Ok I have the AT&T Tilt obviously and I have been trying to get the operator names that I entered to show up. It still says AT&T on the "Home" Tab and on the "Wirless" tab. But when I set the phone to manually let me search for a tower and it shows the networks available it shows the names I have entered into the OperatorNames folder. Also when I change AT&T(310-410) to say sucks after restart it will swith back to AT&T in the registry. I also tried changing the registry HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting ONSDisplayRule to 0,1,2,3 originally it was on 4. and still no luck. Am I missing something. And yes I am positive the registry edits are done correctly(did it on the Cingular 8125). And no the phone is not unlocked. *Update* the operator names folder was there already with the registry AT&T(310-410) if deleted it still shows AT&T and returns upon restart. Maybe somebody knows something I don't or I just happen to have a lemon.
Nobody have anything, no idea, well has anyone else had a problem when changing there operator name and it keeps coming back, that could be a start???
Sounds like ATT is your operator. I don't think you can just change that.
Not trying to switch the "Operator" from AT&T to say T-Mobile, just trying to get the Name AT&T changed to say Cingular. But each time I change the registry 310-410 from AT&T to Cingular, it only shows Cingular in the Manual Selection box, but not on the Today Screen. So what I am saying is that it does work, but does NOT show different on the Today Screen. And Resets back to AT&T in the registry on soft-reset. There must be some edit somewhere in the registry to keep it from changing names on the today screen and change back on reset. The Personalizer cab worked, but what I am really looking for is the phone to show me which network I am using and not just AT&T all the time.
What I'm saying is I don't think you can do that.
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I thought the phone read the operator from the cell tower.
Yeah, but ATT/Cingular devices are setup to override that and show every network as ATT/Cingular. There is a setting in the phone to read the network name from the phone, or from the SIM, by default ATT phones read the network name from the SIM, and all of their SIM cards are programmed to show all networks as either ATT or Cingular for the older ones. Its not a big deal though, its just the network name. My unhacked phones all read AT&T, most of my hacked phones all read Cingular.
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Maybe Jay can shine some more light on it.
Yea that makes sense I kinda wondered that. Ok then maybe you might know a little bit more why I can take that same sim card and put it in my Cingular 8125 and yes it does say Cingular for the network, but it will also show, for instance in my area, iWireless when it does roam over.
Maybe that phone isn't as locked down as the tilt???
So there probably is a way it just hasn't been found.
So does unlocking the phone change anything?? Or what about non AT&T Tilt Kaiser's do they have the same issue?? Its obviously something that AT&T installs on the setup of the device and puts some settings in the boot registry to block it. Where does the "Home" tab get the Provider Name from because I can get the "Wireless" tab to change, but am unsuccessful on the Home tab unless you use the personalizer.
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My girlfriend just bought me a att tilt/kaiser/8925 and I have Tmobile. I have unlocked the phone and am now having trouble getting it to connect to the internet, I have tried the settings from my old mda to connect through wap but I get an error every time. Also I dont know if I need to change mms setting or anything else, please someone help, I have been reading these boards for years and I cant find anything about usa tmobile settings
Look at the thread for the q-mobile rom in the upgrading section and theres settings there. theres also a cab that automatically sets up the settings which worked for me but its said that they are wrong.
Hello everybody, I'm writing you from UK, where I bought a second-hand G1 (absolutely perfect!!! really good). The phone is T-Mobile branded and factory-default cleaned. Once I got it, placed my italian H3G sim inside, and (of course...) it told me that it was locked. I purchased a key (...I know may I could do without it... but very few time to spend, these days) and it was succesfully sim-free. Then I reebot it, and start the acrivation... that doesn' run!!! I insered the correct APN parameters, I also tried with a UK O2 and Vodafone sim, but, problem is that the gsm segnal level (small icon on the top with 4 vertical bars) is not giving signs of life, and it has a small "cross" on the left side. Of course I can't get the registration... I can't get the line!!!! why does it happen??? all the sims are correctly recognized (ask for the pin and the "no sim" messages and icons are off), but no way to go over...
Please, help me in any way, just 1 more day here, then I'll go back to Italy... far from the shop!!!! HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!!
If you type:
reboot
and press enter. If the phone reboots you can have a chance, if the phone does not it means its on a updated version which you will have to downgrade. While downgrading i recommend going up to Rooted versions of android. Although you might not need it.
You should look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
and/or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316
You can get through your problem, if its just the registration. by simply following a few of the instructions in the first link combined with some of the instructions in the second link.
@elmejor: He didn't even mention rooting. His problem is he can't get his phone to associate with the networks on his sim.
@tony_m78: You should probably post what apn settings you are using. Also, this is NOT A DEVELOPMENT ISSUE and should not have been posted in this forum.
thanks gor your answer.... I have been to those links THOUSANDS of times, within yesterday night and today... but I really can't get a solution. I can't go over the "error connecting to server" page :-(
The worst problem is that I really don't have time NOW, but I'll have it at the end of the week; I know I'd get a solution, working on that... but really I can't. But whay do you think about the absence of segnal? is it normal?!?
Tomorrow morning I'll find the way to buy a T-Mobile original sim and try to see what happen. . . . . . but that's strange!!!!!!!! not normal... i insered a correct code (generated from the IMEI), the answer was "unlocked", free for others carriers.... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!! :-( tic tac tic tac. . . ..I don't have time!!!!!!!! :-( nobody experience this strange problem?!?
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@elmejor: He didn't even mention rooting. His problem is he can't get his phone to associate with the networks on his sim.
@tony_m78: You should probably post what apn settings you are using. Also, this is NOT A DEVELOPMENT ISSUE and should not have been posted in this forum.
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...oooooops... really sorry, I was wrong. Can you link me to the correct place??? I'll move there immediatly...
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@tony_m78: You should probably post what apn settings you are using.
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...I don't think the problem is the APN, I set the correct one (from Wiki) for H3G Ita and for O2 UK (these are the sim I tried with); the problem is that the segnal is ZERO, like the sim is not present... BUT IT IS, it ask me for the pin and accept it....
Can you manually select the network to connect to? Settings>Wireless controls>Mobile networks>Operator selection
Are you sure radio is working on this phone? Maybe it has some physical problems (like bad gsm chip)... Or - maybe you have sim cards not acceptable in UK.
Try with T-mobile sim first. If not working:
I would try to factory reset device some times, if it don't help I would try to reflashing it (firmware and radio). But in your case I think you should ask about this situation in shop where you bought it (if you have warraty) first.
Data plan?
I had a similar problem when I got my APD1 phone in the US. When I returned to the UK, I put in my Tesco SIM and the phone signal strength icon had an 'x' indicating not connected or no signal. Eventually I used my home wifi to activate the phone. After the phone was activated, the same SIM was able to connect and the signal strength icon worked normally.
BUT, it turned out that all I probably needed to do was to have a SIM with a data plan (which mine didn't at the time) <<BLUSH>>
Have you confirmed that your SIM has data turned on?
Of course ensuring that the APN settings are correct is also necessary. (But it sounds like you did that)
Have just got an xda off ebay - like everbody does from the sound of it.
appears unlocked, and can surf the internet via my wireless at home. only problem is put my vodafone sim in and says cannot connect to network. There's an exclamation next to the signal icon. Does this mean i cannot connect at all?
Have trawled the forums for answers but geting confused by all the jargon. Can anybody post the network settings or cab files for payg vodafone. all the current links i have clicked on just appear as a .gif, not a downloadable file
Getting fed up now as apart from the phone part i love my new toy
It's sounding as though it is not actually unlocked. The fact you can surf via WiFi has nothing to do with the SIM, my Alpine works just fine without a SIM in for that purpose.
Try the unlocking tool here on XDA-Dev to redo the removal of the carrier lock. I seem to recall having more success with the earlier version.
working or not?
the programme says it is unlocked, but exclamation still comes up - i guess i have to put in all the gprs and wap ect settings for it to connect properly?
samsung27
yes thats normaly how one get gprs to work unless the correct setting are preset
cab file correct?
have just downloaded the cab file for vodafone settings - but it just seems to contain one xml file?
looks like registry settings but no change to phone.
have tried to hard reset - power and reset at bottom but always get the o2 splash screen and radio settings never the personal or corporate file bit where you put in the serial no. am i doing the all wrong???
the unlock screen came and said that it was unlocked but still no joy as to using it as a proper phone
Here's a CAB for the Vodafone UK GPRS settings, i am on the monthly SIM onky contract so they may not work if you are PAYG.
finally got my alpine working - stuck in a new sim and topped up. installed spb phone suite and keboard as could not get wisbat to work with 2003 version of os. just need to get some latest themes and apps to get sorted. thanks for everybodies help
samsung27
changed providers again
yes it did work with vodafone for about 2 days then battery went flat. charged it up - no setings will not work.
stuck an new o2 sim in it and signal works registered etc. will wait to see if it does it again. other wise will just use it as an app and music pda
If you drained the battery completly , you will alweys lose all the settings.
You must charge it before it is completly drained.
At&t is my provider usa is their a cab file 31041 which will allow me to connect to at&t verses cingular? i've tryed manual would it allow network change i've notice after reset clear notice comes up 31041 not found. anyone has answer or away to solve this.
thx dave
I just got an SX66 and my current carrier is AT&T. I put my SIM card in the SX66 and cant get it to make any calls what so ever. Any Ideas please?
Windows Mobile v 4.21.1088 (Build 15005.1.2.1)
ROM 1.33.10 WWE
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welcome to the forum!
could you describe your problem a little further? is the sim card rejected, then you might want to sim unlock your device, a tool for that can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Unlock_Sim
The phone does not reject the SIM. It just wont connect to the AT&T network. Ive tried the unlocker and it dosnt work since the it recognizes the SIM. Ive seen everyone unlocking it for other services, but no one for AT&T so far.
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The phone does not reject the SIM. It just wont connect to the AT&T network. Ive tried the unlocker and it dosnt work since the it recognizes the SIM. Ive seen everyone unlocking it for other services, but no one for AT&T so far.
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Umm, last I looked, the unlocker programs don't care about the carrier you are on or trying to use, unless you are trying to lock the phone to a specific carrier.
The SX66 was originally sold by AT&T, so you shouldn't need to unlock it, unless someone locked it to another carrier.
Basic steps (not trying to insult anyone here):
Are you sure it's an SX66?
Does the SIM work any other phones? Which ones?
When you put your SIM in the phone and boot it, what does the display show? Any error messages?
Does the aerial icon at the top of the screen show any bars?
Checked the comm manager to make sure the phone isn't starting in airplane mode?
Also, unless I'm remembering incorrectly, that device is using the original OS, you might want to look into upgrading that ROM and radio stack.
I just upgraded the ROM to windows Mobile 6.5, and yes it is a Cingular branded SX66. The SIM card works in my AT&T LG Neon. It searches for the carrier, and just displays the exclamation point next to the antenna. The SIM is a blue and white AT&T card, with 3g on it.
And thanks for all the help.
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I just upgraded the ROM to windows Mobile 6.5, and yes it is a Cingular branded SX66. The SIM card works in my AT&T LG Neon. It searches for the carrier, and just displays the exclamation point next to the antenna. The SIM is a blue and white AT&T card, with 3g on it.
And thanks for all the help.
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Hmmm...
Potential issues:
Band coverage: Of the three bands the LG supports, the angel covers them, so non-issue
SIM type: This might be a problem. Mind you, I've not been an AT&T customer in years but I have heard of this kind of thing happening, where the SIM is a 3G-only SIM (not the case here as the LG isn't a 3G phone).
Making some guesses here...
The phone doesn't complain about not being able to read the SIM, but it can't associate with a tower. It might be the SIM just being too new and the angel hardware doesn't quite know how to deal with it. You wouldn't happen to have another SIM to test it with, or know someone with an older SIM or different carrier that you might be able to drop in the SX and see? It is possible that the hardware is just dead, but without other SIMs to test with, it's hard to say.
I know that I had a friend that had an AT&T SIM that went in a 3G phone. He borrowed my old T-Mo 2G Nokia (unlocked, of course) when his AT&T phone was pinched, and the Nokia couldn't deal with the AT&T SIM very well, and wouldn't register on the network.
Have you upgraded to the latest radio available, or is it still running the original? Remember, most ROMs do not have the radio stack as part of the upgrade image, it's a separate process.
(I really should look for parts for my angel and bring it back to full production level for nostalgia if nothing else. Sadly, it's got a flashing LED for the charging indicator at the moment, I think the battery I have is truly dead. I will have to look for the spare I had laying around.)
Ok, trying to upgrade the radio to 1.15 and it keeps giving me the ERROR 100: Model ID error. IS it because I upgraded the ROM to WM 6.5? And is there any way I can install the radio ROM with out downgrading?
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Ok, trying to upgrade the radio to 1.15 and it keeps giving me the ERROR 100: Model ID error. IS it because I upgraded the ROM to WM 6.5? And is there any way I can install the radio ROM with out downgrading?
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Wow, it's been a while since I looked at flashing a radio ROM on the BA... There appears to be multiple ways now. Have you followed the directions in the wiki, available here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade
Ok, so I upgraded the radio to 1.15 finally. And still, no connectivity with my SIM.
UPDATE: Just tried a T-Mobile SIM from my friends G1 and was able to make calls and connect. So Its must be my SIM card, for some reason....
EDIT: I just soft reset it with my AT&T SIM card in, and now it says that its connected to Cingular, however, I cannot make calls or send text messages.
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UPDATE: Just tried a T-Mobile SIM from my friends G1 and was able to make calls and connect. So Its must be my SIM card, for some reason....
EDIT: I just soft reset it with my AT&T SIM card in, and now it says that its connected to Cingular, however, I cannot make calls or send text messages.
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Hmm, interesting... Well since it worked with TMo, I don't think that the phone itself is bad. It looks like it's something with your SIM. You could try a different one (know anyone else on AT&T?), or check with the AT&T store and see if a rep can look up what info they have on the phone and swap out your SIM with one that is known to work with the phone.
Right now, that's all I can think of. If I think of anything else, I'll followup, but I do think that it's your SIM that is causing the issue at this point. I've never heard of anyone having to do anything special with one of those to allow calls to be made, much less send text messages (not picture messages, which do require some setup).