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So, I have had my Wing for about a month now...

And I have tried various programs, some registry edits, hacks, etc - and I think I have settled on the configuration that I want.
During that time, i have installed and uninstalled quite a bit of software - some on the SD card and others into memory.
I think, at this point, what I woud like to do is clear storage (or is it hard reset - or are they the same thing?) and then reinstall the apps that I intend to use, making sure that I install things like Battery Saver and HTC_Home in memory, while installing less critical apps like Google Maps back onto the card.
I guess my question is - what, if anything, should I take care to back up - and what is the best way to do it?
It looks like my contacts and appointments will be restored when I reestablish my Exchange Server connection. I assume that anything which is already on the card is safe, but what about apps that are installed on the card - should they be uninstalled prior to the reset and then reinstalled?
I believe I have read that the PagePool hack will survive?
Any tips, tricks, advice that might help prevent this turning into an all-weekend project?
Thanks!

Whats better: installing on sd card or device?

hey everyone,
did a search on google and here but didn't find what i was looking for.
what keeps a ppc faster? installing programs on the device or the storage card?
thanks,
georgios

neavissa said:
hey everyone,
did a search on google and here but didn't find what i was looking for.
what keeps a ppc faster? installing programs on the device or the storage card?
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Personally, program would run faster if it was installed on the device, but to save space....storage card is for that.

It depends on the program and your personal habbits.
If you are one that has multiple memory cards and swaps them in/out or uses wm5torage, I would suggest programs you use often to be installed on the device.
if you're like me and just leave a card in the phone, then either way

i never swap cards. so i guess it doesnt matter huh?

Nah, I install all the important ones onnthe phone and all the ones that are not so important on the SD, right now there are none. I guess Pac Man, Ms. Pac Man, and Dig Dug are important .

With some roms over 140+ mb space, it definitely won't hurt to install your programs to the main memory. Also, I've run into errors and duplicate folders, ect. from installing to the SD Card.

If you install to sd card, you won't loose anything, except registry entries/configuration, after a hard-reset/rom-reflash. I put all my stuff there that I hate restoring.

I install everything to the sd card, only install apps on the phone memory if the program requires it or an app doesn't like running from the sd card.

No its almost the same, if you have an external HDD, then they will show up in controll panel remove programs, and it will be on the desktop, but when you remove the HDD it will be there but wont run.

They way I do it is if the program runs all the time, lets say a complete system overlay like SPB Mobile Shell or PocketPlus, a real system type program I'll install it on the device. But if it's just an app I run once in a while say Google Maps I'll install it on the card because it only runs when I choose to run it..
Hope that helps!
-RT

I do find that programs like mobipocket run much better when I install to the phone. Seems to hang alot from the card. To me it appears that the phone memory has much quicker access time, but not every program is affected.
I think of it more as the difference between a portable app installed on a usb stick versus the same program running off the desktop.

One other thing to consider (at least it was the case with WM2003SE devices) is if the program/util was run at startup, automatically, it made a lot more sense to put it phone memory, as otherwise the delay in waiting for the SD card to be accessible could cause a slowdown/even hangs!

I install the majority of applications onto my 8GB storage card.
However, I've just discovered that whenever I remove my 8GB memory card, my device memory rises incredibly...

I guess it depends on the type of app you're installing. Something like MagiCall I put on the device so there's no problem blocking calls, but Mio Maps right on the memory card with just a shortcut in the /Windows/Startup Programs folder. If the apps important, then device, but if it's just Pac Man for example, card.

Interesting responses. I've installed apps that the instructions say "Must NOT install on SD card" in the instructions. Some say "You may install on SD card, but be aware that it may be unstable".
comments?

ewingr said:
Interesting responses. I've installed apps that the instructions say "Must NOT install on SD card" in the instructions. Some say "You may install on SD card, but be aware that it may be unstable".
comments?
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Thats there for your safety, it means that if you have any data loss of any kind it wont be the applications fault. It may need to be next to the registry but it really doesnt matter. Games and such, SD card, system tools and registry editors may need to be in the main memory but don't have to.

I install applications on the storage card, and Today plugins on the device. The only "Application" I have on my device itself is Slide 2 Unlock.
-Jay

[Q] Critical Storage memory with nothing in it a t all!PLS help!

Hello Everyone!
I'm experiencing an issue with my touch Diamond.
Usually, I put nothing on my storage memory, I put all my data on the Internal storage.so, there should be nthing on the system storage, what means there should be at least 40MBs free outta the 85.but I still get the "Storage memory critically low" message, and all the memory in the storage disappears!
when I connect my device to the PC via ActiveSync, and look up the my device folder (not the 4gb internal), it says I've got no memory free,but when I go into there, select all my files and click "properties",it says theres only 40mbs of data on it, still the 85mb system storage is full!I've tried everything:registry cleaning, removing all the programs, cleaning Opera cache and e-mail attachments, too, still nothing helps but a ROM update!after that everythings OK (for a while), and then starts all over again after a few weeks,and I don't wanna spend every 3rd week with reinstalling the ROM and set all the settings back (yeah I have the backup but still annoying to update ROM every month....:S)
Please,anybody, HELP!!!!

Something that might point you in the right direction ... when you select all the files and check the size, hidden files won't be included. Make sure you have explorer set to show hidden files and system files, or use something like total commander to find them.
Once you find out what is really taking up all the space, hopefully it will lead you to the solution. Sorry I can't suggest something more specific.

I realise this wouldn't help the original poster, but I'm posting this in case it helps others in a similar situation.
Today, for the first time, I got the dreaded 'you are running out of memory' warning and, sure enough, I only had 2MB left on the Storage partition. I only ever install apps to the 4GB Internal Storage partition and all that so there's really no reason why this should've been happening. What tipped me off to the solution was the fact that the only app I'd been using at the time was Opera. So, I tried clearing the Opera cache and, despite the fact it's set to only use 4MB of space, clearing it out reclaimed about 25MB of space in the Storage partition.
So, it would seem there's a bit of a bug there in Opera and I'd advise anyone having storage space issues to try that no matter how little space Opera might claim that it's cache is taking up.

Medulla said:
So, it would seem there's a bit of a bug there in Opera and I'd advise anyone having storage space issues to try that no matter how little space Opera might claim that it's cache is taking up.
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You're a star...!
I couldn't work out why I had lost so much device storage space either...
Just regained a whole 9MB
Not a hell of a lot, but sure explained half of my problem...!

I ran out of memory - now WM wont load
I had those critical memory messages. did a hard reset, and now my diamond won't restart. it hangs on the windows mobile 6.1 screen.
any tips?
I can get into bootloader mode. is my only option to flash a new ROM?
tks.

With the latest SKTools (if you don't wanna edit the registry) it's easy to move the Opera cache to the internal 4 gig storage instead.

issues after ROM upgrade to 2.03.x

Hi,
I've upgraded my Diamond recently to HTC's official 2.03.407.2 GER ROM.
Since then I have some issues I haven't had with 1.93 before:
1. the device seems to go online w/o any (known) reason (all the automatic stuff for emails or weather is disabled to manual updating
2. the device doesn't go offline when the network access finished anymore
with 1.93 it immediately went offline when the weather data was updated or the mail account was read. Now it seems to stay online until I close the connection in the comm-manager.
3. my TF3D music player doesn't work anymore. It only shows the preshipped music examples and can't even play the stuff. Manually added songs are missing completely. The Windows Media Player works correctly and displays all songs. AudioManager_Eng crashes quite often also (like almost every time I open it)
One thing I have to note is that I used Sprite Backup to restore my data after the ROM upgrade. I'm not sure if that restored configuration data which is not compatible with the new ROM anymore.
Any hints for me about these issues?
Thanks,
Wolfgang

Perform a hard reset, and then test for these issues again before restoring your Sprite backup.

Actually that was what I've tried to avoid.
Given that everything works then I won't be able to restore my old data then. I can live with that as long as I can get back my contacts.
To backup my contacts I only need pim.vol copied somewhere? Could someone confirm that. (And I guess the internal storage is safe from a hard reset?)

worosen said:
Actually that was what I've tried to avoid.
Given that everything works then I won't be able to restore my old data then. I can live with that as long as I can get back my contacts.
To backup my contacts I only need pim.vol copied somewhere? Could someone confirm that. (And I guess the internal storage is safe from a hard reset?)
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Yes, pim.vol contains everything to do with contacts and calls. Look at the uc.zip file in my signature.

Hey,
I'm having issues with the music player as well... Seems any large playlists cause the phone to crash before it can change song... Ideas?

Hi,
try 2.03.407.3 GER ROM
Official Download from HTC
They changed it silently
I installed this Rom and some Bug's like Notice in Background and TF3D Crashes seems to be fixes.

Files disappeared,

Yes, I know how to use google, yes, I tried many things now and I don't know where else to look for help so I'm asking here, a place with many smart heads full of ideas.
I was doing pretty normal thing on my phone this morning, just trying to copy all the files from internal memory onto the PC. Of course I couldn't do that thanks to "Unspecified error" during copying some of the folders, including Downloads and DCIM. I managed to copy only some of the files from internal storage. I thought a reboot might help. And so the nightmare began. All the other files I wanted to copy disappeared from gallery and Total Commander. They must be on the phone though, as there is something on the phone that uses 2gb of memory. I did not delete them, the system just fails to see them. I already tried deleting all the ".nomedia" files, clearing cache and data from Media Storage app, disabling it, rebooting and enabling again but it was of no use. I'm helpless and I don't know what to do, why did android even do this? I lost a lot of photos and images and I'm really upset about that. Any ideas what to do? The phone is not rooted, never played with software in it, it's updated to 5.1

Download any File Manager from Play Store, check if the files are on the phone memory. If not, well, they are somehow lost. Maybe you cut-paste them onto your PC, and the files were deleted, but you got an 'unspecified error' on moving.

Thanks a lot for a response. I use Total Commander on every android phone I had, I can see that my files look like they disappeared completely, android just generated empty generic folders ("Pictures etc) after I cut off the previous folders along with their content so I saved a little bit that I could. On the other hand something is occupying 2gb of data but the phone refuses to show what, so there is a chance my files are there. After copying the whole content of the phone to the folder on desktop it just shows it weight few hundreds KB. I'll be trying to use some recovery software for android. The question is how did this happen at all? It had no right to happen, what if this happened to someone who has completely no idea about that stuff? Who's to blame and who's responsible for helping such a person? Motorola? Google? Anyway, this is the last phone with no micro-sd card slot I used. A memory card is the best backup

You COULD recover your files even if they were deleted if Android still had a mass storage mode. I don't think any of the data recovery softwares play nice with the MTP transfer that android offers. Of course, the SD card is infinitely better, but a rarity these days. I am sorry for your lost data. You seem like you did everything within your reach to get it back.
EDIT: Just to be sure, did you cut-paste the folders on your PC from phone, or just copy-paste. It might be possible for files to be deleted in cut-paste, if some error occurs in copy.

Thanks for contributing. It seems Google knows better then any of us what we need and there's no more Mass Storage option which gives free access to memory. Unfortunately I don't have that option. First I ensured which files are not affected by error by trying to copy them folder after folder. Then there were left files I couldn't copy, it was DCIM with most recent photos (unfortunately) and download where I kept lots of images with cool infographics found on the internet. I thought a reboot would help to get access to them and you know the rest. Files were there no longer. I'm seriously considering switching to Windows Phone, it seem it's too much to ask for a phone that just "werks" nowadays...I have a painful lesson to use memory card as well as cloud synchronizing but didn't give up yet, still trying anything I can I also wrote to Motorola with help request but I don't think they'll help me any better than people here, although it's more their responsibility to fix that stuff, the phone is barely 6 months old.