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Tomtom Nav 5 prob with loadin on qtek 9100

Hi
Brand new QTEK9100 and trying to load tomtom5 - inserting the mini sd programme boots up and gives initial install screen for a second or so then disapears - nothing else happens - what am i doing wrong ?
thanks

Search the forum, there are (already far too) many topics about TT5 on the Wizard.

Frenchie, It's sad that people like Molski, who started on this forum with same problems as you have and I had, can answer in this "clever" way.
I finally got my Qtek running with TT5.
It would be good to upgrade your Wizard to a aku 2.+. Use one of the ROMs on the ftp, first unlock your SIM using Awizard (also available on the xda ftp).
Go to the TOMTOM site and download the update 5.21.
Pair your BT on com 7 before installing TT5. Start the TT5 update and install.
What did it for me was to switch of my BT and to switch it on at the same time as starting TT5 the first time, then go to settings, other BT and choose com 7. Now it should start and work.

Vilem said:
Frenchie, It's sad that people like Molski, who started on this forum with same problems as you have and I had, can answer in this "clever" way.
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I also asked a lot of stuff...but NOT questions that are asked a 1000 times already like "how do I upgrade my Rom" or "how do I install TT5", because the answers to all this questions are given many many times on this forum!
The search page is really one of my favourite pages of this forum.
It's SAD to see that new members are asking questions (that are asked about 5-10 times a week) without even take one look at the search page.
Regards,
Molski.

Vilem said:
Frenchie, It's sad that people like Molski, who started on this forum with same problems as you have and I had, can answer in this "clever" way.
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It would be good to upgrade your Wizard to a aku 2.+. Use one of the ROMs on the ftp, first unlock your SIM using Awizard (also available on the xda ftp).
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First, you must CID unlock your phone if you want to use either a custom Rom or a Rom from another carrier. SIM unlock only allows you to use another carrier's SIM in your phone. Search for "CID Unlock" you'll find what you need to know.
Second, it is sad when you come here feeling entitled to have others who have taken the time and effort to read these great forums just answer every single question time and time again. I guess you think you're special because none of your friends have a Wizard and you want to show them how cool you can make it but don't want to do the work?
Having a Wizard doesn't make anyone special here. In fact most of us have owned more than 1 Windows Mobile phone. Personally I started with Nokia Smartphones running Symbian and graduated to Windows Mobile 2003. Then I moved up to Windows Mobile 2005.
I was a newbie once but I didn't just come in ask ask with reckless abandon. I spent time reading the forums. It's amazing how well things will work for you if you actually take the time to search and read-up on this great little device.
There is a wealth of information here and you will get all of the help you could ever want if you will just put in a little effort.

It's a forum, meaning you can ask, ask, ask............
I did and will.

@Vilem
Never read THIS:
1. Check if something hasn't been asked before
Some questions just keep popping up over and over. Please use the 'search' function in the menu above each and every page in the forum. Try entering a few keywords to see if your question has been asked before. If it has, please read the topics and see if you can figure it our from there.
(We acknowledge that part of the problem is that we never created a well-organized system of FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) documents. But then we're doing lots of cutting-edge stuff, and we'd rather build cool tools than work on perfecting FAQs.)
It belongs to the STICKY "Please read this before posting", but I taka a wild guess that you never read this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534

Yes I did, and I also tried all remarks/suggestions on the forum, which in my case didn't work. So I re-issued my question and never ever received a comment or answer back.
It can happen, as in my case, that people have problems which are not mentioned earlier. Even you could have something like that, then it would be helpfull if there are people who would help.

Molski, see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53317&highlight=

Okay, thats true, but that does NOT mean that you can ask, ask, ask about everything pal

Oh I didnt know you could ask about everything but now i know here goes.
I'm trying to get a new business plan down on paper and every morning when i start i move onto something else like thread hopping. is there a cure to this problem and do i need a firmware upgrade?
bhayani
ps did a search bit no luck. Not all answers are on there, BUT most are.
this thread could easily be put to bed right now as long as noone replies to it.

tempting...............
O.k I'll stop.

Which ROM recomend to my cingular 8125

Hi folks
Actually I have a cingular 8125 CID & SIM unlocked, it work with lokiwiz. I would like to know wich ROM update do you recomend me to put inside it and the procedure to do that. I´m a completly neebie.
My Wizard says
ROM version 1.8.11.1 WWE
ROM date 11/24/05
Radio Version 01.16.11
Protocol version 4.0.13.21
ExtROM 1.8.11.103
Flash chip type : M-Systems G3
Model No.: WIZA100
Thanks a lot
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jefferson_paredes said:
Hi folks
Actually I have a cingular 8125 CID & SIM unlocked, it work with lokiwiz. I would like to know wich ROM update do you recomend me to put inside it and the procedure to do that. I´m a completly neebie.
My Wizard says
ROM version 1.8.11.1 WWE
ROM date 11/24/05
Radio Version 01.16.11
Protocol version 4.0.13.21
ExtROM 1.8.11.103
Flash chip type : M-Systems G3
Model No.: WIZA100
Thanks a lot
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I recommend you stay with the stock rom. You don't want to take the time to read, you don't want to take the time to learn, and I quote:
jefferson_paredes said:
I´m a completly neebie.
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Thanks for the useless response.
Actually Im reading a lot of stuff about the AKU 2.3, learning about the experience about of version 2.17. but I think someone can give your opinion or advice about the diferent versions.
Thanks again for nothing.

jefferson_paredes said:
Thanks for the useless response.
Actually Im reading a lot of stuff about the AKU 2.3, learning about the experience about of version 2.17. but I think someone can give your opinion or advice about the diferent versions.
Thanks again for nothing.
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This forum is not for the faint of heart. It is halfway expected that you experiment and read up on other's experiences before asking for help. Most folks here did precisely that and have learned from experience and mistakes, that is why you'll receive that kind of response.
My recommendation to you is to start with the newly released ROM from Cingular and after you get your feet wet, you can move on to bigger and bolder moves. I used to have a "cooked" ROM but I have since moved onto the new stock rom without the extended rom and it has served me well.

jlczl said:
My recommendation to you is to start with the newly released ROM from Cingular and after you get your feet wet, you can move on to bigger and bolder moves. I used to have a "cooked" ROM but I have since moved onto the new stock rom without the extended rom and it has served me well.
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This is helpful
Thanks

I also had the original ROM. I upgraded to 2.17 first and then to 2.25 original ROM from Cingular. I have heard that some folks had problems downgrading so I have only gone up. Eventually summiter will have a modified version that covers new stuff.
I now have push email that I think is great. Go sign up on www.mail2web.com for mail2web live. And go to your email provider and forward but do not delete from the server you email to your mail2web.com exchange server. Then set up ActiveSync to the mail2web server settings. It is great. The email shows up on your phone sometimes before it shows up on your Outlook.

jefferson_paredes said:
Thanks for the useless response.
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Garbage in, garbage out. Sticks and stones mate.
Posting what you did, I gave you exactly what you should have expected. I'm not going to tell you to go ahead, void your warranty, and you some how brick your device by flashing it wrong or using the wrong rom, Summiter's projects or not.
I'm merely stating that with the lack of information you provided, and the type of post you made (which as been done many times), you should have thought a little harder about what you're getting into.
I personally don't want to be responsible for you flashing your device, and neither does the author of the custom rom you may choose. My statement of "stick with the stock rom" also applies to recommended STOCK upgrades, such as the one found here:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/software_downloads_8125.htm
I still don't recommend you electing to flash a custom rom until you are more confident about the possibility of dumping $700 worth of phone as a paper weight. There is always the chance you will brick your device. If you do it with a stock rom, then the provider's warranty kicks in and they have to take the dive, not you or your pocket book.
So dear sir, for the lame attempt at shoving my post right back in my face, it was actually quite helpful if you bothered, once again, to read, read, and read some more. I'm not doing this to flame you, I'm not doing this to be a tard or a ****... but I am taking the voice of many users here who heed caution to you, because using a customized rom is a serious matter, and should be taken into consideration when a $700 device may be bricked.
Just trying to cautiously make you aware of the circumstances. My recommendation: stick with stock - upgrades are a part of stock roms and don't void your warranty (as long as they don't investigate the SuperCID unlocking you did, you're all gravy).
Cheers! and best of luck on your ROM hunt.

Once again, another seasoned poster on this board comes across as a total A-hole to someone brand new here,
Maybe in your circles this is the way you and your buddies interact. And for some who have been here a while they may learn to understand your inflections.
But YOU should realize that this new poster needs to get oriented to this board and HELP point him in the right direction. THAT is YOUR responsibility as an old timer here. And yes you WERE flaming him on the initial response.
As Charles Barkley said " I ain't no role model" well get used to it. YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL as well as everyone else here who knows the ins and outs. And your

jschaff said:
Once again, another seasoned poster on this board comes across as a total A-hole to someone brand new here,
Maybe in your circles this is the way you and your buddies interact. And for some who have been here a while they may learn to understand your inflections.
But YOU should realize that this new poster needs to get oriented to this board and HELP point him in the right direction. THAT is YOUR responsibility as an old timer here. And yes you WERE flaming him on the initial response.
As Charles Barkley said " I ain't no role model" well get used to it. YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL as well as everyone else here who knows the ins and outs. And your
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I agree 100% with your post. the post made by mengesb was useless and unnecessary.

We have no responsibilities here to instruct you ...
If you don't take the time to research, then that's your decision. If you don't like a response, that's your call.
We try to help all who show a desire to learn. Be careful of who you offend when you ***** about an "Old Timer" that's responding to a Posting that has very little information regarding the knowledge of the Poster.
Me personally, I'm tired of *****ing.. I'm tired of folks like you. I get annoyed at responding to the same questions because no one can read back a few posts.
If we displease you... maybe look for help somewhere else.
I'm noticing that fewer and fewer of the "old timer's" are responding... wonder why?
Steven
chow

To answer the question, the best rom IMHO currently is Summiter's multi-installer AKU2.3 package. He's fixed many of the initial gotcha's and the result is the best radio/AKU combination for the 8125. The only issue is a pesky Times New Roman font that occasionally crops up.
Once SIM & CID unlocked, you'll have no pblms installing this one with your v3 chipset.

Dr Puttingham said:
We have no responsibilities here to instruct you ...
If you don't take the time to research, then that's your decision. If you don't like a response, that's your call.
We try to help all who show a desire to learn.
Me personally, I'm tired of *****ing.. I'm tired of folks like you. I get annoyed at responding to the same questions because no one can read back a few posts.
I'm noticing that fewer and fewer of the "old timer's" are responding... wonder why?
Steven
chow
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I can understand where you're coming from. I'm pretty "new" to these forums, as well -- actually, though . . . NOT!! I "lurked" for a LONG time before I ever started posting and read every thread I could find about upgrading, tweaking, hacking, etc., etc.
I'm coming from a Carrier's customer forum where I feel about THAT forum the same way the "old-timers" here feel about noobs posting questions. It seems like every 4 - 6 weeks, there's an influx of noobs, and they all keep asking the same questions over and over again, without taking the time to use the site's search feature, and we "old-timers" get tired of answering the same questions over and over again, and get extremely frustrated that posters WON'T take the time to do a search and read and apply before posting. AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! I mean, the answers to 75% of the questions that are asked are right in the User's Manual, for Pete's Sake!!
So, I'm now spending more of my time here reading, researching, applying and THEN asking, if need be. Much more productive information over here, anyway. So, I can see BOTH SIDES of this coin -- both as a relative noob here and as a seasoned veteran of the other forum.
Personally, though, the main reason I don't post more often than I do is that I feel pretty much intimidated with all of the knowledge and the members WITH that knowledge on this forum. But, I will also be quick to say that when I had a problem with a tweak, or a hack that I couldn't seem to overcome, there have been those who have bent over backwards for me to help when I would PM them about it, and THAT was very much appreciated. The ones who have gone that "extra mile" have never in any way made me feel inferior to them when it comes to developmental issues I've inquired about.
From lurking around on here, I've turned into a virtual SPONGE, trying to soak it all in and learn all there is to learn. . . so, bear with me if I should happen to be the one asking a question -- ok??

Lurking is good. The best way to learn here is by lurking and reading, and not just reading selected postings for a day or two. So many questions have already been asked and just need to be found. These forums move quickly and sometimes one needs to go back a few pages to find something and the search COULD be better, but that's the way it is.
I was referring to those that call mengesb names, etc because he didn't give them the answer that they wanted. Actually I thought that he put more time and understanding into answering the OP than I might have, given the information presented. And no, he didn't flame the author.
And I, for one, might not go all out to help someone that responds in such a manner should they need assistance in the future. I mean, who wants to offer advise and risk being called an A-Hole? Not me, that's for sure!
That's just my opinion.
Steven

As someone relatively new to this forum, I've tried to take the same tack as newbie2 and lurk as much as I can. However, even the most comprehensive community cannot answer any and all questions that someone may have. The key here is to be able to differentiate between valid questions asked by someone who's new, and idiotic questions asked by someone who doesn't care to do some research.
That being said, even with about a week’s worth of research I have yet to find a definitive answer as to which custom ROM is the best, and, because we are a community of volunteers, a lot of documentation that would exist for a commercial product is missing. Now that's to be expected, and I don't fault the ROM developer for building what is essentially, something for him, that he shares with the community. However, given that this documentation either doesn't exist or is distinctly lacking, I think the community that the ROM is shared with could be a bit more forthcoming with information, either by making it available in a wiki or in these forums. Keyword searching to try to find the best extended ROM gives a whole bunch of people asking which one is best, as well as the two or three large threads with either summiter's ROM or MrClean's.
Now I know that experimenting can be the best way to find out the information that I seek, but when it's possible to brick a $400 piece of electronics simply by experimenting, one has to be as prudent and careful as possible. That's a frightening proposition and it puts a lot of newbies in a difficult position.
So to conclude this rather verbose post, the best thing that can be done is for the older and more experienced posters to simply respond with a bit of information about the topic being asked, and then if there is a more specific question, to explain to the poster that they can search for this info. This gives newer people that do search and do research the benefit of information shared from more experienced posters without hopefully clogging up the forum with tons of the same question.

Words of caution - and some help
By far, as many of the thread lurkers here can say, the roms submitted by Summiter are probably the better quality roms. But, in light of things, you have a few options:
Mr. Clean ROMs
Summiter's ROMs
Mobiz ROMs
these are the three that I've seen around these parts. Mr. Clean roms are a derrivitive of Summiter's projects, which basically clean out the carrier customization. If you don't like carrier customizations, then this rom would be the best for you.
For those of us who like to use carrier customizations, we usually elect to use Summiter's roms. They typically are very stable, fast, and come already with the generally pre-defined or commonly desired hacks located in the wiki.
As for the Mobiz ROMs, I cannot say one thing or another. I've only recently seen talk about them in the past month or so, and I'm not going to speak of a product I don't have personal experience from.
I don't want to come off complete as a jack ass, but you also do understand where I'm coming from - if my recommendation nukes your device, who's the first person you're going to flame? Me or the Author of that ROM. I've been experimenting with my own ROM customizations myself, and let me tell you, even I haven't dared flash one of my own creations because numerous people here have nuked their devices doing that very thing! I... for now... like many other people await for a seasoned ROM cooking professional to work on those waffles until the ROM feels right - Summiter.
What I will always recommend a new comer is to stick with a stock rom, and do as many minor adjustments to their device as possible just to simply make it faster. If Summiter would post is SummSumm.cab file, that would be perfect for you honestly! You wouldn't void your warranty, and that cab has a lot of good registry hacks to make your device nice and speedy.
When you're ready, and know the concequences, there will be people here to help you attempt to save your device if it does get in trouble. Here's a quick note in that event:
If for some reason your flash fails, or gets interrupted (either by you unplugging the USB cable because you think its hanging; or the dreaded BSOD - blue screen of death), when your device reboots, hold down the camera key. This should load you into the bootloader if its not completely nuked. If you get a tri-color (RGB) screen with/without some white and a 'USB' marking above the left soft key, then you're still good. Resume the updater and don't interupt it.
I'm sure this is a more polite way of giving you the information you seek - and helps you to being well on your way to the club of warranty voided 8125's like many of us here pay our memberships to. I always want to have the voice of this, "Flashing your device can brick your $400-650 investiment - you have been warned."
I'd also recommend searching posts made by the following: machinagod, summiter, Dr Puttingham, and kyphur.

The warranty warning is a valid issue. And the latest ROM release by Cingular is an OK ROM. In your position I'd probably upgrade to that official version and install one of the various reg tweaks cabs available here. I've been using Molski's speed tweaks contribution and notice a marked improvement when using any of the ROMs'.
I personally go back and forth between sumitter's latest, the PDA Mobiz (cuz I like some of the add-ins) and a test ROM that faria made special for me.
If you decide to chance your warranty that's your decision. Actually very few folks that have painstaking followed the procedure have bricked their phones but there's always that chance. I made a conscious decision at the beginning of the year when I got my Wizard that .. first, I had to have direct push and second, if I DID brick my phone I'd consider it a $300 paperweight and blame no one but myself.
I've flashed my phone at least a dozen times I'm sure, in addition to maybe 10 or so of my clients. Luckily I've never bricked a phone yet but a lot of that isn't luck. If you go this route and decide to use an unofficial ROM you must CID and SIM unlock. There are those that say different but sumitter, faria and other custom ROM builders say "do", up to you.
Anything we can help you with, ask.
Steven
chow

I have a TMo MDA and am a six-week-old noob, but learning fast, having spent probably 1000 hours reading posts from here and HoFo. I've decided to keep the stock ROM, at least for the time being, for the reasons cited in previous replies here. Also, in almost every case with the custom ROM's there is a minority that have problems, either small or big, and that has led me away from the adventure of ROM burning. Plus, my stock ROM works fine for me and I'm only having one problem that may be solved by now. It has no major quirks, has enough memory remaining, and rarely crashes.
What bothers me about the custom ROM's is the undercetainty of some of the steps. Do I need Lokowiz and if so which version? Some say you must use the older 2a under some circumstances. With at least one ROM upgrade you can upgrade if you have ROM "X," but if you have "Y" you must downgrade to "Z" first and then upgrade. I entertained the possibility of just doing a hard-reset, then omit the TMo extended ROM, but nowhere could I find info on what I'm missing by eliminating it. Will the phone function at 100% without it? Can I selectively run the CAB's, and if so who makes a list of what is in each CAB? Too many questions for which I see no answers, or foggy ones. Someone needs to write a comprehensive FAQ on these topics.
I did do the slit-antenna mod, which did help a bit, and that was only one day into my MDA ownership. That was a big jump and didn't seem like a risky move like the fingers-crossed, heart-pumping, adrenaline rush of flashing your ROM. I also have installed apps and tweaks that have made the MDA a pleasant experience so far.
My advice would be to play with your new phone for a while and ask yourself, "Am I happy with the way this works," then read about other ROMs available and ask yourself another question: "Will this help enhance my PDA-phone experience in any meaningful way, or do I just like the rush of playing in the street?" Then decide if the improvements, if any, are worth the risks. So far for me they are not...but who knows what will happen tomorrow.

I feel like a commercial here, but I think for newbies (as me) the mobiz ROM has a the usefull stuff, it has all tweaks, programs etc.
I still like it and keep on using it.

8125 w/G4 Rom -how to get rid of stock 2.25 rom?

Hi, i've been looking and reading now for a couple days looking at comments and stuff on those with the newer 8125 G4 chipsets. I can't find a dedicated thread on how to switch it to another rom. I would like to use summiters test2 rom. I had this installed on another 8125 which i returned a couple days ago as the screen had a blimish on it. Too bad as I did downgrade and do everything following the guidelines for it and it worked great. I've seen threads pointing to other threads on the G4's but it seems like people get off topic or don't post what worked and what didn't work. Anyway, if i'm just missing it would someone kindly point me to the right thread or maybe use this thread to post the way it's done currently. I've read you can't go below the 2.xx but what rom's can you use? The main reason I want to put another rom on is the constant locking up. When I had summiters on the other unit it ran perfectly. I have the 2.25.0001 IPL/SPL when it first boots up so i know that's the G4. Thanks for reading......
J

From what people have said, there's a query as to whether or not the CID/SIM unlock on a G4 chipset can be done. That's your major problem.
What I can say for certain, is that if anyone is developing a G4 solution, that would be machinagod. Search for his posts... and see if a tool LokiwizMSL0.3a will do the trick for you. To do this, search for all posts by machinagod, and you'll find a thread on lokiwizMSL which apparently states it works for 2.xx spl's.
BTW, don't forget to enablerapi.cap =) don't say i didn't warn you.

thanks....I looked up machinagod's stuff the other day when looking thru the forums....I guess until I see someone's reply that says thier 8125 with the 2.25.0001 has been changed to ?? rom i'll wait. I get that you can sim unlock the unit if you have another sim to use but after that there is some confusion as to what to do. It would be nice if someone knows exactly what steps to take and all. What options are avail for this G4 unit when you sim unlock it and even pay to cid unlock it if that is necessary. I would just like to use a different rom than Cingulars 2.25 as my unit keeps locking up....mostly after a call but also when browsing on the net. It has locked up using IE and Opera. I called Cingular this morning and the guy said they are upgrading the towers here in So. Florida and people have been complaining about dropped calls and thier phones locking up. Mine though locks even when not on a call...I asked him if they had any "older" new phones but he said he wasn't sure so guess i'll just keep plugging along and reading and hope to find a thread explaining the solution. Thanks again!
J

What we're all not sure of is the address differences between the G3 and G4 chipsets.
One thread, which I cannot recall right now, did detail a way to go from a G4 stock rom to a summiter rom, but I am not sure where it is here, nor what to search for amongst the thousands of threads. My suggestion might be to search for anything that has like '.0001' or 'g4 spl' in it. That might narrow your fields down. Also setting the search to things such as 'posts' instead of threads, that will help. Narrowing the field even further, you can specify the wizard to forum threads, or the wizard upgrading forum threads. I'd stick to the upgrading threads for g4 issues, as for unlocks and such, that machinagod usually posts that in the general wizard forum.

thanks man for the reply....I downloaded the rom from HTC just to reflash and see if maybe it might help with the locking problem somewhat...um, well, it got to 95% complete and an error popped up saying something about the nb file was bad....so, it was looped i guess in the boot screen....turned it off and on only to have that screen come up...tried to reconnect, which it did and started to reflash and again it stopped at 95% after using a new downloaded rom...the same 2.25 from HTC that is...oh well, took it back to the store and got a new one...still has the .0001 on it so will do some more searching and reading and will wait for a viable fix...not gonna be in a hurry if it runs without locking up....call sounds seem to be better i've noticed but that could just be wishful thinking...oh well...thanks again!
J

i'm a newb

so, i dont know how yall here deal with general newbs to the site, but with a few other forums that i frequent(automotive related forums) they encourage the new members to make an intro post in the off topic.
so here i am. my name is Nick, i have an HTC wizard in the form of a cingular 8125, and i honestly do not plan to post much. only read and learn, and ask when i cant find clear info from the search, or simply do not understand something. not trying to pride myself, but i do consider myself somewhat tech savy, yet the information i have allready found/read here(i've been reading through topics for weeks now, through the shopping stage for a new phone, to how to's about upgrading and such for the said phone) has been top notch. very in depth, yet easily understandable. kudos to you all.

Welcome to the forum!
Let me reassure you that you are off to a great start here!
I think in fact you can stop referring to your self as noob since you already poses two qualities which will keep you from getting flamed on this forum:
1) You know exactly what phone you own.
2) (And this is a most important) You know to read and search before asking.
This used to be a small technical forum a few years back (before even I joined) so when people see a question like "Urgent! I need WM 6 now!" or "
What phone did I by, it has a green background?" (yes we do get questions exactly like this) some of the users tend to get a little testy.
But never be discouraged from posting! Most of the people here are nice and even if your question has been asked and answered before, they will give you an answer or at least a link to the relevant thread.
One final suggestion: I see you do not have a signature yet. As you probably seen already many of us have exact model and ROM version of our phones in the signature. This is not just to brag about who got WM 6 or the latest AKU. When specific questions arise it saves us detailing whet we have in each post.
Well, enjoy your new phone!

As the guy said above youve pretty much ensured you have the right attitude dude
To add i would recommend filling out which network you use and what country you are in, they are in the profile options menu.
Welcome to xda-devs!

As levenum and mrvanx said you are on a good way. I strongly advise you to use a signature with details concerning your device and its setup as levenum said. Some people even provide list of software they use in there. It makes troubleshooting of your problems easier. Have a fun with your device and welcome!

Thanks guys and gals.
so, after reading through numerous threads and topics, i decided to give flashing my device a try. i printed off the instructions from a few topics, and downloaded all the files beforehand so i wouldn't have to worry about opening and closing Firefox in between steps to check instructions. sat down, and within an hour and a half my phone went from the Cingular 2.25 IPL/SPL 2.25.11 GSM and the 2.25.11.1 OS to SIM and CID unlocked running the T-mobile 2.26, with the 2.47.11 radio, and the Xplore 1.1 OS. was no hastle at all, really. followed the prompts, and played halo till i heard the phone beep at the windows mobile setup screen. figured it was best as then i wouldn't panic if it hung up at a certain percentage for a few minutes while installing anything.
my phone feels like an entirely different animal, and i like it very much!
the information that i found and followed led me to work on my device with the confidence that i would not brick this thing. i figured if i followed the directions of those who have done it numerous times before, i'd be hard pressed to be led awry. the _ONLY_ part of the whole process that i felt lost about what choosing which WM6 rom to put on it. seems like that's just a bit of personal trial and opinion though. from looking at the device setups in many of the senior member's sigs, i found xplore to be a popular choice, so yet again. do as the masters do.
thanks again for all of your expertise and contributions to this site. this site is directly responsible for turning my great new phone into even more of a fun/exciting/productive tool in my life.

mim37204 said:
Thanks guys and gals.
so, after reading through numerous threads and topics, i decided to give flashing my device a try. i printed off the instructions from a few topics, and downloaded all the files beforehand so i wouldn't have to worry about opening and closing Firefox in between steps to check instructions. sat down, and within an hour and a half my phone went from the Cingular 2.25 IPL/SPL 2.25.11 GSM and the 2.25.11.1 OS to SIM and CID unlocked running the T-mobile 2.26, with the 2.47.11 radio, and the Xplore 1.1 OS. was no hastle at all, really. followed the prompts, and played halo till i heard the phone beep at the windows mobile setup screen. figured it was best as then i wouldn't panic if it hung up at a certain percentage for a few minutes while installing anything.
my phone feels like an entirely different animal, and i like it very much!
the information that i found and followed led me to work on my device with the confidence that i would not brick this thing. i figured if i followed the directions of those who have done it numerous times before, i'd be hard pressed to be led awry. the _ONLY_ part of the whole process that i felt lost about what choosing which WM6 rom to put on it. seems like that's just a bit of personal trial and opinion though. from looking at the device setups in many of the senior member's sigs, i found xplore to be a popular choice, so yet again. do as the masters do.
thanks again for all of your expertise and contributions to this site. this site is directly responsible for turning my great new phone into even more of a fun/exciting/productive tool in my life.
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Choosing right version of the ROM for the device is something that is entirely dependant on individual needs of the user. Most people advise to read their corresponding threads to get as much info about theose ROMs as possible. You can see what problems others had as well as solutions/fixes for these. There are many peple still asking - what is the best ROM? They should ask themselves: What do I need? first.
And in case of WM6 as of yet most available ROMs are betaversions (at least for Hermes) and it is therefore probable that some functionality will be missing/buggy. People tend to ignore that when making decisions. That especially applies to cooked ROMs that may omit certain functionality on purpose.
The moral is: if you think (sentient beings are welcome there) and know what you want/need you are on good way to enjoy your stay here and not harm your device.

Welcome aboard Min.
As the others have mentioned. You are on a great start. Myself spent probably 2 weeks of solid reading on here before I even posted a single question. Cause of this I was able to get a fast response and not flammed.

mim37204 you have started right and I wish you the best of luck with your 8125. Welcome to xda-developers!!! If I can ever help just PM me.

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Guys, these are the most interesting:
counter strike
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The site that this guy has posted on this site and another has a virus or something attached to it, My virus scanner is going bezerk!
Other site is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303360
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SPV M700 Flash with latest HTC Rom with GPS.. Help!

I'm sure it's been covered in a thread but I'm not able to find it so would appreciate someone explaining the following......
Is it possible to flash my bog standard M700 with the latest HTC ROM from their website?
I've been given a copy but I couldn't download it because of the Orange IMEI number would not resolve. Presumably there are no issues due to this and it will work just fine?
Lastly, has anyone written a step by step idiot guide to doing this? If not could someone please reply and tell me? I'm not all that techy with ROMs but can am OK with PCs and registry stuff etc.
Many thanks in advance!!

You're right it has been covered ;-), HOWEVER.....
NO you cannt use the HTC version on the Orange M700, it's just for the HTC branded phones. SO now relax and get a cooked version... Either MUN-RUS OR LVSW's are good. I personally have the LVSW version......
Look for it in the Trinity WM6 forum.
In the first post is ALL the software you need, grab all 3 bits of software, apply them in order as listed in the instructions. And thats it, shiney new WM6 M700.... however remeber after you do this to remake all the MMS settings etc etc otherwise Photo Messaging etc etc wont work BUT on Oranges' web site there is a "me Proof" guide to putting it right ;-)
Thats it, go get'em fella

Thanks, Just out of interest, why won't the HTC ROM work, after all it's still an HTC device!

Being lazy... do you have the link to the post please?

So you found this site, BUT cannt within this site find the Trinity Mobile 6 Forum or read the very first 2 posts in there?
Get a grip ;-)
As for the HTC thing... guess it's to stop people taking thier software off them and using it elsewhere, and all the troubles that entails with licsencing etc, ALSO dont forget Orange "Value Add" to the phone (brand the day lights out of it ;-) )

Yes found the link!! Just didn't think it was that obvious so wasn't looking at the top! Dohh!
What's Value Add?
Can anyone point me toward instructions on how to extract or backup my exiting Orange M700 ROM in can the upgrade goes pear shapped?
Still a little confused as to why the HTC ROM will not work. Can someone explain properly please?

It is all explained on the forums if, as deech says you "get a grip"
Do a search.
The reason upgrading will not work is mentioned in this the upgrade forum if you look. If you can't even look for it I'm not sure you'll understand the information though as it would involve thinking.
The way to backup a rom is also mentioned in this forum. In fact if you could be bothered to search you could quite easily find one that's already been made by one of the members of this forum in this forum section. It's even on this first page of this upgrade forum.
I don't quite agree with Deech though. I say you should get off your lazy arse and actually look for the information you want rather than just expecting everyone to point out information that's right in front of your eyes if you just look.
Sorry to flame but it drives me nuts that people can be so lazy and expect everyone else to find the information for them.

Value Add..... all those shiney little things that Orange and Vodafone etc add to the basic software, Like the WAP portal, Today Pages, etc etc, a straight HTC ROM (or Nokia, or Motorloa) ROM is very plain and boring, but often works sooo much better than that provided by the Mobile Company after they have "tinkered" with it, hence Value Added.
I agree though you shouldnt be re-flashing your phone if you cannt work the search button and read and FULLY understand what the hell is happening, and how to make things right IF they go wrong ;-)

If you know ehere something is it take 10 seconds to actually be helpful and tell someone whos asks in a polite manner!!
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!

Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?

Here's what you do. Download the official HTC ROM and try flashing your phone with it, then you might actually believe us when we tell you that you can't flash your phone with it. The official reason that you can't use it on your phone is because your phone isn't actually an HTC phone, it's an Orange SPV M700. Or so they'll have you believe.
I understand the difference between a half" Whitty and a half" UNC. One's a Whitty and one's a UNC, easy
Read the forums, then ask questions.
Peace,
BS...

MIZZO1628 said:
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
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Hi m8, Looks like you're in need of a little friendly advice, so here goes!
Despite what they're all telling you in this thread, you *CAN* quite easily flash the latest HTC Trinity ROM to your M700... You will first need to unlock your phone OR use the SoftSPL method described in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
Unfortunately, you will need to educate yourself a little to achieve what you desire and this means READ and UNDESTAND the above thread before you attempt anything!
All the ROM's you could ever wish for are available through this site, here :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
To be even more helpful, the HTC ROM you require is here :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/2296300...1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS.exe
(Looking at one of your other help question threads, it looks like you don't know how to download from Rapidshare, you need to go to the bottom of the above linked page and click the "FREE" button, then choose your download site from the page that follows... enter the security key as shown and dah dah.... a download!)
If you need any further help then PM me, rather than filling up this thread any further!
I hope this helps!
Moz.

MIZZO1628 said:
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
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Happy to help, but you ask a question I answered it.
As for showing off about Whit / UNC threads..... dont judge books by thier covers, in real life I am a Marine Engineer serving on some of the largest container ships ever built in a very senior position
Now please please take the time to learn about your phone, read all the fora here, and sort out what it is you want to do. And happy flashing once you pop you cannt stop

LOL. is all I can say. You haven't got a hope in hell.
You CAN'T flash the HTC to an M700 because it's locked to Orange. (Similar to a sim lock... Need that explained? Or can you search now??)
Unlock it and you're laughing. (As Mozzer says)
When I posted last, less than 5 posts below yours asking about backing up the rom was the post containing the last link Mozzer has given you, as I said it was even on the first page of threads, not far to look. A forum search for M700 would have shown it immediately.
Backing up the ROM is much harder than flashing it so would have been out of the question for you.
As for UNC and Whitworth. All I can say is congratulations. You, like pretty much all of us (if not all of us) here, also have knowledge in other fields.
I won't bother trying to make myself look big by quizzing you.
I have to admit I have very little knowledge of these devices and am forever endebted to the members of this forum for the information that is shared here and the work put in by many. The difference between you and me is I don't demand it on a plate.
I can use the search engine and look at Stickies. They're stickied for a reason! That reason is either to warn you of forum regulations OR because they are important.
It's not that hard to look in the Trinity subforum and at the first topic which is a link to the Trinity Wiki. (U know what a wiki is? Or is that not of interest as it's not UNC?)
In the Trinity Upgrading sub forum:
5 posts below this (probably seven when I submit this) is a thread entitled:
Moz's RUU_Trinity_Orange_UK_1.23.61.5_1.38.00.11_GSM_NoI PL_NoSPL.exe
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder what that is..... I admit it's a tad convoluted. But you know you have a trinity which is badged by orange.
Third sticky down is entitled:
SSPL (or flashing any ROM 4 free)
Can't think what that's about. I want to flash my M700 with HTC branded.. Could this help? Naah I'll just save time and get everyone to do it for me.
In the Trinity Mobile 6 forum:
First 2 Stickies.. Wonder what they do. Won't bother looking.
Can anyone tell me how to wipe my arse. I've lost the ability to see and use my hands.
In my last post if you look I gave you some clues as to where you could find what you wanted. I'm on alot of forums and people who can't be arsed to have a look for themselves piss me off. If you'd looked and said I've found this that and the other but I'm not sure about it could someone help explain please I'd have done what I could to explain. But you couldn't even do that!

Many Thanks MOZZER!
At least there is someone here who has taken the time to be helpful.

So Deech... what is the difference i between half inch Whit and UNC?

Hi Mozzerr!
As you were kind enough to help with sensible answers could you please advise on the following:
I feel that the Orange ROM on the M700 seems a bit shaky and the GPS take forever to make a cold start... just a gut feeling it's probably the ROM hence the view to flash it.
In your opinion are there any major advantager to WM6 over the HTC release. I don't use 3G stuff or other advance comms mail etc. just the Phone, Active synce stuff, MP3s, Camera and TomTom via the GPS?
What would you do?

Ah now a sensible question.
WM6 is considerably faster than WM5 when it comes to loading menus and programs (and as far as I've found is completely stable).
There currently appear to be a few people who have a battery drain issue, which I for one have not had and should be ironed out soon.
If you use tomtom there is a cab somewhere (I forget where) in the Windows Mobile 6 forum called ATIfix.cab which fixes the freeze issue (if you get it).
If you're going to go to WM6, which I personally would recommend, you can always flash back to the HTC flash if you don't like it.
TBH other than speed for what you've listed as items you use it'd be more about the look and feel of it, so try both and go with what you're happier with.
I hope that helps.

Just remember you loose all the Orange Branding when you flash, so "IF" you find any of it remotely useful it will disappear, including settings for MMS etc.
The Tom Tom Freeze thing seems pretty common, mine idi it big time, but everything else is nicer, faster and smoother.
WM6 is..... nice and well worth it

There is a cab on the forums with all the MMS setting on this forum. I think I linked relinked it somewhere in the Mobile 6 forum, plus some people have extracted several of the orange programs and posted them.