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Folks,
Used to have a HTC Universal (Vodafone v1640) that I never got working with Vodafone Live in the UK. Now have a v1615 (Kaiser) and wondering if this device can be made to work and access Vodafone Live.
I'm fairly technically literate (though not an expert!) and have to admit to getting a touch lost on a couple of things I've read on various websites. Not to sure how to change registry settings on my machine, but no probs learning, and very familiar with all the standard wap settings etc required.
My v1640 used to just hang if i pointed it to "www.live.vodafone.com", my Kaiser will now access the site but gives the following error in Explorer:
"Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.live.vodafone.com
The dnsserver returned:
Name error: The domain name does not exist.
This means that:
The cache was not able to resolve the hostname presented in the URL. Check if the address is correct"
I never got this error message on the 1640 - it just sat there and did nothing. So i'm wondering if this is any further progress or not? Or are these HTC devices (as Vodafone confirmed today) just not meant to connect to Live without serious tweaking.
I am more than happy to have a hack at my machine but am slightly lost at where to start here in order to achieve this on my brand new device for which there still doesn't seem to be much info.
Have Vodafone got this device almost ready to access Live? Or is one of the posts i've seen somewhere just a fantasy?!
All I really need is just a basic guide going through it with this new device.
Can't believe Vodafone don't have this working in the first place...
Thanks.
Isn't it live.vodafone.com rather than www.live.vodafone.com?
yes, and you need some proxy settings as well to use it. the only way I got Live.vodafone.com to work was by adding it as a modem connection under my work network if you are looking to use it as a data plan only and it will only work with EAS and PIE, no VOIP or messenger will work. As for using the vodafone live site, you need to change some regkey settings that will fool the the vodafone proxy to think that you have an approved handset for vodafone live, you should find examples in this forum if you search around, I think Modaco also has some entries on this. Bottom line is that Vodafone never intended to let it be used with PPC, because once they loose that control they cannot sell their services, advertise etc which is why it's a relatively useless solution for anyone who use their offer of 500 MB for 10 Eur or something along those lines.
Cheers
LBN
Thanks guys. Yes - it is just live.vodafone.com - was too busy with work...
Ok, starting to get an idea of what needs to be done. Have seen so many posts on various websites that I wasn't quite sure where to start.
I'm guessing that changing the regkey settings is the first thing to try then? Is there an easy to use registry tweaking tool?
Been messing around for a while now and nothing I do seems to make any difference!
I've tried all kinds of different Reg Key settings, every combination of wap and internet access points, and nothing seems to change anything.
Basically no matter what i enter, (either wsp://live.vodafone.com or http://live.vodafone.com) it only connects through a wap connection, and it only brings up a very basic vodafoneLive series of text based web pages with no access to anything interesting.
Do WM6 devices such as mine have different Reg Key settings / areas that need modifying? I'm surprised that putting Nokia settings in, or any other setting has no effect at all!
Anyone??
The vodafone live portal requires a "template" to be present at the vodafone end which defines which screen size and content the device can handle. Unless Vodafone have created one for the v1615, you will need to alter the useragent to look like a device which does have a template...
Without a devices presenting its self as a supported device, you will not be able to access live services.
Why not look at the user agent of the Treo 500v? That is the frist real consumer WM device which has the ability to view the live portal.
Gotcha. Makes sense, thanks for the tip.
Any idea where to find details of a Treo 500v user agent?? Will give it a go if I know where to find one!
Hi,
Take a look at
http://www.modaco.com/Vodafone-Live-Settings-t259142.html
Guys,
I just got a Vodafone Treo 750v which i really like. but it doesn't have Vodafone Live or Mobile TV access on it as standard. I managed to get my Tytn II working (with your help and the Modaco forum) several months ago and now I'm trying to see if you or anyone can get my 750v working.
First thing i did was install a cab file (from the thread in the post above) on my machine and setup a wap connection and i was straight in to Vodafone Live all of a sudden. Got to mobile tv page but Windows media player wouldn't connect via wap. So went to xda-developers page and downloaded the HTC v2.10 streaming player and installed it and set it up to connect via wap.
Success, almost - choosing a channel to watch now launches the HTC player and starts to buffer the video but when it gets to almost 100% buffered and is ready to start showing video it suddenly hangs, then has an error and wants to send an error log to Microsoft. Its almost like the HTC player is missing something or some codec or dll file.
Anyone know how to crack this last bit? Anyone use a different Streaming media player to do this?
Hope someone can help!
Paul
I've been searching the whole forum today and others where I thought I would find an answer, but I still can't find anything that tells me where to look.
Of course, we know the search isn't so great here, but I may have not searched very thorougly, so I'm posting this here in case someone might know off the top of their head where to look.
I don't know if it's PIE or the AT&T proxy that's causing this, but I don't see the problem using Opera Mobile with the same connection. I'm using PIE+ 2.2 on IE, but I remember this occuring even before I installed the plug-in.
I've encountered some sites where IE will *seriously* compress the images and cause them to be very pixelated and distorted even in Desktop view.
I guess I could use Opera, but there's some limitations on it that PIE with "+" overcome.
Any ideas or suggestions?
its AT-T I wouldnt use the MediaNet that the Auto config sets you up with. I personally use the wap.cingular settings and have no issues what so ever
austinsnyc said:
its AT-T I wouldnt use the MediaNet that the Auto config sets you up with. I personally use the wap.cingular settings and have no issues what so ever
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Can you still access MediaNet and Cingular Video with those settings? I was also having problems checking my AT&T Yahoo! IMAP accounts using "My ISP", but they work just fine with MediaNet...
And while we're on the subject: Anyone know why I can't access the mobile Bank of America site anymore? Can't get on it with either Opera or IE - It says that 'for security reasons my device can't acess Mobile Banking.'
is there a setting or a fix to force PIE to load the non-mobile version of website, for example ESPN?
I searched but I end up coming up with a bunch of junk that didn't help me. I know that Opera does it, I was just curious if there was a way to do this in PIE. Thanks
I think it's to do with the User Agent string that Internet Explorer repors to websites. KaiserTweak offers the chance to change it, so if you change it to the same as your PC (go here to see yours http://www.hybrid6.com/webgeek/tools/what-is-my-user-agent ) then the website should "think" you're on a PC rather than a mobile.
I haven't tested this, but I'm pretty sure this is right!
thanks, I will play around with it, has anyone done this before?
If you change the string to report IE5 to the web server, you'll get what you're looking for. I did that for a while, but went back to the original settings as some sites tried to send content that my browser didn't like.
The other option is to load the site on the desktop, and transfer the real URL to the ppc favorites. This is what I ended up doing and it worked for most of the sites that I needed to get to.
Thanks, I can see what you mean, I will just make a bunch of favorites and import them into PIE. Thanks for the good idea.
I recently attempted to move from my AT&T Stock ROM, but connectivity problems resulting from using a Cooked ROM had me give up and return to the WM6 stock ROM.
I am wondering if anyone out there has, or could, create a CAB which would basically store the network settings from the AT&T Stock ROM (MEdia Net, wap.cingular, etc), which could then be run on a cooked ROM to duplicate and install those settings?
Is this even possible?
jdmba said:
I recently attempted to move from my AT&T Stock ROM, but connectivity problems resulting from using a Cooked ROM had me give up and return to the WM6 stock ROM.
I am wondering if anyone out there has, or could, create a CAB which would basically store the network settings from the AT&T Stock ROM (MEdia Net, wap.cingular, etc), which could then be run on a cooked ROM to duplicate and install those settings?
Is this even possible?
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Read this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
And try this:http://www.4shared.com/account/file/46448000/1dc5758c/ATT_Settings.html?sId=sLCC3kmuIH9lBjAX
Thanks
Denco,
Not sure why I would need to read the radio thread again, but thanks for the link. My problem here was not my radio (I had used both the one which Dutty included, and the xx.xx.xx.20 as well), it was the settings built into the Dutty Hybrid ROM. It had MEdia Net for some things, MY ISP (with isp.cingulair set), for others. It may have been the radio which always triggered an internet access even if WiFi was on, or a bug in that ROM. Regardless, what I am looking for here is unrelated to radio; but, again, pushing people over to the Ultimate Radio ROM thread is always a good move
BTW, please note that I loved the Dutty ROM. I think it is fantastic. It even offers to install "AT&T Settings" ... it just then does them wrong (at least for the US) This is in NO WAY a slam on Dutty or his ROM. This is just an unfortuante consequence of using the ROM (even with the offered AT&T Customizations) on AT&T.
Thank you very much for the CAB. Is there any place which explains what it has or does? As mentioned, I would love for it to just hammer back all the AT&T connectivity settings to override "incorrect" settings cooked Roms.
why use a cab when you can use your eyes and read at&t's site on how to set those settings up. when you do it enough you tend to memorize it as well. a lot faster waiting to find a cab
Sigh
dyetheskin,
Thanks for your response, although I am not sure how it helps. However, I will answer you.
Because installing a cab is probably less time consuming that attempting to pound through pages and pages of settings and numbers such as the following (which is probably NOT correct, and certainly does not say where each setting is ... its just an example)
Name: Cingular
Homepage: http://device.home
Service Type 1: WAP
Gateway IP 1: 66.209.11.61
Port 1: 80 --NOT 9201
Domain 1: <blank>
Service Type 2: WAP
Gateway IP 2: <blank>
Port 2: 0 --NOT 9201
Domain 2: <blank>
DNS 1: <blank>
DNS 2: <blank>
Timeout: 15 minutes
CSD No.1: <blank>
User Name 1: <blank>
Password 1: <blank>
Speed (Bps): 9600
Line Type 1: Modem
CSD No. 2: <blank>
User Name 2: <blank>
Password 2: <blank>
Speed (Bps) 2: 9600
Line Type 2: ISDN
GPRS APN: wap.cingular
User Name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
jdmba said:
I recently attempted to move from my AT&T Stock ROM, but connectivity problems resulting from using a Cooked ROM had me give up and return to the WM6 stock ROM.
I am wondering if anyone out there has, or could, create a CAB which would basically store the network settings from the AT&T Stock ROM (MEdia Net, wap.cingular, etc), which could then be run on a cooked ROM to duplicate and install those settings?
Is this even possible?
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I've used this cab in the past on a WM5 Smartphone and a Treo 750. I think from memory it's off iMate's website. Worked a-ok for me. Much easier than trying to type in the settings (when you can find them).
jdmba said:
Denco,
Not sure why I would need to read the radio thread again, but thanks for the link. My problem here was not my radio (I had used both the one which Dutty included, and the xx.xx.xx.20 as well), it was the settings built into the Dutty Hybrid ROM. It had MEdia Net for some things, MY ISP (with isp.cingulair set), for others. It may have been the radio which always triggered an internet access even if WiFi was on, or a bug in that ROM. Regardless, what I am looking for here is unrelated to radio; but, again, pushing people over to the Ultimate Radio ROM thread is always a good move
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Not enough info in your original post. You just said " a cooked rom " . Many phone and connectivity problems have to do with people downloading roms with no or incompatible radios. The lack of information sounded like this was the case. Hope at least the cab helps
WIKI
Denco,
I was recently told I should do my part and update the WiKi. I now have TWO cabs from this thread. While I have no idea if they work, I will try to figure out how to update the Wiki with them. I will likely fail
No worries on your message, but I do hope my response did provide an answer. There are just far too many settings to do by hand; much less multiple times on each flash!
Combining a cab with Bengalih's wonderful Sashimi program would allow you to automatically reinstall the real AT&T settings!
jdmba said:
Denco,
I was recently told I should do my part and update the WiKi. I now have TWO cabs from this thread. While I have no idea if they work, I will try to figure out how to update the Wiki with them. I will likely fail
No worries on your message, but I do hope my response did provide an answer. There are just far too many settings to do by hand; much less multiple times on each flash!
Combining a cab with Bengalih's wonderful Sashimi program would allow you to automatically reinstall the real AT&T settings!
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It is easy to do, and the instructions are provided. Ask _Alex_, P1Tater, or AllTheWay,or one of the other Mods for help, I'm sure they would assist.
I did it
heres is the best one and it works with medianet and myisp. it came from alltheway.
I have tried this one, and it did not work for me...
jdmba said:
I did it
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BE VERY VERY, VERY specific on how. I really like this Duty rom, but I can't use it if i can't get this.
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Sorry about multiple posts.
I was able to resolve my issue, i think.
What i did was hard reset after getting the Duty Rom. After the connection wizard configured my phone for ATT i went in and changed "ISP GPRS" to use wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular...
IT WORKED.
not sure if it will help others.
Hello Everyone,
I recently bought an EEE PC as a second computer and seeing as it's about the most easily lost or stolen laptop ever made, I thought it might be an idea to run some software on it that might help me recover it should it ever go missing.
After trying a few existing bits of software and not finding any satisfactory, I resorted to writing my own.
Since it seemed useful to me, I thought I'd make it available to anyone interested. It's a very early version at the moment and very basic, but I don't think there are too many bugs (famous last words!! ).
I thought I would post a message here as I use this forum quite a lot, and I know a lot of people here won't have a problem with editing the config file to set it up, I've tried to make things as simple as possible. However, if you don't know the difference between POP3 and SMTP mail servers, this app is probably not for you!!
If people are interested, I'll continue to develop it further. A few ideas are listed on my website.
Visit www.ajhonline.co.uk for download links and help.
Alex
this isn't hard to circumvent.
Nice app, but wouldn't they probably wipe the HDD?
How would it compare to Lojack's (utilizes Computrace) service? Some laptops have the Computrace service embedded in the bios. I currently use a Dell D410 and Panasonic CF-19, and they both have Computrace built into the bios. If someone formats my hard drive, or installs another harddrive, the bios will rebuild the neccessary files, run in the the background and start reporting the IP address back to Lojack.
Yes, of course the hard drive could be wiped, or it could never be connected to the internet. It is also easy to circumvent, although if I do develop it further, it would be fairly straight forward to make it less obvious and better hidden. This is only a very first version, to gauge interest more than anything,
It's not meant to be 100% foolproof, that probably isn't possible anyway. The advantage is it's free. I really developed it because I couldn't get Adeona to work (it just kept failing to connect to its server), not to compete with commercial solutions.
Hmmm, you know how I said I didn't think there were any bugs....
I just found that the Windows version was not saving the detected IP addresses correctly, so it would email you a "new" IP address message every time the computer was rebooted.
However the problem is now fixed, and a new version 0.1a available for download. The cross platform version wouldn't have been affected, but there's a new version of that too, just for completeness.
Sorry
Alex
I've now made some additions and released a new version which includes the changes below:
Added a separate configuration application to simplify initial setup
Added the ability to encrypt the mail server password for better security
Added a link to DNSTools to the IP Detected email for easy lookup of the WHOIS records for the IP Address
As before, visit www.ajhonline.co.uk and download version 0.2 from there.
Alex
PS - If you are using the Windows version and doing an upgrade from a previous version, make sure you keep a copy of your existing fyl.properties file, otherwise it will be overwritten during the install and any existing known IP addresses will be lost.
huff,.
i wish i have seen this before i lost my friend laptop,.
great help sir,. keep up,.
Version 0.22 is now available for download from www.ajhonline.co.uk.
It's only a small update; you are now able to specify a range of IP addresses as already known so that you don't get an email when one of those is detected.
Alex