Help - Tytn II water damage - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi all,
My little nephew dropped my Tytn II in the toilet and i want to know if anyone has had an issue with water damage and managed to resurect their phone.
I pulled it out within 3 seconds of falling in, i then removed the battery and slid the keyboard out furiously drying with a towel. After about 30 minutes i reinserted the battery and the sacreen showed thin multi colred horizontal lines and then went white.
I removed the battery again and then left it for 24 hours at which time i restarted it and got to the "smart mobility " screen but then the screen did the multi color lines and then went white after about 15 seconds, when i put the phone to my ear i hear like a scratching sound, i contacted the phone company i am with and they sia try drying it with a hair dryer or leaving it out in the sun, also they had a customer who put their phone in the oven and got it to work again. Granted this was not for a Tytn II but i am just wondering if anyone has had any success with getting their pohne to work again after a similar set of circumstances.
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kane

Patience can work wonders - you have to understand that the very intricate insides of your phone have been saturated (from the sound of things) and even the merest hint of any residual damp in the wrong place could effectively kill the phone as you've described. It could also cause more long term damage when it's powered up in that state, so I'd really recommend keeping the battery away from it for as long as possible. Do as the guys on the phone suggest, leave it somewhere warm and dry (your airing cupboard if you have one) and just wait a few days at least, maybe even a week. I wouldn't advise any extremes of heat (the oven etc) as this could damage something in itself - you don't want to go from a damp phone to a melted one! The LCD screen may be quite sensitive to heat, and you wouldn't want to damage that.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2128758_dry-out-wet-cell-phone.html

Well I did the same exact thing about a month ago...I was pissed! I reacted very quickly and pulled out the battery and let the phone sit overnight. In the morning I dissassembled the phone and took a hair dryer to all the circuit boards and pretty much every piece. I put it back together, said a little prayer, and it worked! Just thought I would share my experience.
So my recommendation...take it apart and dry it out nice and good.

rcm_rx7 said:
Well I did the same exact thing about a month ago...I was pissed! I reacted very quickly and pulled out the battery and let the phone sit overnight. In the morning I dissassembled the phone and took a hair dryer to all the circuit boards and pretty much every piece. I put it back together, said a little prayer, and it worked! Just thought I would share my experience.
So my recommendation...take it apart and dry it out nice and good.
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WOW!, thats fantastic, i did look at taking it apart but the screws are so tiny and look to be in the star shape (not like a regular screw) can you advise where you got a screw driver set to open it.
PS. I was pissed as well.
Thanks to everyone for your help

rcm_rx7 said:
Well I did the same exact thing about a month ago...I was pissed! I reacted very quickly and pulled out the battery and let the phone sit overnight. In the morning I dissassembled the phone and took a hair dryer to all the circuit boards and pretty much every piece. I put it back together, said a little prayer, and it worked! Just thought I would share my experience.
So my recommendation...take it apart and dry it out nice and good.
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Sorry one more thing, can you tell me how long you dried it for with the hair dryer? how far away were you holding the hair dryer and have their been any side effects since you got it working.
PS. i found a place that sells the screw drivers,

go to radioshack and buy a T4 or T5 screwdriver. I think it's a 5 but just buy the whole T set. It's for electronics. There's a thread somewhere on this site that shows how to disassemble to the kaiser

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Dropped Kaiser in Mop Bucket, not working, any ideas?

I accidentally dropped my Kaiser in a mop bucket. I dried it off immediately and took out the battery / sim card to let it air out. After 3 days I left it for 24 hours in a box of clumping cat litter because I was told it can pull the moisture out.
It's now been 5 days and it's doing the exact same thing as it started from the moment it came out of the mop bucket:
1) None of the hard buttons work on the face (green & red phone, start, ok, select, rocker)
2) Power & Camera buttons work but side Buttons on other side do not
3) Keyboard does not respond
4) It randomly beeps and pulls up the phone typing letters into it C D E F
5) It randomly goes to Notes and starts voice recordings that fill my memory
6) The touchscreen and onscreen keyboard work except for the Backspace key
7) The phone soft keypad works also except for the Backspace key
8) It randomly brings up voice dialing
These are my symptoms. It is obviously is a moisture problem, but it hasn't improved at all in 5 days. I was thinking about trying to unscrew things and blow a dust remover in there wherever I can. Is that a good idea or a bad idea? Should I send it for repair instead? What's that gonna cost me? I bought it directly from HTC and don't think it would be covered by any warranty. Should I just be more patient and wait another week? I'm looking for some educated opinions.
Thank you so much for your help!
Its not covered under the warranty and if you send it in they will most likely charge you the full replacement price (~$400 I believe) as they will see it was water damage due to the sticker inside that changes colors when it get wet. Its one of the first things they always seem to check.
htcoveblue said:
I accidentally dropped my Kaiser in a mop bucket. I dried it off immediately and took out the battery / sim card to let it air out. After 3 days I left it for 24 hours in a box of clumping cat litter because I was told it can pull the moisture out.
It's now been 5 days and it's doing the exact same thing as it started from the moment it came out of the mop bucket:
1) None of the hard buttons work on the face (green & red phone, start, ok, select, rocker)
2) Power & Camera buttons work but side Buttons on other side do not
3) Keyboard does not respond
4) It randomly beeps and pulls up the phone typing letters into it C D E F
5) It randomly goes to Notes and starts voice recordings that fill my memory
6) The touchscreen and onscreen keyboard work except for the Backspace key
7) The phone soft keypad works also except for the Backspace key
8) It randomly brings up voice dialing
These are my symptoms. It is obviously is a moisture problem, but it hasn't improved at all in 5 days. I was thinking about trying to unscrew things and blow a dust remover in there wherever I can. Is that a good idea or a bad idea? Should I send it for repair instead? What's that gonna cost me? I bought it directly from HTC and don't think it would be covered by any warranty. Should I just be more patient and wait another week? I'm looking for some educated opinions.
Thank you so much for your help!
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did you insure it?
No, I just payed HTC the $700 or so dollars that it cost without a contract.
Next time be a real man and have your wife do the mopping!
I was installing a DSL line in a utility closet at work and I just got clumsy. There wasn't much water in the bucket and the phone hardly looked wet. I thought for sure it would work fine. When it didn't, I thought that a couple of days of drying out would fix it. I dropped an iPaq full in the toilet once and it recovered fully after about 5 days.
htcoveblue said:
I was installing a DSL line in a utility closet at work and I just got clumsy. There wasn't much water in the bucket and the phone hardly looked wet. I thought for sure it would work fine. When it didn't, I thought that a couple of days of drying out would fix it. I dropped an iPaq full in the toilet once and it recovered fully after about 5 days.
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my friend dropped her touch in the bath and she took the batteries out and put it in a towel and place it on a radiator with a5 degrees room temperature and it worked again
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my friend dropped her touch in the bath and she took the batteries out and put it in a towel and place it on a radiator with a5 degrees room temperature and it worked again
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What temperature? Should I try exposing it to low heat? Maybe a blow dryer?
Wash it with distilled water. The mop water will have been ull of minerals that have now dried on the circuit boards and they are causing shorts.
Then leave all the bits on a towel in an airing cupbpard or similar for 72 hrs.
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Wash it with distilled water. The mop water will have been ull of minerals that have now dried on the circuit boards and they are causing shorts.
Then leave all the bits on a towel in an airing cupbpard or similar for 72 hrs.
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Do I need to take it apart or just rinse the outside in distilled water?
Do you have anything really nice and warm in your house you can set it on (obviously not hot enough to melt it)? Place it in a bowl covered in uncooked rice or plasic baggie with rice. My cable box/DVR, HDTV and also my computer case with that 8800GTX gets toasty.
Do you have an electric blanket/throw/heating pad? If so you can wrap the bowl/phone/rice in that to keep a raised temp over time to help it dry. During the summer most people leave it in their car in the sun for a few days.
There is a disassembly procedure in the Wiki... it's for a modification to the angle of the tilt screen... but it walks you through pulling it apart.
Back in the day, there was a hobby shop located on West Fairbanks Ave in Orlando (near Rollins College). It had a huge rocket on the outside... couldn't miss it. I think you can see it from I-4. Anywho, back when I used to tinker with circuit boards, I used to go there. They have (had?) everything you need to properly clean your board. It's basically the Super Walmart of electronics shops. They have everything there. They had some people who work there that are electronics experts and very helpful also... and can give you advice. Keep in mind, this was a few years ago and I don't know if they are in business still... but that's what I would do.
I'm surprised it still works... I think there is hope, but you don't want to make it worse.
htcoveblue said:
Do I need to take it apart or just rinse the outside in distilled water?
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As per pm - good luck.
BTW... I wouldn't use anymore water. Not a good idea. Yeah, distilled water is theoretically an insulator electronically... until it comes in contact with your hands... or a circuit board... etc. There are alcohol based solvents and aerosol types that will dry immediately. I worked as electrician for 12 years and I've never cleaned anything with water... distilled or not. That's just my opinion.
Denatured alcohol is what I've always used to clean dirty or wet circuit boards. It's cheap and readily available, plus it dries very quickly pulling moisture as it goes.
Just my 2
MAN....that sucks
My son did that to my 8525......thats who I ended up getting the tilt......my dad took my 8525 and had HTC replace the mother board.......I think it's dead...sorry my friend
What about spraying the board with WD40? SHould be able to displace the water, should have done it immediately after you dropped it though
My main question was should I attempt to open it up and clean the board or am I likely to do more damage? I think I'm gonna try the distilled water thing lightly first and see if that helps. If not, I guess I'll try to open it up and clean the board directly with an electronics solvent. I'm not looking forward to that though. I'm no electronics wizard. I'll probably loose the screws.
Do not use WD40. Yes its a water displacement but it will just gunk up the insides. If you did have to rinse the device to clean out containments its best to use alcohol as mentioned (not rubbing alcohol). When I was in the Army we use Trichloroethylene (Trike) .. That stuff was the best before they started banning it.
And for what it's worth my opinion.
Dismantle
Clean contact areas particularly the d-pad and hard keyboard (under the keys).
Use an alcohol based cleaner but I'm not a fan of immersing circuit boards except as a last ditch effort.
Initially I would take out only the ribbon connectors that are essential to dismantling.
Leave apart, use a hair dryer for a while and leave in a warm place (eg radiator top) for a day/two.
Reassemble but without replacing every screw, you may well have to dismantle again.
There are clues to the problem areas in the symptoms you see eg certain letters typing themselves and the phone buttons not working so any "key" areas need thouroughly dismantled.
To be honest from what you describe it sounds hopeful but I'm worried about the phone functions. Ensure the sim card slot is completely clean and dry.
Mike
PS - personally, I would not douse in distilled water or containers of alcohol. Yes, in theory they are safe but as said above they will pick up contamination and spread it around. The problem could get worse not better. Also water and even alcohol can get trapped into microscopic areas and even penetrate multi-layer m/boards and that can take a loooong time to dry and in the mean time can disolve or corrode essential parts.
The WD40 idea above I do not like for the same reasons and also because you'd be left with a film of oil on everything - ok for a car engine not for an 8925!
You either just wait or you clean it by opening up. Cleaning may be the only reliable answer.

After tilt was washed in landry machine

Accidentally, I put my tilt with clothes into the washer when I was doing laundry yesterday. Yeah, it does look much cleaner after one hour's wash with detergent, but I couldn't start it any more. After one day baking on top of the monitor, it was able to boot up, but the device will automatically shut off after showing the message " Sim Door is unlocked and the device will shut down in 10 seconds". I've checked the door, locked and unlocked it, but it doesn't work. Liquid has caused a short?
By the way, the warranty has expired, so I have to fix it all by myself. Would appreciate any suggestions
rubbing alcohol and toothbrush try cleaning the guts
Warranty would't cover this anyway. I'd eBay it as "for parts only" and buy something else. Good luck.
Most cell phones as I understand from a tech...they have "indicators" like small dots for example that change color when introduced to liquid. Quick way to say no to the customer in regards to warranty.
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Most cell phones as I understand from a tech...they have "indicators" like small dots for example that change color when introduced to liquid. Quick way to say no to the customer in regards to warranty.
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They're called Liquid Damage Indicators (LDIs). They're behind the battery on pretty much every phone.
Friend of mine laundered her Treo. She let it air out on a windowsill for a week.
She let it sit on a couple of silicone packets she had from a camera box.
(Water WILL evaporate, but soap will NOT. I hope it is rinsed.)
It works fine now. Hope this helps.
zhiheng said:
Accidentally, I put my tilt with clothes into the washer when I was doing laundry yesterday. Yeah, it does look much cleaner after one hour's wash with detergent, but I couldn't start it any more. After one day baking on top of the monitor, it was able to boot up, but the device will automatically shut off after showing the message " Sim Door is unlocked and the device will shut down in 10 seconds". I've checked the door, locked and unlocked it, but it doesn't work. Liquid has caused a short?
By the way, the warranty has expired, so I have to fix it all by myself. Would appreciate any suggestions
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Clean it with alcohol and toothbrush as GuySparkz said.
Best to use is isopropylalcohol, if not in specialized electro shop, you still can get it in pharmacy shop. but it will still not dissolve all parts of soap. You should use demineralised water for this, from gas station. yes water. then alcohol. demineralised water act like sponge to minerals and stuff from soup and regular water.
dissasemble it completelly, bath mainboard in dem. water for an half hour, use toothbrash don't be shy with it, then bath in alcohol half hour, now use toothbrush VERY carefully, without too much power. It could tear smd's away.
you can put it to bath on top of working wash mashine to use vibrations from it.
after bath I am using pressed air to drain and blow away drops which still contain unwanted substance, don't use the one from gas station because it contains condensed air drops, better use straw and blow on it fastly.
use fan during your presence or beware of breathing fumes too much and don't let fumes go to your eyes too. it's irritating.
don't bath battery, LCD, cameras, vibra device, keyboard, speaker and mic. use just brush.
if water get in touch panel, you'll probably need to get a new one.
if battery will stop working in few days, you can open and bath board inside it.
now to just drying method. it's risky, water is not 100% conductive, but rust which will be created after few days is and that could finish it off.
I cleaned plenty of phones & cameras after my friends been rafting with them with 100% success. only one camera which had been only drained and used for another 2 days was really dead.
You may want to try taking the battery out and washing it again with rubbing alcohol. It may sound stupid but soap will conduct electricity as it is an electrolyte albeit a bad one i think, this could be causing the short especially when these devices use such low voltage. Get all the residue off and let it air dry I did it once before with my Blue Angel. Dropped it into a blue toilet when i was deployed and I did that and it worked. And before I get a comments from the peanut gallery... My phone was not sh*$y or blue or anything like that just a phone.
Thanks for all you guys. your suggestions really helps!
In fact, I was going to wash it by alcohol.
Anyway, just want to try one more time before I open it.
It does boot up today W/O any error message, even though you still can see some weird areas on the screen.
It is really amazing!
Just to be safe, currently it was sitting in a big bottle of CaSO4 (moisture absorber), hopefully it can be fully cured.
zhiheng said:
Thanks for all you guys. your suggestions really helps!
In fact, I was going to wash it by alcohol.
Anyway, just want to try one more time before I open it.
It does boot up today W/O any error message, even though you still can see some weird areas on the screen.
It is really amazing!
Just to be safe, currently it was sitting in a big bottle of CaSO4 (moisture absorber), hopefully it can be fully cured.
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One of the reason why using alcohol to clean is good is because it will evaporate itself (and whatever liquid or dust it mixed with) almost instantly when you apply on the surface. It's the best cleaning solvent.
This may also help you for your screen problem: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14919
After rinsing pack it in white rice for several days, it will suck out all the moisture.
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After rinsing pack it in white rice for several days, it will suck out all the moisture.
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very good advice
joihan777 said:
Friend of mine laundered her Treo. She let it air out on a windowsill for a week.
She let it sit on a couple of silicone packets she had from a camera box.
(Water WILL evaporate, but soap will NOT. I hope it is rinsed.)
It works fine now. Hope this helps.
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The Treo seems to fair exceptionally well in regards to water damage. My father flushed his twice, both times he had to remove the toilet to retrieve it. He placed it overnight in front of an air vent and it worked flawlessly afterward and has been working for 6 months since it happened.

[HELP] droped my diamond in toilet

heya guys,
today I was talking on the phone and the phone droped from my hand into toilet. I bring it out fast and removed the battery. I dont know what should I do now,. any advice!!!! will Vodafone accept it for waranty!!!
Usually for any electronic device, take as many bits out as you can an stick it somewhere warm for a day or 2, should get some if not all functionality back, I've dropped many things in the bath and had them back working again. Don't, however, try and power it on until it's had chance to dry out. The touch screen may be an issue though...not dropped any touch device in some water yet to test if the same rules apply....
Stick it in a bowl of (uncooked) rice, it'll help pull out the water faster.
whatever u do dont use any thing like a fan or blow dryer, cause that will just cause the water to go deeper into the phone, use a vaccum to suck the water out as much as possable,then like he said place the phone in a bowl of un-cooked rice for a day or two, good luck.
A little combo of what has been said: put it in a bowl of uncooked rice right at the counter where it gets a lot of sun (battery should be out obviously). The BIGGEST mistake you can do is test it out after a day when you "think" all the water is out. If it isn't and you turn it on, it could cause further damage. I know you're urgent to find out if it works or not, but give it three days with three days in the above conditions. You'll also probably need a new battery.
mp.goldfinger
will Vodafone accept it for waranty!!! - - -- no
Vodafone will not accept phone Warranty
The diamond has a sensor for water
Thanx guys......but I did turn it on today Bcause I really need a number everything is alright but the screens is still fuzzy. I wont use it for at least a week and see what will happend.
i hope you flushed the toilet before you dropped it.. =) otherwise there will be some.. sh*t inside the phone and its not easy to clean
yeah, definitely make sure its in rice, and sunlight doesn't hurt..
And the moral of this story
Don't take your phone out of your pocket when in the toilet.
It's also unhygienic.
Take care of your phone and your phone will take care of you.
I went to a festival where I was so drunk that my diamond went out of my pocket when I got ready to sleep in my tent. And next morning I fond the phone in a little water pool inside the tent. But all the functions still work after I let the phone dry for 1 day.
Uncooked rice (as been mentioned before) is the best solution.
Take your time, as been said before, it will take a long time before all the moisture is out.
Nowadays the chips are very small, water easily lodges between the BGA balls, and it takes a while to evaporate.
just leave it for a week in the bowl of uncooked rice (preferably on a warm sunny place.)
Remove stylus, back cover & battery before sticking it into the bowl.
It's not under warranty: it has a moisture sensitive sticker which turns red when it was in contact with water.
Because it isn't under warranty, I personally would take the device apart, and dry the parts seperately, but that isn't very easy if you haven't done this sort of disassembling before.
Revert to this only if you have absolute confidence (and the service manual ).
Best of luck!
Please keep us posted.
EquinoXe
The problem is long term, the moisture will cause corrosion on the fine
PCB tracks etc. even after its dry, Best thing to do is pull the device appart as best u can get a tooth brush and a can of CRC CO CONTACT CLEANER
blue and white can @ any good electrical wholesaler. spray all the circtry and componets not the screen. and scrub with a tooth brush dont knock
off any small componets and then let dry for a day or 2 best bet is to use compressed air to blow off excess liquid spray from under the chips..
I am in electronic repair hope this helps
This happend to my LG 2 years ago ...into the LOO and i done the process above and its still working today the quicker u dry the water off initialy the better..
thanx guys.....unfortunately I have to buy a new LCD for my diamond as all water has gone inside the LCD and damaged the sheets inside the LCD. I have removed all parts and I am waiting for LCD delivery that cost me 40£
Aww, that is unfortunate..
Hope the LCD transplant will bring it back to life.
I had almost the same issue, but in my case, what I did was that I droped some alcohol inside the power button when I was trying to clean the screen with a tissue and some alcohol. Now the power button works in a faulty way and it tries to reboot every time I click on it. It's like the single click is always a double click on the power button. Any suggestion on how to fix it? This happened to me like 2 months ago and it is still like this.
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Don't take your phone out of your pocket when in the toilet.
It's also unhygienic.
Take care of your phone and your phone will take care of you.
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I dropped an iphone inside the toilet. It rang I went to pickup and it slipped out of my hands.
Apple replaced it though. They didnt even test if it was water damage. LoL
....and I might also suggest that you don't eat the rice later!
Aww thats pretty sick
Have done the same thing, about 2-3 years ago (luckly not with my HTC TD)
All the advice above is right about drying it out, but the main issue you'll have is impurities in the water which, once the water has evaporated will leave residue. The worst is actually salts. These will dislodge components in the phone, and usually it'll never be the same again. Often the water gets under BGA components that arent encapsulated, or between pins of components, and once the water evaoprates the salt cyrstals left behind expand into those gaps.
You can wash the pcb in distilled water, or certain alcohol solutions - depending on what residue there actually is. If you use normal water you'll just make it worse, because that has impurities in it too.
You could have done the same with the touchscreen, but you would need to dismantle it.
Sometimes you get lucky and it all works ok for months.. lets hope you're lucky

Water damage questions

Hello,
I recently did one of the stupidist things ever-my tilt was water damaged. It was a whole 3 to 5 minutes before I figured it out. As soon as I realized it I hopped out, removed the battery, SIM, SD card, and wrapped it in a towel.
When I got home I did some breif reading on the ATT forums, some people said that you should completely dissasemble it. After taking out some Torx screws and having no idea how to take it apart, I saw some little "tamper strings" under the cover above the battery and decided to leave it alone.
This was in a residential pool with light chlorine. I read that if you get salt water in it, you should rinse it with distilled water, but I'm not sure if I should do that now?
It's been about 24 hours since it happened. It is currently sitting in a plastic bag with several silica gel packets. Luckily I can't see any water behind the screen.
The most interesting thing is that the little moisture indicator hasn't really changed. When I got it (refurbished from ATT) it was white with a tiny hint of pink at the very top. It doesn't look any different now. But I could see how a very grumpy ATT employee could mark it as water damaged.
How long should I wait before trying it out again? Should I discard the existing battery and buy a new one? Any other advice?
I would really appreciate your help. I know that there is info out there but I didn't see any that specifically dealt with chlorine and also I was wondering what you all thought about the water sensor.
Thanks, have a great day.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but I would not allow it to "air dry" because of minerals and rust setting up. I would use compressed air to force the moisture out, followed by a blow dryer to clear up any residual moisture. I'd then let it sit in a nice sunny window for a while, just in case. Never dealt with it in a phone, but this is the method I've used for other electronics, including a Nintendo DS. Sometimes successful, sometimes not. I think it really depends on the initial short.
Thanks for your response. It's not drying in open air, it is drying inside a small ziploc sandwich bag along with a three silica gel packets. Are you suggesting that I take it apart and then blow it out with the compressed air? Seeing as my water sensor hasn't really changed much color I'm hoping there's a sliver of a chance I might get a help at an AT&T store.
How long do you think I should wait before giving it a try? Do you think the battery I have is safe to use?
You are on the right track:
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index....t=3475797&referralPlaylistId=search|cellphone
Well sadly after 4 days drying out in the silica gell, I put the battery in and right away the LEDs at the top were flickering on and off-blue, white, green, etc. Then, I pushed the power button. The vibrator buzzed lethargically but nothing came onscreen.
Now when I plut it in I get the dreaded "red light."
I tried to start opening it up, but I couldn't even get that cover above the battery off. I don't want to damage the plastic even though it's out of warranty.
Any suggestions on places to get repair? If it would be under $100-120 it would probably be worth it to me to get it fixed.
you do not need to take it apart, dip in rubbing alcohol (prefereably a high percentage) then let sit for a while, depending on the amount of water you will need to soak or longer or several times. using a toothbrush after soaking can help.
No -- don't soak it in anything -- you'll get fluid inside the touchscreen.
Better to let it dry then try it -- and if it still doesn't work properly take it apart and clean each piece.
Check out www.ppctechs.com they did excellent work on both of my Tilts.
Wow they are expensive! $60 just to diagnose probably not going to be worth it. Anyway, I think I'll just wait another 3-4 days and then try it again. I'm a little wary about taking it apart cuz I can't seem to get the hang of it, but my warranty is over anyway so what's to lose?
@noodles21o2, do you mean to take it apart before soaking and brush the inside?
Thanks everybody for your suggestions.
no, just dip the thing in rubbing alcohol. it is proven to work...which is because alcohol is highly volatile. will absorb the water and evaporate much quicker. the brush is for if that doesnt work completely and would have to then take it apart. and worst case senario...it still doesnt work
before trying the alchohol thing, I plugged it in with the battery in. for about 10 seconds the orange lights up, but then switches to blinking which I haven't seen before. when i try to boot it up, it buzzes as normal but the LCD doesn't come on. then it just randomly buzzes likes it's trying again after a few seconds. this is after 5 days.
this is better than when I tried it after 3 days-it was red when I plugged it in, then when I tried turning it on all of the LED's flashed randomly.
I am going to suggest that you follow the advice of the guy who said submurge it in rubbign alcohol.. You really hsoudl do it right away... it will prevent minerals and otehr corrision inside it that will ruin it, the alcohol will displace the water inside, and as you have probalyl noticed if you ever spilt any rubbign alcohol, it evaporated very quickly... It is better to do it sooner than later before you get rust and other currosion inside it
Well I bit the bullet and submerged it in isopropyl rubbing alchohol in a covered plastic container. How long do you figure I should leave it in there?
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Well I bit the bullet and submerged it in isopropyl rubbing alchohol in a covered plastic container. How long do you figure I should leave it in there?
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generle rule i follow is to let it sit there about as long as it was in the water, probably longer. though by turning it on you may have screwed it, so good job
You should have just listened to me in the first place.
Well sadly I didn't even get in into the silica gel until about 6 hours after the initial submission as I was far from home. Unfortunately this probably will be a lost cause, had I had better luck and followed procedure immediately it probably would have been fine.
I left it in there for about 30-40 minutes, now it's drying. Quite a bit of the liquid got behind the screen. But I'm pretty sure the screen is shot anway. This poor thing will probably end up on ebay unless I'm insanely lucky. But thanks for your help I appreciate it.
I decided to take it apart to see if I could dry out the screen faster that way. Anyway there was a lot of corrosion on the screws, plastic, etc. in the battery compartment, but as I got further in, it didn't look too bad but definitely not new lol.
I think I'll put it together in a few days and see if anything has changed. Not sure if its worth spending $$ on a new screen cuz if that doesn't work I don't know how to fix anything else.
Rubbing alcohol is good if you can get good air supply to the parts, which in this case, you weren't. High purity alcohol does dry quickly with little to no residues, but it also wreaks havoc on ink, glues, etc. I would have NOT gone with the alcohol dip. If you were able to disassemble it, then I would have gone with the alcohol/canned air route.
Also, silica gel packets only absorb water, they don't "refresh" once they dry (to a certain extent). Consider filling a ziplock bag with dry rice, and then sticking your phone inside. This is actually a very effective way to absorb moisture that continues to work, versus silica gel packets which decrease their absorbancy as time goes on, especially in a sealed ziploc.
If you are seeing corrosion inside the phone, you're most likely SOL. The fact that the phone was ON when you jumped into the pool greatly decreases your chance, as the water likely had time to get into the phone while you had electricity running through the circuit(s). At best, you can now try and clean the board(s) with a good quality circuit cleaner (not just rubbing alcohol, it will likely not touch any corrosion).

Dropped Nexus One in a Glass of water. Help

I know, this is just extremely stupid of me to drop a $550 phone in water. Happened 12 hours ago.
I removed battery right away. The screen was on when I removed the phone from the glass, pretty much right away.
Left the phone overnight in the rice bucket. Then turned it on in the morning.
The phone powers up and everything, so far seems to work, including the speaker and ear piece (thats the side that dropped in water).
Make phone call, I can hear and other person can hear. Wifi seems to work. Screen scrolling and such works.
Only thing I am noticing right now is that the Lock Button seems to have itr own brain. It autopresses and "the power off" screen keeps coming on by itself. Also, pressing the Lock Button does not lock the phone anymore. All it does is brings me to the Power Off screen.
Any help? Should I just remove the battery and leave it in the rice bucket for maybe a few more days?
Thanks.
P.S: I am glad the phone still works, and I will give a lot of credit to BESTSKINSEVER full phone cover.
Let dry it some more without the battery.
Reminds me of the time I dropped my sony w810 in a tall glass of beer, Took me a few seconds to realize and get it out. Worked perfectly after drying.
What is the benefit of a rice bucket? I never heard of that being used to dry electronic devices before. I know one of my friends jumped into a pool with his old LG phone. He let it dry out for 24-36 hours and worked fine after that. He basically let it air dry.
bloke226 said:
What is the benefit of a rice bucket? I never heard of that being used to dry electronic devices before. I know one of my friends jumped into a pool with his old LG phone. He let it dry out for 24-36 hours and worked fine after that. He basically let it air dry.
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Rice absorbs water, you see it in on the table in the salt in a restaurant to hold the salt dry so it won't stick togehter and won't come out
I am running the Rodriguez 2.2 Rom.
Anyways, all seems to work normal again. But, just to be on the safe side, I think I will leave it in the rice bucket a little more after I get home.
Btw, this morning, I was running the Signed FRF50 Modaco rom, then I did a full wipe and Nand Restore to the prior backup to Rod 2.2 Rom. No issues.
Wondering if the OLED screen on the Nexus One has anything to do with the screen "Still Fully Functional" compared to a normal LCD?
Thanks all for the response. Going to do just as you say.
Pics or it didn't happen!
Also, see if you can clean around the lock button with compressed air or blowing or something, having the battery cover removed. Might be a rice/dirt related problem.
my nexus one has been in the toilet, in the bath, and in a diet dr. pepper... bag of rice each time, and it's 100%, no humidity under the screen or anything..
ALL of the moisture stickers are triggered tho..
heh
Cubed Guru said:
I know, this is just extremely stupid of me to drop a $550 phone in water. Happened 12 hours ago.
I removed battery right away. The screen was on when I removed the phone from the glass, pretty much right away.
Left the phone overnight in the rice bucket. Then turned it on in the morning.
The phone powers up and everything, so far seems to work, including the speaker and ear piece (thats the side that dropped in water).
Make phone call, I can hear and other person can hear. Wifi seems to work. Screen scrolling and such works.
Only thing I am noticing right now is that the Lock Button seems to have itr own brain. It autopresses and "the power off" screen keeps coming on by itself. Also, pressing the Lock Button does not lock the phone anymore. All it does is brings me to the Power Off screen.
Any help? Should I just remove the battery and leave it in the rice bucket for maybe a few more days?
Thanks.
P.S: I am glad the phone still works, and I will give a lot of credit to BESTSKINSEVER full phone cover.
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Dropped my phone in a pool, its still working fine. If you have problems with your lock button, oh well. Install Cyanogen and use the trackball awake setting.
i hope you put the phone in a bag of rice immediately!! that greawtly increases your chance of a working device. i've had this happen many times where i save a phone using this method. the rice absorbs moisture very quickly.
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Rice absorbs water, you see it in on the table in the salt in a restaurant to hold the salt dry so it won't stick togehter and won't come out
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Silicia gel works even better. I keep a big bag of it in my safe to keep the moisture away from my gun.
BootsSiR said:
Silicia gel works even better. I keep a big bag of it in my safe to keep the moisture away from my gun.
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Submerging your phone in Silica gel is probably as inadvisable as in water, though
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Submerging your phone in Silica gel is probably as inadvisable as in water, though
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I'm certain he would mean beads, not necessarily in a fluid-form
I was thinking more of the powder sachets that you get in dried seaweed packets. Not sure exposing your phone to silicate beads is a great idea either, since it's a skin irritant.
The screen is pretty much sealed off. So i guess when water gets INTO your screen behind the glass you are pretty fecked..
put it in dry rice!! works 10/10 times for me.
Was on the phone after I had shoulder surgery with headset on. I had my N1 resting in my sling. Went to the sink to wash a cup, my N1 slid out and went straight to the drain were water ran on it for a few seconds. I left it in a sealed tupperware box with rice in it for 24hrs... Works like a charm
Cubed Guru said:
I know, this is just extremely stupid of me to drop a $550 phone in water. Happened 12 hours ago.
I removed battery right away. The screen was on when I removed the phone from the glass, pretty much right away.
Left the phone overnight in the rice bucket. Then turned it on in the morning.
The phone powers up and everything, so far seems to work, including the speaker and ear piece (thats the side that dropped in water).
Make phone call, I can hear and other person can hear. Wifi seems to work. Screen scrolling and such works.
Only thing I am noticing right now is that the Lock Button seems to have itr own brain. It autopresses and "the power off" screen keeps coming on by itself. Also, pressing the Lock Button does not lock the phone anymore. All it does is brings me to the Power Off screen.
Any help? Should I just remove the battery and leave it in the rice bucket for maybe a few more days?
Thanks.
P.S: I am glad the phone still works, and I will give a lot of credit to BESTSKINSEVER full phone cover.
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Was it a glass of tap water or some sort of bottled water (distilled/filtered)?
I ask because tap water has all sorts of chemicals and when it drys, they are left behind. Like your shower gets that white build up on the walls (aka hard-water buildup) unless your doing the hanky panky in the shower and not cleaning up your mess. Whatever electronic board is near the power button could have a bridge residue causing it to act strange.
My girlfriend left her G1 out and my 2 year old son dropped in the dogs water bowl. I dried it out and left it in rice as well for 24 hours. 24 hours later I powered it up and the phone would act weird. Random keys being pressed. Random menu pop ups. I took it all apart and noticed white residue on some of the circuit boards. I cleaned them with rubbing alcohol and a soft mini tooth brush it stopped the randomness but I still needed to replace the LCD screen. Beyond my control.
Anyways good luck.
Sindroid said:
The screen is pretty much sealed off. So i guess when water gets INTO your screen behind the glass you are pretty fecked..
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I can attest to this. I spilled coffee over the entire screen one morning. I swear I moved faster than the flash cuz I grabbed tissue and wiped it clean in like seconds. But everything was still fine and dandy after though. =)
You guys have such bad luck! :O Never dropped any electronic in any body of water lol. XD
Sistum Id said:
Was it a glass of tap water or some sort of bottled water (distilled/filtered)?
I ask because tap water has all sorts of chemicals and when it drys, they are left behind. Like your shower gets that white build up on the walls (aka hard-water buildup) unless your doing the hanky panky in the shower and not cleaning up your mess. Whatever electronic board is near the power button could have a bridge residue causing it to act strange.
My girlfriend left her G1 out and my 2 year old son dropped in the dogs water bowl. I dried it out and left it in rice as well for 24 hours. 24 hours later I powered it up and the phone would act weird. Random keys being pressed. Random menu pop ups. I took it all apart and noticed white residue on some of the circuit boards. I cleaned them with rubbing alcohol and a soft mini tooth brush it stopped the randomness but I still needed to replace the LCD screen. Beyond my control.
Anyways good luck.
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I highly doubt that he was drinking a glass of distiled water. Drinking distiled water is not good for someone to drink. So more than likely it was tap/drinking water.

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