky will be an understatement, so I would ask for advice from somebody that has done it, even with the manual, just to minimize damage.
Im here guys its not that hard when you know what to look out for. I will let you know more when you are ready.
Jay
I am receiving my housing today, please provide details and step by step guide, how you did it. I am awaiting your feedback your help is very much appreciated
Athena Manual
Hi Again,
The official Athena Manual HERE will tell you much better than I can from page 29 to 33, But if you have any questions then ask me on this thread so everyone can read it please.
Regards
Jay
well looks so complicated, now i will till the phone really becomes nasty looking, then i will try this
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There you got
Just to say it is tricky will be an understatement, so I would ask for advice from somebody that has done it, even with the manual, just to minimize damage.
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I'd love to look at the manual you attached, but when I try to unzip it, it asks for the next part of the archive... was this a spanned zip file?
The file link Responderman gave is coming up blank for me. Anyone got a better link to this repair manual? I dropped my x7501 and smashed the corner of the case - still works fine, but the case is slowly disintegrating....!!!
same here, cant download megaupload file, and part of zip missing :-S
thx
Zip file? Its a PDF file and the link is working fine. Ive just tested it on another computer. You should be able to download it and start it straight away????
Jay
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Zip file? Its a PDF file and the link is working fine. Ive just tested it on another computer. You should be able to download it and start it straight away????
Jay
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I am so frustrated. After ordering my housing, it finally came today (2 wks late), only to find out it's the X7500 housing. Not only that but getting out the car it fell on the face and got a slight scratch on the side. I will attempt to reach out to the supplier and see why they have false advertising on their site. I'll see how the return works out.
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I am so frustrated. After ordering my housing, it finally came today (2 wks late), only to find out it's the X7500 housing. Not only that but getting out the car it fell on the face and got a slight scratch on the side. I will attempt to reach out to the supplier and see why they have false advertising on their site. I'll see how the return works out.
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Sh*t thats bad news, sounds like they dont know what they are on about. I would complain to them. Are you happy with the work you need to do to change it?? it aint that bad honest, the worst bit is removing the plastic cover on the top.
Keep me posted
Jay
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Sh*t thats bad news, sounds like they dont know what they are on about. I would complain to them. Are you happy with the work you need to do to change it?? it aint that bad honest, the worst bit is removing the plastic cover on the top.
Keep me posted
Jay
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I sent them a complaint letter. I'm pretty confident I can do the swap out. I'll keep you posted on how it all goes.
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I sent them a complaint letter. I'm pretty confident I can do the swap out. I'll keep you posted on how it all goes.
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By the way, did you have any trouble with the athena manual download I posted? it seems some cant see it, but they are on about zip files
Jay
managed to get the megaupload pdf downloaded, must have been my ffox noscripts!
ok, so p29-33 seem ok, how does the bottom panel (with the battery cover) slide off?
also, what about the vueflo button, does that just get pushed in and then the internal unit slides out?
thanks for your help, i too ordered off order-bulk, the black case, what is difference to x7500 case?
also, navi rubber button, does the rubber bit in center pull out, then reveals a screw? or does the whole bit screw off?
HoggerJeff
I'd love to look at the manual you attached, but when I try to unzip it, it asks for the next part of the archive... was this a spanned zip file?
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yea sorry I missed two files, since the total size is 9M and responderman posted a link for the same manual, I have deleted the original posted file and edited my previous post ( the limit is 8M for attached zip files)
responderman
by the way, did you have any trouble with the athena manual download I posted? it seems some cant see it, but they are on about zip files
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now you know.
badaas
how does the bottom panel (with the battery cover) slide off?
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you pull the navi rubber out, under it there is an screw, unscrew it and take the joystick, take out the power and comm manager/record bottoms
the top part is taken by starting from the corner ( next to the front camera) and continuing through to the other side (be careful with the volume bottom
pull the two plastic layers ( one in the corner other near the centre)
to take the plastic at the bottom, remove the screws and careful take the part
Now you should have a metal case opened at top and bottom, slide the internal parts towards the top
I didn't find it easy so read the manual until all is clear and good luck.
got mine today, no vueflo replacement button, and case bottom cover is warped! grrrr, peed off now, got an orange 'hole' where the vueflo was lol! (which apparently you can leave in place, same for 'ok' and 'menu' buttons on left, as theyre attached to the case, not the internal housing, which will slide out past them with no trouble! - hindsight eh!? marvellous thing!!!).
oh, and my rubber nipple cover pinged off somewhere into the obscurity of my carpet, great!!
edit: just a note, you don't have to take the battery bottom case part off first. you can do that once it's all slid out. much easier, as you can get to the little buggery clips without hassle!
I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks
well i don't know if warranty will cover it or not but you are still under your one year warranty so you could try to get a replacement. Its hard to say what could be causing it. You can check out mike channon's articles on disassembling a kaiser.
Good luck.
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I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks
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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya
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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya
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I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?
This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.
I did a screen replacement on a Wizard, and it wasn't that difficult. just make sure you don't break anything while trying to pry small pieces off to get to the screen.
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This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.
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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.
brianlb said:
I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?
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Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !
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Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !
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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$
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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$
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Let us know how it goes
Glad I could help
Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.
congratulations!
good to hear you've achieved a successful repair!
correct me if i'm wrong...are you saying that the two halves of the phone (screen and keyboard) don't align properly when the keyboard is closed? if so, i remember a thread in this section of the kaiser forums that details (with pictures) how to possibly fix that particular problem!!!
"search and ye shall foundeth it !!!"
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Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.
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Im glad i could help Im also glad to hear the phone is up and running again
As was stated before, there is a thread for the case not aligning. I did some quick looking but to no avail. If i come across it ill be sure to post it
I'm not sure if I'm explaining it correctly. But it's basically the outer case, and around the power button it's not flush. Not sure if you can tell from my pics. I tried also doing a search w/no luck. I'm sure there is some specific name or something other than case that it's under.
When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...
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When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...
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I tried that, and it doesn't seem to pop in at all.
I think its just like DemoShadow said. I dropped mine once and it seems to be a similar issue. I also just pushed really hard to get it to pop back in. I think its just that clip isnt in place as it should be when it was put back together. If anything, try to take it apart and put it back together
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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.
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how did you put the keyboard back on????????????????
Can you be more specific?
Hey,
I literally just replaced the screen on my backup Tilt last night. Still got most of it in my head.
What, exactly, do you mean about putting the keyboard back on? Got any pics of where you are now?
This was one of the easiest things I've had to do...asside from it being somewhat tedious. Most of my issues were resolved by MAGNIFICATION! Once I could see what I was doing, there were almost no issues.
I only paid $31.99 on eBay for a screen with free shipping (from USA no less)...less than the $35 I would have had to pay with the insurance through my Provider Dealer...and I didn't have to wait for 3-5 weeks to get it back.
I'd do this for people with broken screens as a service, but I can't guarantee the cost of the screen...it goes up and down too much.
If you can be real descriptive, or have pictures, I'm pretty sure I can help get you back together.
Let me know, I'll keep an eye on this thread...
RAF
here's some dismantling guides
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
you dont have to remove the keyboard to replace the LCD, unless u're talking about the outer keypad, which just sits in its spot
Ok, I am considering ordering a new housing for my X1.
Ive searched and searched the forums for this and found (surprisingly) that no one has brought this up yet
I watched the SE document detailing the disassembly and reassembly of the X1. I decided to try it myself to see if I was capable of doing it before ordering the new housing. I got all the way to the part where you start peeling **** off and got scared and had to put everything back together (and did it successfully I might add)
So I was wondering, in the tech spec it says to discard these things. Obviously this is not an option since I dont have another one to reattach later.
How hard is it to carefully peel off these things and reattach them later the way they were?
Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement of these things?
Has anyone done this successfully that can give any insight or tips as to how to go about this?
I have found some conductive fabric for sale but the one used in the tech video seems to be specially tailored for the X1.
Please help, any help or comments would be appreciated!
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Ok, I am considering ordering a new housing for my X1.
Ive searched and searched the forums for this and found (surprisingly) that no one has brought this up yet
I watched the SE document detailing the disassembly and reassembly of the X1. I decided to try it myself to see if I was capable of doing it before ordering the new housing. I got all the way to the part where you start peeling **** off and got scared and had to put everything back together (and did it successfully I might add)
So I was wondering, in the tech spec it says to discard these things. Obviously this is not an option since I dont have another one to reattach later.
How hard is it to carefully peel off these things and reattach them later the way they were?
Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement of these things?
Has anyone done this successfully that can give any insight or tips as to how to go about this?
I have found some conductive fabric for sale but the one used in the tech video seems to be specially tailored for the X1.
Please help, any help or comments would be appreciated!
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you just put them back on.. it's not that tricky.
I've never had a problem with any phone I've ever worked on.. just take 30 seconds to make sure its all lined up correctly.
ibeQuint said:
you just put them back on.. it's not that tricky.
I've never had a problem with any phone I've ever worked on.. just take 30 seconds to make sure its all lined up correctly.
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Ok thanks for the input. Now I feel a little better about it. So you HAVE done this for the X1?? or just other phones?
Screwing and unscrewing I am perfectly fine with, but when I have to start peeling **** i get uncomfortable.
matthewpapa said:
Screwing and unscrewing I am perfectly fine with, but when I have to start peeling **** i get uncomfortable.
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lol insert bad "thats what she said" joke
killerskincanoe said:
lol insert bad "thats what she said" joke
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lmao. yea, i set myself up good for that one
matthewpapa said:
Ok thanks for the input. Now I feel a little better about it. So you HAVE done this for the X1?? or just other phones?
Screwing and unscrewing I am perfectly fine with, but when I have to start peeling **** i get uncomfortable.
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I've done repairs on touch pro's and touch diamonds, I can't imagine they are too different from an X1.
just make sure you don't place them sticky side down on anything and use tweezers so none of the oils on your fingers get on the sticky side.
For reference only! This will absolutely VOID any warranty you may have on your device. If you believe you have a VALID reason to take apart a fully functioning phone, you DON'T! You are responsible for your actions and the reuslt of your actions, don't lay fault with anyone else.
The phone used to create the guide is my first D415. It took a long walk of a short box and shattered the screen. Let's leave it at that, please. And you thought I was going to take apart a fully functioning phone, didn't you?
You shall acquire and assemble in the same place, these items
The phone you wish to disassemble
A "precision" philips head screwdriver (don't know what a philips head is? Please go elsewhere)
A thin piece of plastic, an ID or bank card, guitar pick, even the edge of a plastic knife (file off the "teeth") You get the idea....
Optional items
Small blunt tip tweezers
Container to hold screws and such
Magnet to find the screws you drop (you will drop at least one)
Magnifying glass
Pictures say more with less words, so.....
I missed something when I tried to embed my pictures. For now, please look at the attached photos. Sorry about that.
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there is an excellent video here
******UPDATE******
My apologies for not staying up on this. Life and my One+ One obsession got in the way. As
Refer to video link above for detailed instructions regarding hardware disassembly/reassembly process
I have ordered a WHITE replacement screen to test. Let's hope that it arrives with touchscreen issues.
I will update thread upon arrival of touchscreen.
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Here is a photo album consisting of extra pictures that didn't make the guide. Some have fairly useful info as well as a few DON'T do this or you will break your phone even more pictures.
I've also added an update concerning reversed x axis starting at post #43
ID Numbers to compare
ID #'s are listed to the side. Again, sorry I couldn't embed them. I still searching for a solution....
jran0880 said:
If you believe you have a VALID reason to take apart a fully functioning phone, you DON'T!
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Reasons, you say? Ha! Since when have I needed... reasons... to do anything?
But anyway, this is a very good guide! Thank you for taking the time to write it with the very detailed pictures! This should definitely be a sticky!
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I have begun the process of disassembling the phone, and so far I was able to get 1 screw out (yay me). Guess what color the screw was? Green.
Very comprehensive guide, you really went out of your way! Kudos!
Please tell me how to get my pictures to display in my post. I thought I followed the instructions I found. However, the OP was from 2012. The link I created for each picture had HTML tags and from reading, xda does not use HTML for security reasons. So I deleted the HTML tags and tried the bb code, with no luck. Your guidance is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Please tell me how to get my pictures to display in my post. I thought I followed the instructions I found. However, the OP was from 2012. The link I created for each picture had HTML tags and from reading, xda does not use HTML for security reasons. So I deleted the HTML tags and tried the bb code, with no luck. Your guidance is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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To show pictures, like in @Ilxaot's post above you, they need to be online somewhere. Use the Image tag
and the enter the image URL.
Now as I write this, I cheated with the image in my last paragraph. I copied it from the editor, right click -> Copy, and then pasted it in to the edit box... Weird. That may work too. LOL
jasonmerc said:
I have begun the process of disassembling the phone, and so far I was able to get 1 screw out (yay me). Guess what color the screw was? Green.[/QUOTE
Any luck with the other 10?
Any of the identifiers i posted help at all?
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Using your guide, I successfully disassembled, replaced LCD and digitizer of my son's phone (like yours, sudden stop at high velocity) with Chinese purchased parts from eBay. BTW, didn't drop one screw lol. However since they weren't OEM parts, I've got the reversed touch I've read about and seen videos of (swipe right, screen moves left; touch right side of screen for a check box on the left side). Any idea of a fix? Let me tell you it was a pain signing into WiFi. Thanks for your guide and photos.
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Using your guide, I successfully disassembled, replaced LCD and digitizer of my son's phone (like yours, sudden stop at high velocity) with Chinese purchased parts from eBay. BTW, didn't drop one screw lol. However since they weren't OEM parts, I've got the reversed touch I've read about and seen videos of (swipe right, screen moves left; touch right side of screen for a check box on the left side). Any idea of a fix? Let me tell you it was a pain signing into WiFi. Thanks for your guide and photos.
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Maybe you can flip the digitizer 180°? I dont know if that would be possible (if the digitizer would even be able to fit in the phone the other way) but maybe it will work...
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jasonmerc said:
I have begun the process of disassembling the phone, and so far I was able to get 1 screw out (yay me). Guess what color the screw was? Green.[/QUOTE
Any luck with the other 10?
Any of the identifiers i posted help at all?
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I gave up. You see, the eyeglass screwdriver I have is EXTREMELY small and doesn't fit in the screws perfectly, but it's the best I've got. Coupled with the fact that green LockTite is on the screws (green LockTite is the strongest LockTite they make), it pains my fingers to have to keep on jamming down on the screw to get enough of a "hold" on the screw while I turn it. Maybe in the future I'll buy a bigger screwdriver so I can have a better grip on it, but for now I'm done.
It's probably for the better anyway... I probably would have dropped the digitizer in the toilet or something if I got it apart.
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Maybe you can flip the digitizer 180°? I dont know if that would be possible (if the digitizer would even be able to fit in the phone the other way) but maybe it will work...
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I gave up. You see, the eyeglass screwdriver I have is EXTREMELY small and doesn't fit in the screws perfectly, but it's the best I've got. Coupled with the fact that green LockTite is on the screws (green LockTite is the strongest LockTite they make), it pains my fingers to have to keep on jamming down on the screw to get enough of a "hold" on the screw while I turn it. Maybe in the future I'll buy a bigger screwdriver so I can have a better grip on it, but for now I'm done.
It's probably for the better anyway... I probably would have dropped the digitizer in the toilet or something if I got it apart.
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Yeah, i dont recommend attempting cell phone disassembly while pearched on the "throne". Not judging! Just a personal decision on my part.
I wish i had the sense to know when to take that deep breath and calmly walk away. If i were in your shoes, the other 10 screws would be rounded out by now. There would be no accidental drop into the toilet, the phone would go down as the only l90 d415 to understand the meaning of swirly.... Wouldve made a great video though.
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pre4speed said:
Using your guide, I successfully disassembled, replaced LCD and digitizer of my son's phone (like yours, sudden stop at high velocity) with Chinese purchased parts from eBay. BTW, didn't drop one screw lol. However since they weren't OEM parts, I've got the reversed touch I've read about and seen videos of (swipe right, screen moves left; touch right side of screen for a check box on the left side). Any idea of a fix? Let me tell you it was a pain signing into WiFi. Thanks for your guide and photos.
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It looks like theres a flat connector between rhe 2 pieces. Perhaps it is connected "backwards"? I will look into it on my "donar" phone and see if i can figure something out. Will post findings within a day or 2.
*Edit - check @jasonmerc's reply as well. Good thought!
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Maybe you can flip the digitizer 180°? I dont know if that would be possible (if the digitizer would even be able to fit in the phone the other way) but maybe it will work...
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No that wouldn't work since the digitizer came with the double sided tape but thanks. The buttons also don't work and touch doesn't work at all with the phone laying flat
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jasonmerc said:
Yeah, i dont recommend attempting cell phone disassembly while pearched on the "throne". Not judging! Just a personal decision on my part.
I wish i had the sense to know when to take that deep breath and calmly walk away. If i were in your shoes, the other 10 screws would be rounded out by now. There would be no accidental drop into the toilet, the phone would go down as the only l90 d415 to understand the meaning of swirly.... Wouldve made a great video though.
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Oh no, I'm not disassembling it there XD I'm doing it in my room. Just a bad joke on my part... With my luck, I'd have the digitizer laying half-off my desk, and I'd accidentally launch it in the air my hitting my hand on the part off the desk. It would then travel in the perfect arc to the bounce off the hallway wall, enter the restroom, and drop in the "throne" because the lid was left open.
I think some of the screws are actually a bit rounded off, but not to the point of not being able to work with them. That's part of the reason why I'm hesitant to proceed; I don't want to round them off completely because my screwdriver doesn't perfectly fit. I'd greatly appreciate if someone told me the exact screwdriver they used to disassemble this, and maybe where it was bought as well.
If all else fails and something breaks or the screws get rounded off completely, I'll grab a sledgehammer and finish it off. I'll even upload a video of it (and call it "How-To: Quick Disassembly of the L90")
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No that wouldn't work since the digitizer came with the double sided tape but thanks. The buttons also don't work and touch doesn't work at all with the phone laying flat
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Hmm... Then there's gotta be some sort of manual screen calibration app out there. I'll look for one and post back if I find anything.
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I found a thread talking about how to calibrate the touch screen of a chinese android tablet. I haven't read it yet, so I personally don't know if this will work or not for the L90, and if they do the instructions you will have to follow will probably be way different when it comes to actually calibrating. Quickly looking at the thread it looks like one will need ADB and a computer to do this.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THE THREAD
I'd say hold off on doing this until I or someone more technically experienced can confirm that this would work. If you do want to give it a go, please realize you are proceeding at your own risk.
EDIT: Having read the thread, those values for the screen are going to be different for the L90 since the screen resolutions are different. We are going to have to find the values for the L90 and then invert the X axis values and that should solve your touch screen inversion (we are basically creating a double-inversion. Who says two wrongs don't make a right?)
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jran0880 said:
Oh no, I'm not disassembling it there XD I'm doing it in my room. Just a bad joke on my part... With my luck, I'd have the digitizer laying half-off my desk, and I'd accidentally launch it in the air my hitting my hand on the part off the desk. It would then travel in the perfect arc to the bounce off the hallway wall, enter the restroom, and drop in the "throne" because the lid was left open.
I think some of the screws are actually a bit rounded off, but not to the point of not being able to work with them. That's part of the reason why I'm hesitant to proceed; I don't want to round them off completely because my screwdriver doesn't perfectly fit. I'd greatly appreciate if someone told me the exact screwdriver they used to disassemble this, and maybe where it was bought as well.
If all else fails and something breaks or the screws get rounded off completely, I'll grab a sledgehammer and finish it off. I'll even upload a video of it (and call it "How-To: Quick Disassembly of the L90")
Hmm... Then there's gotta be some sort of manual screen calibration app out there. I'll look for one and post back if I find anything.
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I found a thread talking about how to calibrate the touch screen of a chinese android tablet. I haven't read it yet, so I personally don't know if this will work or not for the L90, and if they do the instructions you will have to follow will probably be way different when it comes to actually calibrating. Quickly looking at the thread it looks like one will need ADB and a computer to do this.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THE THREAD
I'd say hold off on doing this until I or someone more technically experienced can confirm that this would work. If you do want to give it a go, please realize you are proceeding at your own risk.
EDIT: Having read the thread, those values for the screen are going to be different for the L90 since the screen resolutions are different. We are going to have to find the values for the L90 and then invert the X axis values and that should solve your touch screen inversion (we are basically creating a double-inversion. Who says two wrongs don't make a right?)
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Figured out how to obtain th XY values for normal screen, if someone can figure out where modifications need to be made, Im thinking framework? The values for XY can be enabled in Developer Options - show touches and XY values. Turns out 10 taps to become a developer (its true cuz i read the toast) has other useful tools. I will decompile any suggestions related to touch screen calibration.
Brings back found memories of the famed L9 P769. It only took me 6 unintended 911 calls to reflash back to stock. Yep, 6! 5 with no sim. Took less than 2 seconds to pinpoint location on last few calls. 5 cars fully lit in my front yard and another 2 setting perimiter. Not once, but twice! Threat of jail made the choice to stop obvious.
"What are you in for?"
"I tried to unlock my bootloader." :cyclops:
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jran0880 said:
jasonmerc said:
Figured out how to obtain th XY values for normal screen, if someone can figure out where modifications need to be made, Im thinking framework? The values for XY can be enabled in Developer Options - show touches and XY values. Turns out 10 taps to become a developer (its true cuz i read the toast) has other useful tools. I will decompile any suggestions related to touch screen calibration.
Brings back found memories of the famed L9 P769. It only took me 6 unintended 911 calls to reflash back to stock. Yep, 6! 5 with no sim. Took less than 2 seconds to pinpoint location on last few calls. 5 cars fully lit in my front yard and another 2 setting perimiter. Not once, but twice! Threat of jail made the choice to stop obvious.
"What are you in for?"
"I tried to unlock my bootloader." :cyclops:
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I don't know, I think we just need to go to that file that is mentioned in the calibration thread, and whatever values are for the Y axis, just change them to a negative, since according to a video I saw of this issue with 3rd party digitizers in the L90 only the vertical axis is inverted (touch on the left side of the screen, and it registers on the right side). Of course, that is assuming that 0 on the vertical axis is in the middle of the screen. If not, then it will involve a little more math to get stuff right. Shouldn't be too difficult, though.
It's probably too late to suggest this now, but I believe GravityBox or some other Xposed module can remove the emergency call button from the lockscreen.
EDIT: Just checked the /data/data directory and I did not see any touchscreen calibration data folder. I did also read something about these Chinese android tablets coming with a TSCalibration2.apk (TouchScreenCalibration) program, so maybe you need to install that first before you can find the folder since that folder is probably the data for this app. I've had zero luck so far finding a download link for this file. Will report back if I find anything.
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Truly appreciate all the work you are doing trying to help me out. I'm thinking its not going to be fixable. I would contact the seller and return the part, but return shipping to China would probably be more than the phone is even worth. I was even thinking to just put the original screen back on but the double sided tape is basically destroyed. It was only the LCD that was damaged in the sudden stop, the screen didn't crack at all.
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truly appreciate all the work you are doing trying to help me out. I'm thinking its not going to be fixable. I would contact the seller and return the part, but return shipping to china would probably be more than the phone is even worth. I was even thinking to just put the original screen back on but the double sided tape is basically destroyed. It was only the lcd that was damaged in the sudden stop, the screen didn't crack at all.
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I will be updating the OP to show FULL disassembly soon. I need to sort out the pictures and point out some things to watch out for as well as some DEFINATELY DON'T DO THIS items.
The parts that appear functional are availlable for donation, FREE of CHARGE (aside from the cost to ship via USPS flat rate box) to help another, less broken D415, continue life. The lcd assembly is yours if you'd like.
I will include a list of parts for donation in the OP.
Also, if you want to try tinkering around with the screen calibration, here is the TSCalibration2.apk (It is a system app from my VisualLand prestige 7L).
http://1drv.ms/1vrxBoX
Don't toss it to the curb just yet. And the double sided tape is WAY easier to fix than UV glue! Thank you LG for that. I'm seeing low priced OEM glass for the D415 starting to show up on eBay and amazon, as well.
And I still don't know what I'm dong wrong when I try inserting full pics instead of thumbs!
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Oh no, I'm not disassembling it there XD I'm doing it in my room. Just a bad joke on my part... With my luck, I'd have the digitizer laying half-off my desk, and I'd accidentally launch it in the air my hitting my hand on the part off the desk. It would then travel in the perfect arc to the bounce off the hallway wall, enter the restroom, and drop in the "throne" because the lid was left open.
I think some of the screws are actually a bit rounded off, but not to the point of not being able to work with them. That's part of the reason why I'm hesitant to proceed; I don't want to round them off completely because my screwdriver doesn't perfectly fit. I'd greatly appreciate if someone told me the exact screwdriver they used to disassemble this, and maybe where it was bought as well.
If all else fails and something breaks or the screws get rounded off completely, I'll grab a sledgehammer and finish it off. I'll even upload a video of it (and call it "How-To: Quick Disassembly of the L90")
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*Slow Clapping*
Link to screwdriver I used:
http://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Ha...tt-hdx+4+in+1?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5
@whodisname likes the bit set in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56592768&postcount=1037
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jran0880 said:
I will be updating the OP to show FULL disassembly soon. I need to sort out the pictures and point out some things to watch out for as well as some DEFINATELY DON'T DO THIS items.
The parts that appear functional are availlable for donation, FREE of CHARGE (aside from the cost to ship via USPS flat rate box) to help another, less broken D415, continue life. The lcd assembly is yours if you'd like.
I will include a list of parts for donation in the OP.
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Also, if you want to try tinkering around with the screen calibration, here is the TSCalibration2.apk (It is a system app from my VisualLand prestige 7L).
http://1drv.ms/1vrxBoX
Don't toss it to the curb just yet. And the double sided tape is WAY easier to fix than UV glue! Thank you LG for that. I'm seeing low priced OEM glass for the D415 starting to show up on eBay and amazon, as well.
And I still don't know what I'm dong wrong when I try inserting full pics instead of thumbs!
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Thank you for the offer! That is very kind of you, however, the lcd seems to function fine. It's the touchscreen that is wonky. As for the pictures, I use tapatalk, so I only know how to insert via the app which is