hi!
someone know if htc diamond home plug and album/mediaplayer software are avaible somewhere, please?
thx!
i asked the same thing somebody just told me to buy a diamond
there is an early release of it floating around these forums, it's called Manilla. But don't get to excited, it really doesn't work well, if at all. I saw one person say that it only did like 3 fps so it was so extremely slow that it was useless. Most posts state that it doesn't work at all.
how about the application/programs launcher.. the one that goes a neat vertical list (see attachment)..
i think they replaced the default start>programs launcher with this one.. better, neater (with background) and more fun scrolling than the default M$ one..
You guys should take a look at the reviews more carefully. All the programs that the OP asked for are part of the new TouchFLO 3D. Implementation requires an activated GPU, something that the Kaiser is lacking.
well not all seems to be a part of the GPU heavy TouchFLO 3d.. as usual, some of the UI elements of the new TouchFLO must be some sort of separate programs that is called by the main GUI/launcher.. evidences of those can be seen in some videos wherein shortcut icons (from settings applet and/or programs menu) can summon/launch some TouchFLO UI programs - independent of the main 3d TouchFLO app..
so most likely, we may be able to extract some parts of the UI (the more static ones)..
like the comm manager, settings, volume screen, programs menu (list), and maybe even the youtube applet.. which, all seems to just be a static standard/skinned program (non-3d and more like a point-UI approach), much like the HTC Camera Album (from the first Touch series)..
our main hurdle would be converting these apps from the obviously VGA native resolution to QVGA ones..
ytsejam_ said:
our main hurdle would be converting these apps from the obviously VGA native resolution to QVGA ones..
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isnt it just reducing the images down to 50% ????
i've found some infos here...but i can't make it working on my kaiser...even if i've changed the images file with the qvga version file...
so...someone know something about manila on qvga devices?
THX!
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Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory
chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...
crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier
looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.
I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
someone1234 said:
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
adamz said:
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
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i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.
so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up
I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.
Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418
I'm about fed up with TouchFlo 3D, nice but pretty useless and I REALLY miss the Cube from my Touch Dual, much more convenient and doens't waste CPU cycles, so...has anyone installed it on the Diamond ?
Found a few existing CUBE topics, but not sure if there might not be interference and if a VGA skin is needed.
Topics : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348437
Ok had to hard reset...
Was hopeful after a post by SecureGSM :
"HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings:
also, there is one that is suppose to enable cube finctionality there:
EnableCube : default value (0) <--change that to (1)"
But not working for me.
Its not so simple as switching cube on. Cube is simply not there in our Diamond. If u try to install this Cube configurator from the Elf thread, u'll see a multitude of errors, missing files, etc. Cube may be functional here, but we'll be needing all those files
Yes, that sucks, the CUBE is x times more useful than TouchFlo 3D IMHO.
There must be a way though because it was added to non touch devices.
i dun think we'll have to descend to the non touch method, they use flash. i'm sure if we can get the Touch Cruise for example, and get their files, and put it in, it should work? i think
Catching up, I also thought this would do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348437 but so far no luck either.
bump - hope someone can figure it out ;-)
Another bump, that would be such a useful addition, I'm sure the bright minds around here can figure how to add the Cube back ;-)
have u tried Touch Commander?
Not sure, got a link ? I tried the tools linked in the first message and no go, had to hard reset.
I know a guy who might be very good at this ... Duttie or something like that
Unfortunatly, he is not around (yet)
Sounds good, hope he joins us soon !
Have you considered something like this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
There are a couple of other similar GUIs out there and the good thing about them that they all VGA optimized.
to add one more
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
and it's variation by GSmart
http://www.smartdevicefreeware.com/gsmart-windows-mobile-touch-gui/
Thanks, but what I like about the cube is up and down the gesture to bring the contact list and then left to right for the various tools. The Contact list would be enough actually.
bumping it up ;-)
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to add one more
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
and it's variation by GSmart
http://www.smartdevicefreeware.com/gsmart-windows-mobile-touch-gui/
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gsmart just buggerd up my diamond....
i won't be trying that again in a hurry
this looks good if they can get it to fit our screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417825
Any news guys ? I was so happy with my Touch Cruise but bought the Diamond for the 640x480 screen and faster video playback.
The TouchFlow 3D looks fine but it's very useless to me, The old TouchFlo Cube from the cruise could be swept away and you had your normal windows todayscreen.
I tried the Cube thing SPD Mobile Shell but the old originall CUBE is way better I think.
Any solutions ?
Bump!!! I Want The Cube!!!!!!
same here, in fact I want it so much I've stuck with the HTC Touch Dual, aka Nike !
Is there any cabs out there that I can install on my Tilt to have the same looks and effects?
For Reference:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/htc_fuze_black_l.jpg
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/11/11/htctouchpro_wideweb__470x388,0.jpg
Yeah....use search next time.
Are you referring to these? (screenshots below)
They are all taken on my tilt. It uses the old beta of touchflo 3D, diamond tf3dc config, and the at&t theme posted in the diamond forum.
What does not work is the touchflo 3d still will not let you power your device down, randomly freezes, and is very very slow.
Edit, and i almost forgot the resizing that the smaller screens have to do makes it look 'dirty' and not so clean cut as the original.
I was referring to this:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/htc_fuze_black_l.jpg
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/11/11/htctouchpro_wideweb__470x388,0.jpg
The screen shot seems to show Manila working in landscape mode.
That is already in touchflo 3D, though, not working.
An alternative was something for manilla 2D that uses mortscript and shows a display much like that. Its somewhere in development and hacking.
Thanks I really appreciate it as well as your awesome sig. It certainly explains why I couldn't find a cab when I did a search.
No problem. I just wish I could tell you what the name of it was, but I don't remember (as I never used or had a need for it.)
I have tried the Samsung user interface on my phone, and I loved it only, one problem, no one has resized the icon to be finger friendly with a 480 x 640 VGA screen, so if any one can help that would be greatly appreciated.
-CR7KB24
CR7KB24 said:
I have tried the Samsung user interface on my phone, and I loved it only, one problem, no one has resized the icon to be finger friendly with a 480 x 640 VGA screen, so if any one can help that would be greatly appreciated.
-CR7KB24
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Bump! I'm jealous of the omnia too....!
Samsung user interface let me get this right you have it on your pro. How did you it and does it work better or as good as flo 3d.
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Samsung user interface let me get this right you have it on your pro. How did you it and does it work better or as good as flo 3d.
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TF3D and omnima are two different today plugins it pretty much what you like, you can try it yourself, but a word of warning might not be able to restart your phone if you select today 2 plugin ( I speak from experience) you will have to do a hard reset to bring it back up(reset button, volume down and glowing circle at the same time release reset and hold other two, then follow instructions. you will loose any date saved on your phone). but if you still wanna try search for samsung goodies thread and good luck
Here is the link for the program for those that haven't found it
FEWidgets
If you are looking for more widgets, check this: User Made Widgets
The app can be run as just an app to play around with it or can be put instead of tf3d as today screen. if you want to have a vga as background though, you will have to copy a vga pic in the program files folder few widgets.
vga omnia
for anyone waiting for a resize of the omnia ui its on ppcgeeks.com the link isbelow if someone can upload here that would great i tried and could'nt
This is a Conflipper/Juggalo_X Production, we have made a Vga version of Opera Browsers Mobile 9.5 Build 15233
In this thread you will find, The Opera_9.5_Build_15233 VGA Cab installer By Confilpper
The Opera Opera_9.5_Build_15233 VGA OEM Package By Juggalo_X
Adobe/MS Flash Lite 3.1 Official EMU Release ce-os 20757 By Juggalo_X
Omnia D3D Graphics driver By Juggalo_X <------ recommended for this browser and flash lite!!
enjoy and remember if you cook with these give credit to my main man Conflipper for making the vga skin.
Also: once we get the original skin in vga working correctly we will re release wiht it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19953&d=1230910605
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19963&d=1230919494
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19964&d=1230919546
I started up this thread for any Kaiser user who uses, develops or does anything with Touch flo 3d Qvga (I Know there are other threads about these programs, this is to bring it into one place).
Posts on Applications, themes or anything for tf3d-qvga-3 and Touchflo 2d v 2.0 build 1919 is welcome!
Here is the kaiser D3D Driver.
If any Concerns Contact me at: [email protected]
I found a Standby App that shuts down TF3D when you power down:
Youtube App Also:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
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I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
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It works, it just doesn't work very well. TF3D needs the HTC-Class Action drivers, which are incompatible with all ROMS running the 101MB RAM hack. In addition, even if it does work on your ROM, a bug with the drivers prevents the device from entering standby while TF3D was enabled. A mortscript was made to disable it when the device was suspended or going to suspend, but it still took awhile and sometimes didn't work at all. Then, it would resume TF3D after waking the device, which also took awhile and intermittently worked.
There was a thread awhile back here, which put all the information in one place, so check it out if you're interested. But the way I see it, until fully working ATI Imageon/MSM7200 drivers are released for our devices, TF3D is unusable. If you want something that works well though, try the newest Manila 2d from the HTC Mega, which has the flipping clock and some of the looks of TF3D without the problems, and with this installed, it looks pretty similar.
Last nite i managed to experiment and install TF3D! on my htc tytn II, i used Unholy's Gaming Rom which doesnt have 101 ram and has D3D Drivers built in, i have to say for stuff thats experimental it does work quite well, its responsive and looks fantastic, it does take a bit to initialise once u come out of standby/sleep, but other than that i had a total ram usage of 50% used, 50% free which wasnt too bad, i think a fully working TF3D for our Kaisers is not too far away, as long as development continues, big up to da guys who have made this possible!
The problem seems to be that the drivers are in terrible shape. Doesn't work with roms using 101MB ram hack, and it won't allow the phone to go into standby.
How different is the MSM7200 vs MSM7201A? If devices using the MSM7201A chipset can run Touch Flo 3D just fine, then why can't we just take the drivers from those devices?
If someone has some experience with hacking drivers, I bet you can get those drivers working. I bet someone from Beyond3D could do it.
Some Screenshots Of Manila 2D:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
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hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
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Is This the standby program? if it is, the program doesnt like the backlight settings in. try turning them off. another way around this is to program one of the hardware keys to <none> then when the backlight turns off, push the button. it should turn the backlight back on.
it took me ages to find how to fix this problem. its painful but its worth it
Hope this Helps
Makes sense
here is a video of the new sense ui for htc touch 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhnhrdYP0I
Background to all pages
Background for all tabs
I havent tested this yet...but here is the download
BG all pages
thx but after installed it, it doesn't work its ok i'll satisfied with my TF3D v3 now...the stand_by also work very well so now my bat last longer...hope i could post all the cab files n some images of my Kaiser...
TF3D on htc tyTn 11 Kaiser+S2U2+S2P
i take no credit just wanna share...
more images...
a few more images...
and the files...
still i'll take no credit for all these...really wanna share it...
take note these cabs/files are use on my kaiser and i don't know if it runs on others...used at your own risk...pls read the instructions first...cheers..
the files...
1. TF3D-QVGA_v3
2. NFSFAN Opera 9.5
3. htc audio manager by Swtos
4. htc Diamond album
5. TouchResponce v02_2
6. htc CA_Kaiser_Drivers
7. TouchPower & tf3dStandBy
8. M3D Lanscape
9. YoutubeQVGA
10. MortScript
11. Uzeb QVGA tf3d font patch (makes ur font a bit clearer)
12. No Curtains and Transparent bottom bar
13. Pamas Transparent Slider
14. MobileMatt CrystalClockWhite
15. S2U2-2.04QVGA
16. S2P-0.73betaQVGA
17. S2V-0.42QVGA (actually not working on my Kaiser, my bad to include this)
18. tPRO for S2P QVGA (theme that goes with TF3D)
Download the zip files at RapidShare from here..
and attached is standby in mortscript. (just extract all the files to your storage card)
...added fire charging phase; extract batteryg.png copy/paste and overwrites the png files to s2us folder in device/programfiles/S2U2
Screenshots!
Mate! love the screenshots it looks great! thanks for the links some there i didnt have.
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doesn't work on my device..
One thing i know about Manilla... be it 2D or 3D... is that it's never the same instaling it, or having it cooked in a rom.
You'll never have the same stabillity... functionality even.
We could, of course, have a cook try and give us one very simple 6.1 rom with manilla3D cooked in.... it would be nice... just as a proof of concept.
Laurentius26...think that was is nick, once attempted it...
Now... that developments which i'm NOT aware now, like KaiserGL, VG and such...
stability...
i guess its how you choose the right files to flash and how you flash it because i did noticed different owner with same device, manilas and ROM but getting different results...
Hi.
Which Rom are using??
i'm using stock ROM 3.29