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Novice Wing Modder with Some Questions....

Hey folks, I got my Wing a couple of weeks ago and I love it. I had a treo before, and this makes me much happier. I had gotten into modding the UI a bit and playing around with the best combos of third-party software on my old treo, so I started playing with my Wing. Well, I've gotten probably mid-level with my technical modding competency thus far. I'm comfortable with most progs and mods I've found below actually flashing the ROM, and I'd think about that too, but I've gathered that most of the TF roms out have trouble on the Wing. So far, I'm overclocked to 260, tweaked some stuff in the registry, installed the HTC Touch UI minus the cube and all that, but I'm not quite happy. So, I have some questions:
On the HTC Home 5 tab skin:
1. Is there any way to put custom icons in the launcher area? Not just style-wise(though that would be good), but that link to things that aren't on the list? I'd really love to but a button that would take me to "settings" in there, like the one that takes you to "programs". I have a few other ideas too.
2. On the weather tab, I know there is a way to add cities to the "select city" list by getting the city code off of accuweather.com and changing the registry, but I can't figure out how to get the code for my city when I look it up on the site...I search it, and it comes up, but where is the code?
3. I put the HTC black theme on here, but I wondered, are there any others available? I know I've seen a blue one, and I think I've seen pictures of an HTC Touch that had a red theme....
Other Stuff:
1. I tried to up my page pool to 6mb like it says in the "all you need to know" thread, but the preparation app wont work....I install it, but nothing happens after that....I can't find it to open or anything else...Is installing it enough?
2. Is there any way to keep wm6 from putting the recently used programs on the start menu?
3. Is there any way to change the two links on the bottom bar that the soft keys are mapped to? Not change what the keys are mapped to, but like, change "Calendar" to "Settings" or "Contacts" to "Messaging", for example?
4. Is there anything out there that would let me navigate my phone with my finger? I know certain programs have this capability, like Opera Mobile's latest beta and PocketCM(which I use), but I'd like it on all windows that require scrolling....
Apps:
1. Anyone know the best app to use to stream radio and/or tv on my phone?
2. What's the best way to watch youtube? I wouldn't ask, but I've found like three or four different threads/articles on ways to do it, and I don't know which I should use. I prefer to use Opera as my browser, but I can use PIE now and then, if the process actually lets me watch it in my browser....
3. Can ya suggest any good games?
Well, thanks in advance for any help you can give. I've been trolling here for a while, so I know there are some very smart people here and I have faith. Sorry for asking so much, and forgive me if I should have broken this up a bit into different threads, but I'm trying to perfect my phone, and this was basically what was left on my list....Any other tips on how to achieve my goal of making a nice, clean, finger-friendly UI and putting the picking the best apps would be appreciated too.
Peace.

Ok, I figured out the HTC weather thing, and the today softkey thing, so I'm good there. Any help on the rest?

I can cover a few for you but any more's gonna cost ya....
flash your phone with either of the touch roms out right now and you will be able to finger scroll in nearly all applications.
try avotmv, or search using google for similar programs for streaming videos(avotMv includes youtube as well as google).
Many streams to tv stations can be opened with WMP directly which makes it alot easier to connect to them by saving them as PIE favourites. You just need to find 'em first, I would suggest doing that from your computer first.
I've recommended Flux Challenge before, ill do it again...apart from that I don't run too many games from my pocket pc. Seal Volleyball is kinda fun too.
Maybe some others can assist you with the rest
cheers

Must have software

Let's make a list of must have software for your HTC Touch Diamond.
Currently i have installed:
DivX Player
GpsView
NoData
PocketToolman
Total Commander
What software do you have installed? Let me know and i'll make a list of most used software.

Great thread. As I soon will most likely switch to WM (felt in love with the Diamond but then Touch Pro was announced and I think I love it even more) this kind of summaries will be extremely usefull for WM newbies like me.

SPB Backup, Resco Explorer, and ofcourse my own Ultimate Theft Alert v35!
Regards,
Carty..

1. Resco Radio
2. Calc-One (touch theme)
3. Sprite Backup
Feature request: It sure would be nice to have RSS feeds as a dedicated tile.

To me, this thread is a real waste of time. (Ane before you point out that I'm posting in it, I know)
Youre going to get a long long list of programs which people use. I use 4 Spb programs, Resco explorer, Coreplayer, PI8, WAD2, and WA3, and thats what I can think of, off the top of my head.
But you might not need percentile battery and SD-usage on your home screen, or detailed timetabling, or a massively customisable desktop.
Plus, some people are going to use Ultimate launcher, others Mobile Shell, others WAD, others ThrottleLauncher to customise their desktop, so youre going to get a list of a bunch of programs all doing the same. The same goes for backup programs and media players.
So maybe you would be better off saying what you need to be able to see on your home screen, and if you watch a lot of videos or need advanced PIM functionality.
And, this isnt a flaming, it's just this has been said before in every other forum, and every time I just think the person asking might not need all that, they mgiht just want a single today plugin or something.
But the one thing I'd say to get is a theft protector thing, Ultimate Theft Alert, and Where Is My Phone? (WIMP) are the best two.
Rory

rorydaredkign said:
To me, this thread is a real waste of time. (Ane before you point out that I'm posting in it, I know)
Youre going to get a long long list of programs which people use. I use 4 Spb programs, Resco explorer, Coreplayer, PI8, WAD2, and WA3, and thats what I can think of, off the top of my head.
But you might not need percentile battery and SD-usage on your home screen, or detailed timetabling, or a massively customisable desktop.
Plus, some people are going to use Ultimate launcher, others Mobile Shell, others WAD, others ThrottleLauncher to customise their desktop, so youre going to get a list of a bunch of programs all doing the same. The same goes for backup programs and media players.
So maybe you would be better off saying what you need to be able to see on your home screen, and if you watch a lot of videos or need advanced PIM functionality.
And, this isnt a flaming, it's just this has been said before in every other forum, and every time I just think the person asking might not need all that, they mgiht just want a single today plugin or something.
But the one thing I'd say to get is a theft protector thing, Ultimate Theft Alert, and Where Is My Phone? (WIMP) are the best two.
Rory
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The last 2 programs you said, thats what im looking for! Just things who will work out of the box, not the hightech replace your home screen software.
Maybe i'll try to make the list so that everyone knows what you need the program for and how it will look like. I also wanted to make categories so mediaplayers are listed in a mediaplayers table etc.

rorydaredkign said:
To me, this thread is a real waste of time. (Ane before you point out that I'm posting in it, I know)
Youre going to get a long long list of programs which people use. I use 4 Spb programs, Resco explorer, Coreplayer, PI8, WAD2, and WA3, and thats what I can think of, off the top of my head.
But you might not need percentile battery and SD-usage on your home screen, or detailed timetabling, or a massively customisable desktop.
Plus, some people are going to use Ultimate launcher, others Mobile Shell, others WAD, others ThrottleLauncher to customise their desktop, so youre going to get a list of a bunch of programs all doing the same. The same goes for backup programs and media players.
So maybe you would be better off saying what you need to be able to see on your home screen, and if you watch a lot of videos or need advanced PIM functionality.
And, this isnt a flaming, it's just this has been said before in every other forum, and every time I just think the person asking might not need all that, they mgiht just want a single today plugin or something.
But the one thing I'd say to get is a theft protector thing, Ultimate Theft Alert, and Where Is My Phone? (WIMP) are the best two.
Rory
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Listen here RORY, you are right and I agree 100%, yet we still posted. The list is usually the same, but you guys Ultimate Theft, what about Sprite Terminator. I want to get a theft app, but still trying to choose.

zmob123 said:
Listen here RORY, you are right and I agree 100%, yet we still posted. The list is usually the same, but you guys Ultimate Theft, what about Sprite Terminator. I want to get a theft app, but still trying to choose.
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I didn't think of Sprite Terminator, but youre right. I might test all 3, and any others if people suggest them, on my athena. The GPS thing will obviously be different, but in terms of usability and stuff, would be good to have some kind of comparison. But this will all be on Thursday once my A-Levels are over, and thats if I'm not playing MGS4.
And I'm not really one for saying to the very few owners of a new device "will you test X program?" because they might not want their registry f**ked with a load of entries from programs they don't want.
So if you want things tested I'll be sure to test on my Athena. Its got a VGA screen too, but less RAM, so it's more for screen compatibility testing, than actual performance on a Diamond.
Rory

If making a list, it would be useful to write after the program name what it's for and what it does (unless obvious)...

I was the first and right now with version 3.5 (active development) Sprite terminator, WIMP and all others came after.. I also have a lot of additional features lined up for next release. Like, posibility to retrieve contacts, and so on.. Ofcourse remote wipe will be a confirmed feature on next version. (Updates free always )
Regards,
Carty..

list needs to show link too a cab if possable too

So after a month of using TF3D...

I decided to disable it and use ilauncher, ill never go back to TF3D in the near future.
The device is so much easier to use and is far more responsive.
Just thought i'd share incase you wanted to see for yourself!

any screen shots?

milky wallpaper
i tried the same but when i wanted to place a wallpaper on the today screen it went all milky.that and the loss of the tf music player made me go back again. how did you solve these issues?

It's not very difficult to create an ui which is faster, easier to use and has more options to customize than tf3d. Whats cool about tf3d - the wather app? I'am wondering, what kind of benefit people see in this peace of software.
I am using MS2 and it beats tf3d in all regards. You can get with a few clicks to anywhere. If there is a menu you miss, you create it, or you delete an existing one. You can use the complete MS2 only with your thumb. (hardware+softkeys). You have shortcuts to your last used programs within the today-screen - if you wan't to keep a shortcut, it's possible to stick them.
MS2 throws you not so early back to WM6 as tf3d. (contacts,notes...) I even find it is optical more apealing on the long run and more unified in look and feel.
That there are many ui's better than tf3d is more because of the bad design of it than good design from the others, I have the impression, the makers of tf3d are only interested in smashing some eye-catchers together for nice screen-shots, instead of getting the user fast and easy to the point where he wants to.

The only reason I'm keeping TF3D is without it some system functions don't work. For example, volume buttons stop working during calls etc. etc.

pwoyorkie said:
I decided to disable it and use ilauncher, ill never go back to TF3D in the near future.
The device is so much easier to use and is far more responsive.
Just thought i'd share incase you wanted to see for yourself!
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here it is if anyone is intrested
http://www.sbsh.net/product.php?id=29

Is it ok that I'm completely overwhelmed?

I literally just bought my at&t tilt today, and when I bought it the guy I got it from suggested I come here to do some digging on modifying/personalizing my Tilt to my liking. Now, I'm somewhat of a computer nerd. I can work through most issues with my PC without having to call customer service or hit up forums or anything. I have no experience with pocket PCs or windows mobile however.
I've read the multiple notices here advising to read around first before asking dumb questions, but I have to say that I'm still completely lost and don't even know where to begin. I really don't have complicated intentions, I'm almost 100% satisfied with the phone as-is...regardless, I still just have no idea what to even start with, so I figured I would just throw that out there and hopefully get pointed in the right direction. Hopefully I'll be able to take it from there, but the tutorials, wikis, and FAQs that I was advised to browse through first (and I apologize if I'm just not seeing it, again I'm a WM noob) just aren't getting me there.
All I'm really interested in doing is changing my home screen. Other things I want to do I don't even know if it's possible to do so, or if I even have to download anything!
So maybe just one more shove in the right direction?

Try This
This is not going to change your rom......This will give a new look totally...I think you'll like it...Install it from your desk top
Peace
Mike

You should get a good start at the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.

deXtrous said:
IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.
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I agree here

pointUI
Wisbar advance (check out the skins for this app..)
If you know a bit of XML try RLtoday
oh, and search for "Ultimate launch" on the forum...

ummm check out the second link in my sig.

I'm in the same boat as you. There is so much information here, it's quite overwhelming. I want to get the most out of my device, but I just don't have he time to really get into it.

Well you have to start somewhere, so just say where you want to go.
Would you like to make the phone look different?
Would you like to add your own ringtones?
Themes?
gps stuff?
roms?
seriously look at the second link in my signature.

I suggest that you use it for a while to get used to it, then read, then try changing it. Just my 2 cents.

I'm guessing your question is more basic than the answeres provided. If you just want to change your today screen, check out the "Today" applet under "Settings" on the start menu. You can choose from a variety of default plugins, and some of them have options you can change (simply click the options button if it's enabled). As you install more apps, they may have Today Screen plugins as well.

DO NOT GO THROTTLE LAUNCHER.... i like the guy that developed it but it has become obsolete with manilla 2d, personally i stayed away from flashing for a long time but now that i have started i'm addictted it provides alot better preformance from your ppc, i would highly recommend it
my favorite rom right now is the garmin dk4 manilla just make sure you read up before, its not that complicated once you get the hang of it. biggest thing is make sure to flash hard spl before you flash anything else

Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
Keep your Kaiser/TyTN II/Tilt, whatever it is, as stock standard as possible. Do not flash new roms etc etc. This is the cause of most problems here unless you are really clued up on this, which it seems you are not at the moment. I won't even try it.
There are many third party apps out there and in here which will not affect the normal functioning and enjoyment of your device. Most of them are freeware.
Today themes are dime a dozen, heck, you can create your own with freeware apps like ThemegenCE (Desktop app which creayes the Tsk file for your device theme and even TKCreator which is a theme creation app directly on your device I (Also freeware and more basic than the former).
You need Total Commander, a freeware File Explorer much better than than one shipped wth the device. Quickmenu 2.7 makes using the device a pleasure and hardly requires the stylus. This provides a task manager, drop down menus, controls for device utilities like bluetooth, wifi, soft resetting etc. You also need Mortplayer which is the best MP3 player and is freeware and of course TCPMP with flashvideo bundle for video clips/movies/flash video from websites etc. This all for free. Heck, here are even freeware GPS apps for navigation out there, eg Amaze GPS and Nav4All, or just go full hog and buy the best like TomTom. TodayAgenda is a Today Plugin for calendar appointments and is one of the best and totally free. S2U2 developed by A_C from XDA is a cool screen saver/slide to unlock app which is free and highly customisable with animated gifs as wallpaper etc.
This would be a good start for you.
Regards,
MAC

MACkjam said:
Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
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I am also more than half a century old (now grand father !) and I agree with MAC advices !!!

Apps that will make your friends jealous

Ok, so I have been around here a couple months silently eating up all the great info posted on this site. I have flashed my fair share of custom ROMs and have found one that I am comfortable with. So now I need to load up my TP with the best "goodies" I can find. Sure I can email, text, surf, dial...but I need MORE! Looking for cool apps that will help me get my moneys worth out of the device (and amaze my jealous friends). A couple fun ones that I have found include security apps, torch , sms bombers, shazam etc.. Any suggestions, .cabs and/or links for cool/fun apps would be greatly appreciated. Paid or freeware.
Sorry if this has been posted and I am sure there are individual threads for these apps but my patience is limited to 20 pages of forum digging and custom search phrases. I did find many "must have apps" threads but all seem to be for the android.

This would be good for me since I am a new Raphael user too.
Specifically if there is an alternative email client app that uses a different UI than the standard Outlook, meaning not ProfiMail or FlexMail

you can't go wrong with hdWobble, serach it

Warcraft 2 will make you the centre of attention.
Seriously look for it. It looks great and unlike many of the other 'impressive' ports, it is really fun and playable! I find fps games are a pain to conrol on this type of device.
Diamond hologram is really cool to. It uses the accelerometer to do a 3d effect on the screen.
Search these things up

The last couple of days I have been playing with PockeTwit. Cool little app. to play on Twitter.

Any emulator. especially the FPSECE playstation emulator, maybe mID, google maps?? WMwifirouter so they can use their ipod touchs to surf the web off your phone, youtube player,htorchflashlight...too many to name really.

euphoria47 said:
Warcraft 2 will make you the centre of attention.
Seriously look for it. It looks great and unlike many of the other 'impressive' ports, it is really fun and playable! I find fps games are a pain to conrol on this type of device.
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is it available for those of us who hadnt bought it?

Warcraft
lbhocky19 said:
is it available for those of us who hadnt bought it?
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Debatable:
Forum thread is here re Warcraft II: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422606

SPB Mobile Shell
SPB Mobile Shell is so great!! you should show this to ur friends: especially the contacts carousel!!

anotherone is ShootME v2.5 thats one of my favs, i love when iphone owners show me the shotgun app they have then i whip out my uzi haha, and i actually had one of my friends freaked out with the hair clippers one. it really sounds and feels like you are getting a chunk of hair cut off haha

SPB Mobile Shell 3 and Kinoma Play are my two favorite apps.

philliyxx said:
Any emulator. especially the FPSECE playstation emulator
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Ah yes, I forgot to mention emulators like this one and PicoDrive works well for me to emulate Genesis ROMs. I played several games all the way through, ppl go nuts over Sonic, etc. So many great games on the system.
Many emulators I find work well enough to show off, but when it comes to quality of play they are limited. For example, without mapping of keyboard, using an "on screen" controller paddle, you are unable to simultaneously hit 2 "buttons" at once, due to the limitations of the resistive touch screen (no multi-touch). So for Mario turning mid-jump, forget it. To have the keyboard slid open while playing these emulators typically results in terrible performance, only a few ppl with a select combination of settings and ROM and d3d drivers managed to make it run reasonably with keyboard open.

im sorry mate but whoever told you that resistive screens dont support multitouch lied to you in the face.
there is multitouch out ther it just is in proper use by every one , take a look at fuzemobility and search there . there is an article on it along with a playstation controler completely mapped out to use multitouches ,no lie ! . the idea behind it is when you touch two places the place the exact same distance from both of them is registered, so with good placement and good mapping its possible :]

Slide to unlock has to be the best app for this phone hands Down..
I cant stand the basic winmoble unlock feature this one gives you the iphone slide to unlock so far works great for me..
S2U2
http://www.ac-s2.com/
go to right side, it also has a link to the latest xda thread

Personally I like the netflix account one along with the getsportz. I have also played with WebTV and a few bartending apps. I would also like to mention RSSHub and BeejiveIM as nice apps... I dont use facebook but there are a lot of social netowkring apps to show off if you do use them.
As for showing off... I personally like TF3D2... with the people tab and the stock tab!!! Apple has nothing on us with those two tabs.
And if you liek games there a thread with a super and mega pack of games that you can get and it will install a ton fo games to play with.
SoBBie

Impressive doesnt always mean eye-candy....
Have them bring along their laptops and whip out WMWifiRouter.
People are always impressed when I whip out iGo with TTS enabled.
Skyfire with MS Silverlight 2 support is pretty friggin awesome considering it has (and is) taking linux programmers months to get going on their systems.
MS Voice command is another...tell your phone to play music by tracks and artists and have it read aloud text messages. Not availible on the iphone until just recently I believe.
Any capacitive programs (touchlockpro and how you can program a personal "touch" combination to unlock your phone also gscroll
Incallrecording...
Software that will text you with the SIM card information and exact (by GPS) location of your phone in the event it is stolen and another sim card is placed in it..
The list goes on and on...but the best thing I like is that it makes calls!! I say WOW everytime it rings!!!

gmanfuzing said:
im sorry mate but whoever told you that resistive screens dont support multitouch lied to you in the face.
there is multitouch out ther it just is in proper use by every one , take a look at fuzemobility and search there . there is an article on it along with a playstation controler completely mapped out to use multitouches ,no lie ! . the idea behind it is when you touch two places the place the exact same distance from both of them is registered, so with good placement and good mapping its possible :]
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I've explained it before, but that's NOT multitouch.