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Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!
There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.
Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)
Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.
Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!
Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!
Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Anyone?
Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez
Hi.
I have upgraded my phone with htc windows mobile 6.1
I have reinstalled original Sprite backup 5.1 shipped with the phone. I have followed the instructions to restore my latest back up with the added upgrade exe. from sprite site
The first time I tried my phone was frozen for over an hour until I restarted.
Second time reboot with a white and black screen scared the crap out me!
Third attempt phone freezes at my contacts
Any help will be awesome
AGY said:
Hi.
I have upgraded my phone with htc windows mobile 6.1
I have reinstalled original Sprite backup 5.1 shipped with the phone. I have followed the instructions to restore my latest back up with the added upgrade exe. from sprite site
The first time I tried my phone was frozen for over an hour until I restarted.
Second time reboot with a white and black screen scared the crap out me!
Third attempt phone freezes at my contacts
Any help will be awesome
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Wish I had a better answer for you, but when upgrading a ROM, assuming that you've upgraded from WM6.0 to WM6.1, it is not recommended to restore backups or problems such as what you've encountered *WILL* occur.
You will just need to install everything from scratch. Try out Tiermann's TierAutoinstall, Bengalih's SASHIMI or Sleuth255's User Customization for semi-automated installation. Search for it and you will find it!
I was try many software for backup whit my HTC TyTN II whit WM 6.1 like Sprite backup, HTC backup, SPB Backup and another cant remenber.
The only one work fine is the Resco Backup software.
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Wish I had a better answer for you, but when upgrading a ROM, assuming that you've upgraded from WM6.0 to WM6.1, it is not recommended to restore backups or problems such as what you've encountered *WILL* occur.
You will just need to install everything from scratch. Try out Tiermann's TierAutoinstall, Bengalih's SASHIMI or Sleuth255's User Customization for semi-automated installation. Search for it and you will find it!
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Alex
Thank you
I will give it a try. my only concern is my contacts
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Alex
Thank you
I will give it a try. my only concern is my contacts
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Downgrade back to your original ROM, restore your backup and then sync your PDA with your computer so that your contacts are stored there. Copy off anything else before upgrading back to WM6.1. Once WM6.1 is on, sync with your computer again and contacts, emails, etc will be synced to your PDA. Then start re-installing your apps.
Long and tedious process unfortunately...
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Downgrade back to your original ROM, restore your backup and then sync your PDA with your computer so that your contacts are stored there. Copy off anything else before upgrading back to WM6.1. Once WM6.1 is on, sync with your computer again and contacts, emails, etc will be synced to your PDA. Then start re-installing your apps.
Long and tedious process unfortunately...
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Alex
Thanks for the tip I just did it before your post and I got back my contacts!
I have a tilt with the built-in spirit backup. I tried to use it but when I did the restore after updating the rom, alot of the programs wasn't restored properly or registry info was changed back to befault. I thought Spirit was supposed to restore everything after a hardrest or a rom upgrade? Did I do it wrong or something? Because of this, my computers all want to resync all the contacts and everything all over again, which is a pain as it takes hours to resync(thats another issue, but not related to this)
Hard-reset. Yes.
Rom upgrade. No.
And the built-in sprite backup was a trial. Did you buy it? If not you're screwed. Sorry man.
Sprite is retarded in a lot of ways. You should start using PIMBackup and -UC-.
Kraize
I used the one that came with the Tilt. Ok, so what I seen already, I got screwed. What program is good to do a complete backup, where I won't need to resync(where it thinks its a whole new phone) with my activesync after the restore?
starstreak said:
I used the one that came with the Tilt. Ok, so what I seen already, I got screwed. What program is good to do a complete backup, where I won't need to resync(where it thinks its a whole new phone) with my activesync after the restore?
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The full version of Sprite is by far the best backup utility out there. SPB Back Up would come in a close second.
Sprite (full version) has an option for retoring to an "upgraded" rom. But my opinion is, if I change the rom all together (not just a hard reset) I am manually loading all my programs.
Test both extensively before purchase.
spirit backup says i don't have enough memory on my card but i have almost a gig empty. this just started. please help
by the way, this happens when i try to backup . thanks
I have a german Kaiser here, removed simlock with the tools from this site.
2 Questions:
After Updating to WM 6.1, will the simlock be still gone, or do I have to unlock the phone again.
Is the update worth it ? Htc tells on their site, that all stored data will be lost (ok i have to do a backup), but will WM 6.1 bring so much improvements that i should take the work ?
djtwok said:
I have a german Kaiser here, removed simlock with the tools from this site.
2 Questions:
After Updating to WM 6.1, will the simlock be still gone, or do I have to unlock the phone again.
Is the update worth it ? Htc tells on their site, that all stored data will be lost (ok i have to do a backup), but will WM 6.1 bring so much improvements that i should take the work ?
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Not sure about the Stock HTC ROM, but I am using The Lone Ranger's (TLR 6.1) and love it.. I would do it. BTW the sprite backup will not restore a 6.0 ROM to 6.1 ROM.
So there is no way to backup my data first and restore it to 6.1 ? Then i wont do it, too much calender entrys, contacts, etc. installed.
Edit: Sprite Backup Homepage says that it is possible to restore after a rom upgrade:
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=349&back=search.aspx?
i don't think i've seen anywhere that someone has succesfully restored a back up after upgrading, spb back up has a force restore after rom upgrade but i've never tried it personally, for me i would rather start clean and not risk any file corruption or problems right from the start.
I used a freeware app called PPC Pim Backup, it dosen't update your settings or files like Sprite Backup does, but it does backup all of your contacts, text messages, appointments, just about everything that would sync with outlook and a few things that don't.
I was able to use a backup created when my Tilt was at Wm 6.0 and successfully restore it to after I had reflashed my phone to WM 6.1.
The only downside was the first time I opened my inbox, I had to wait about 10-15 minutes or so for WM 6.1 to thread every single text message I had ever receieved or sent, but after that it worked fine.
Thanks for the tip with pim backup. worked great and the simlock is still gone after the update.
I wish I wouldve known about pim backup before I updated. anybody have a link to the 6.0 rom, so I can go back and start over?
KevinAlbrecht said:
Not sure about the Stock HTC ROM, but I am using The Lone Ranger's (TLR 6.1) and love it.. I would do it. BTW the sprite backup will not restore a 6.0 ROM to 6.1 ROM.
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Yes it does, I have restored all my contacts. mails, texts and diary when I went from WM6.0 to WM6.1 using Sprite backup, with no fuss at all.
funem said:
Yes it does, I have restored all my contacts. mails, texts and diary when I went from WM6.0 to WM6.1 using Sprite backup, with no fuss at all.
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Weird, mine gave me a black screen, then froze up, you must've been lucky, or something.
RuizGT said:
Weird, mine gave me a black screen, then froze up, you must've been lucky, or something.
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No, I only restored the data and no other files. if you restore anything else your asking for trouble
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No, I only restored the data and no other files. if you restore anything else your asking for trouble
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How would you restore just data files?
sounds like he only restored files that sync, not reg hacks or system files, settings.
I'm new to this, but I ran Sprite backup on Q-Mobile 1.2, intending to upgrade to a WM 6.1 ROM. I tried a couple of WM 6.1 ROMs (Romeos 4.5.3, Garmin DK.3 Final, Dutty's NO4, and Virtual Vista 2.10), and was able to get my SMS messages, contacts and all that good stuff, but was unable to get my MMS messages.
Since I don't really know what I'm doing, I didn't poke around too much, but when I reloaded the Q-Mobile ROM back on, and ran the Sprite restore program, all of my SMS and MMS messages showed back up. I suppose it has something to do with the SMS/MMS directory structure in the WM 6.1 ROMs that I was trying out, but don't really know.
Just my .02. If someone knows what's going on, I'd be very appreciative if they could clue me in. Thanks
So is everyone talking about the AT&T WM6.1 ROM update from HTC from here:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
If so, has anyone had any issues with it with how it works? Any issues with the radio, etc? I downloaded but have not upgraded my Tilt yet.
Thanks
Flandrel
Does PIM Backup back up texts generated with the stock 6.1 threaded-text app?
Sounds like a handy little util if so.
I suggest SPB backup. It is available from their website and the trial version has five free runs of backup.
I used it and restored all reg edits, dta, programs, mail, three email a/c's, contacts et al. It would freeze up and not restore *anything* at all the first few times but then I unchecked the 'stop all processes prior to backing up' in the advanced menu dialog before proceeding with the backup and it did the job.
I recommend creating a stand alone restorer so that you don't have to install SPB backup again on the 6.1 rom.
I went from a stock 6.0 unbranded to a stock 6.1 off the HTC website. Waiting on my warranty to legally expire in Feb before I start flashing my phone to other roms.
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So there is no way to backup my data first and restore it to 6.1 ? Then i wont do it, too much calender entrys, contacts, etc. installed.
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If it's just calendar and contacts that you are worried about, surely after you synchronize with a laptop or desktop those details will be stored with ms outlook.
So after you do an upgrade, if you synchronize your phone again with laptop/desktop you will get those contacts and calendar entries back again.
Programs and files installed is another story.
hookup activesync, transfer /root/pim.vol to your desktop..
install 6.1 rom..
boot into windows.. rename the current pim.vol (on your phone) to pim1.vol. Transfer the old pim.vol that you saved on your desktop onto your phone.
Reboot to phone to reveal all your contacts and call history restored.. simple and easy.
delete pim1.vol from your phone and bam your done!
YES, the official windows mobile 6.1 kaiser update is very worth updating IMO. Video drivers are much better.. switch views is easy.. moving around is much faster.
JEC
So I am taking it that this upgrade is worth the time to do then? Sounds like stability is better with this upgrade. Hopefully no other issues involved with it. I am still running the stock ROM from AT&T on my phone that came with it with WM6.0.
So upgrade would be good with this then?
Thanks
Flandrel
What is the fastest rom?
Usually I am writing about some PDA problem that I need the experienced users here to bail me out with.
Today I am writing about a positive review. I just loaded Sprite Backup software, that came with my TouchPro. I wasn't sure it would be worthwhile, but it works very well. It does a full backup of EVERYTHING on your PDA either onto your PC or onto the microSD card. Three times in the past three years, my PDAs would suddenly hard reset themselves while I was traveling overseas. So this feature is awesome.
With the option to backup to the microSD, the backup file, which is an .exe file can be run right after a hard reset to bring the PDA back exactly where it was before the hard reset. Wow!
I haven't used the recovery yet, but the backup process is simple, quick and easy. If recovery works as well, it makes this a "must have" app.
I feel SPB Backup much better and stable. Read my backing up pocket pc guide.
Regards,
Carty..
I agree that Spb is the better program. I ran both Sprite (came with Fuze) and Spb. Sbp was much faster and easier to use.
However, Sprite is a no cost extra for those who have the new Touch Pro.
Sprite versus SPB Backup
Carty,
Thanks for the added opinion. SPB does sound pretty good. How much does it cost?
So far Sprite seems to work well and is fairly quick, especially if I do not backup my photos and mp3's. Since these are on my microSD card, that hasn't been necessary anyway.
Have you ever done a restore with Sprite? How did that work out? Was it a seamless/painless restore back to the original state before hard reset?
How does the Sprite restore compare to the SPB restore?
Im planning to Flash a New rom onto my Fuze, and i noticed that it has included the Sprite Backup, that i can use.
I was thinking of using PIM Backup, instead of Sprite.
What are u guys thoughts on PIM Backup? has anyone used it after flashing a new rom?
If i use the Sprite Backup, that is included with my fuze, and i back up everything onto my MicroSD card/Computer...If the Rom that i install does NOT have Sprite Backup installed...can i still use the .exe backup file from the sprite program? Or would u have to install Sprite Backup onto the NEW ROM, for it to be able to restore my backup?
Alucard_11 said:
....If the Rom that i install does NOT have Sprite Backup installed...can i still use the .exe backup file from the sprite program? Or would u have to install Sprite Backup onto the NEW ROM, for it to be able to restore my backup?
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Depends which ROM you intend to flash sir?
I would have to agree with Mrvanx that it depends on which rom you started with and which you are flashing to.
Sprite backs up EVERYTHING, so if you do a restore, I think it also restores EVERYTHING. Not certain if this is true or if you can do a selective restore.
However, you might wind up restoring files or settings that may be incompatible with the new rom. Check Sprite's website also as it may answer this.
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Depends which ROM you intend to flash sir?
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ohhh, ok well i planning on flashing NATF's ROM,
but if it might cause any trouble, then i think ill just use PIM backup...that would work with any ROM right?
Sprite Back-up gets my vote
While I'm an a die hard proponent of Sprite Mobile. It does comes with it's on limitations. Only this time the limiting factor is you. It does allow restore and back-up of specific of only portions of the ROM or device. It also has a ROM-upgrade restore feature. So without getting supper deep. If you are going to upgrade the ROM and only are interested in PIM information, I would suggest PIM backup. I have not used SPB much not sure that I have used it to restore ever. But Have used sprite since 1996.
i've used sprite countless times for years, and have never had a problem with it. i tend to mess my phones up a lot, so its great to do a hard reset, and then throw on a backup that i know works right. i tend to backup right before i do something that will most likely crash it lol
is there a cab for sprite? I tried using the version i had with my touch pro but get an error when i try installing it to my fuze it tells me to upgrade to the proper rom. and since i am currently on Monx's ROM it doesn't have it installed by default
Hi Guys,
I was using Sprite Backup for a while as it came with the phone, it seemed fine but as I installed more software the more unreliable it got. The main problem was that it would go through the whole backup process and then right at the end (after 2 soft resets) would report that an error had occurred.
This got better when I upgraded to the latest version but then I noticed that when I did need to restore all my speed dials were messed up.
Checking the Sprite website it looks like they have addressed the speed dial issue in the very latest version 6.5.2.
Saying this I've been using SPB Backup and have no problems at all, even after a restore and it also only soft resets once.
Hope this helps,
D.
Help Please
I did a verry dumb thing today. I installed a program, can't remember what it was, a skin probably or some sort of settings program and my Touch PRO crashed. It stopped booting and was not comunicating with the pc. After a sotf reset it started and showed the home screen but without any of the buttons and the start text. it only showed the windows icon in the top left and the calendar and contacts on the bottom of the screen. The dumbest thing i did was to do a hard reset (i think) by pressing the d-pad and the volume down and after that, the reset button on the bottom of the phone and volume up after the message). This obviously reinstalled the os and deleted everything that was on the phone. So far so good, but i had some photos made a cuple of days ago. Is there any way to access the phone memory as a flash via usb of some sort in order to look into the file system with some recovery programs? PLEASE HELP ME. My mail adress is [email protected]. Thank you verry much.
Sprite Backup, cab file, backup errors
yes, I'm using Ruppenthals rom and wantd a way to restore as I now have the device and programs liek I ant them. I found an old version of sprite-5.1.0. Guess it shipped with thte TYTN - found it on wiik. It backeu up but said there were erors. There were 4 files it said could not be included. Does this mean that if I choose to restore the os will be corrupted. They were wierd file names like eT9Rudb and eT9Cdb.cdb . Is there any way to get the version of Sprite that came with this device back? Is there anywhere to get a sopy of SPB backup?