Problem with External GPS setting - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hi everbody i hope you are doing well
i have a problem with my tytnII External GPS
the problem is (i can`t change the external GPS setting)
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i can change only(Programs and Access) but not Hardware setting
which is (port and rate)
the port set to NONE
the rate set to 4800
i don`t know why
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i change about 5 roms but the same problem
i hope some one help me becuase the gps signal take long time to discovered and its slow
thanksssssss

You shouldn't have to change the external GPS setting as the TyTN II has an internal GPS receiver that works well.
Please read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1515157#post1515157
for more Information.
What application do you want to use with your GPS? In order to get a good GPS fix you should run QuickGPS as it gets the satellite data for your current location via different connections, this helps to jumpstart the GPS.
Robert

thanks brother for your help
iam using Destinator 7
and iam doing the QuickGPS update every 6 dayes
..........
but the problem as i tell before its take time to discover the GPS signal
thanks alot

I have no experience with destinator on the TyTN II. As far as I have understood the thread I mentioned it might mean that you'll have to hard reset to start from scratch if you have messed with the "external GPS" settings. Other than that, setting destinator to use the internal GPS on COM4 with a baud rate of 4800 should be enough. Do you get a fix after 3-10 minutes, this is what it can take if you use it for the first time?
There's another thread just on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385286&highlight=radio+gps+fix
with a similar problem, maybe GPS test offers a solution for you.
Other than that, ISTR that during my time lurking in this forum (ca. past 6 weeks) there were some threads relating slow/no GPS fixes to radio issues. What radio/rom combo are you using?
Maybe a regular of the forum can chime in here and suggest a radio to try.
Robert

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help with gps on kaiser

ive got a kaiser and i cant get GPS to work.it asks for external connection.surly theres a setting for on board.i have copilot 7 legit software.im on o2 network pay&go.any HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
mattdehat said:
ive got a kaiser and i cant get GPS to work.it asks for external connection.surly theres a setting for on board.i have copilot 7 legit software.im on o2 network pay&go.any HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
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Uggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh! SEARCH SEARCH and SEARCH!
Make sure you have GPS set to something like "internal GPS" and the baud rate set to 4800 and the COM port set to COM4.
gps
found setting still no go.struggling
I had a hiccup with the GPS lately. I installed and ran "GPSTest" and it helped sort things out for me (can be found in this post).
It may take 3-30 minutes to get a HDOP score (as mentioned in the linked post), but at least you'll know your GPS receiver is functioning properly. Then you can address the Copilot issue.
gl
gps probs
hi installed this prog and 1hour later still no gps function,the prog is just trying to find signal to no avail.please help
run quickgps, hit download, then start ur gps program......and go outside
done this already.still no gps signal.tried set up again and again.works fine via bluetooth receiver.might as well of stuck with xd2i for all this hastle.getting cheesed off.more help needed and much appreciated.thanks
This Is Now Solved Many Thanks TO XtreMe_G for prog link and Once Again To All At Xdev
I had the same problem with the gps not receiving a signal, I had to wait 15 minutes the very first time, now it connects after a few minutes everytime!

My diamond GPS does not work

Hello,
I am trying since yesterday to make my GPS working, with no success. Everytime, I got the following message:
Cannot find port com. I do not know what the problem might be. I tried all Ports (from COM 0 to COM 12, and all Baud rates). Tried 3 differents GPS applications. Memory Map tells me for Port 0 GPS communication timeout...
In addition, I tried to play with the External GPS. I tried with Manage GPS automatically on and off. Still the same..
I begin to think my GPS unit is defective...
Any ideas would be appreciate.
Thanks very much in advance,
Philippe
did you change settings in the gps control panel?
the default settings can be left alone. COM4. Baud rate should be automatically handled and unless you enabled AGPS any baud rate will do, if you enabled AGPS then I think you have to use 2400 as your Baud.
I just noticed the GPS harddware port in setting, system External GPS is not saved when you click ente.
Exemple I choose COM4, and Baud rate: 4800. I click OK. When I reclick exernal GPS, Hardware, I have got ''none for GPS hardware port. I do not know if it might be one of the reason why the GPS does not work.
Note: I just flashed the new rom: 1.35.401.3 WWE. Might it be a bug in this ROM (just question?)
Philippe
I can cofirm TomTom working with COM4 and baud 57600. Signal pickup can be time hungry, tho. Sometimes I get a fix in 20 seconds, sometimes it takes as much as 10 minutes.
no problem using mapking...
Hello,
And thanks everybody for your help. I just updated to the new Elite 1 ROM, and now it works like a charm....Very good...
I do not know if there is many francophones on this forum, but there is a new french forum about the Diamond:
http://htc-touch-diamond.forumactif.info/index.htm
Not very busy yet, but....
Cheers,
Philippe
Same problem... The tomtom 6 don't detect my integrated gps... if i chose the wired and put ports like say before, it don't work too.. Any way for detect integrated gps?
Here are exactly my setting:
Setting system External GPS:
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: None
Baud rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically is checked.
So open your GPS program, choose COM Port 4, and baud rate: 4800.
Should work. If not, flashthe new Elite ROM. It could help too.
Philippe
I can't flash the rom, it will make the warranty expire... And the mobile isn't mine, it's destined to be selled, i work on a gsm shop...
got exactly opposite problem - when I leave these default settings in "External GPS" CPL, the Diamond will suck my batterry within several hours, as if the GPS was still ON. have found out that if I disable all settings in this CPL, it stops sucking power (but then I can't use the GPS, obviously) - any clues or solutions?
I HAD to enable Windows Mobile manages automatic in External GPS in 'settings'. Check if it is enabled.
Disabling it made GPS never work.
Strange?
Yes, unless I restored all settings to their original values (Virtual port - COM4, HW port - None, Managed access - checked), I was not able to use the GPS. But these were exactly the settings I was having the battery drain issue with... I miss the GPS LED indication vastly...
I am have this problerm too...
Solution : make hard reset.. no more!
And all will be ok ... about GPS.
i have same proplem
i have same proplem when i updat to the new rom 1.93
I have a similar Problem.
I Updates my ROM to the new branded one from O2-Germany and since then my GPS is not working anymore. in GPSMapware I get device.exe errors and TomTom7 keeps searching and searching and so on...
The old O2 ROM has no GPS problems and every software got a loc in about 10 - 20 seconds.
But the most intresting point is that my brother has a Diamond too and no GPS problems at all.
I think I will get a new one from O2 before flashing it and loose my warrenty
Telus CDMA Diamond
I've got problem too. First Diamond I had no problem with GPS, something happened with the phone I had to exchange, and new one (phone) GPS wouldn't pickup Sat. I'm on Telus CDMA. Maybe they removed physically on the second batch of Diamonds.
My GPS doesn't work too well either. I can usually get a fix eventually when outside with a clear view of the sky but in the car it is hopeless. I use TT7 and the GPS status screen shows that the Diamond can see maybe half a dozen satellites or so but with very low signal strength. The bars stay grey for ages and then eventually three or four will turn blue and all the time the battery is draining like crazy. I also have a Holux GPSlim 256 and with that I get a fix much faster and the signal strength is much higher. I can also use it in the car with no problem.
I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with the GPS performance of the Diamond and from the number of posts in this forum from people with similar problems I would suggest that there is a design flaw or very poor quality control. I had an XDA Orbit 2 for a while and that was far superior.
Me too
my diamond have the same problem too.
it was working with the old rom's and the early new
but later with new rom's it is locked, I don't know why or how to fix it.
then I back to the last good one but still locked.
it seem's working fine, because the software is detect the gps device and also detect it on port 4 and baud speed, but without signal any more.
I used Garmin, Destenator, iGo, fanaeen, and gps test.
and I try to use all avaliable solutions
I used all diamond rom's here and used all radio version's even the hardspl I changed it too with no succeed.
any advice would be help!
thanks in advanced
Hi,
I own two diamonds and I also found problems with the GPS in both of them. Probably mine is not the same you are describing. What I get is the following:
Running TT7, the GPS works but TT7 map in the screen remains in grey color. Rarely it shows color for some seconds and l"oses signal" again. It navigates, but no messages on proximity of POIs work. Also, when driving, if TT7 is forced to recalculate (every time I do not follow the instructions), it forgets about the required destination. In the GPS configuration option within TT7 it does not show satellites, the bars are empty and the coordinates shown are grey... but showing values!
Finally, I found the reason. I use Bluefire VPN, a piece of software to connect securely to my company. The GPS and Bluefire cannot live together.
I have tried everything: TomTom 6, changing COM port (many combinations)for the GPS, A-GPS on and off... No way.
It worked perfectly in P3600. I tried many ROMS and pieces of software without problems but in the Diamond I haven't been able.
Perhaps the reason is some resident code of Bluefire. Don't know. In any case, if this is a case similar to any of you, my advice is the following:
Hard reset, install TT7 and maps and test the GPS. If it works, start installing software until it crashes.
In my case, the GPS is always dead after the soft reset required after the installation of Bluefire, and it works again after another soft reset once Bluefire is uninstalled.
Hope it helps and hope somebody can also help me solve this issue.
SOLVED
Hi guys
Here is my solution.
First you have to flash 1.13.25.24 radio rom sometimes it can be solve the problem.If not you must open your phone with Htc service manual and find gps coaxial cable and check it.Sometimes it can be pulled out.Mine antenna was unconnected and gps couldnot find any satellites.Sorry for my bad english.

Intermittent GPS

Hi all, yesterday i've changed the "external gps settings":
COM8 For virtual GPS port and COM 4 as Hardware GPS port, baud 9600.
Today i was using my GPS the first time after the settings descripted before...
The GPS Works, but at regular intervals of 2 sec, then stops for 10 sec (No GPS Found with Tomtom) and works again.....
Now i have 3 questions:
1) Can i solve this WITHOUT an Hard Reset??
2) If i disable the Virtual com port, tomtom DON'T let me choose another COMport (it skips the Comport configuration page) and, when it allows me to select the right port, the COM4 isn't there
3) There are A LOT of comport into "External GPS Settings", some starting with COM..X and others ports named GPD..X ..... What type of ports are??
(Ps: i have already installed tomtom again)
Did you try to disable AGPS?
I have only seen this problem when AGPS is enabled (via advanced config) too
Also the defualt GPS COM ports is 4 and baud rate of 4800 (should be no need to change this) and why mess with external GPS settings when the device has internal GPS?
I have same problem on iGO8 with AGPS enabled.
You guys are right! The A-GPS was ON (strange, i don't remember i've activated it)
If i play with the external gps app is because i would to share the same com port to 2 gps apps.....
BTW when i set the com4 in Hardware port, reopening the app it disappear.
Now i have Agps disabled, External gps app "void" and tomtom don't let me choose the comport (it switch from baud speed to mainscreen)
Hmm, I had no problem at all using GPS at standard settings for:
Igo
TrackMe
GoogleMaps
at the same time!
Riel said:
Hmm, I had no problem at all using GPS at standard settings for:
Igo
TrackMe
GoogleMaps
at the same time!
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diamond has disabled agps out of the box.
Hmmm I had no problems the first couple of times I tried iGo when I first got the device. Then I tweaked it, enabled AGPS and all hell broke loose (presumably due to this setting, though not 100% sure since I changed lots of things). Disabled it on my own, trying to back-track, now it's better but I still got problems with GPS lost...
By the way, is there any use setting COM4 to high speeds? Does it reall improve performance?
I had the same problem after flashing the actual rom build from HTC club. I am currently sticking to this one in italian and no problem at all.
P.S.: Just noticed you're from my same city
All ok now, i suppose that if we leave blank the GPS port (no HW port) into first COM screen of external gps app, tomtom skip the comport settings screen, and don't allow you to choose another one.
I've Hardresetted my pda yesterday, and i've seen that out of the box, the diamond has COM4 selected by default.
I don't want to change anything now (i have no time in those days to do another Hard reset) BUT, if you have problems regarding the GPS COM Settings screen in tomtom, try to set the COM4 into GPS PORT (not hardware port) of the "External Gps" app.
hello everyone
i have the same problem of signal GPS lost and coming back after a few minutes of use (i use IGO 8), then lose again, then back again, and so on.
I installed the new flash rom from HTC eclub, (QMR-RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe)
Even if i disable the a-gps using advance config, the problem is still there.
Do you think that problem comes from that new HTC ROM ?
Any solutions?
NO... I had the same problem on old ROM very rarely and solved with Quick GPS , I will see if the problem persist on new ROM...
I had this disconnecting problem too with Tomtom 7,
now with Bepe 0.98 and radio Radio v1.00.25.07, all is OK, no disconnect at all this morning ( 2 hours of GPS use ).
But I don't know what resolve the problem, Bepe's ROM or the new .07 radio
my diamond refuse to accept setting for hardware port and rate......
it always displayed the default (hardware none ,,port 4800)
and always intermittent gps signal...
can u help me?
hmh79 said:
my diamond refuse to accept setting for hardware port and rate......
it always displayed the default (hardware none ,,port 4800)
and always intermittent gps signal...
can u help me?
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Never mind the setting. Is AGPS disabled?
yes its disabled...
A bit strange, mine works perfectly with iGo, it even updates the position (almost) continuously when in pedestrian mode.
Perhaps you could try an auto detect from your GPS program to reset the link. By the way, what soft are you using?
well im using garmin xt and navigon...garmin display that the program and hardware is com:4
thank u for being patient with me....
I know Garmin works on the Diamond, so I'm running out of ideas... I remember reading that some VOIP programs screw the GPS. Did you install any such program?
If not, what I would do is back up my contacts and calendar and do a hard reset to see if this solves the problem. A bit painful, but will certainly answer the question whether there is something wrong with your hardware or not.
well.. i have changed the rom to karmba version, and it works fine for the last 6 hours..
gps functioning well.
may be the fault was in my previous rom (SwiftBL-WWE-Diamond-ROM-v5-5-Lite)
thank you very much for your help

[SOLVED] GPS has stopped working - wtf is going on...?

Over the last few days I have noticed that my GPS is not really working anymore. I'm not sure if this is a result of some software I've loaded or whatever, but I've noticed a few people saying that they are no longer locking onto satellites and noone is really sure what they've done - although there is a thread about the new Clove extended battery and many have mentioned that it stops the GPS from working.
I'd like to get everyone who is having problems to post here please so we can try and work out what the cause is. Some have speculated that it could be the radio but I don't think it is, I've flashed every single radio available with no change...
When I first got my diamond, I was IMPRESSED at the speed and accuracy of the GPS. I would get locks in around 10-15 seconds and using TomTom 7 I found it to be extremely accurate with regards to my position on the map.
Now it SUCKS. The other day I drove and it took 18 minutes to get a fix. When it finally did I estimate it was between 50m - 100m inaccurate. Some kind of lag is going on.
As of the last two days, I cant even seem to track ANY satellites. Since then, like I mentioned I have tried every radio and still the situation remains bad.
- I'm running a cooked ROM based on the 1.93.xx.x. (Elite 3.0)
- Current radio is .11 which seems to work well for my push email. (.05 worked well too) Other than that over the last couple of days its just been push email, a few texts and calls and really nothing else special I'm doing with the device.
Can anyone having the same problems please post here with your ROM version and let us know what your experiences are.
Thanks.
I have the same problem
Rom 1.93 - swift.
radio .05
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
sonyuk143 said:
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
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No.. Its just the GPS data thats used by the gps to get a quicker lock on the satelites.. Which then only saves you time.. It does not cost you anything besides the trafik it uses to update the data..
sonyuk143 said:
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
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gps is for free, the "4 days" corresponds to the time which your device
has the almanach data for faster satellite lock in it's memory. after this time
quickgps will download the alamanach data for the next 7 days, and so on...
if you don't use this feature you still can use gps, but obtaining a fix will
take you a longer time!
regards,
markus
Please look at my post at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408560
I have noticed that it is also dependent on the Rom. I am into flashing different roms and have seen different behaviour of Gps with each rom.
But HARD reset is a must after each flash.
Let me know your findings.
Got my GPS working in TomTom..
Steps i took:
1: change in PPC the gps port to COM6 - So still at Baud 4800
2: TomTom - Gps configure - "Other NMEA GPS reciver" - Baud 4800 - "COM6"
3: Closed TomTom
4: changed in PPC the GPS port back to "COM4" - still baud 4800
5: TomTom - Gps configure - "Build in gps"
And done.
I have this problem- the GPS seems to get worse and worse after a hard reset or rom upgrade to the point where it won't lock on at all.
I have noticed that in TT7 a number of satellites are being found (in the gps menu)but they are greyed out. Despite this it just won't lock on however long i leave it.
I notized that I was sometimes unable to track any satellites because I swiched on "A-GPS" in the registry with some kind of editor. After switching it off the problem was gone.
Greetz
Yes, Advanced Config destroy your GPS if you use it to turn on A-GPS.
Try reflashing the Radio with the same build as you are using already. It resets the GPS and did the trick for me.
How can you turn on A-GPS in the registry? Which key is it?
I have the same problems: when I use the GPS, it finds some satellites and not, and back it finds them, and not. When I use tomtom 6, the screen turns grey and colored every 5 sec., because it finds the satellites and not.
Sometimes it works good, but mostly not.
Can somebody help!!!
ROM: 1.35.404.4 NLD
Rom date: 05/30/08
Radio: 0.93.25.NS26
Protocolversion: 52.26.25.09H
jonnytheponny said:
How can you turn on A-GPS in the registry? Which key is it?
I have the same problems: when I use the GPS, it finds some satellites and not, and back it finds them, and not. When I use tomtom 6, the screen turns grey and colored every 5 sec., because it finds the satellites and not.
Sometimes it works good, but mostly not.
Can somebody help!!!
ROM: 1.35.404.4 NLD
Rom date: 05/30/08
Radio: 0.93.25.NS26
Protocolversion: 52.26.25.09H
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There is a little tool which is called "HTC GPS TOOL(S)", dont remember the exact name.. there you can search for satelites using the "cold start" option.. when some satelites are found, then push the "Nav. Init." buttion", dont close the program, just start TomTom and se if it did lock? .. Some reported this method working..
ostendk said:
Got my GPS working in TomTom..
Steps i took:
1: change in PPC the gps port to COM6 - So still at Baud 4800
2: TomTom - Gps configure - "Other NMEA GPS reciver" - Baud 4800 - "COM6"
3: Closed TomTom
4: changed in PPC the GPS port back to "COM4" - still baud 4800
5: TomTom - Gps configure - "Build in gps"
And done.
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I did things a little differently to yourself, but certainly your general method has solved the problem!
Firstly, and I don't know if this is a result of the radio version I'm running but I only have COM4 and COM7. Running radio .11
Secondly, within TomTom I simply configured the GPS, I changed to other NMEA receiver, selected COM4, and Baud 4800, and then within about 10 seconds, I had a lock. This is after days of not getting a lock at all.
Restarted TomTom, switched back to 'Internal GPS Receiver' and almost instantly locked again.
Problem solved!
I had done many ROM updates and not noticed this effect, I believe now thinking back this must have been a direct result of updating the radio only from version .03 to .05
I will update the thread title.
salada2k said:
I did things a little differently to yourself, but certainly your general method has solved the problem!
Firstly, and I don't know if this is a result of the radio version I'm running but I only have COM4 and COM7. Running radio .11
Secondly, within TomTom I simply configured the GPS, I changed to other NMEA receiver, selected COM4, and Baud 4800, and then within about 10 seconds, I had a lock. This is after days of not getting a lock at all.
Restarted TomTom, switched back to 'Internal GPS Receiver' and almost instantly locked again.
Problem solved!
I had done many ROM updates and not noticed this effect, I believe now thinking back this must have been a direct result of updating the radio only from version .03 to .05
I will update the thread title.
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I did actually update to the .05 radio, which after i had the satelite lock problem.. but haven't had i since i did that little com-port exchange
Hi,
After an hard reset un my Diamond and after instalall the .net framwork 3.5 my gps dont work anymore. When i turn it on connects the gprs and stay lots of minutes finding the sattelites.
Before the hard reste i have the tomtom working perfectely and never my htc connects the gprs for noting.
Can anyone help me please.
Regards,

Diamond GPS doesn't fix satellites

hi, i have installed TomTOm7 and Sygic Traffic GPS together on my Diamond and now the device doesn't fix satellites...the settings for external GPS are: COM4 port, baud 4800 (default settings) and the softwares are setted correctly.
What do you advise me to check?
thank you
Try GWatch .5
Getting a fix on a satellite is a problem with the Diamond and Pro. I had this issue with TomTom 7 too with radio v1.02.25.28. I installed GWatch .5 (app found in this forum). Start it and go to GPS (1st button) then to settings. Select COM4: and baudrate 9600 and NMEA then select Activate GPS on the same screen. Select the Check and wait for Valid satellite to appear. On locked, minimize and start TomTom7. Go to GPS setting and select Other NMEA GPS then baudrate 9600 on COM4:
Hope this helps.
i'll surely try this issue...but i think it's a little bit complex way...but if you say that this problem is known for Diamond and Pro..hope there will be changes with new roms and radios!
did you recently upgrade your radio rom?
if so try a gps cold start using HTC GPSTool.
strange thing happened...i just installed GWatch .5 and tried to make it fix satellites...it gets to 8 valid satellites but doesn't fix!I turned off GWatch and restarted TomTom, and in quite a minute he got satellites fixed...after cold fix then only few seconds to fix again satellites...very very strange!Yesterday i spent more than an hour trying to make that s*** fix satellites!
I haven't upgraded radio since I installed 25.05 few months ago...i just had an hard reset 5 days ago.
What exactly is HTC GPSTool?
Thank you
i forgot...i have A-Gps disabled with Diamond Tweak 0.5.3 and in some case i start No-Data to block internet connections just before starting TomTom!
even i have issues the first time i try to get a fix after hard resets. Once i do, its fairly quick
i upgraded hardSPL, made hard reset of course..upgraded infos in quickgps...the fix is now immediate...hope everything goes so well!
SOLVED
Hi guys
Here is my solution.
First you have to flash 1.13.25.24 radio rom sometimes it can be solve the problem.If not you must open your phone with Htc service manual and find gps coaxial cable and check it.Sometimes it can be pulled out.Mine antenna was unconnected and gps couldnot find any satellites.Sorry for my bad english.

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