In case anybody's interested - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

New Google Search today plug-in. I know you can use Kaiser Tweak to search with Google instead of Windows Live Search, but Google just made this available for WM users.
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/google-search-plug-in-for-windows-mobile/

Works pretty good too. I just installed it. The only issue I have is that when you tap the options soft key, tap google home, it soes not automatically sign you in.

the last google app i put on my kaiser, killed it, I will be avoiding google apps from now on.

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Real google apps in market all!!

Finally some real apps! Scoreboard that keeps track of all sports and picasa album that you can upload photos into. Loving it they both kick butt!!
there is a new one from Google for maps as well, Google maps editor. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it integrates into the map program- I cant pull up stuff I have pinned in the ap with the normal maps program.
I guess the thing I need to learn about android is that we dont really seem to have any plug-ins, just new programs to work alongside the current ones. It seems like google would have an extension, or plug-in that would work WITH maps.
I think Google rolling out a couple apps this late in the game is laughable. Personally, it seems like they've expected the advanced user to do it themselves and they're rolling out apps to appeal to the sidekick end of the spectrum. Anyone locked out of root at this point is feeling pretty butthurt I can imagine. Don't give me a scoreboard app, give me an application that will let me save apps to my sdcard. I can imagine if the latter isn't worked out, it could cause some frustration when they begin to charge for apps; i.e. hard reset= bye bye apps I paid for.
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They probably have larger treams to work on the big stuff, like root. I think, more likeley that these are some of the "personal projects" Google employees are expected to work on.
As far as the hard reset issue, I expect that the market will keep a record of what you paid for so you can download things again as needed.
The My Maps Editor (which I can't find on the market???) is shown as that Google staff member's 20% work time. So while it;s released by Google, it's not actually an allocated Google Project.
Also, I'd say the Picasa app is a "plug-in" not an actual 'side-by-side' app.
gospeed.racer said:
there is a new one from Google for maps as well, Google maps editor. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it integrates into the map program- I cant pull up stuff I have pinned in the ap with the normal maps program.
I guess the thing I need to learn about android is that we dont really seem to have any plug-ins, just new programs to work alongside the current ones. It seems like google would have an extension, or plug-in that would work WITH maps.
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Yeah i hear you, its hard after all these years of being a wm user not to call them plugins. Will have to check out the maps editor one didn't even see it. If it doesn't work with maps then kinda defeats the purpose!
stats555 said:
Finally some real apps! Scoreboard that keeps track of all sports and picasa album that you can upload photos into. Loving it they both kick butt!!
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It's just a name of developer. You can register a company name when register an develop account.
Well, even if "Google, inc" isn't the real Google, they have by far the most polished looking and working apps of anyone else listed in the market that I have seen yet. I dont even need or use Scoreboard, but I still downloaded it and I am very impressed with the workings. Good for impressing friends

Google Maps - adding markers

Is there no way at all to add markers on a map in Google Maps ?
My Nokia's and SE's could do this and considering Google write the OS, you'd think that any Android handset would have the best version of its most popular app.
Their Map editor app is rubbish. Can't even position you on the map, you have to do this manually.
Are there any apps that will do this with Google Maps as I'd like to mark a hotel location in Amsterdam and then be able to get routing info back to it... I always get lost in Amsterdam for some reason
It seems Google Maps on Hero doesn't support this feature, which is a shame I think...
I used to have a Windows Mobile device, on which I can save a map location (or search result) as Favorite in Google Maps.
My maps editor from google does this job. Since they are saved in your account, you can access them from pc using google maps as well. In windows mobile, you can see your maps as a layer but as far as I remember it is read only. The android app lets you add/modify existing ones. The points you can save in WM were stored locally in the device and not available online.
http://androidcommunity.com/my-maps-editor-by-google-puts-your-custom-maps-in-your-pocket-20081215/
Problem is, you cannot display those markers in Google Maps and then select one to navigate to.
Surely marking your position is pretty basic stuff and has been possible for years on non Google OS handsets.
Bloody silly in my book.
A simple way to add markers surely can't be that hard for those at the Googleplex ?
You'd think Maps was the same on any platform, but appears to be knobbled on some and full featured on others.
You can use the My Maps editor to mark you stop or add points. You will need to open your map in My Maps and from there you can choose to get directions to the location. Also, HTC has put the Footprints app which solves this problem. Simply create a new footprint with the widget or app (add picture, description if you want) and then just select which footprint you want directions to.
both pretty much do the same thing, but you need to use those apps (My Maps or Footprints) instead of Google Maps. As you mentioned, google maps for nokia supports adding markers. the Wm version does the same as well. I'm not sure why Google chose to include it in a seperate app instead of all in one.
If you have not used footprints, it's a whole lot of fun. I've used it to mark my friends houses, work, and some great restaurants. directions are always just one click away.
Ah, cool tips thx. Bit of a faffy implementation, but will give this a go.
Never bothered with Footprints TBH, always used to using one app (Google Maps).
Mind you, with no way to back up data with any of the HTC apps, updating firmware will be a royal pain once Footprints has been used a number of times.
I got round it by adding a location as a contact and then using the Find Work feature.
Again a pain and no where near as useful as Google Maps should be on Google's own platform.
I am using Google Maps.. My Maps and Google Tracks..
They are pretty cool and the tracks app is great for cycling.
You have to wonder why this isnt all in one app though.
I have found that just using My Maps is fine tho.. and as stated above you can add markers and stuff to your hearts content
A simple marker in Google Maps so you can request navigation by foot is all I need... a pain to use multiple applications for something that already in Maps on other platforms.

Few More Questions

Before the flaming, I have read and searched many threads before posting.
Reading over the manual:
1. Can you select / Install google maps instead of bing maps like on HD2?
2. If not on Bing maps, does your location auto move as you move, similar to GPS?
3. Never used Zune, does it allow you to sync contacts? not important just interesting to know.
4. For those who have synced to google calendar, is it smooth and fully function? or have you noticed issues?
5. Reading about SRS, many say you have to install an app, according to manual, its in the HTC hub section already installed? which one do we use?
6. Not sure where but I read that future updates will be done auto and not force your phone to be reset to factory default like we currently do with HD2, can this be confirmed? any one know ?
I hate doing updates on HD2, having to re-sync and recreate email accounts and settings, if they do updates without having to reset to factory, such as the new Droid OS does, would be a very easy way to function.
Thank you in advance.
rysky007 said:
Before the flaming, I have read and searched many threads before posting.
Reading over the manual:
1. Can you select / Install google maps instead of bing maps like on HD2?
2. If not on Bing maps, does your location auto move as you move, similar to GPS?
3. Never used Zune, does it allow you to sync contacts? not important just interesting to know.
4. For those who have synced to google calendar, is it smooth and fully function? or have you noticed issues?
5. Reading about SRS, many say you have to install an app, according to manual, its in the HTC hub section already installed? which one do we use?
6. Not sure where but I read that future updates will be done auto and not force your phone to be reset to factory default like we currently do with HD2, can this be confirmed? any one know ?
I hate doing updates on HD2, having to re-sync and recreate email accounts and settings, if they do updates without having to reset to factory, such as the new Droid OS does, would be a very easy way to function.
Thank you in advance.
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1. Currently, only Bing maps is available on the phone, as all primary mapping services also only use Bing (so far). I have yet to come across any apps that use Google Maps, yet.
2. If an application uses the GPS regardless of whether it is using Bing, or Google, or neither, it works the same way where it tracks your location... hence the point of GPS.
3. Zune is for syncing media only at this point. It does not sync your Outlook/Windows/desktop contacts, and currently there is no 'official' way of doing this. Windows Phone 7 relies heavily on the cloud and Exchange server services (Windows Live, Gmail, etc.)
4. Using Google Calendar on the phone is rather simple and straightforward, aside from the limitation that Windows Phone 7 can only currently see your primary calendar only.
5. The SRS and Dolby sound enhancements are HTC-device specific only. You would download the application from the HTC Hub on the Marketplace, which you can only see if you are browsing the Marketplace on an HTC device.
6. Updates are pushed by Microsoft, and not necessarily the carrier (but certainly possible). You are correct that they work more as patches to the system rather than requiring full system re-installs.
I should add that, having been through the hard-reset process recently, getting the phone back to how I had it was fairly straight forward, although there were a couple of time-consuming things:
- set up APN (not needed if you're using an operator-locked phone with the operator's SIM)
- set up WiFi
- Enter Windows Live login details
- Enter Gmail login details
- Enter Facebook details
- Link Gmail contacts with Facebook ones -- most are done for you, but I had about 15 I had to manually link out of 250 contacts.
- Redownload apps. Apparently if you get the apps via Zune Desktop, this happens for you when you resync, but if you've bought/downloaded them via Marketplace, you have to manually redownload.
The bold steps were the time consuming ones. I also lost all saved games, which is frustrating.
Guys thank you for the great and fast responses.
Still a bit confused on the SRS, so is it an app that comes with the phone already? or one we need to get from Market Place?
Also forgot one main question I wanted to ask...
Does WP7 have or need Task Killer?
I know on Droid u have to dl the app,
WM6 came with it
Wm7? dont see any were in manual, do I assume that this new OS actually shuts things down when u close them like it should?
Thanks.
WP7 puts apps to sleep effectively - I can't remember the term they use off hand, but when you navigate away, if the app doesn't ask you if you want to exit, then it will save the state - dehydrated I think is the term! - so it's no longer running in the background. Then when you go back to it, it's rehydrated.
So no task killer.
rob_p said:
WP7 puts apps to sleep effectively - I can't remember the term they use off hand, but when you navigate away, if the app doesn't ask you if you want to exit, then it will save the state - dehydrated I think is the term! - so it's no longer running in the background. Then when you go back to it, it's rehydrated.
So no task killer.
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Not bad, glad to see them follow nokias foot steps on this one.
I hated having task killer but then again its nice to see what is running in back round and bring up a app or process via that as well.
double edge sword i guess
rysky007 said:
Guys thank you for the great and fast responses.
Still a bit confused on the SRS, so is it an app that comes with the phone already? or one we need to get from Market Place?
Thanks.
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The app does not come with the phone. The phones do come with HTC Hub though, and through that application, you can view all the other HTC apps, including the Sound Enhancer one, and download it through there. It is also available through the Marketplace (HTC Hub just basically links you to the Marketplace for its downloads).

Android Auto V2.1.7 has a selection menu for...alternative navigation app

Yesterday the Android Auto app V2.1.7 was released. So far there was a selection menu only for the streaming and music apps available. This pull down menue is now available at the navigation button as well. Pressing it pushes Google maps to a menu bar. Probably Waze is the alternative navigation app which will be selectable there. Hopefully other navigation apps will be available soon. I would like to use here, Navmii and so on.
Regards
Tom
It would be nice to have Tomtom, as it's the only one with decent traffic info where I live.
But on my play store I still see the old version. I guess 2.1.7 hasn't made it everywhere?
crótach said:
But on my play store I still see the old version. I guess 2.1.7 hasn't made it everywhere?
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My phone just got it a few minutes ago.
Let be honest though, the only options will be Google Maps and Waze (which Google also owns).
They've been talking about adding Waze for almost a year and I'll bet it turns out to be too hard to let other developers add their own apps.
Google really doesn't want developers doing their own UI's in the car because they believe they are the only ones that can make them safe.
Let's see. To have this jump shortcut means Google provides further API's fo other navigation apps. As an alternative to Waze I would like to see here and Navmii o AA. If this should become successful, Google must open it for other non Google apps as well.
Noticed the little arrow as well. Let's see what will come. I doubt that there will alternative apps.
leonkernan said:
My phone just got it a few minutes ago.
Google really doesn't want developers doing their own UI's in the car because they believe they are the only ones that can make them safe.
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Make them safe... oh yes by ridiculous bad UIs (instead of having simple tiles to hear let's say a podcast I am forced to click multiple hierarchies of menus instead of a single click)
Make them safe by forcing me to scroll many time to get a traffic overview because Maps occupies with half of the screen with idiotic turn instructions even if next 50km there are no turns.
Make them safe by forcing me to replug USB every 5 mins after crash
I noticed the arrow too and got excited, then clicked on it to find google maps as the only option.
I hope soundcloud isnt far away either

Android Auto & Google maps search: it's now annoying

Apparently Google did an update a short while ago. Ever since, when using Android Auto and Google Maps, I might need to search for something. So I hit the mic button, and tell it what I want. And now it MUST talk to me, and I don't want it to. I want it to shut up.
I have the settings to mute, but that doesn't seem to matter. Is there some new setting where I can disable this "feature" they added?

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