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ive upgrade my Orange SPV m3100 today to a TyTn II, and first signs are impressive, however a few little things annoying me, and ive tried searching for help but cant seem to find it.
1, SMS/MMS
this is a massive pain in the ass to me, before on the SPV, it was split and made life easier. but now its merged and is driving me insane for some unknown reason (possibly OCD lol)
2. SMS main screen
On the left soft key it now says "Delete". again on the SPV it was new, made life easier and faster rather than trawling menu for new messages
3. The main today screen. The quality HTC black screen with big clock isnt an option on Orange so it would appear. if so can anyone tell me how? its looks great on the HTC Touch yet on here i have either the crappy Orange side bar or standard Windows bars
4. Touch FLO. wat programs does this work on, cus mine seems obsolete on everything
sorry to be a mega noob, but wud appreciate some input on making this PDA truely awesome
Device Info
Op Vers: 24.181.1.612
ROM Vers: 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio Vers: 1.27.14.32
Protocol Vers: 22.45.88.07H
Cheers boys and girls
There is no way that you searched and didn't find the answers.
need to find better searching tricks, 1 advice would be to use google or just using a few key words in the forum's search tool
well i did search but "new sms" "delete" "mms" comes up with 32 pages. most of them reading thru, talk about new CABs, and for me thats a last resort, i no u think im being lazy, but after reading 100+ threads with no luck id thought id ask
I got the orange tytn ii before Christmas, and hated the Orangeness of the phone. Found the HTC plugin here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-home-plugin-v1-0.html
Install on phone, soft reset and then go to "settings", "today" and move to the items tab. Tick the HTC home (not the HTChomeplug) option.
For the black "theme" which is just the black background with a small htc logo in the bottom right and the black bars top and bottom:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/s.php?querywords=htc+black+theme
Again install on phone, soft reset go back to "today" and on the first tab select HTC_new_default
You will still have an orange battery charge icon on the top bar though. I've been happy to live with that!
much appreciated mate. ill have a crack at that when I finish work later.
managed to sort touch flo out aswell
ill carry on searching thru the sms threads, but in the mean time, if any one can point me in the right direction id be very greatful
cheers again
Jurassic Pork said:
much appreciated mate. ill have a crack at that when I finish work later.
managed to sort touch flo out aswell
ill carry on searching thru the sms threads, but in the mean time, if any one can point me in the right direction id be very greatful
cheers again
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You can find different versions of Arcsoft with the SMS/MMS split. However, it can cause problems when you install it overtop of the merged version. Your best bet is to read up on ROM Upgrading in the Kaiser Wiki, actually the whole Wiki, and then look for a cooked ROM that has the split version of Arcsoft loaded by default.
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You can find different versions of Arcsoft with the SMS/MMS split. However, it can cause problems when you install it overtop of the merged version. Your best bet is to read up on ROM Upgrading in the Kaiser Wiki, actually the whole Wiki, and then look for a cooked ROM that has the split version of Arcsoft loaded by default.
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He is correct. Messing with the Messaging system can bring on Gremlins. Best leave it be or get a ROM that has that from scratch. I've come to be ok with the combined SMS/MMS. At first I didn't like it but I'm fine with it. What I really disliked what the threaded SMS on 6.1.
Think you're stuck with the combined mms/sms. You could always make another folder and manually copy your received mms's over to that. Can't say it bothers me too much. Cure your OCD by convincing yourself that an mms is just an sms with an attachment!
Regarding the previous post. Once you have downloaded the cabs copy them into a folder on your phone (eg. my downloads) and install them, then soft reset.
Once you have it up and running you can go back to "today" (settings) and choose from the items tab what other notifications you want to display below the "big clock"!!
Top tip if you're with Orange. I managed to blag the Orange Business data tariff of 250mb per month for £8 per month including VAT. This rolls over as well!! Phone up customer services and ask (nicely) if they'll bolt it on for you. If not ask for the data tariff department and sweet-talk them.
nice one guys, many thanks, ill let u no how it goes in a bit
hey, spot on so far mate, any other tips? or things that are good to install, got msn so happy with that too
by the way ive got a great blag for the business net user, just wondering wat questions they asked?
no luck blagging , just out of curiosity, is anyone else having problems with IE lagging loads whilst u scroll down even tho the page has loaded?
That this next question can result in my death here on XDA, but I might as well ask it.
So I want to flash my rom, and so far I've read through all the steps and am almost ready, but I'm worried that if I do so, what will I lose on AT&T's network?
Do I have to get medianet back? And myisp? What do I have to do once I've flashed and everything?
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That this next question can result in my death here on XDA, but I might as well ask it.
So I want to flash my rom, and so far I've read through all the steps and am almost ready, but I'm worried that if I do so, what will I lose on AT&T's network?
Do I have to get medianet back? And myisp? What do I have to do once I've flashed and everything?
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The only thing you will lose is all the AT$T bloatware. Most of te custom roms all have auto config and will configure AT$T settings and Media net upon start up . I have a Tilt and never have to reset connection settings after flash, unless you are using some obscure rom from a chef in Siberia.
Josh, shifu,TPC ,Pheonix, Sakajati, Solace, b16b,abusalza ,Athine,ai6908,...etc, all have auto config.
Haha, alright man, thanks for the answer and not killing me.
Ok, new question. I've just literally spent the last 5 hours searching through XDA's forums looking for a mod with a few specifications, but have not found one.
I want Windows Mobile 6.1.
I DO NOT want Manilla 2D (I like landscape mode, and no Manilla 2D landscape hack works good).
I want Omnia/D3D Driver.
I want Opera (any version) w/ Flash lite 3.1.
I want it to be slightly modified with a black screen (a little more touch friendly).
Finally I want a good amount of RAM and Storage. Anything more than what AT&T's TyTN II give's me is fine.
So from any veterans out there, are there any suggestions? I'm not asking for the best ROM since I know that'll never be answered, but I need a ROM with all those specifications. There's no way I'm downgrading to AT&T's sad excuse for a ROM.
Seriously, I'm not tryin to be a lazy-ass, I've spent forever looking. Me being a newb/noob I can't tell if Lite versions or Naked versions are better.
Half the things you're looking for can be added by you. So that cuts it's down to finding a rom without manila. Mostly
...Mostly what?
Oh the suspense.
Alright then, just two specifications.
1. A finger-friendly WMO 6.1 ROM WITHOUT Manilla (I like my landscape).
2. Has the 3D hardware drivers.
There's probably many ROMs like that, but it seems all I can find are M2D or WMO 6.5. Not asking for the best, just what are some ROMs that you know of that has those two specs?
Quick message to the mods. All questions answered here (or in other threads). Thread can be closed/deleted.
Big thanks to denco.
i think you haven't used manila2d...
you should know:
1. ROMs that include manila2d don't FORCE you to use manila2d...you can just disable it and use any other today/home screen plugin that you like
2. the manila2d "landscape bug" affects manila2d ONLY. what i mean to say is that ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS will run perfectly fine in landscape mode with manila2d DISABLED. moreover, ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS will work perfectly fine in landscape mode with manila2d ENABLED, with the caveat that the device will switch to portrait the moment you return to the today/home screen where manila2d runs.
i recommend getting the APRIL 10th, 2009 Hyperdragon ROM by SAKAJATI (www.sakajati.com). it has the omnia d3d drivers, it is VERY stable, it is winmo6.1, it comes with manila2d (which you can simply disable), and it is a medium loaded ROM (i.e. not too many applications preinstalled and not very bare bones either). my signature says i am using it but actually i am not because i am exploring winmo6.5 these days but if i ever go back to winmo6.1, it would be the ROM i mentioned at the beginning of this paragraph.
Alright, one last quick question anybody. I just flashed, everything seems to be working OK. But I have a different radio. If I switch radios to the one the ROM tells me I need, will I still have AT&T's service (last noob question guys, I swear)?
I don't really understand what switching radios does besides making sure cameras/texting/phone calls all work (which is most definitely needed). But will I lose service with AT&T?
So now I've flashed and everything's worked. I guess taking a deepbreath and just going at it's the best way to approach flashing.
Any senior members mind linking me to the M2D Landscape thread? I know there was one with the two M2D Landscape projects, but I've lost it now.
And once again, for real for real this time mods, lock and end this thread.
Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE
what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.
oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps
joseph.sapri said:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260
Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.
yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha
sorry double post again..
Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1
Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
Correction !
orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!
Hi!
I am new to this forum but not new to HTC phones.
I just got a new HTC TD2 from ATT as the ATT Pure.
Great phone! and as of this Morning the MS Application store is working great.
questions I am sure many of us will have so might need a sticky
1. Bloatware - how do you get ride all the silly ATT apps/stuff?
2. if I load a new ROM from this sight will it be equal to or better then the RTM of 6.5? basically I don't want to loose the underlying features I just want generic + Radios + store (3G/4G)
3. if I load a ROM from here can I every go back to the factory ROM?
4. How do I: App-unlock, Phone-Unlock (if any) (not SIM unlock)?
5. Donation link - were is that!?
thanks in advance!
aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
flyboy009 said:
aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
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Thanks FlyBoy,
So you have a Pure did you reload it?
Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
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Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
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Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
aethicus said:
Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
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Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
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Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
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GTK! when you flashwith another ROM can you still go back to the factory ROM using a master reset? One would thing you are replacing the ROM in Flash and not the actual "ROM"
When you flash a rom you can't go back to stock unless you have the stock rom on a cd from your profider, read de faq's dude
Unless you know how to dump and recompile your stock rom you can't reflash it unless someone on here shares the pure rom which I think they have. Check out the ROM develpment section for Topaz.
I think you will flashing soon because Manila 2.5 kicks ass and the pure don't got it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567663
Excuse my ignorance here, but what is Manila?
Manila is Touchflo 3D. The HTC UI that sits on top of winmo
Question:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
ottoman96 said:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
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ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
rifter said:
ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
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Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
ottoman96 said:
Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
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You are correct
The Pure and Diamond 2 / Topaz are the same thing. Different casing and slightly different chipset, but otherwise the same phone.
Playing With Pure
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
BereanPK said:
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
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im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
ZILLA said:
im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
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That was my first guess too. Check and see if push internet is off. I don't remember how to get there since I'm using 6.5.1 and Leo Manila but it should be easy.
OK... tried this, and WOW! The wonders of what you discover about your new device when you ask! (after searching, of course)....
I skimmed over the "Push Internet" feature in Manila settings somewhere, but didn't give it much of a thought, since at the time I didn't know what it was - hey, my Tilt didn't have Push-Internet. But seeing how freaking SLOW everything, including SPB Mobile Shell (which I somehow prefer over Manila - I know, it's sacrilege!) was running, I took the advice here about Push Internet, searched on how to disable it, found this link to an article on PocketNow.com which links to a file created by one of XDA-Developers' own, and voila! Instant gratification... and an over 10MB Program memory availability jump.
Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction! Cheers!
-BereanPK