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I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard clone) and I noticed that my battery is completely drained from my device. I can't find my AC adapter but I have my USB cable to my PC but that won't start recharing it. I recently saw a post that if your battery is completely dead, the USB cable connected to the phone cannot recharge it as it must atleast have 1000mW to charge it? I have tried to find some specs and I want to know exactly what kind of AC adapter I need for that phone? a 5v 2000mW mini USB adapter or something? Not sure what I need. Any ideas?
here is one that u can use
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AUDIOVOX-AC...7092790QQihZ017QQcategoryZ11168QQcmdZViewItem
that is the one i have for my wizard
input: 100-240v/~0.2A 50-60Hz
output: 5V
Thanks Malik05,
I saw the specs on it and it does 5V-1A output. I was looking for a dealer in Canada and it seems that most cell phone stores only have AC adapters that ONLY do 0.2-0.5A which I tried and doesn't work. I couldn't find anyone selling a 5V-1A AC adapter.
raiden said:
Thanks Malik05,
I saw the specs on it and it does 5V-1A output. I was looking for a dealer in Canada and it seems that most cell phone stores only have AC adapters that ONLY do 0.2-0.5A which I tried and doesn't work. I couldn't find anyone selling a 5V-1A AC adapter.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OEM-TRAVEL-...ryZ15037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
there ya go, it should do the trick, if not, then try going to a tmobile store...but that eBay link should do it...
Do you guys think there is anything special to the charger? When its fully drained, my iPod charger with a mini-USB cable doesn't work either (output is listed as 5V 1.0A).
the only thing special between the wizard charger is that it needs a full 1A, not .5A when the battery is at absolute zero...as for the iPod, i dont discuss apple products, it will turn into a debate hehe...
Thanks for the link to the new dealer Malik05 but he only ships within the US. ( Not Canada ). I saw one other place that might sell an adapter on ebay but the shipping was like $28 for an ac adapter. I am getting abit worried that even an Ipod charger that DOES supply 5V-1A doesn't even charger the phone when it's batteries are completely dead. It doesn't give me much confidence that any other adapter will work. Do you have another ebay link to purchase one that will work?
iPod dosnt have the same connectors as the wizard, what exactly are you talking about?
Sorry if I caused some confusion, I'll try to clarify some things.
I'm having the same problem charging my wizard since I lost my AC adapter over the weekend. I do, however, have the charger from my iPod (which is just an AC adapter with a female USB connector). With this iPod charger and a mini-USB data cable, I used to be able to charge the phone, that is until now. The only difference I can think of, is because the phone's battery is now fully drained.
The iPod charger is listed as 5v, 1.0A and still charges my iPod (using the iPod's dock connector cable).
o okay...i just thought that ipod chargers had their own standard, but anyway..you may need the original wizard charger...becacuse ive seen this problem with Motorola phones, some RAZR phones will not charge unless it is a motorla branded charger...
Hi,
I just stuck here, cause I found a thread about fast usb charging. But there is no answers or solutions.
I have many htc devices. It seems that some of them has a problem with 3rd party usb chargers.
My most used device is Universal. It suck a lot of power. THis one doesn't enable usb charging at all, until you put it in sleep mode before pluging the charger.
Anyway, the same issue for Kaiser too.
The problem is, that it doesn't matter how much current is the charger able to deliver. They just use some kind of recognition of original chargers.
What I already measured: Original charger and universal running => takes 1200mA. 3rd party charger or my 5A PSU => Universal/Kaiser sucks just 500mA.
This is fast/slow charge. I found here discussion about 4 and 5 pins shorted??
But WTF which 4 & 5 pin?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
According to this pinout. It would be 2 GND of Audio side? I'm not sure that original charger use extUSB audio side to charge...? It also could be D & A pins, but I'm afraid to connect 5V to Data- pin.
Anyway, someone here have to know it.
If not, in a few days I'll try all possible combinations and post the results.
Thanks
Shef
I'd also be interested to know about this. When I charge my TYTN II via USB, it takes much longer to charge than if I charge it via the mains charger (I prefer USB since I travel a lot and it's one less charger I need to carry around).
Better still, is it possible to buy a USB cable that will charge at the same rate as the mains charger rather than messing with a USB cable with the associated risks?
Best,
Gary.
Shef said:
Hi,
What I already measured: Original charger and universal running => takes 1200mA. 3rd party charger or my 5A PSU => Universal/Kaiser sucks just 500mA.
This is fast/slow charge. I found here discussion about 4 and 5 pins shorted??
But WTF which 4 & 5 pin?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
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a usb port only supplies 500ma, while the wall charger does 1200ma as the OP has measured (although it says 1A at the back of the charger). changing a cable is not gonna superpower up your usb port.
unless maybe you get hold of a forked USB cable, like the one that Seagate Free Agent drives come supplied with... you know, 1 mini USB splitting halfway down to two normal USB plugs.
Worth experimenting with, do you think?
wyrm said:
unless maybe you get hold of a forked USB cable, like the one that Seagate Free Agent drives come supplied with... you know, 1 mini USB splitting halfway down to two normal USB plugs.
Worth experimenting with, do you think?
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good call.......with a little googling i came up with this
http://www.universaluk.com/acatalog...2_x_Type_A_to_mini_B__USB_2_0__1m__Lindy.html
tried ebay, my brief search came up with lots of unrelated results, so i gave up
I got one of those leads, came with my portable 2.5" hard drive. Just tried the lead on my Tytn 2 and it does charge almost as fast as the mains plug
Success
Ok, so, I tried to experiment.
Here you go.
Usb simple cable 480ma charge.
The same result with Motorola charger.
Motorola charger pins A and B short circuit - 890mA.
That's much better, althrough I suppose it can suck more current then 890mA, but it's significantly better.
THere is also pins data+ and data- short circuited (I don't know if it has effect, but I can't disconnect it in this connector).
Apparently NC (not connected) pin on our pinout schematics definitely is connected.
With % of charged battery it suck less and less current....I suppose it's usual, this should be even driven by ROM.
So, update your cables
It works even with car charger, so no more charger problems...
Shef
Just to be clear - you took a Motorola USB cable and shorted pins A and B (which are which by the way?) and it provides a decent current....
How do you short the pins? I've looked in the end of cable and I can hardly see the pins, let alone short them! What's the trick here or have I missed something?
Thanks,
Gary.
Shef said:
Ok, so, I tried to experiment.
Here you go.
Usb simple cable 480ma charge.
The same result with Motorola charger.
Motorola charger pins A and B short circuit - 890mA.
That's much better, althrough I suppose it can suck more current then 890mA, but it's significantly better.
THere is also pins data+ and data- short circuited (I don't know if it has effect, but I can't disconnect it in this connector).
Apparently NC (not connected) pin on our pinout schematics definitely is connected.
With % of charged battery it suck less and less current....I suppose it's usual, this should be even driven by ROM.
So, update your cables
It works even with car charger, so no more charger problems...
Shef
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Also interested in how to short the pins. I use Navizon, bluetooth HSDPA tethering, and iGuidance while on the ambulance and even my iGo 3A max rated charger can barely keep up because the tilt wont accept all of the available current.
So have anyone found a way to fast charge our ppc through usb??
Yes, that is correct. Short pins 4 & 5 (4 is normally NC) to enable fast-charging. If you do it correctly, the phone shouldn't pick up tethering, and therefore should not say "PC Connected" or the like..
The TracyAndMatt pinout is wrongly numbered. The pin assignments are correct, but the number/letter scheme they used is incorrect. True ExtUSB pinout translation to their pinout is as follows:
T & M Real ExtUSB
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Pins E D C B A = 1 2 3 4 5
Pins 1 2 3 4 5 6 = 6 7 8 9 10 11
The way I remember is that the corner opposite the angled one is where pin 1 starts (where E is on the T&M pinout) - and they go like most IEC-standard connectors, in a clock-like circular numbering scheme.
Here's a better pinout: http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extUSB_pinout.shtml
Hope this helps!
--W5i2
its the milliamps that is the problem even doubling up with a y splitter does not do much Find a charger with the most milliamps for a faster charge 1.2 amps works best and as far as i know no usb port puts out that much even if they are wired in a series. Many try to sell lower amp chargers they dont even know about it at att. if the screen is off they will charge but not well these phones are energy hogs. I must have at least twenty chargers and messed around with them... the original or one of highest amperage works for me.
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
htc_battery_trout.c said:
/* A9 reports USB charging when helf AC cable in and China AC charger. */
/* Work arround: notify userspace AC charging first,
and notify USB charging again when receiving usb connected notificaiton from usb driver. *
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I find this annoying. I can't tell if my wall charger is fast charging or not because the G1 always says "AC"
hgmichna said:
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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That is not going to help HTC owners.
HTC charging cable
kiss_se said:
That is not going to help HTC owners.
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http://winhlp.com/node/855 was explicitly written for HTC smartphone owners.
hgmichna said:
[...] was explicitly written for HTC smartphone owners.
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Sorry, I meant to say: That is not going to help extusb owners.
hgmichna said:
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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Is it possible to get one of the 'fast charge' enabled USB cables on eBay or elsewhere? I am not keen on doing the mod described.
What is the maximum mAh recommended for HTC devices? Is it still 1.2 A or more?
zurpher said:
Is it possible to get one of the 'fast charge' enabled USB cables on eBay or elsewhere? I am not keen on doing the mod described.
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Check http://winhlp.com/node/855#qaes for the only buyable solution I know, besides compatible chargers. Your best bet is probably the original HTC charger, available for roughly $10.
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What is the maximum mAh recommended for HTC devices? Is it still 1.2 A or more?
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There can be no recommended maximum mAh. There can only be a required current, which differs from device to device. Check Ohm's Law. The device determines how much current it draws. If the charger cannot deliver that current, then the charging process can fail in various ways, all undesirable.
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Check http://winhlp.com/node/855#qaes for the only buyable solution I know, besides compatible chargers. Your best bet is probably the original HTC charger, available for roughly $10.
There can be no recommended maximum mAh. There can only be a required current, which differs from device to device. Check Ohm's Law. The device determines how much current it draws. If the charger cannot deliver that current, then the charging process can fail in various ways, all undesirable.
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Could the USB Switching 2A Power Charger Adapter Convertor Plug be similar in function to the one that you've linked?
zurpher said:
Could the USB Switching 2A Power Charger Adapter Convertor Plug be similar in function to the one that you've linked?
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I don't know, but probably not. Apple used to use a different signalling scheme involving resistors.
Hi guys: Somethings wanted to share with you guys. never never put your phone to the car charger before you start the car. It happened to my HTC HD2 T9193 now it can not be charged or data xfer. the orange led not light up also there is no ac icon instead of battery icon on the display. now I have to use swapping battery instead of charge it. if you see this post your are a lucky guy to know this experience . by the way, anybody knows how much will cost to repair and where?
To play devil's advocate. How do you know what exactly caused your damage to your HD2? Did it happen the first time you connected it up that way?
that's the same problem some people had with the HTC tytn 2 when using cheap chargers from ebay...
Apperantly theres something missing to stop the car from pulling power from your HD2 while it's connected to the charger.
operative1 said:
that's the same problem some people had with the HTC tytn 2 when using cheap chargers from ebay...
Apperantly theres something missing to stop the car from pulling power from your HD2 while it's connected to the charger.
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Yes its cheap chargers without surge protection!
grayme said:
To play devil's advocate. How do you know what exactly caused your damage to your HD2? Did it happen the first time you connected it up that way?
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no. i was using the car charger couple times. i did not notice until the battery went out while the T9193 connected in the car charger.
[email protected] said:
no. i was using the car charger couple times. i did not notice until the battery went out while the T9193 connected in the car charger.
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...but: was it an original one, from HTC itself?
Yeah unless I have been lucky for so many years (knock on wood), it has to be a cheap or faulty charger because I hve llway had my phone changing when I am in the car. I have always used carrier sold charger's or a USB adapter and USB Cable. I do however remember reading about this a few devices ago.
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...but: was it an original one, from HTC itself?
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The usb cable is HTC and the charger is from ebay.
Does anyone know if all mini usb car chargers are the same voltage? Can i use any mini usb cig charger i have?
760hacker said:
Does anyone know if all mini usb car chargers are the same voltage? Can i use any mini usb cig charger i have?
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yes.............
suzook said:
yes.............
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Thanks man! Thats what I have always thought but I just wanted to be sure nothing had changed.
760hacker said:
Thanks man! Thats what I have always thought but I just wanted to be sure nothing had changed.
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Um... The incredible has a micro-usb port. You can't shove a mini in there.
And the answer is yes and NO. The charge voltage is always the same but different phones use different methods to get signaled for charging. For instance the iphone uses 2.7V across pins 2,3 to signal and 5V across 1,4 as I recall.
You won't do damage using the wrong one though. It just won't work and you'll scratch your head.
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And the answer is yes and NO. The charge voltage is always the same but different phones use different methods to get signaled for charging. For instance the iphone uses 2.7V across pins 2,3 to signal and 5V across 1,4 as I recall.
You won't do damage using the wrong one though. It just won't work and you'll scratch your head.
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His question still asked if he could use a mini usb charger for this phone, and no, he cant. The incred uses a micro-usb port, where a mini will just not fit.
Zabii said:
His question still asked if he could use a mini usb charger for this phone, and no, he cant. The incred uses a micro-usb port, where a mini will just not fit.
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Umm, no he asked "Does anyone know if all mini usb car chargers are the same voltage? Can i use any mini usb cig charger i have?" and larsdennert's answer was a direct answer to that exact question.
so this thing is a micro usb like the blackberry? gonna buy a big pack of usb cables for it and I don't wanna buy the wrong ones.
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the cable you should buy would then be USB A to micro B. Monoprice is sold out- I ended up buying from Amazon, but the shipping was a bit ridiculous
I just ended up getting a charger from wal-mart that was labeled for a Motorola, but it works fine since it is a micro USB
I have alot of motorola mini usb chargers... I bought a micro usb adapter for 6 bucks from radio shack... it charges and works as far as I can tell... only thing I notice is that the motorola is 5v-550mA not 5v-1A ... I dontk know if this will have any long term effect on the batteries... I think it just makes it charge slower
I don't know the difference between micro and mini, but I hope I can use the car charger I recently purchased for my Touch Pro for my new D.I.
I tried using the BB brand car charger and I got a message on my Dinc that I this manufacture was not compatible with the Dinc. WTF?
I've had no problems using any car charger that allows either changing tips (igo) or has a USB port so you plug the correct cable in. I even have an Apple car charger that works as long as I use the correct USB cable.
But now a slightly different question....
I notice the Incredible WALL charger says 5v at 1A, and my WALL chargers for Apple are 5v .5 A, so I assume the Apple charger works for Incredible, only slower charge, but is it same to use the Incredible Charger for the Incredible? I hate traveling with a zillion chargers.
Hi, Hello!
I have been a happy owner of oneplus 10 pro for some time now.
I bought an original wireless charger AIRVOOC 50W fo it, to my suprise the "warp" fast charging did not work...
I thought maybe the charger itself was demaged because the packing was open, i returned the product.
Ordered a new copy in another store, this time everything wrapped in foil.
Unfortunately, the new charger also does not charge with fast "warp" charging...
I do not know what the problem is, i connect the wireless charger to the original charger included with the phone, 80W with a USB A socket. Maybe it must be a wall charger with USB C type?
Please help me because i don't know what to do anymore....
Paul.Fib said:
Hi, Hello!
I have been a happy owner of oneplus 10 pro for some time now.
I bought an original wireless charger AIRVOOC 50W fo it, to my suprise the "warp" fast charging did not work...
I thought maybe the charger itself was demaged because the packing was open, i returned the product.
Ordered a new copy in another store, this time everything wrapped in foil.
Unfortunately, the new charger also does not charge with fast "warp" charging...
I do not know what the problem is, i connect the wireless charger to the original charger included with the phone, 80W with a USB A socket. Maybe it must be a wall charger with USB C type?
Please help me because i don't know what to do anymore....
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I would try a type c charger. That is what I use. I can try my wireless charger in a few days with a 100w charger for you that is type a.
Thank you for your answer, I have to be sure that it's the fault of the brick with the USB-A input, I don't want to spend money in vain, and unfortunately the original chargers from OnePlus are quite expensive.
So I tested mine with the 125w oneplus type a charger and my wireless charger works fine.
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Thank you for your answer, I have to be sure that it's the fault of the brick with the USB-A input, I don't want to spend money in vain, and unfortunately the original chargers from OnePlus are quite expensive.
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I am using my wireless charger with the 80W that comes with the phone too (cable A to C) and it's working great, I have the 50W wireless
Do you have the '' silent charging '' unset in the battery parameters of your phone?
Thank you for your interest and willingness to help!
The problem turned out to be the original cable that came with the phone.
After connecting the cable to the phone, vooc fast charging works, I disconnect it from the phone, connect it to the wireless charger and bang, vooc fast charging does not work.
I changed the cable for another one and it WORKS!...
A very strange problem, and very unusual, but most importantly, it is solved!
Thanks again and take care!