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How close do you have to be to Wifi t mobile Hotspot to use wifi?

How close do you have to be to a wifi spot to get speeds quicker than normal web and walk on T Mobile UK?
Also, is there a difference in speeds for customers who have web and walk and web and walk plus? Whats the difference in speeds if you connect your laptop to the internet with the two of these via internet sharing?

Internet Sharing - Bad Connectivity

I’m here on the coast at Keesler Air Force base. There is no internet to speak of and I do not want to spend roughly $1,400 to obtain it through a Cell provider for my laptop. I setup the Internet Sharing on my TILT and it works somewhat. Well, I lied. It stays “connected” however the damn thing peers off and the laptop continuously loses connectivity.
I only use Skype and sometimes webmail with the Internet Sharing and it cannot handle it. Every minute, sometimes up to six minutes, Skype videocalls and standard webcalls are dropped and I test the internet connection to see that it’s timing out for another minute or so and then it magically reappears.
I closed all applications and the antivirus crap to ensure that there was no extra throughput bandwidth. Anyway, I’m about to lose my damn mind here because I cannot stay in contact with my fiancée who’s on the other side of the globe right now.
According to the phone I’m only getting the Edge network and that makes sense as there are not 3G towers nearby. The signal continually shifts from two bars to four bars. I have used the Kraiser Tweak to enable HDSPA but that service is not being picked up.
Any ideas as to how I can keep the connectivity from dropping between the cellphone and the laptop? I assume that’s the issue as the phone stays “Status: connected” within the Internet Sharing application.
If it matters, I can only use the "Media Net" option under Network Connections. Media Net utilizes the wap.cingular access point.
I have tried to use the "ATT ISP GPRS" option but it continually loops through attempts to connect to the internet. Eventually it gives up without any success. The ATT ISP GPRS uses the isp.cingular access point.
Please any assistance would be most appreciated. This United States Airman is about to lose is frigging mind over the fact that he can’t communicate with anyone any longer. Ugh!!!
Thanks to any thoughts and advice to better my situation...
Oh and for the record, if it isn't understood being a Tilt, my provider is ATT.

HSDPA will not work without 3G service. MEdia Net is the best way to tether, I use it all the time. Make sure the proxy option is unchecked, or you will get very poor speeds and high latency.

What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.

crypted said:
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
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You mentioned HSDPA, so that's why I said it. As for ATT ISP GPRS, you do not want to use that unless you have a modem tethering option on your AT&T account. If you go under MEdia Net settings, and then check the Proxy tab, make sure the proxy option is unchecked.

Allrighty, I've confirmed that the Proxy is not enabled. The only thing on the Proxy option section that is enabled is the first option where it says this network connects to the internet.
Any ideas on stabilizing internet on a 2 - 3 bar Edge network? If I do more than one task (more than one website OR a website and Skype) the internet gets lost quite easily...
Thanks a lot man.

Wow when I was over that way I dont recall have any issues with ATT and internet. When I access the net while tethered I use the ATT program that connects via laptop... Its not the internet sharing program.... Its called ATT Communication Manager... It may read as being tethered so if you dont have tethering on your plan then I dont know if id use it. If you have tethering it works great for me. Heres a link for the download...
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt

You might want to try flashing another rom and radio. I remember I had an issue similar to this with my hermes from ATT. Swapping to another radio can definitely boost your signal quality. If your signal drops too low even for a second, it can cause major latency issues on the edge network( which WILL cause skype to dop a call ) . I recommend trying a ROM that already has a radio packaged in with it to save you the trouble of having to match a radio to a rom. Also look for one that has the network configuration cab built in so it can automatically set up your Connection settings for you.
Hope this helps

Allrighty... I don't have much time to research ROMS or RADIOS unfortunately. Any suggestions on where to find them, or what I might use? I'd almost prefer just to change RADIOS so long as I can find the original RADIO to replace any changes back to what I was using...
Currently, I have:
ROM 1.62.502.0
RADIO 1.27.14.09
Any help to further this US Airman along would be appreciated.
Thanks.

AP Mode

Anyone have a clue, how to get this working in the hero? Adhoc just doesn't cut it.

not going to happen, the hardware does not support it.
what device or os won't join ad hoc? Ive even had ipod touch's joined to my ad hoc hero wifi network. I know windows, mac and linux will all join ad hoc too, so wtf?

Low cost Android tablets are having a lot of trouble joining ad hoc.

Ps3, or other phones

Psp! And yeah, other phones wont connect to ad-hocs either. But not being able to use game consoles is a major buzzkill.
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DSL Internet? I know you already pay for your data but come on, gaming on it? Or are you counting on the lagginess to get you better KDR on mw2?

animal7296 said:
DSL Internet? I know you already pay for your data but come on, gaming on it? Or are you counting on the lagginess to get you better KDR on mw2?
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Only people who have played that sad campfest they call a game would understand how funny this comment is.

Gaming on evdo is ridiculous, but if you must do it you could always just use a pc/netbook/laptop to share the wireless connection over wired Ethernet to the console.
tethered internet from a hero is tolerable but I couldn't imagine trying to use it as a primary/only internet connection for any length of time.
why would you connect other phones to a wifi tether? each phone should already have a data plan so i don't get the point..

ipfreelytech said:
Gaming on evdo is ridiculous, but if you must do it you could always just use a pc/netbook/laptop to share the wireless connection over wired Ethernet to the console.
tethered internet from a hero is tolerable but I couldn't imagine trying to use it as a primary/only internet connection for any length of time.
why would you connect other phones to a wifi tether? each phone should already have a data plan so i don't get the point..
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Yeah its pretty obvious you don't.
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I have been able to setup my Linksys WRT54G with dd-wrt firmware flashed and have it use my phone's data and broadcast it through the router. The router is not inadhoc mode. I had to keep tweaking with all the settings to get it to work like I wanted. There are 2 reasons that I would not do it on a regular basis, especially if you are trying to play networked games.
1. The phone becomes really hot if you do not have it in front of a fan and can fry your phone
2. The download speed may be intermediate depending on where you are and the time of day, but the upload speeds can be very slow. Considering a majority of gamers have 6Mbs down and somewhere around 512Kbs - 1Mb up you will be falling behind.

bandwidth hog solution

is there a solution to the bandwidth hogging CC? i have 30mbps and my internet literally become unusable when someone is using chromecast to stream netflix/youtube. all my webpages dont show up, thats how bad it is. im also on xfinity and MUST use their router since i have phone and cable. the router wont let me change any settings.

In theory you could root it, SSH into it and limit the wifi datarate.

You shouldn't have that problem with streaming to the Chromecast. Even HD video streaming wouldn't take up a fraction of your internet bandwidth. For example a Netflix HD stream takes about 5.5 mbps. We routinely stream internet video to the Chromecast while downloading and browsing web pages on a 16 mbps connection, and there is no interruption to the video stream nor any delay in loading web pages.
Are the devices you are using for web browsing on WiFi? If so then WiFi bandwidth is more likely to be the problem. In that case you might need to move your xfinity router or invest in a better router of your own.

x3shift said:
is there a solution to the bandwidth hogging CC? i have 30mbps and my internet literally become unusable when someone is using chromecast to stream netflix/youtube. all my webpages dont show up, thats how bad it is. im also on xfinity and MUST use their router since i have phone and cable. the router wont let me change any settings.
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It is more likely your router that is the problem not the Streaming of the CCast or limits of the Internet connection.
Depending on your router you can usually give priority to various computers and port traffic.
Some call it Media priority, Others more properly call it QoS...
What you want to do is give port 80 traffic priority and that should solve your web page issues without affecting the stream in any significant way.

Unfortunately he has one of those locked-down routers provided by the ISP that doesn't let you access settings like QoS. But in any case, it's unlikely to be a priority problem in the router with the kind of usage he is talking about.

need to be able to tweak router settings, network mode, channel, channel width, security mode etc to get best perfromance.

DJames1 said:
You shouldn't have that problem with streaming to the Chromecast. Even HD video streaming wouldn't take up a fraction of your internet bandwidth. For example a Netflix HD stream takes about 5.5 mbps. We routinely stream internet video to the Chromecast while downloading and browsing web pages on a 16 mbps connection, and there is no interruption to the video stream nor any delay in loading web pages.
Are the devices you are using for web browsing on WiFi? If so then WiFi bandwidth is more likely to be the problem. In that case you might need to move your xfinity router or invest in a better router of your own.
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All the other devices are running on wifi. Actually im the only one browsing the internet while cc is being used. Internet becomes unusable, webpage wont load. The router is closer to me than to the cc. I cannot invest in a different router because noone makes routers that use phone and cable together thats why im forced to use ****ty comcast router.

DJames1 said:
Unfortunately he has one of those locked-down routers provided by the ISP that doesn't let you access settings like QoS. But in any case, it's unlikely to be a priority problem in the router with the kind of usage he is talking about.
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Ahhh no wonder he is having issues! LOL
x3shift said:
All the other devices are running on wifi. Actually im the only one browsing the internet while cc is being used. Internet becomes unusable, webpage wont load. The router is closer to me than to the cc. I cannot invest in a different router because noone makes routers that use phone and cable together thats why im forced to use ****ty comcast router.
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You don't have to replace the ISP provided router at all...(You would be hard pressed to find a router that did Phone anyway)
You could use any Wireless router you wanted but you would have to call your ISP and tell them you need them to put their provided router into Bridge mode (they will do it for you trust me you just have to be insistent). Then your current router would pass a Public IP to whatever router you connect to it and you would have complete control over your router and network settings.

Your problem certainly seems to be related to WiFi bandwidth. You could try moving your ISP's router - sometimes even a few feet can make a big difference in WiFi reception. But you can probably do a lot better using your own router.
You don't even have to put the ISP router in bridge mode. My current ISP gives me a combined modem+router where the router section is also locked down in certain ways, and they won't allow bridging. I just attach my own router as a device on the ISP router's LAN, put it in the DMZ so that all ports get passed through, and turn off the WiFi on the ISP router and use my own router's WiFi. You don't even have to disable the ISP router's WiFi really if you aren't using it.

fixing what ails ya - WiFi vs LTE

we've found the WiFi Calling and related SMS here is the states to be lacking.
Had T-Mo send me a 4G LTE Cellspot that connects to the interwebs.
Took about 20 mins to set itself up.
Bam!
5 bars all through the house and probably half way down the block.
Much mo better.

I just got one of them too. Much better than wifi calling. No airwaves competing for the available bandwidth. Have had much clearer calls and reliable texting. Plus I don't have to give out my wifi password to visitors, they just automatically connect to the cellspot.
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Harmtan2 said:
I just got one of them too. Much better than wifi calling. No airwaves competing for the available bandwidth. Have had much clearer calls and reliable texting. Plus I don't have to give out my wifi password to visitors, they just automatically connect to the cellspot.
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haven't tried it with other providers that guests bring, but I figured LTE is LTE. So you have found that it works with other providers VzW, and them other 2?

Did you have to do anything to your home router?? I got one of these a few days ago and for the life of me I can't seem to find out what's wrong with mine as it doesn't work.

I think you have to bridge the two...

out of your incoming router, usually a yellow LAN port, to the in of the LTE cellspot, WAN green port.
Power it up and wait. I used the GPS antenna to get it moving faster. 20 mins. If at first it doesn't connect, reboot the cellspot and try again.
But unless there was something done to your incoming FiOS or Comcast or whoever on install, that should be it.

I have a Westell 7500 DSL router from Verizon, The LTE cellspot, and a Netgear r6400 wireless router.
The way I have things setup is:
My Netgear router is plugged into the LAN port on the cellspot, and the cellspot WAN is plugged into the Westell router on first ethernet port.
I turned off the firewall on my DSL router so the UDP ports are not being blocked. The only thing left that I can do on my side is setup bridge mode.
I also turned off the wireless broadcast from the Westell router.

esjames said:
I have a Westell 7500 DSL router from Verizon, The LTE cellspot, and a Netgear r6400 wireless router.
The way I have things setup is:
My Netgear router is plugged into the LAN port on the cellspot, and the cellspot WAN is plugged into the Westell router on first ethernet port.
I turned off the firewall on my DSL router so the UDP ports are not being blocked. The only thing left that I can do on my side is setup bridge mode.
I also turned off the wireless broadcast from the Westell router.
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westell wireless should have no effect, nor the firewall as I believe that is OEM install.
I would think that both the cellspot and Netgear should be plugged into a yellow LAN port on the Westell.
Perhaps the passthru of the Netgear on the cellspot is messing with the cellspots head.
Try that config and reboot your westell, then the cellspot.
I do use the passthur on my cellspot to an Ooma box and have no issue. Dunno why a router would be any different, but give it a try.
Also perhaps 2 other ports on the westell. I believe there are 4 yellow LAN ports on it.
Then there is this, which I'd think T-Mo would have covered with you before they sent you the cellspot.
Is there a minimum internet speed requirement for T-Mobile 4G LTE CellSpot?
Minimum internet speeds of 2Mbps downlink and 512Kbps uplink are recommended.
So you should check you DSL speed.
http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
http://speedtest.net/
http://www2.verizon.net/micro/speedtest/hsi/
http://myspeed.visualware.com/servers/nyc.html
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/
http://www.voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx
http://www.testmy.net/tools/
http://speedof.me/
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

metropical said:
haven't tried it with other providers that guests bring, but I figured LTE is LTE. So you have found that it works with other providers VzW, and them other 2?
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No, it will not work for other providers. Just for TMO. It creates VPN back to tmo with the same authentication methods of regular towers. That would be cool. If it could double up for other others.
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Well, I don't care so much for WiFi calling but for internet, my 5GHz WiFi network connection averages 125 Mbps and that's because of the phone hardware. My line gets 300 Mbps.

Those dippy-do's (explicit words) at t-mobile never activated my cell spot till 2 days ago. Now everything is working normal.

Did the cell spot cost you any money? I live right between the edges of two towers, and while I get 50-70mbps two miles down the road, at my neighborhood it is terrible. Calls drop, data is slow, etc. Wifi calling can be great when it works, but it rarely works for more than 10 minutes straight.

willbur73 said:
Did the cell spot cost you any money? I live right between the edges of two towers, and while I get 50-70mbps two miles down the road, at my neighborhood it is terrible. Calls drop, data is slow, etc. Wifi calling can be great when it works, but it rarely works for more than 10 minutes straight.
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There is a $25 refundable deposit, and this thing works much better than wifi calling.