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Hey everyone!
Read lots of threads here on the xda-developers forum, many questions, many answers, lots of "good guys" who are willing and able to help (many have helped me, thank you goes to them and all the others).
The bottom line:
Saw many many questions concerning flashing, bad flashes, error messages and so on.
I really don't know WHY people won't go for the easy way?
Flashing from a PC involves a USB connection through Activesync/WMDC, an application, we all know the procedure thanks to racerx_ (http://trinityguides.info). There are so many things that can go wrong: think about it, from unplugging the device, app error, comm error, power drop, connection drop, system hang and so on.
I don't know about the rest of you but I have done it the hard way but also learned to do it the easy/safe way. There's nothing more to the story than flashing from SD card. Procedure is well described in the Wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_SDCardFlashing).
I mean, all you have to do is press three buttons and wait for the flash, no risky connection drops, error messages, driver incompatibilites (see Vista problems), no app hangs.
I have tried many ROMs from over here and except for my first two flashes (first was Des' Crash Proof SPL, second was a cooked ROM) I've made them all using the SD card method and never got an error nor a situation with it.
So here's the question: why won't people flash the easy way?
well, have you actualy tried this procedure before posting this?
banesi said:
well, have you actualy tried this procedure before posting this?
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Read my post once again, carefully.
hold Power button on right side and Camera button at same time and stick with stylus in RESET on bottom
This procedure brings boot loader screen, with three colors, it doesn't bring anything similar to that image posted there.
banesi said:
hold Power button on right side and Camera button at same time and stick with stylus in RESET on bottom
This procedure brings boot loader screen, with three colors, it doesn't bring anything similar to that image posted there.
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Follow the steps carefully.
1. SD card with FAT32 and no label (it can contain other files, no need to wipe it)
2. Renamed nbh file to TRINIMG.nbh placed on SD card root
3. Power+Camera+Reset
4. Follow instructions on screen (Power button to brgin flash and Soft reset when prompted at the end).
It don't get any easier!
It SHOULD work.
Totally agree, I don't understand why ppl persist with the multitude of errors that crop up from flashing via active sync.
Using the SD card you can chuck a few ROMs on board to test and just rename each in turn to TRINIMG.nbh, move it to the SD root and enter boot loader.
Before I test a new ROM I make a static settings image with SPB Backup so I can flash back to the old ROM and restore back to how it was in a jiffy.
Just to point out for some ppl, some of the ROMs here are packaged into EXEs, you will need to extract the contents and only use the file named RUU_signed.nbh.
This process can also be used to flash Radio ROMs in case you flash a ROM that includes a radio that you don't like/use.
Good thread
P3600i saga continues
I wonder if the SD Card method works on the P3600i? According to the Wiki, it doesn't bypass the SuperCID check.
Olipro has modified his SPL-Trin to work with the P3600i. But so far there's still no definite way to flash it. No Hard-SPL, splxploit don't work, same for JumpSPL. So maybe this is the way? Any opinions?
remofo said:
I wonder if the SD Card method works on the P3600i? According to the Wiki, it doesn't bypass the SuperCID check.
Olipro has modified his SPL-Trin to work with the P3600i. But so far there's still no definite way to flash it. No Hard-SPL, splxploit don't work, same for JumpSPL. So maybe this is the way? Any opinions?
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No, sorry, it's not the way.
Flashing from SD card is not a workaround for bypassing SPL.
You still have to have some kind of a Hard SPL installed.
Please check the Wiki.
evojulz said:
This process can also be used to flash Radio ROMs in case you flash a ROM that includes a radio that you don't like/use.
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...and also bootscreens.
In other words, this method can flash any nbh file which could be flashed through the update utility method.
Easy and reliable
Fully agree with you tnyynt!
I always flash using the SD method.
Sometimes I even download the new nbh and keep it on the SD and upgrade later on when having time, not connected to a Pc... (I also have all the cab I need on my SD card).
Quick, easy and reliable (done many times).
Would be fine if the nbh would be released on this forum (rather than the .exe package).
Would allow to download them directly from the Trinity. i.e.: no more need for a Pc !!!
I always use this method, it is the only one that works for me and it's the most convenient I think.
I tried this method several times, but I was never able to get it work.
Yes I followed instructions carefully, but no. I only get three colored bootloader screen, that's it. No button to start flashing, nor screen that looks like that photo in wiki.
I really wanted this to work, cause I have an OsX. Since I couldn't get it to work I had to install xp and use it as virtual machine. From there everything works just great. Because of that, I still have to have windows on my laptop :-(
Speed
About this method: is it faster, same or slower than usb? (consider an average SD card, no high-speed)
Sure SD is faster
g77 said:
About this method: is it faster, same or slower than usb? (consider an average SD card, no high-speed)
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I flashed recently FinixNOver 3.0.2 (BTW - superb ROM) - only OS + splashscreens and it took 2.5 mins in SD (regular 2GB miniSD SANDISK). I think it is fast enough...
Hi!
I want to tell me,if anybody knows, if i make my device superCID i loose the waranty!
I try to flash it with Trinity_SDCard Flashing from wiki (i make 3 step) and after the reset when is in the grey screen and loading i saw in the up side of screen the number 00068002 and after that change to 3 colored screen!
Any help?
jukkus said:
I tried this method several times, but I was never able to get it work.
Yes I followed instructions carefully, but no. I only get three colored bootloader screen, that's it. No button to start flashing, nor screen that looks like that photo in wiki.
I really wanted this to work, cause I have an OsX. Since I couldn't get it to work I had to install xp and use it as virtual machine. From there everything works just great. Because of that, I still have to have windows on my laptop :-(
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me second, i also have tried many times and still just can go to the tri-color screen.
i am using hardspl 1.20, and a 4GB sd card with fat32, will these matter?
thanks.
manos_23 said:
Hi!
I want to tell me,if anybody knows, if i make my device superCID i loose the waranty!
I try to flash it with Trinity_SDCard Flashing from wiki (i make 3 step) and after the reset when is in the grey screen and loading i saw in the up side of screen the number 00068002 and after that change to 3 colored screen!
Any help?
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yes, super-cid will void the warranty.. use hard-spl.. there's no reason to super-cid your device if you're flashing cooked roms..
racerx_ said:
yes, super-cid will void the warranty.. use hard-spl.. there's no reason to super-cid your device if you're flashing cooked roms..
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Ok, and thank's you very much!
ctrlaltdel said:
me second, i also have tried many times and still just can go to the tri-color screen.
i am using hardspl 1.20, and a 4GB sd card with fat32, will these matter?
thanks.
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Interesting, I'm sure someone will shoot me down but I'm not convinced it works with all SDHC cards... is your 4GB SDHC?
I can't get it to recognise the NBH from my 8GB but I have flashed many times successfully from my 2GB. Not to bothered, as long as it works
Nope, I'm using 2Gb normal sd-card. Also tried 512Mb card.
(I'm not 100% sure this is the correct forum, but since it is very ROM related it didn't feel all wrong to put it in here...)
Hi guys. After som serious flashing of cooked ROMs I decided for some unknown reason that I should try to restore a stock ROM. Now, being very tired as I was, i completely forgott that its probably a good idea to flash a new Stock ROM on the unit BEFORE flashing it with a signed SPL....so I just flashed the Signed SPL to the device. That in it self seem to have gone ok, because when I start the unit it say "SPL-1.15.0000". Problem is though that it also says "Upgrade ROM error, please try again"
Now, what should I do? Have tried put both signed and unsigned SPLs on the storage card and started up via the volume down/pwr button thingy, but that does not seem to do anything. I have also tried to attach the unit to a USB port when in tricolor mode ("USB" shows up on the screen) and tried the CustomRUU program. It finds the device and starts to "upgrade" (grey screen on the device with 0%) but then it just doesnt seem to get any further...
As the device was working fine with a custom ROM before I started all this, I suspect that the main problem proably is that I now have a Standard SPL with a cooked ROM, and that they collide sort of. I, as well as the Blackstone, is now stuck and I am all out of ideas what to do? Have also tried Hard and Soft resets, but that doesnt seem to change anything.
Help!
try removing the SD Card and put the phone into bootloader mode and re-flash the stock ROM! if this doesn't work ... still with the SD Card removed try flashing to USPL and flash the stock ROM again!
hope this helps
You can try USPL on your HD and flash a custom or stock ROM with it.
PapaDocta said:
try removing the SD Card and put the phone into bootloader mode and re-flash the stock ROM! if this doesn't work ... still with the SD Card removed try flashing to USPL and flash the stock ROM again!
hope this helps
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Thanks for the feedback!
Just be be sure, "into bootloader mode" is when you start the device holding down volume down and powerkey until you see the tricolor screen? Then that is probably what I have tried to do for a while now without success (total success that is, I do get into the tricolored screen)). Or maybe I am doing something wrong, could you perhaps point to a detailed explaination besides the one in "HardSPL" thread?
USPL I havnt tried, will do that! Is it still so that trying to do USPL on Vista is asking for trouble?
I read somewhere that Stock ROMs should only be flashed from internal storage, not SD cards, is that true? If so, how do I go about accessing that storage now when it doesnt show up in the file explorer on my PC (PC recognizes it as USB device, "HTC Sync" but I get no file access to it).
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Thanks for the feedback!
Just be be sure, "into bootloader mode" is when you start the device holding down volume down and powerkey until you see the tricolor screen? Then that is probably what I have tried to do for a while now without success. Or maybe I am doing something wrong, could you perhaps point to a detailed explaination besides the one in "HardSPL" thread?
USPL I havnt tried, will do that! Is it still so that trying to do USPL on Vista is asking for trouble?
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just do uspl it will work
improwise said:
Thanks for the feedback!
Just be be sure, "into bootloader mode" is when you start the device holding down volume down and powerkey until you see the tricolor screen? Then that is probably what I have tried to do for a while now without success (total success that is, I do get into the tricolored screen)). Or maybe I am doing something wrong, could you perhaps point to a detailed explaination besides the one in "HardSPL" thread?
USPL I havnt tried, will do that! Is it still so that trying to do USPL on Vista is asking for trouble?
I read somewhere that Stock ROMs should only be flashed from internal storage, not SD cards, is that true? If so, how do I go about accessing that storage now when it doesnt show up in the file explorer on my PC (PC recognizes it as USB device, "HTC Sync" but I get no file access to it).
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bootloader mode is when you power off the device and hold the volume button down and press power till you get the tricolor screen...
so here is what you need to do .
1. remove the sd card
2. go into the tricolor mode connect your device to the pc and make sure it says (USB) at the bottom
3. run the stock shipped exe from you pc
if that didn't work then you should try the USPL version.. and there is a guide if you are using vista.. i just tried and worked fine.. here it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3331078&postcount=153
and the reason i'm asking you to remove the sd card because if you have a rom (blacimg.nbh) it won't let you do anything it will try to flash from the sd card and right now you don't want to do that.
and you shouldn't put any rom into the internal storage of the phone..
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and you shouldn't put any rom into the internal storage of the phone..
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What happens if you do that? will it try and flash over the flash? Proper *&@! it up?
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What happens if you do that? will it try and flash over the flash? Proper *&@! it up?
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i don't think anything would happen... the file will get deleted when you flash as the rest of the files in the internal memory
Thank you everyone! The USPL thing solved it, when I did it from a XP machine! The once bricked Blackstone is not alive an kicking again!
About USPL, I saw the workaround for Vista, but downgrading a few components to make it work just doesn't seem like a safe way to do it. And I cant help but to think that it might have unwanted side affects, ie affecting system stability. But maybe I am wrong?
Going back to shipped ROM without bricking?
Hi,
After reading this thread I am now a bit worried and, as a newbie, would appreciate maybe a "simple" answer to my question.
I''ve been experimenting with various cooked ROMs after following the guide in the WIKI for installing HardSPL and then putting the ROM file (BLACKIMG.nbh) on my SD card and installing it using the power on + volume down button method.
However, I now want to revert back to the original "shipped" ROM, which I have downloaded from the list of shipped ROMs via the WIKI (I downloaded the one which closely matched what was originally on my HD - as I didn't know how to backup the actual ROM on my HD at the time).
So, my question:
How should I put the downloaded original/shipped ROM:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.14.405.3_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe
into my HD without bricking it?! Do I just run it on my PC with ActiveSync enabled or do I need to do something to remove the HardSPL or something first?
Sorry if this has been answered previously but I get confused when a thread just makes loads of references to SPLthis and SPLthat etc.!
if you have the HardSPL already installed on your phone then you don't need to do anything more.. just connect your phone to the pc and let it sync (activesync enabled) and flash to any shipped rom you want by simply running the exe file..
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if you have the HardSPL already installed on your phone then you don't need to do anything more.. just connect your phone to the pc and let it sync (activesync enabled) and flash to any shipped rom you want by simply running the exe file..
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Brilliant! Thanks for the simple answer Worked no problem!
So I rooted using the app you can download from the marketplace and installed cyanogen 4 effortlessly. But I find myself wanting hero but have read you need SPL, newest Radio and root i think.
Well my phone is rooted, radio ends in 2.22.19.26I, and have no idea what SPL ive got.
How do i check my SPL and what is a stable hero rom for the g1?
ever thought of searching
First you are in the wrong sub forum you should be in the q and a section and your answer is all over the place but what you have to do is download the radio and then haykuros spl. Then hero but search before you do anything theres at leat 2 guides to do this.
First things first...BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE you should boot into your bootloader (CAMERA+POWER) and at the top of the screen, left-hand corner, there will be a serial number of the board in your device. if it ends in PVT, you are good to go. IF IT ENDS IN DVT, OR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN PVT....DO NOT FLASH THE NEW SPL TO YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL GET BRICKED! Now. if you have the right board, then considering you already have the right radio, you should be good to go ahead and flash the SPL. REMEMBER, ALWAYS make a nandroid backup before you flash, and I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BRICKS, OR ANY OTHER DAMAGE TO YOUR DEVICE. the biggest thing is, to make sure you have the correct board. if you dont have the right board and you attempt this, it has been confirmed that you WILL be stuck with a full, non-recoverable BRICK. Please proceed with caution, and always double check everything you do, AFTER youve backed up all your important data.
-BMFC
Well i may be in some trouble here.
I got the SPL to update, after i did my phone was unable to find CM OS. I also couldnt mount it to my PC saying the SD card is damaged. I turned the phone off and started in recvoery tried applying cyanogen 4 again and i get E: cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk0
installation aborted.
Should i format the SD through the G1?
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Well i may be in some trouble here.
I got the SPL to update, after i did my phone was unable to find CM OS. I also couldnt mount it to my PC saying the SD card is damaged. I turned the phone off and started in recvoery tried applying cyanogen 4 again and i get E: cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk0
installation aborted.
Should i format the SD through the G1?
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If you just loaded the new spl then what you got to do is load a new rom on to update. The spl overwrites your existing rom. You now need a card reader or mount your card in adb and push the rom to your card so you can update.
ive been looking around on this forums, ive found various roms and softwares to flash the touch hd to winmo6.5.
ive downloaded:
HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip
RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip
SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip
BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip
and rom HD_WM6.5__V56__B23041_09022009.rar.
i have currently got 1.4 something on my touch hd. I found this when i turned it on by holding down the volume rocker.
but im not sure if i have the right files, cos ive seen some other ones around the forums. and im not sure which rom is the fastest to date. i dont want to download a laggy one which i have found some people have experienced. also, can i go back to winmo6.1 after going back to winmo6.5.
i just want to be sure before i do anything.
cheers in advanced
Used this guide when I first flashed mine. Only explains USPL method though iirc. http://journal.zenyee.com/2009/06/21/custom-rom-upgrade-for-dummies/
ill have a look at that. cheers for replying so quick.
USPL.
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ive been looking around on this forums, ive found various roms and softwares to flash the touch hd to winmo6.5.
ive downloaded:
HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip
RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip
SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip
BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip
and rom HD_WM6.5__V56__B23041_09022009.rar.
i have currently got 1.4 something on my touch hd. I found this when i turned it on by holding down the volume rocker.
but im not sure if i have the right files, cos ive seen some other ones around the forums. and im not sure which rom is the fastest to date. i dont want to download a laggy one which i have found some people have experienced. also, can i go back to winmo6.1 after going back to winmo6.5.
i just want to be sure before i do anything.
cheers in advanced
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yes USPL is the safest method, it is even advocated by Dutty Throy, been using uspl since my first ever flash (ive flashed dozens of times already). once you've mastered the procedure its the quickest method, if you find a ruu_signed.nbh file just rename it to BLACIMG.nbh and pair it with an ruu_blackstone wrapper. READ THE THREAD ON USPL. so far i've rarely encountered members posting problems they've encountered
i was considering uspl. but dont uspl last until reboot, so once you reboot your phone 6.5 will no longer run and will return to wm6.1. ill hav a look at the uspl cos at the moment im running spl 1.14 and it gets painfully slow at times. anything might b better than wat i got now
NO, thats not true, if you USPL it will flash it Temporary to rom that will allow you to flash the rom you want, once it has flash you will revert back to stock SPL, and keep 6.5, if you want to flash again you would have to USPL again before flashing another rom, the easiest way i find is to HSPL your phone with 1.56 Olienx, then you never have to worry about keep loading USPL first, and the BEST AND SAFEST WAY TO FLASH IS BY SD CARD. MAKE SURE IT IS UNDER 2Gb, take the rom image, thats the Nbh file, and rename it from RUU**** to BLACIMG.Nbh and put that on memory card, then boot phone into bootloader, by turning phone off and hold volume down and power button, plug in usb lead to phone and computer, make sure u got 30% battery or more, make sure it says usb and not serial on the bottom of screen then push memory card in, and it will auto load,another menu will pop up saying "press Power Button to Flash".
let it flash untill it says Successful, then reboot phone up to screen calibration, then do hard reset.
JOB DONE>
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NO, thats not true, if you USPL it will flash it Temporary to rom that will allow you to flash the rom you want, once it has flash you will revert back to stock SPL, and keep 6.5, if you want to flash again you would have to USPL again before flashing another rom, the easiest way i find is to HSPL your phone with 1.56 Olienx, then you never have to worry about keep loading USPL first, and the BEST AND SAFEST WAY TO FLASH IS BY SD CARD. MAKE SURE IT IS UNDER 2Gb, take the rom image, thats the Nbh file, and rename it from RUU**** to BLACIMG.Nbh and put that on memory card, then boot phone into bootloader, by turning phone off and hold volume down and power button, plug in usb lead to phone and computer, make sure u got 30% battery or more, make sure it says usb and not serial on the bottom of screen then push memory card in, and it will auto load,another menu will pop up saying "press Power Button to Flash".
let it flash untill it says Successful, then reboot phone up to screen calibration, then do hard reset.
JOB DONE>
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he says he has 1.14.000 spl and in any case all wm 6.5 builds are 1.56 or 1.59. so firste he needs to upgrade to spl 1.54.0000 then use uspl or use hspl 1.56.olinex.
else he'll face greenscreen and touch problems..
ok, if your looking for assistance in flashing, use the dummies guide to flashing. It provides a step-by-step guide and explains the differences between USPL & HSPL. All assistance, downloads etc you will need can be found in that thread. Any further queries should be posted in that thread.
No need for another thread.
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My phone will not boot, after g1 logo and boot image goes to a black screen. in recovery it wont reognice i have an sd card inserted..
Right my question, since i cant unroot (without the use of an sd card) i will have to send it to tmobile to be repaired whilst still rooted. Has this been done before? will they just laugh at me and tell me to jog on.. or is there a chance they will still fix?
Thanks guys
You have a couple of options:
1) Send it in as-is (If you're freaking crazy)
2) Brick the thing (Pro choice FTW )
3) See if the bootloader will recognize the sdcard. Problem is, even if it does, you can't downgrade with 1.33.2005 (it will insta-brick). And as you can't flash the SPL via adb or fastboot, this is more just me rambling than an viable answer.
My suggestion is brick it (if the bootloader will accept the card) and tell tmo an OTA update did it.
EDIT: Just realized I assumed you had 1.33.2005 SPL (Seem to remember a thread about flashing it, might not have been by you though...). If you have stock or hardspl then downgrading shouldn't (again, shouldn't) brick on dowgrade.
yep i have 1.33.2005 SPL.. think im going to have to go with brick'me option.
whats the best/easiest way to go about it? i have zero experience with fastboot and adb.. :/
thanks for your time
To brick, grab the RC7 NBH and put it on your SD card as DREAIMG.nbh. Boot in to the SPL (power+camera) and follow the instructions to flash. If it doesn't reocgnize the SD card then you could try flashing the old radio via fastboot.
Well if you're able to put a rom on the sdcard and run the update.zip then why not just try to flash a rom first?
Also, you can ADB a recovery into the phone... that will fix your recovery, i'm assuming you have the newest radio since you have the danger spl.
so you have newest radio and danger SPL already....
just ADB a recovery into the phone and that will hopefully get your SDCard recognized... once that's done, just put a rom in the sdcard and flash it
worst case: as long as you have insurance... tmobile doesn't care that you rooted or modded your G1 (As long as you didn't actually open up the phone and depending on the insurance you have... as long as it's not wet.
so when you choose zip from recovery, it wont show any of the roms/themes you have saved on your sd card?
surely there is something that can be done to save the phone here?
I would post this in the brick think-tank thread.
worst case: as long as you have insurance... tmobile doesn't care that you rooted or modded your G1 (As long as you didn't actually open up the phone and depending on the insurance you have... as long as it's not wet.
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WHAT??????????