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let me continue what the title of this threat say:
what if.......I was to release a new rom, a new Touch-IT for Heralds
What would you like to see in it?
And please be reasonable, im no magician
Teaser images:

Hey, man. Merry Christmas.
What would I like in it? Too long of a list... that's why I started making my own. lol
Do you still have a Herald to test things out with? I'd love your opinion on my CleanROM/BluePad.
But anyways, I can't say what I'd want, since I'm already making it. lol
Good to see you, though.

yep i got my herald, I have problem letting it go its a good device, so im holding it back...

itje said:
yep i got my herald, I have problem letting it go its a good device, so im holding it back...
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It's good to know I'm not the only one with an emotional attachment to my phone. LOL
Try out my CleanROM and tell me what you think. It's not the prettiest but I was aiming for speed and a stable ROM with no bugs before actually cooking the apps.

Vista compatibility, big memory, lots of free ram. I think thats a good base, and then let people add all of their bell and whistles themselves.....
Oh and by the way, Ivan, the bluepad is running quite nicely!

perhaps...
perhaps if there are not enough herald users that respond, another wing release would be nice. if you are willing to supply, but the demand is low for heralds, might as well switch the supply to the high demand of wing users. just my 2 cents -and i would really appreciate it.
then i could choose between open touch 2.0 and touch it 2.4 (or however you choose to do your versions numbering).

That´s perfect, please find out together what are the difference between Heraldrom and wingrom - then everybody would be able to get the rom he wants.
That would be a christmas present.
Nice days for you and enjoy some free time!!!!!
BTW: I would like a clean rom only with
HTC Home
HTCActionscreen
Totalcommander
classikblack.tsk
Todayagenda
TCPMP
Fast and 30mb ram
btw i prefer batterystatus - it is bigger but better than omapplus
ivanmmj said:
It's good to know I'm not the only one with an emotional attachment to my phone. LOL
Try out my CleanROM and tell me what you think. It's not the prettiest but I was aiming for speed and a stable ROM with no bugs before actually cooking the apps.
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papamopps said:
That´s perfect, please find out together what are the difference between Heraldrom and wingrom - then everybody would be able to get the rom he wants.
That would be a christmas present.
Nice days for you and enjoy some free time!!!!!
BTW: I would like a clean rom only with
HTC Home
HTCActionscreen
Totalcommander
classikblack.tsk
Todayagenda
TCPMP
Fast and 30mb ram
btw i prefer batterystatus - it is bigger but better than omapplus
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not unlikly that some stuff there will be included.
And I agree, BS is a better app then omap.
But when the rom is released, I dont want to hear any complaints on what is left out and w/e is in the rom, cause all have diffrent needs.
But I will try to clean out all "scrap" that consume to much of memory.
And that will be in.ex:
Internetsharing
Live
Update
Transcriber
gif files
ringtones
mms templates
picture samples
video samples
and so on

Nice to hear the possibility of you creating a much needed and clean herald rom. IF you were to create a clean rom, I would definitely like the (1) Quick menu (2)HTC Actionscreen, (3) Totalcommander, (4)classikblack.tsk, (5) batterystatus, and (6) touch flo.
Also to add - I like the "Extra" and the "Office Mobile" folders (and what they included) that were included in the Touch-It version 3, as well.

Quickmenu is not a option, but im sure you can use a cab

that's fantastic news if you are going to go ahead with it, over and above what you have included before I would love to see included;
rss hub, htc large start menu and titlebar, htc action menu, tcpmp with the youtube plugins, WM5torage, and WinRAR instead of the zip app, adobe reader le, jbed java (instead of midlet manager).
Also I saw in somebody elses ROM that they have included fax viewer in their office setup, would love that.
Obviously I understand that everybody wants different things, but I think all herald users would appreciate an update of any type. Keep up the good work!

robosiris said:
Nice to hear the possibility of you creating a much needed and clean herald rom. IF you were to create a clean rom, I would definitely like the (1) Quick menu (2)HTC Actionscreen, (3) Totalcommander, (4)classikblack.tsk, (5) batterystatus, and (6) touch flo.
Also to add - I like the "Extra" and the "Office Mobile" folders (and what they included) that were included in the Touch-It version 3, as well.
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If he's making a Wing ROM, then there's already a clean ROM... if he's making a Herald ROM, he can just use my Base and change the keymap.

lmao, no offence....
but why would I bother to release a rom cooked on other ppls work?
When releasing a new rom now, its a brand new base/build. Not anything I or other have built before

ah it will be based of the windows 6.1???
hehe
and of course there will be complains about: why didn´t you? and why did you?
that is human beeing.....
never to agree with someone else work.
i REALLY tested alot for anichillus and other gys from wizard forum. and i know some facts - but i never released a rom: because it is such a hard work and then - you get no THANKS
no donations - o k - but no real thanks without any discussion = that´s not possible in a world where you can get illegal roms for free which are WAY WAY better than microseft ever will release.
I thank you for your good work and i will test everything _ but i will BEVER ask you: why didn´t you.......
because it is YOUR work, YOUR choice and OUR CHANCE to test it for free.
and if we like it : to say THANK YOU!!!
itje said:
lmao, no offence....
but why would I bother to release a rom cooked on other ppls work?
When releasing a new rom now, its a brand new base/build. Not anything I or other have built before
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papamopps said:
ah it will be based of the windows 6.1???
hehe
and of course there will be complains about: why didn´t you? and why did you?
that is human beeing.....
never to agree with someone else work.
i REALLY tested alot for anichillus and other gys from wizard forum. and i know some facts - but i never released a rom: because it is such a hard work and then - you get no THANKS
no donations - o k - but no real thanks without any discussion = that´s not possible in a world where you can get illegal roms for free which are WAY WAY better than microseft ever will release.
I thank you for your good work and i will test everything _ but i will BEVER ask you: why didn´t you.......
because it is YOUR work, YOUR choice and OUR CHANCE to test it for free.
and if we like it : to say THANK YOU!!!
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Nicely put, I wish there were more people on this fourm like yourself.

ttran001 said:
Nicely put, I wish there were more people on this fourm like yourself.
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youst my 2 cents.
thanks

papamopps said:
ah it will be based of the windows 6.1???
hehe
and of course there will be complains about: why didn´t you? and why did you?
that is human beeing.....
never to agree with someone else work.
i REALLY tested alot for anichillus and other gys from wizard forum. and i know some facts - but i never released a rom: because it is such a hard work and then - you get no THANKS
no donations - o k - but no real thanks without any discussion = that´s not possible in a world where you can get illegal roms for free which are WAY WAY better than microseft ever will release.
I thank you for your good work and i will test everything _ but i will BEVER ask you: why didn´t you.......
because it is YOUR work, YOUR choice and OUR CHANCE to test it for free.
and if we like it : to say THANK YOU!!!
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6.1..yeah I wish I had that one
but no, its just a port from another "new" HTC device
The basic test rom is up on my p4350 now, so the port was success, well atleast to booting up and running ok.
Now it needs to be cleaned up and be cooked into a "brand new" look

but 6.1 is out somewhere.
there are videos.
but it is discussed as "not very much new and only new looking"...
itje said:
6.1..yeah I wish I had that one
but no, its just a port from another "new" HTC device
The basic test rom is up on my p4350 now, so the port was success, well atleast to booting up and running ok.
Now it needs to be cleaned up and be cooked into a "brand new" look
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wow that was your post number 1000
I think I know a guy that might have 6.1

Internet Sharing
Please include this if you were to release another rom. And touchflo w/o the cube.

I want my kaiser look like HTC TOUCH or I-PHONE

i wanna upgrade my kaiser like HTC Touch or I-phone all visual effects like scrolling explorer and contact search etc.
i find a video but i dont know how to do it can anybody help me?
i want exactly this one like on the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzyTUVIerP8

I propose a ban
I propose banning people who post threads like these. Are you serious? Dude, if you don't know how to mod your phone perhaps you should read through the forum and figure it out, and if you have a specific question, then feel free to ask it. Don't just say I don't know how to do it. You obviously are too lazy to figure it out by doing some basic reading.

i searched but i dont know where will i start

Let me guess, you searched one time and gave up? Well, I did one search too: I searched the word "iphone" in thread titles and displayed the results with the most views first: TA DA!!!
First link - "iphone App for WM - LookALike"
EDIT: Link was dead, updated it.

That's a silly suggestion...
bigsmooth469 said:
I propose banning people who post threads like these.
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We all have a right to opinions even if we disagree. Banning for this sort of thing is silly.
However, I agree they need to do homework and figure out what path they really would like to take before the step off the curb. This one is stepping right into an oncomming bus.

@jayopa86
Welcome to XDA-Dev
Just for guidance:
1
Given you are fairly new to this sort of thing, you will be better served if you post in the Kaiser Forum. (Not Kaiser Upgrading which is largely about ROM Flashing and the more advanced development stuff.)
2
Marm0lade above has given you a page of links (See link in his post) I hope you see how easy it was for him to search and get that page of iphone threads.
3.
Soon we are going to have a new Forum for Members who are Beginners, this will be a good place to post this kind of question.
I am going to move this thread to the regular Kaiser forum.
I may also close the thread in the next day or so, because the answers are there if you care to hunt around. However, if anyone wants to give you helpful, constructive advice about how to go about finding suitable information they can do so in the next few hours.
Mike

Most of that doesnt look like an iPhone to me. And I really dont want the main screen of the iPhone, but the way he navigates through all of the menu's and stuff is nice. Is that done through the cube?

my95z34 said:
Most of that doesnt look like an iPhone to me. And I really dont want the main screen of the iPhone, but the way he navigates through all of the menu's and stuff is nice. Is that done through the cube?
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Well, to check out Cube info see here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Cube
Mike

for somewhat the same menu interface or some other shell than wm has to offer you can use spb shell 2 (google xda for it)
it gives a nice cube/touch interface wich can be customized also there are alot of programs out there that enhance your phone like camera album,long endkey,big startmeu,s2u2,fff,touch commander and many more i suggest start reading the forum and use the wiki/google search this forum for answers good luck...

jayopa86 said:
i wanna upgrade my kaiser like HTC Touch or I-phone all visual effects like scrolling explorer and contact search etc.
i find a video but i dont know how to do it can anybody help me?
i want exactly this one like on the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzyTUVIerP8
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The hardest bit will be making a new case, and interfacing a new wide screen, then virtualising Apple OS to run under Windows, it would run like a dog.

mrg2003 said:
The hardest bit will be making a new case, and interfacing a new wide screen, then virtualising Apple OS to run under Windows, it would run like a dog.
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Naughty boy!
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bigsmooth469 said:
I propose banning people who post threads like these. Are you serious? Dude, if you don't know how to mod your phone perhaps you should read through the forum and figure it out, and if you have a specific question, then feel free to ask it. Don't just say I don't know how to do it. You obviously are too lazy to figure it out by doing some basic reading.
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are u nuts!!! how wud u like if the table turns on u. i myn thats jus like kids fighting over a lollipop!!

i actually like what is in that video. i know what some of the apps are, like the cube which i have had, but some of the other stuff i havent even seen. that is one good rom if thats what it is. giving a few pointers to a newbie is not going to kill you ;-)

I concur, That video is one I haven't seen before. I noticed the HTC Cube on there. but before he pulled that up he had another screen he was flipping in the same manner. What the heck program is that?
My phones all modded up and such. But that proggy makes me jealous.

i know, ive been searching for the last 40 mins trying to find those applications, im no noob at installing or searching, but theres so much to go through can anyone tell me what progs have been added inc the ones from the today menu. any halp appreciated, all i want to knwo is the names. TIA

This may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1993679&postcount=1

Jay2TheRescue said:
This may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1993679&postcount=1
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hmmmm, thanks for that, should think about removing TheRescue part of your ID.

mrg2003 said:
The hardest bit will be making a new case, and interfacing a new wide screen, then virtualising Apple OS to run under Windows, it would run like a dog.
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LMAO!!! Classic response, thank you!

swazpurohit said:
hmmmm, thanks for that, should think about removing TheRescue part of your ID.
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ok, finally after about an hour of searching, think i got most of it. The beginning part is Slide2unlock, the minic ube thing looks like its ultimate launcher, the main cube - 4 sides - seems to be SCLPC. i will check on my stellar and report back. thanks to thos with the helpful advice as some people on XDA-Developers were born like geniuses to come 2therescue - whatever. this board is the best and will be the best. its all about helping out.

swazpurohit said:
hmmmm, thanks for that, should think about removing TheRescue part of your ID.
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Well, if you must know I have been using that user name, (and variations thereof) all over the internet for almost 20 years now. I used to drive an ambulance before I opened my own business. That's where it came from. Still, there is a lot to be learned from reading the stickies & the Wiki. I've seen the following link posted many times, and I feel its far more blunt than what I linked to... http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php At least I showed you that there is hope by reading the information available. Trust me, it could have been much worse. You can easily get flamed here if you ask without reading the Wiki first.
-Jay

Awesome dialer skin... but dunno where to get it??

Check out the dialer included in this rom for the Polaris... from what it looks like, its surely got to be a skin for the Touch-Dual dialer and thats what I need for my Tilt that has the original one extracted by Dutty..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396560
I'm also attaching the picture of the dialer. Its apparently created by one Tom Codon and I've already pm'ed him and have received no reply. I've done some extensive search and haven't been lucky enough to find a cab for this dialer.
So please, if you have a cab for it or know where to get it from.. then help a brotha out.
AJ

ajfloridian said:
Check out the dialer included in this rom for the Polaris... from what it looks like, its surely got to be a skin for the Touch-Dual dialer and thats what I need for my Tilt that has the original one extracted by Dutty..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396560
I'm also attaching the picture of the dialer. Its apparently created by one Tom Codon and I've already pm'ed him and have received no reply. I've done some extensive search and haven't been lucky enough to find a cab for this dialer.
So please, if you have a cab for it or know where to get it from.. then help a brotha out.
AJ
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Well you are posting in the wrong part of the forum. You should contact mods to have this thread moved to Kaiser General section before you get flamed.

redbandana said:
Well you are posting in the wrong part of the forum. You should contact mods to have this thread moved to Kaiser General section before you get flamed.
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Than tan taaaaaan!! I see flames coming!!!
xD!!

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personally i would expect this one in software, i'm having a good day so i'm not gonna flame, hope you find it cause it looks really good, i want it on ryncppr's latest rom

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Lol! He got Calgary Flamed Too bad My home team did not make it far in the playoffs this year...

OnTopic.....
This is the Diamond dailer!

... that wuz close! didn't get flamed bad
... Mods.. thanx for moving this into the general Kaiser forum. I'll admit I'm guilty of slipping on purpose and posted in the wrong section... we're all only human! I need this dialer so bad that when I saw Kaiser General - 74 viewers, Kaiser Rom - 225 viewers.. I succumbed! LOL.
You've gotta admit though the dialer is AWESOME looking. I've gotten so used to the touch-dual dialer on my Tilt and this one seems like it would take care of the only gripe I have about it, the key-press accuracy is horrendous on it. This one looks to have much more defined boundaries and the black on white buttons.. all looks just purrrfect!!
PLEASE.. someone doo the kaiser community a favor and get us this dialer!.. Mr. Tom Codon.. hope ur reading somewhere.

the problem with finding the cab is none exist. everyone gets it from tom in OEM form and no one has made the cab yet.

how about making a cab?
Pawel062 said:
the problem with finding the cab is none exist. everyone gets it from tom in OEM form and no one has made the cab yet.
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Hi Pawel062... thanx for the reply. Although I'm in shock to know that no one of you cooks have compiled the dialer into a standalone installable cab!!?
What would it take for getting one of you guys to do that? I'm serious... (not being sarcastic, but a genuine question)!

In Dutty's public beta test rom dated May 22, this dialer is cooked in. However, he abandoned the rom due the amount of bugs on it, presumably caused by porting the interface from diamond to kaiser. This shows that it can be done though. I have been searching ever since I reflashed to L26's Diamond V5 Hybrid. I loved it, but not enough to keep a buggy, unsupported rom (although it was the best attempt I've seen so far!). I'm sure people are working on it though, but it seems it is not as simple as you might think, and as I thought.
sakajati's latest build, HyperDragon III WM6.1 WWE ROM CE OS 5.2.19588 Build 19588.1.1.4 (Diamond ROM) incorporates some of the diamond interface, such as the comm manager and keyboards, but goes on to say:
"Obviously there is more work to be done. There's some packages from Diamond rom I'm currently working on like the Dialer, Audio Manager, MP3 Trimmer etc."
So it's a case of waiting at the moment. If anyone fancies trying to extract the dialer from Dutty's Diamond rom (May 22) I'm sure there are lots of people who would be very grateful. I toyed with the idea but unfortunately wouldn't have a clue where to start.

matmaneyre said:
In Dutty's public beta test rom dated May 22, this dialer is cooked in. However, he abandoned the rom due the amount of bugs on it, presumably caused by porting the interface from diamond to kaiser. This shows that it can be done though. I have been searching ever since I reflashed to L26's Diamond V5 Hybrid. I loved it, but not enough to keep a buggy, unsupported rom (although it was the best attempt I've seen so far!). I'm sure people are working on it though, but it seems it is not as simple as you might think, and as I thought.
sakajati's latest build, HyperDragon III WM6.1 WWE ROM CE OS 5.2.19588 Build 19588.1.1.4 (Diamond ROM) incorporates some of the diamond interface, such as the comm manager and keyboards, but goes on to say:
"Obviously there is more work to be done. There's some packages from Diamond rom I'm currently working on like the Dialer, Audio Manager, MP3 Trimmer etc."
So it's a case of waiting at the moment. If anyone fancies trying to extract the dialer from Dutty's Diamond rom (May 22) I'm sure there are lots of people who would be very grateful. I toyed with the idea but unfortunately wouldn't have a clue where to start.
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thanks for such an insightful reply! I'm gonna stick around to see who compiles a cab of the dailer.. you're right, there would be many takers of such an awesome looking dialer.
I think there should be a dedicated thread in Development and Hacking section which should have all of the dialers being worked on currently and the ones in the past. Come to think of it, the one common thing all these devices do is that they're there to make a simple phone call when one needs to... so why hasn't a dedicated thread been stickied yet? This way one can try out all of the dialers every make/posted on the forums.
Just my 2 cents..

ajfloridian said:
thanks for such an insightful reply! I'm gonna stick around to see who compiles a cab of the dailer.. you're right, there would be many takers of such an awesome looking dialer.
I think there should be a dedicated thread in Development and Hacking section which should have all of the dialers being worked on currently and the ones in the past. Come to think of it, the one common thing all these devices do is that they're there to make a simple phone call when one needs to... so why hasn't a dedicated thread been stickied yet? This way one can try out all of the dialers every make/posted on the forums.
Just my 2 cents..
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If someone is willing to test for me, I'll compile a cab tonight or tomorrow. It's fairly simple, I've done others for roms past. HOWEVER, I just deleted my last dump though & need the image files in QVGA if someone can get them or dump them that would be great.

GSLEON3 said:
If someone is willing to test for me, I'll compile a cab tonight or tomorrow. It's fairly simple, I've done others for roms past. HOWEVER, I just deleted my last dump though & need the image files in QVGA if someone can get them or dump them that would be great.
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i'll test if you let me know when it's done

I need the files though, I can't dump again till tomorrow as I have a social call to make tonight. I am certain I can make it work as a skin real easy, geting the full screen call ID & Call accept/reject may be a different story.
Has anyone the QVGA files for a dump? Who is this mysterious tom? I can get them from a dump of Dutty rom, but I have to do it the old tool imgfs, rev/rec way as it will not cook in a kitchen. I can do it, but it'll take time. Much better if someone can link me to the QVGA images in an OEM, whatever the other chefs are using.

Unfortunately, as mentioned, I've since reflashed from Dutty's Test Rom and just got everything the way I like it with L26's Diamond Hybrid V5, & I don't really have the time to reflash, learn the Rom dumping process from scratch, and then reflash again and set it all back up. If anyone is willing though, we wait anxiously!
If we could dump or extract from a *.nbh, that wouldn't be a problem, but it seems we can't. Otherwise I suppose you'd have done that already!
It's amazing how much you can want something so simple as a dialer skin. I don't think it's even about how nice it is anymore. I just want it cos I can't get it. Just like when I so badly wanted a Wii cos the shops were sold out! (Got one eventually, bit of an anticlimax!)

matmaneyre said:
Unfortunately, as mentioned, I've since reflashed from Dutty's Test Rom and just got everything the way I like it with L26's Diamond Hybrid V5, & I don't really have the time to reflash, learn the Rom dumping process from scratch, and then reflash again and set it all back up. If anyone is willing though, we wait anxiously!
If we could dump or extract from a *.nbh, that wouldn't be a problem, but it seems we can't. Otherwise I suppose you'd have done that already!
It's amazing how much you can want something so simple as a dialer skin. I don't think it's even about how nice it is anymore. I just want it cos I can't get it. Just like when I so badly wanted a Wii cos the shops were sold out! (Got one eventually, bit of an anticlimax!)
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You can do it. Just not with standard kitchen. I'll do it this weekend I guess.

That would be excellent, but if you could give me more of an idea of what kitchen to use and where to get it I'll sort out the files if it helps. I'm sorry, I've never used a kitchen before or cooked or dumped/reconstructed any roms myself. Not that I couldn't learn to do it. I'm normally pretty good with that kind of stuff. It's just that with the high standard being produced at the moment with WM6.1s, Hybrids and now porting Diamond roms, I know other people are developing things that are way beyond my means as a beginner, so I'm reluctant to get started if you see what I mean!
But I don't mind spending a bit of time figuring this out if it contributes to the cause. If somebody could give me a good clue on where to start, I'll see what I can come up with.
Otherwise, we'll all just sit back and wait for GSLEON3 to do it for us! (Which would be much easier, of course!)

i have dumped and rebuilt roms but i haven't been able to figure out what files are what programs etc. on my phone
now if someone can let me know what folder and files i would need to make a cab file then i could potentially do it. i'm not as special as GSLEON, i don't have an unlimited supply of devices but i do currently have 4 with one more on the way so i can test my cabs

tubaking182 said:
i have dumped and rebuilt roms but i haven't been able to figure out what files are what programs etc. on my phone
now if someone can let me know what folder and files i would need to make a cab file then i could potentially do it. i'm not as special as GSLEON, i don't have an unlimited supply of devices but i do currently have 4 with one more on the way so i can test my cabs
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Same here, I think the main problem for me once having the right program and procedure figured out would be grabbing the right files to make the cab.
I'm sure it wont be long before this is about though. Even if GSLEON3 doesn't get around to it over the weekend, it will come soon.
No pressure GSLEON3!

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After my third Hermes breaking on me (although this last one was actually my fault) I have decided to switch over to an Iphone for awhile. Does anyone know of any good websites for information on Iphone mods? Thanks for any help.

why phone
oops bad word on this forum matey iphone? whats one of those?
Phones: Orange HTC Touch Diamond
Rom: 1.93.405.1 WWE
Rom Date : 21/09/08.
Radio: 1.20 OliNex.
Ext Rom :SwiftBL Diamond V7.0 Full (16 mb Pagepool)
HSPL : 1.40 OliNex.
Diamond SIM/CID/Security Unlocker.
Orange SPV M3100 ( Hermes 100 )
Rom : S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D
Rom Date : 22/09/08.
Radio : 1.56.70.11
HSPL : 1.40 Olipro.
Hermes SIM/CID/Security Unlocker.

I'm actually enjoying it so far. I'm not quite as tech savy as some of you out there so it works just fine for me. Has most of the options I want and i didnt have to throw a bunch of tweaks at it to get them (yet anyway). As long as it doesn't break like my other three hermes' i'll be fine with it (even though i sorta broke the last one, it was already on it's way out with keys not responding). I'll give HTC a year or two to work out some of their issues and try an HTC phone out again then.

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no advice?

branden7 said:
no advice?
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Check this www.iphonetopsites.com or alternatively google for "Iphone Sites"
EDIT: -On reflection maybe i should have ignored this post this is after all a WM site lol

hackint0sh.org, in my mind, is the equivalent to iPhone's XDA-Developers. I haven't spent a ton of time on the site, but there's a lot of good info there.

Wrong forum to ask mate
Here is an HTC only devices forum
And a lot of users have no good opinions about iphoney....
Anyway good luck

orb3000 said:
Wrong forum to ask mate
Here is an HTC only devices forum
And a lot of users have no good opinions about iphoney....
Anyway good luck
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That's why it's in the off-topic forum... Right place to ask, as lots of people on here are interested in pocket PC's and not just HTC devices. I don't JUST like HTC products, but in generalized forums you don't find nearly as much information about each device.

Thank you for the replies. Sorry to cause such a commotion, I really liked the support and friendliness (up until now anyway) of these boards and I was hoping to find that for my Iphone somewhere...

branden7 said:
Thank you for the replies. Sorry to cause such a commotion, I really liked the support and friendliness (up until now anyway) of these boards and I was hoping to find that for my Iphone somewhere...
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The issue is, about 99% of the users here don't care about the iPhone, which I'm sure you already know, but you can't tell me you expected anything different.

TheChampJT said:
The issue is, about 99% of the users here don't care about the iPhone, which I'm sure you already know, but you can't tell me you expected anything different.
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Yeah, I mean, why would he ever expect people on this forum to try to help him out even if it's not something they love? The issue is that the people who don't like the iPhone feel the need to force their opinions down others' throats, even when a simple question is asked in the correct forum. The original poster was 0% in the wrong here, all he wanted was the same support for his new phone. It's like everyone has told me since I've come here, if your post doesn't contribute to the forum, why are you posting? Do I love the iPhone? No. Would I ever buy one for myself? Hell no. Am I going to bash a kid for asking where to get support for his? No, I'll share what information I have and move on. I feel like your post is just condoning flaming people that have a different view than yours and saying it's okay to do... It's not.
Edit: Realized mod needed to move the thread, so the OP was 5% in the wrong... Now he's all set.

Black93300ZX said:
Yeah, I mean, why would he ever expect people on this forum to try to help him out even if it's not something they love? The issue is that the people who don't like the iPhone feel the need to force their opinions down others' throats, even when a simple question is asked in the correct forum. The original poster was 0% in the wrong here, all he wanted was the same support for his new phone. It's like everyone has told me since I've come here, if your post doesn't contribute to the forum, why are you posting? Do I love the iPhone? No. Would I ever buy one for myself? Hell no. Am I going to bash a kid for asking where to get support for his? No, I'll share what information I have and move on. I feel like your post is just condoning flaming people that have a different view than yours and saying it's okay to do... It's not.
Edit: Realized mod needed to move the thread, so the OP was 5% in the wrong... Now he's all set.
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My first part was going to mention the moving of the thread, but I see you've noticed it. The point of the statement is, there are randomly iPhone threads that pop up here and there, and nobody wants to help with them, since it's the competition. My reply was not an open invitation for rude comments, just simply putting, if you ask a WM community about an iPhone, don't expect 100% help and participation like the rest of the WM threads.

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..........it just doesn't look right.
the same way this post doesn't look right on this website.

joel2009 said:
..........it just doesn't look right.
the same way this post doesn't look right on this website.
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The Samsung Omnia thread doesn't look right in an HTC forum, nor do the many threads of off-topic discussing the bible, or even the thread the guy made for his 2 year old daughter who's going through a really rough time... That's why it's the off-topic section, where you can find help for things other than HTC phones. Am I losing my mind, or is that the entire reason the creators of XDA-Dev came up with this section? I don't know about you, but I wanted to help the guy regardless of him owning an Apple product over HTC, that's why I posted relevant and useful information. Apparently people aren't here "just to help" like I originally thought this forum was about, they're here "just to help those who like our brand"... I missed the fine print.

i think you guys are blowing this out of proportion its really not a big deal...the OP got the info he wanted (along with some joshing) and thats about it...

prabh said:
i think you guys are blowing this out of proportion its really not a big deal...the OP got the info he wanted (along with some joshing) and thats about it...
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I just don't like the selective discrimination here, it's okay to not help someone because it's an iPhone, but if someone comes asking for help with a Fuze unhelpful posts are frowned upon? The attitude of "you can't expect better" is one that holds the forum down, let's just try to be more helpful no matter what the topic.

Black93300ZX said:
That's why it's in the off-topic forum... Right place to ask, as lots of people on here are interested in pocket PC's and not just HTC devices. I don't JUST like HTC products, but in generalized forums you don't find nearly as much information about each device.
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In that case please go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314455

orb3000 said:
In that case please go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314455
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Yeah I saw that, I think it's pretty sad... 6th graders have nothing better to do than try to put down things they feel threatened by. As I said I'm not a fan of the iPhone myself, but it's a good phone, and once some bugs are worked out (HTC never has bugs, right?) it'll definitely compete with the best. Also, when an iPhone has a problem you take it to an Apple store and they replace it at the Genius Bar with no problems if it's something they can't fix. If your Touch Pro has a problem? Get ready to ship it out and wait 2 weeks. Yellow spots on screens, fuzziness, not nearly as crisp as the Euro version's screen... Those are problems we've seen out of the box in the first week of the US version, and luckily they show up quick so they can be returned to the retailer. If you have problems with it in a month? Well, I hope you have a backup.

Black93300ZX said:
Yeah I saw that, I think it's pretty sad... 6th graders have nothing better to do than try to put down things they feel threatened by. As I said I'm not a fan of the iPhone myself, but it's a good phone, and once some bugs are worked out (HTC never has bugs, right?) it'll definitely compete with the best. Also, when an iPhone has a problem you take it to an Apple store and they replace it at the Genius Bar with no problems if it's something they can't fix. If your Touch Pro has a problem? Get ready to ship it out and wait 2 weeks. Yellow spots on screens, fuzziness, not nearly as crisp as the Euro version's screen... Those are problems we've seen out of the box in the first week of the US version, and luckily they show up quick so they can be returned to the retailer. If you have problems with it in a month? Well, I hope you have a backup.
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Ok I understand your point now mate
So you will understand mine also, it´s no matter of how good or bad is the iphone, it´s the fact that we are on an HTC devices forum.
Is like if I go to the Toyota forum and post how wonderfull is my Ford or if someone can recommend me a part.
HTC has a lot of bugs also but thanks to this fantastic HTC forum we can have and share so many ROM´s software and knowledge!
By the way HTC HD would really beat Iphone
Cheers

orb3000 said:
Ok I understand your point now mate
So you will understand mine also, it´s no matter of how good or bad is the iphone, it´s the fact that we are on an HTC devices forum.
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I'm so glad to know you became moderator! Because, as far as I've seen, the mods let discussions continue about other phones. They say they won't make a sub-forum for them, which makes sense, but discussion in off-topic about other phones (as you can see there are many threads about the Omnia in off-topic) are permitted. So until you get a little badge that says "moderator" or "administrator", I don't see why you feel you have the final say on others asking about different phones. In EVERY SINGLE THREAD that isn't about an HTC device you have to jump in and say why the thread shouldn't be there, yet the moderators who make the decisions allow it to be. Let them run the forum.

ROM's and Ringtones/Games

I am sorry if this is asked and answered elsewhere.
I use my Tilt for business primarily and when updating to cooked roms, I've encountered some problems.
The first rom was build 23529 which I liked but couldn't get the PTT feature to reinstall properly. It had a ringtone I liked, Generic1, I think. My ringtones have to be reasonably professional as I frequently receive calls in front of customers.
The second rom is build 21890. I have gotten the PTT to reinstall and it seems to work fine, as does ActiveSync with Exchange. This rom doesn't include even the free games such as solitaire and ball breaker. It also only includes maybe 6 ringtones. The primary tone is 'Let's Make Love Tonight'! As much as I like that song, I cannot have that going off in front of customers.
Is there a ringtone cab somewhere to install a variety of the generally free ringtones that are out there?
Also is there anyway to make the clock smaller with TouchFlo?
Sorry for the n00b questions. I appreciate everyone's work and help.

Moved as not ROM Development.
There are loads of ringtone sites or the better alternative stick an .mp3 on your root of storage card.

I apologize for posting in the wrong section. The reply given is basically a non-answer to my post. Perhaps I should just spend the time to learn how to cook myself. To me it makes absolutely no sense to eliminate ringtone selection from the base rom. Yes there are websites loaded with ringtones, but as indicated I wish to have a standard, professional sounding ring. The websites provide alternatives to the basic ringtones that I am seeking and that are normally provided with the phone. I do not wish to play a song when my phone rings. I once enjoyed the flexibility of using mp3's for ringtones, but the need for professionalism overrides that.
A general question for those developing the roms... While I can understand the removal of the PTT feature since it is so scarcely used, but why eliminate the provided ringtones from the roms? An argument can be made for the games as bloatware, but ringtones?? I really don't get it. I would think the more the better. They cannot possibly add that much space to the file. Isn't the point in building a rom and sharing it with others to provide something great to others?
Sorry if I am coming across crass. But I don't like being dismissed and I just don't appreciate the answer received. Granted this is paraphrased, but... "Your a dumba**, so I moved your post. You should just use an mp3 for your ring." Sorry again, but obviously if I managed to flash the phone, I realize that an mp3 is an option. I do not wish to go that route. I wish to use a standardized ringtone. Most ringtone websites do not offer them.
Also is there anyway to make the clock smaller with TouchFlo?
HardSPL 3.29 Build 21890 Radio 1.71.09.01
Thanks.

That all depends what you call a professional ringtone since most provided are just midi tones in .wma format.
You can always flash a stock ROM and take the audio from it then place into custom, wouldn't take long compared to how long it takes to cook a ROM
Attached are the default Rings from a HTC ROM. "just dumped and taken"
In future please think how you reply because i know a lot of users would not have taken there time to help you out after the the rant, to which holds no validity.
Since it seems many of you want the stock sounds i have placed an updated .zip it has about 2 x amount Stock\Topaz\Diamond rings.

For real, Stylez is a mod and every time he moves a thread to the appropriate area, he leaves a line saying why it was moved. In this case he also threw out what he thought was helpful information. Damn shame that you couldn't see the helpful nature in that and decided to reply with a snooty message.
Stylez is one of the most helpful people (not just mod) I've seen on this site, and I've seen some helpful people.
If you were so smart, you would have just flashed back to the rom you love so much, copied the ringtones, and then flashed back to the rom you hate and put them on it. Sadly your brain power was used to put down the helpful good natured Stylez..

Thank you very much Stylez. You provided me with exactly what I was looking for.
I apologize for the rant.
For the record, I never claimed to be so smart. I had to learn how to flash the phone. I would have had to learn how to dump the rom, or anything else beyond the initial flashing.
Thanks again.

Since the Mods here are far too professional and helpful to give you the answer you deserve, I will . You claim to be " professional " and need to have professional ringtones for your customers, yet one has to wonder how you " professionally " treat your customers if this is the way you treat people trying to help you " at your request " when you don't get the exact answer you want.I guess your attitude makes me glad I am not one of your customers.
Ringtones and Theme changing is Kaiser 101. You took the time to read and study enough to successfully flash your phone, but you can't be bothered to read or search for ringtones and new themes ?
I know you already apologized to stylez for the rant and I am sure that being the " professional " that " he " is, he will except it and help you going forward in any way.
But to come on a new site and with your first three posts , display such a snotty attitude, I would not count on too much help from any other members.

Denco, I sold my Tilt finally, the people were very excited to get it and loved all the stuff Stylez added to his rom.
I have to say that I'm ready to pawn the iPhone too.

denco7 said:
Since the Mods here are far too professional and helpful to give you the answer you deserve, I will . You claim to be " professional " and need to have professional ringtones for your customers, yet one has to wonder how you " professionally " treat your customers if this is the way you treat people trying to help you " at your request " when you don't get the exact answer you want.I guess your attitude makes me glad I am not one of your customers.
Ringtones and Theme changing is Kaiser 101. You took the time to read and study enough to successfully flash your phone, but you can't be bothered to read or search for ringtones and new themes ?
I know you already apologized to stylez for the rant and I am sure that being the " professional " that " he " is, he will except it and help you going forward in any way.
But to come on a new site and with your first three posts , display such a snotty attitude, I would not count on too much help from any other members.
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Well said denco7.

ChumleyEX said:
Denco, I sold my Tilt finally, the people were very excited to get it and loved all the stuff Stylez added to his rom.
I have to say that I'm ready to pawn the iPhone too.
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Me too, I have finally had it with AT$T , they are by far the worst wireless ever
My Tilt has it's course for me, will probably give it to my son with a T-Mobile sim.
I still like my iPhone being an Apple fanboy and have been looking at getting it to run on T -Mobile. But I surely don't like it enough to stick with AT$T. Been looking at the Fender myTouch and the Droid Eris. Or may wait for the HD2 to come to T-Mobile.

My at&t service in my area is awesome, I guess they just suck every where else.
I'm just ready for a new gadget, I do get mad that at&t doesn't have an android phone.
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