OK, i've read enough noob posts looking for help here to know what wikis to read since instead of helping, thats usually the answer. So for starters, I've read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904 (GWENI)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
Please please help me, I am so confused from all this. I see that the most popular ROM is the Dutty's WM6.1 hybrid, so I was going to try this. But my radio on my tilt says 1.27.14.09. I do not see any of those ROMs with that Radio. Are the radios interchangeable? Believe me when I say I have tried to search, but I guess my searching skills suck. I am confused about what radios go with what and which one I should use. Up until a few moments ago I thought "radio" referred to something you use to listen to music in the car. heh
I've got HardSPL and was on my way to downloading the Dutty ROM but ran into this. I havn't flashed the HardSPL yet. I am concerned abotu all the talk about graphics drivers and slow performance with the camera and sound and was hoping that one of these cooked ROMs took care of that. Will this add the needed graphics drivers to my Tilt?
I know you all are sick of noobs, but I'm really trying and just want to make my Tilt work the best it can. Thanks in advance for all your help. And if this isnt the right forum, please move it to where it belongs. Much thanks!
Shinare said:
OK, i've read enough noob posts looking for help here to know what wikis to read since instead of helping, thats usually the answer. So for starters, I've read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904 (GWENI)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
Please please help me, I am so confused from all this. I see that the most popular ROM is the Dutty's WM6.1 hybrid, so I was going to try this. But my radio on my tilt says 1.27.14.09. I do not see any of those ROMs with that Radio. Are the radios interchangeable? Believe me when I say I have tried to search, but I guess my searching skills suck. I am confused about what radios go with what and which one I should use. Up until a few moments ago I thought "radio" referred to something you use to listen to music in the car. heh
I've got HardSPL and was on my way to downloading the Dutty ROM but ran into this. I havn't flashed the HardSPL yet. I am concerned abotu all the talk about graphics drivers and slow performance with the camera and sound and was hoping that one of these cooked ROMs took care of that. Will this add the needed graphics drivers to my Tilt?
I know you all are sick of noobs, but I'm really trying and just want to make my Tilt work the best it can. Thanks in advance for all your help. And if this isnt the right forum, please move it to where it belongs. Much thanks!
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1. the radio you have is a WM6.0 radio. It will NOT work with WM6.1 which is what the rom you mentioned is.
2. You definitely need to get HardSPL flashed first. Not jumpslp. ONLY HARDSPL.
3. The video issue for me is minimal if that. I use Coreplayer and the video playback is perfectly fine.
4. The camera will always be weak. Nothing you can do about that without HTC fixing. it.
Hope that answered all you questions.
some rom's only work with some radio's (i think dutty includes compatible roms usually)
the cooked roms are faster than the standard rom so i wouldn't worry about the driver issue (that might be solved real soon anyway)
Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
OK, question again (sorry) but in Dutty's WM6.0 ROM there is this question and answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361544
Q: I can’t hear any sound after flashing. When I make phone calls I can’t hear the other person either.
A: You need to use a NON-ATT radio. 12.32 is a proven radio. You can find them on the ftp as well.
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Does this mean I can change the radio version and be able to use one of the newer ROMs? I'm just worried that Dutty's WM6 ROM is from January which is older than the Feb. HTC AT&T Tilt Rom I got from the HTC website.
Maybe I should wait since I read the post about new video drivers for HTC phones that should make the phone work better?
Sorry for the confusion.
Radio
1. Yes radios are interchangble
2. Some roms are compatible only with certain types of radios
2. A chef might or might not include a compatible radio. Best is to check in the specific rom thread
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Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
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You don't need to look for a rom that is compatible with your radio. You can find a 6.1 rom that includes a compatible radio. There are many on this site
Shinare said:
Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
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WHOA, I think you misunderstood. If you want a 6.1 rom, you just need a 6.1 compatible radio. To make this as painless as possible, I suggest you find a 6.1 rom with the radio included, such as Dutty & Laurentius. Good luck.
It's all in the links you linked and in plain english, but still hard to understand.
These are the ones that are for WM6.1 roms (as mentioned on each listing). You will need to mix and match to see which works best for you and your area. I hope this gives you a better understanding of how to read this. It all came out of the last link you posted..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
1.58.21.23
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.58.25.14
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.58.26.20
This WWE radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.64.06.04
This WWE radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
There are reports that this radio doesn't allow the phone to reset. You have to reset the phone using the stylus.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.64.08.21
This UK radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
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Ok, I think the muddy water is getting less cloudy, heh. So I need to find a ROM that has a radio with it and it will work... probably. The Radio FAQ says the 1.64.08.21 radio is the best for GPS and best for battery life but has to be used with WM6.1. But it says it is "UK". OK, so I went into that thread and, sparse as it is, people are saying it is a "vodaphone" and "UK" radio. Does this mean that it will only work in the UK with whatever "vodaphone" service? I live in the US and have AT&T service.
So, from what I've learned so far, it looks like I need to get Dutty's hybrid WM6.1 [Apr 29] (I'm assuming hybrid means the radio ROM 1.65.14.06 is included), thats a WWE radio (whatever that means). Because the radio 1.64.08.21 is for the UK I cant use it in the US (another assumption on my part).
So, when I flash it, does that mean its going to automatically work with my AT&T service, or are there some settings somewhere that will let it know what carrier and who I am.
I sure wish you guys could see how confusing this is to a total noob ROM flasher. hehe I sure do appreciate all your help.
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Ok, I think the muddy water is getting less cloudy, heh. So I need to find a ROM that has a radio with it and it will work... probably. .
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You don't HAVE TO find a rom with a radio in it. You have access to all of the radios. Find the rom you like, if it happens to not have the proper radio, then you now know where to get ALL of the 6.1 radios. After that test each one if you can't decide which is best.
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So, when I flash it, does that mean its going to automatically work with my AT&T service, or are there some settings somewhere that will let it know what carrier and who I am..
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It should, but sometimes things don't go the way they are supposed to. Rest assured someone has documented your problem and searching it out will save you.
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I sure wish you guys could see how confusing this is to a total noob ROM flasher. hehe I sure do appreciate all your help.
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As with any noob, I think your fear of the situation blinds you of the obvious. These wikis (as dry as they are) are extremely straight forward. If you start with the understanding that they provide everything you need then you will understand more. I hope.
OK, thanks for all your help. I wish that Radio wiki had a little more fundamental information about radios for us noobs. I mean, until you just told me, I was unaware that you could use any radio with any ROM, which in turn can be used on any kaiser/tilt (I assume). It could also have the steps one would go through to put the new radio in their phone. The advantages and disadvantages of each (assuming there are any since there are so many to choose from), etc. Ya know, whats the differences between WWE, Polaris, UK, etc and should I be concerned about that? Something more robust than just a listing of the different radios, if thats what a noob is going to be pointed to for radio questions. Just from the standpoint of a newbie knowing nothing about any of this and wanting to improve the phone they just got.
Thanks guys for your help. I think I have enough information now to start down the road to flashing my Tilt. And thanks for steering me in the right direction.
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OK, thanks for all your help. I wish that Radio wiki had a little more fundamental information about radios for us noobs. I mean, until you just told me, I was unaware that you could use any radio with any ROM, which in turn can be used on any kaiser/tilt (I assume). It could also have the steps one would go through to put the new radio in their phone. The advantages and disadvantages of each (assuming there are any since there are so many to choose from), etc. Ya know, whats the differences between WWE, Polaris, UK, etc and should I be concerned about that? Something more robust than just a listing of the different radios, if thats what a noob is going to be pointed to for radio questions. Just from the standpoint of a newbie knowing nothing about any of this and wanting to improve the phone they just got.
Thanks guys for your help. I think I have enough information now to start down the road to flashing my Tilt. And thanks for steering me in the right direction.
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It's all in the wiki info for flashing roms.
Q: What is a Radio ROM?
A: The Radio ROM contains the drivers for the communication devices of your phone. Some ROM’s need one or more specific Radio ROM’s to work properly. Usually the chef, who created the ROM recommends a Radio ROM. But don’t mind, if your Radio Rom does not match, you can always flash another without needing to flash the ROM containing the Operating System (OS) again.
You can check the version of your Radio ROM when you click Start > Settings > System > Device Information or booting your device (there will appear three lines of red text. The Radio ROM version is the number after the R:.
You can download Radio ROM's at the xda-developers FTP-Server in the Uploads/Kaiser/Radio-Folder. Username and password are both 'xda'. To install it, download, extract and execute it. Then follow the instructions on your screen. Flashing a Radio does not delete any files on your device's ROM.
To choose the perfect Radio ROM for you check this thread.
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EDIT** sorry I was in a hurry to get this out and it didn't make sense.
Um doesn't it look like more then just the radio? For instance
1.58.21.23
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
If it was just the radio (as you say) then it would be listed like this
1.58.21.23
Seems like what you just said wasn't there, was there..
I honestly think people are mentally blinded by their fear of the unknown.
i got an extra pair of eyeglasses (hour eyes buy one get one free) let me know if you need one
OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
i got an extra pair of eyeglasses (hour eyes buy one get one free) let me know if you need one
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And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
Well first of all, lol you're going to hate me, you should have read the only sticky in the roms forum. When I saw that you linked the GWENI post I assume (yes I know what that means) that it was..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
That faq/gweni that tells you everything you need to know.
Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
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They are the different phones listed on the main forum page (like you had to pick the kaiser phone as the one you wanted) and they are listed in the wiki.
It tells you they were taken from a polaris phone.. It's english.. What else do you want, the frequecy, ohms, etc that it transmits at? There really isn't much more to tell about this specific radio.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
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How hard is it to give someone the answer, literally paste answers they could have found on their own and then deal with them *****ing about it?
Did I just tell you to go read something? No I told you the answer and showed you where it was. I tracked down everything. How did I know where it was? Because I can read english.. This is not the OH LETS HELP THE NOOB site. This is the let the noob help himself site.
Noobs need to understand this place is a library for people interested in XDA gadgets (mainly htc branded) and in a library you can't just walk in and yell out. HELP ME, and then have **** downloaded right into your mind.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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Why are you sorry, you got every bit of knowledge you needed? What is your freakn deal?
I hope you enjoyed your spoon feeding. You won't get anymore from me.
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Here, let me help you swallow this.
Good Lord man! Did you not see the smile at the end of his/her post. Damn, way too many thin skinned individuals in here lately. Give me a break. The answer to your original qustion has been more than answered and not once were you flamed. Then, someone jockingly offers you a pair of glasses and you lose it. It's better that you "forget it" as you stated and not come back. I even attempted to answer your question, without flaming, might I add, as I normally do when someone asks a ignorant question.
I say good riddance if you cant take a simple joke!!!!!!!!!!eek:
Shinare said:
OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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Good Lord man! Did you not see the smile at the end of his/her post. Damn, way too many thin skinned individuals in here lately. Give me a break. The answer to your original qustion has been more than answered and not once were you flamed. Then, someone jockingly offers you a pair of glasses and you lose it. It's better that you "forget it" as you stated and not come back. I even attempted to answer your question, without flaming, might I add, as I normally do when someone asks a ignorant question.
I say good riddance if you cant take a simple joke!!!!!!!!!!
Shinare said:
OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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" Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime." end of story.
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I'm new to the MDA. I just switched jobs and turned in my tricked-out 8125, I was given a squeaky clean MDA with the following specs:
ROM 1.8.10.1 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.20
Ext. Rom 1.8.10.104
Please provide me with a recommendation for a rom and anything that I may need to do to unlock it. Sorry for the noob question, but it's my first day with the MDA and first time ever with T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance
it's first time for everything mate. now start searching for the first time.
If you absolutely have to update it and you have no idea what you're doing, go to t-mobile's web site and download the official 2.26 update. At least then you'll have some defense if it goes sour. In the meantime, there's a ton of information already here, it's not all that hard to find and, not to be smart but no one is going to hold your hand, press the buttons for you and take the blame when you flash the wrong thing and fry your expensive new toy. Personally, I use T-mobile's official 2.26 release because it works quite well and I don't have to worry about voiding the warrantee.
SO if you had your 8125 tricked-out then how do you not know what or how to do this to your MDA Vario?
I mean they're basically the same device except for some minor cosmetics.
If you had the 8125 how you liked it just do the same to the MDA.
Bu11D0z3r said:
I'm new to the MDA. I just switched jobs and turned in my tricked-out 8125, I was given a squeaky clean MDA with the following specs:
ROM 1.8.10.1 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.20
Ext. Rom 1.8.10.104
Please provide me with a recommendation for a rom and anything that I may need to do to unlock it. Sorry for the noob question, but it's my first day with the MDA and first time ever with T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance
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Congrats man I love my mda and T-mobile has been good to me thus far but as for as roms you should do the your homework and use the search. Try a few different ones till you find one that suits you best. Good Luck
I didn't ask for directions on how to plugin the USB cable, so your sarcasm is uncalled for. I was sending out a message to the group looking for advice on lessons learned from upgrading to various ROM's. I was more comfortable upgrading my 8125 because it seemed as though there were ROM's specifically designed for Cingular. If you were offended by my question, don't reply.
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
Bu11D0z3r said:
I didn't ask for directions on how to plugin the USB cable, so your sarcasm is uncalled for. I was sending out a message to the group looking for advice on lessons learned from upgrading to various ROM's. I was more comfortable upgrading my 8125 because it seemed as though there were ROM's specifically designed for Cingular. If you were offended by my question, don't reply.
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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It's not flaming, just imagine how many people come to this forum the first day asking the same question. There's no answer to your question as what was already said.
The 8125 is the same as the MDA, the T-mob ROM mentioned is the basis for most of all modified ROM's in this post and for you the safest.
If you use this, it is the latest, try this one first, instal your stuff, backup with spb or sprite, then read thru the posts and see if there is something you could use or do.
I even went back to the 2.26, the Molski one with 30mb RAM free.
Again do what's suggested go to the T-mob site and download/install th update. The flaming is only to stop you from being the next one on forum with: "Help I bricked my MDA.........."
http://www.t-mobileapps.com/downloadcenter/Software_Detail.cfm?ID=80
Is the one.
Bu11D0z3r said:
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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Well, actually there is one thing more annoying: Someone who is too lazy to do their own research!
Now back to the serious...
Meaningless questions like "What should I put on my phone" can't be answered by anyone here. First you need to ask yourself some basic questions such as:
What are you looking to do with your phone?
What function is most important to you?
How much performance are you willing to give-up to achieve this?
Which is more important to you Battery life or speed?
And the list goes on...
Dude, you just need to think about this and ask yourself not others.
Now if you asked something like" I want to be able to see everything that I have coming up on my calender in the next month on my today screen, which program handles this the best?" you will several helpful answers but first you need to define that feature you are looking for.
Just asking "What is the best Rom" or "Which programs should I install" makes you look lazy, stupid or both.
While we're at it, your Thread Title "T-Mobile MDA Question" is useless. It doesn't give the reader any hint of what the question is. The Thread title really should have the basic question in it like "I'm looking for advice on Calendar Today Plug-ins". This will at least allow those who couldn't care less about Today Plug-ins for the calendar to skip your thread while attracting the attention of those who have extensive experience and knowledge of such plug-ins because they share at least one of your goals with their phone use.
I have a T-mobile MDA, bought new, unlocked. I am using it on another carrier, Suncom.
If I upgrade the rom with this T-mobile rom, will it cause my phone to be locked back to T-mobile, or will it remain unlocked?
I have been looking for an answer to that question, but have not found the answer posted anywhere.
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I have a T-mobile MDA, bought new, unlocked. I am using it on another carrier, Suncom.
If I upgrade the rom with this T-mobile rom, will it cause my phone to be locked back to T-mobile, or will it remain unlocked?
I have been looking for an answer to that question, but have not found the answer posted anywhere.
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Upgrading doesn't relock (either SIM or CID) your device.
In that case, I'll do my first ROM upgrade!
Thanks
i've T-mobile also But one problem..i can't open it.....want security code .......anyone tell me how i got security code??????????????????
The T-mobile rom install was smooth, no problems. Only took about 10 minutes.
Dont think it will but even if it does all you have to do is unlock it again. Not a big deal
I'm sure it's been covered in a thread but I'm not able to find it so would appreciate someone explaining the following......
Is it possible to flash my bog standard M700 with the latest HTC ROM from their website?
I've been given a copy but I couldn't download it because of the Orange IMEI number would not resolve. Presumably there are no issues due to this and it will work just fine?
Lastly, has anyone written a step by step idiot guide to doing this? If not could someone please reply and tell me? I'm not all that techy with ROMs but can am OK with PCs and registry stuff etc.
Many thanks in advance!!
You're right it has been covered ;-), HOWEVER.....
NO you cannt use the HTC version on the Orange M700, it's just for the HTC branded phones. SO now relax and get a cooked version... Either MUN-RUS OR LVSW's are good. I personally have the LVSW version......
Look for it in the Trinity WM6 forum.
In the first post is ALL the software you need, grab all 3 bits of software, apply them in order as listed in the instructions. And thats it, shiney new WM6 M700.... however remeber after you do this to remake all the MMS settings etc etc otherwise Photo Messaging etc etc wont work BUT on Oranges' web site there is a "me Proof" guide to putting it right ;-)
Thats it, go get'em fella
Thanks, Just out of interest, why won't the HTC ROM work, after all it's still an HTC device!
Being lazy... do you have the link to the post please?
So you found this site, BUT cannt within this site find the Trinity Mobile 6 Forum or read the very first 2 posts in there?
Get a grip ;-)
As for the HTC thing... guess it's to stop people taking thier software off them and using it elsewhere, and all the troubles that entails with licsencing etc, ALSO dont forget Orange "Value Add" to the phone (brand the day lights out of it ;-) )
Yes found the link!! Just didn't think it was that obvious so wasn't looking at the top! Dohh!
What's Value Add?
Can anyone point me toward instructions on how to extract or backup my exiting Orange M700 ROM in can the upgrade goes pear shapped?
Still a little confused as to why the HTC ROM will not work. Can someone explain properly please?
It is all explained on the forums if, as deech says you "get a grip"
Do a search.
The reason upgrading will not work is mentioned in this the upgrade forum if you look. If you can't even look for it I'm not sure you'll understand the information though as it would involve thinking.
The way to backup a rom is also mentioned in this forum. In fact if you could be bothered to search you could quite easily find one that's already been made by one of the members of this forum in this forum section. It's even on this first page of this upgrade forum.
I don't quite agree with Deech though. I say you should get off your lazy arse and actually look for the information you want rather than just expecting everyone to point out information that's right in front of your eyes if you just look.
Sorry to flame but it drives me nuts that people can be so lazy and expect everyone else to find the information for them.
Value Add..... all those shiney little things that Orange and Vodafone etc add to the basic software, Like the WAP portal, Today Pages, etc etc, a straight HTC ROM (or Nokia, or Motorloa) ROM is very plain and boring, but often works sooo much better than that provided by the Mobile Company after they have "tinkered" with it, hence Value Added.
I agree though you shouldnt be re-flashing your phone if you cannt work the search button and read and FULLY understand what the hell is happening, and how to make things right IF they go wrong ;-)
If you know ehere something is it take 10 seconds to actually be helpful and tell someone whos asks in a polite manner!!
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
Here's what you do. Download the official HTC ROM and try flashing your phone with it, then you might actually believe us when we tell you that you can't flash your phone with it. The official reason that you can't use it on your phone is because your phone isn't actually an HTC phone, it's an Orange SPV M700. Or so they'll have you believe.
I understand the difference between a half" Whitty and a half" UNC. One's a Whitty and one's a UNC, easy
Read the forums, then ask questions.
Peace,
BS...
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Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
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Hi m8, Looks like you're in need of a little friendly advice, so here goes!
Despite what they're all telling you in this thread, you *CAN* quite easily flash the latest HTC Trinity ROM to your M700... You will first need to unlock your phone OR use the SoftSPL method described in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
Unfortunately, you will need to educate yourself a little to achieve what you desire and this means READ and UNDESTAND the above thread before you attempt anything!
All the ROM's you could ever wish for are available through this site, here :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
To be even more helpful, the HTC ROM you require is here :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/2296300...1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS.exe
(Looking at one of your other help question threads, it looks like you don't know how to download from Rapidshare, you need to go to the bottom of the above linked page and click the "FREE" button, then choose your download site from the page that follows... enter the security key as shown and dah dah.... a download!)
If you need any further help then PM me, rather than filling up this thread any further!
I hope this helps!
Moz.
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For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
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Happy to help, but you ask a question I answered it.
As for showing off about Whit / UNC threads..... dont judge books by thier covers, in real life I am a Marine Engineer serving on some of the largest container ships ever built in a very senior position
Now please please take the time to learn about your phone, read all the fora here, and sort out what it is you want to do. And happy flashing once you pop you cannt stop
LOL. is all I can say. You haven't got a hope in hell.
You CAN'T flash the HTC to an M700 because it's locked to Orange. (Similar to a sim lock... Need that explained? Or can you search now??)
Unlock it and you're laughing. (As Mozzer says)
When I posted last, less than 5 posts below yours asking about backing up the rom was the post containing the last link Mozzer has given you, as I said it was even on the first page of threads, not far to look. A forum search for M700 would have shown it immediately.
Backing up the ROM is much harder than flashing it so would have been out of the question for you.
As for UNC and Whitworth. All I can say is congratulations. You, like pretty much all of us (if not all of us) here, also have knowledge in other fields.
I won't bother trying to make myself look big by quizzing you.
I have to admit I have very little knowledge of these devices and am forever endebted to the members of this forum for the information that is shared here and the work put in by many. The difference between you and me is I don't demand it on a plate.
I can use the search engine and look at Stickies. They're stickied for a reason! That reason is either to warn you of forum regulations OR because they are important.
It's not that hard to look in the Trinity subforum and at the first topic which is a link to the Trinity Wiki. (U know what a wiki is? Or is that not of interest as it's not UNC?)
In the Trinity Upgrading sub forum:
5 posts below this (probably seven when I submit this) is a thread entitled:
Moz's RUU_Trinity_Orange_UK_1.23.61.5_1.38.00.11_GSM_NoI PL_NoSPL.exe
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder what that is..... I admit it's a tad convoluted. But you know you have a trinity which is badged by orange.
Third sticky down is entitled:
SSPL (or flashing any ROM 4 free)
Can't think what that's about. I want to flash my M700 with HTC branded.. Could this help? Naah I'll just save time and get everyone to do it for me.
In the Trinity Mobile 6 forum:
First 2 Stickies.. Wonder what they do. Won't bother looking.
Can anyone tell me how to wipe my arse. I've lost the ability to see and use my hands.
In my last post if you look I gave you some clues as to where you could find what you wanted. I'm on alot of forums and people who can't be arsed to have a look for themselves piss me off. If you'd looked and said I've found this that and the other but I'm not sure about it could someone help explain please I'd have done what I could to explain. But you couldn't even do that!
Many Thanks MOZZER!
At least there is someone here who has taken the time to be helpful.
So Deech... what is the difference i between half inch Whit and UNC?
Hi Mozzerr!
As you were kind enough to help with sensible answers could you please advise on the following:
I feel that the Orange ROM on the M700 seems a bit shaky and the GPS take forever to make a cold start... just a gut feeling it's probably the ROM hence the view to flash it.
In your opinion are there any major advantager to WM6 over the HTC release. I don't use 3G stuff or other advance comms mail etc. just the Phone, Active synce stuff, MP3s, Camera and TomTom via the GPS?
What would you do?
Ah now a sensible question.
WM6 is considerably faster than WM5 when it comes to loading menus and programs (and as far as I've found is completely stable).
There currently appear to be a few people who have a battery drain issue, which I for one have not had and should be ironed out soon.
If you use tomtom there is a cab somewhere (I forget where) in the Windows Mobile 6 forum called ATIfix.cab which fixes the freeze issue (if you get it).
If you're going to go to WM6, which I personally would recommend, you can always flash back to the HTC flash if you don't like it.
TBH other than speed for what you've listed as items you use it'd be more about the look and feel of it, so try both and go with what you're happier with.
I hope that helps.
Just remember you loose all the Orange Branding when you flash, so "IF" you find any of it remotely useful it will disappear, including settings for MMS etc.
The Tom Tom Freeze thing seems pretty common, mine idi it big time, but everything else is nicer, faster and smoother.
WM6 is..... nice and well worth it
There is a cab on the forums with all the MMS setting on this forum. I think I linked relinked it somewhere in the Mobile 6 forum, plus some people have extracted several of the orange programs and posted them.
Hello everyone. As you can probably tell I am new to this forum. I recently bought my first PPC (Tilt) and I am thoroughly happy with my device (thus far). Seeing how I am new to this genre of phones. I decided to surf the internet to see what kind of info was available for my new toy. To make a long story short, after I surfing the internet and visiting many different forums. I noticed the XDA or XDA developers being used frequently. So I decided to do a Google search which directed me here. I must admit I am thoroughly impressed by this forum (website) and plan to be a contributing member. I have learned so much about the capabilities of my phone. You guys are really amazing. Which leads me to my problem? I am having a difficult time understanding the verbiage being used to describe the various different upgrade features being discuss on this board. All That being said I have some question I would like to ask. But first I have decided to condense my questions on one thread as to make it easier for other interested parties as well as for me to find. However feel free to direct my question or to add a link that can answer my question at your convenience as I know many (if not all) these question have been answered in other threads (sorry remember I am unfamiliar with all these new words).
1)Is there some sort of getting started manual that I can used to better understand the various different words being used on this forum?
What does flash, cooking, roms, etc mean?
2) I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
I would like to do this in hopes of increasing performance as well as to have all the programs and features that where meant for the TYTN 2. If one could list the steps or refer me to the link that could do this it would be greatly appreciated.
3)How does a person find out about the various different applications or program that are available for my phone?
This would be of great interest to me. In particularly when it comes to music and radio stations. What is the best music/media player available? What is the best program to listen to various radio stations? And what site can I use to research this stuff?
4) Lastly I am really interested in all this voip stuff (Skyp, Google talk, etc). It would be pretty cool to use the internet to make phone calls instead of paying for daytime minutes. How would one go about doing this? Am I to understand that I can used my phone exactly the same way but through the internet?
I wanted to take the time to thank those who answered my question (and those that didn’t) as well as to developer of this board.
Thank you
Bulldog1
i think if you spend some time looking through these forums you'll be able to extrapolate many of these answers.
i'm not trying to be a jerk but your questions are kind of extensive and mostly answered with a bit of digging.
sorry.
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Hello everyone. As you can probably tell I am new to this forum.
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Welcome to the forum...
Bulldog1 said:
1)Is there some sort of getting started manual that I can used to better understand the various different words being used on this forum?
What does flash, cooking, roms, etc mean?
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No manual - you learn from osmosis.
I am pretty new around here as well... but a long time lurker...
So - to help as much as possible - here is a quick answer to your questions:
Flashing is when you overwrite / rewrite the firmware. It is the method used to put different ROMs on your device.
Cooking is where you create a custom ROM image - so it comes customized with whatever the chef puts on it.
ROM - think of it as an operating system image that is transfered from your computer to your device.
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2) I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
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Go to the Kaiser Upgrading subforum - sticky at the top is the place to start.
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3)How does a person find out about the various different applications or program that are available for my phone?
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Read read read.
Bulldog1 said:
This would be of great interest to me. In particularly when it comes to music and radio stations. What is the best music/media player available? What is the best program to listen to various radio stations? And what site can I use to research this stuff?
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This site is chalk full of information about these kinds of things: Kaiser is pretty new - so hit one of the other forums under XDA. Software sitting on top of the OS should be pretty standard... ;-)
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4) Lastly I am really interested in all this voip stuff (Skyp, Google talk, etc). It would be pretty cool to use the internet to make phone calls instead of paying for daytime minutes. How would one go about doing this? Am I to understand that I can used my phone exactly the same way but through the internet?
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Kinda. But not as well. Data connections are more prone to dropping than voice calls.
It is cheaper to call internationally though... ;-)
So if you have a good connection and you aren't moving... it is a great alternative.
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I wanted to take the time to thank those who answered my question (and those that didn’t) as well as to developer of this board.
Thank you
Bulldog1
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Welcome dude.
-Daniel
yeah, a glossary of terms would be great. as I read more it makes more sense and I find myself searching some of the terms online. be nice to have somewhere with meanings of WWE, SPL etc mean.
Welcome to the board. I would recomend reading all the wiki's that are stuck in each section and also the search button will bring many many threads on all the questions you have asked. Try this one to get you started. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser Good luck
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I'm in the same boat as you. I read through the posts here and found them really helpful, especially the stickied ones about flashing ROMs.
The best way to get rid of the AT&T stuff is to flash your ROM. Flashing your rom to the HTC-rom will wipe the AT&T bundled software and replace it with the set that comes with the TyTn II (although no TomTom).
I've been trying to find answers to some of your questions too (especially where to find good software and media players), so I'm looking forward to replies from the older members.
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yeah, a glossary of terms would be great. as I read more it makes more sense and I find myself searching some of the terms online. be nice to have somewhere with meanings of WWE, SPL etc mean.
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WWE: World Wide English
SPL: System Programming Language (my guess?)
Welcome to the forum, i am also new. As to your question of what is the best media player, it is TCMP, it plays almost everything (even .flv files!) but support has been discontinued because the ppl made it a commercial product...mind you very tech savy ppl are still continuing support for it and adding codecs and stuff.
to download it and some codects, go to this website:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ht...cial-hybrid-media-player-all-codecs-here.html
Hope that helped
Thank you. I can understand that some question may too broad to answer in this thread. I understand that alot of my question are answered in other threads and for this I appologies.
The the reason I ask those question is becuase I do not understand the language being used. I have read (reread) the stinky under the kaiser upgrades tabs but still do not understand what exactly it is saying (or what it is supposed to do).
While I agree most of my other questions can be answered in other threads it would be of great help to me if someone could explain in greater detail to me my question number 2 which I have reprinted below.
I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
I would like to do this in hopes of increasing performance as well as to have all the programs and features that where meant for the TYTN 2. If one could list the steps or refer me to the link that could do this it would be greatly appreciated.
thank u
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I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
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Step 1: Download and use kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip and follow directions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1562805&postcount=1
Step 2: Download HTC rom from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/5781641...dio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html
UnRar and run the executable.
Pat yourself on the back for getting me to type this out instead of reading the other forum yourself. ;-)
Oh - and if anything goes wrong... don't blame me.
You will also need the keyboard fix found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1565226&postcount=1
Later.
-Daniel
dweidman said:
Step 1: Download and use kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip and follow directions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1562805&postcount=1
Step 2: Download HTC rom from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/5781641...dio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html
UnRar and run the executable.
Pat yourself on the back for getting me to type this out instead of reading the other forum yourself. ;-)
Oh - and if anything goes wrong... don't blame me.
You will also need the keyboard fix found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1565226&postcount=1
Later.
-Daniel
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You guys are great, I can see a sprite of sharing and helping in this forum. Again, you guys are the best, especially thanks to Daniel.
I bought a Chinese unlocked version Kaiser in Hong Kong, and I found out that it is not that convenience to me even though I can read Chinese. With Chinese Windows, it runs very slow. I decided to flash the ROM with HTC standard English ROM.
However, because of warranty issue, I need to backup the Chinese OS ROM, and restore it to its original setting if in case I have to take it back to HTC for repairing.
I am totally new to PPC or WM devices (I used to be a Palm lover), I wonder if anyone of you can tell me how to "Backup" and "Restore" the ROM. Detail instructions will be highly appreciated.
Sorry for my stupid questions, but I really don't know how. Whether I get the instructions or not, YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
So my Tilt is practically brand new, & I have used it like three times so far. The only things I've done is order (most) of the accessories that I'll (at least initially) need for it. But as far as how it runs or operates, it's bone stock & brand new.
What should I do to it first?
What r.o.m. / firmware should I run?
What should I remove & what should I add?
Is there any sort of a "first things first" for newbies sticky, thread, etc.?
Would it help if I told you guys what I want it to do & how I want it run?
Or is this generic enough in nature so that's not necessary?
Thanks in advance for all your help, guys.
first thing would be the wiki..
always install Hard SPL
(It's like a condom for your phone!)
Bookmarked.
gladwin said:
first thing would be the wiki..
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Both the Kaiser forum and the Tilt-specific wiki are now bookmarked.
There is a also a newbie guide thread
Link, please.
persiansown said:
There is a also a newbie guide thread
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Link, please.
awdbeast said:
So my Tilt is practically brand new, & I have used it like three times so far.
What r.o.m. / firmware should I run?
Would it help if I told you guys what I want it to do & how I want it run?
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Why do so many first time posters ask what ROM to run? It strikes me as kinda like buying a new GM car, driving it out of the showroom, straight round to the service dept and asking them if the engine is good enough, or should you rip it out and chuck a Ford engine in.
Knowing what you need it to do/ run is helpful as I doubt my needs are the same as your, so any advice I, or anyone else gives, on mods, tweeks etc won't necesarily meet your needs. To give you an idea, my last phone was the HTC Universal, I changed from a WM5 to a WM6 ROM. I lost video call, and the device wasn't as stable, but I had to do that in order to get the device to do one particular thing (pair with my bluetooth carkit using RSAP). If it wasn't for this, I would have left the stock ROM in the thing.
You say you've used it 3 times so far. Personally, I would use it a while longer, see if there is anything you don't like then have a look around the forums to see if there is a fix. Whilst your doing that, have a look around the forums anyway to see if there is anything you like the look of. One of the mods I made to my Kaiser was installing the upgraded camera CAB. I hardly use the camera and this was a kind of 'just for the hell of it' mod. The rest of my Kaiser is stock, same ROM, same Radio as it was supplied with, its fine just the way it was designed. Give it a month of use, list what your not happy with, then see if there is something that will shorten that list.
I totally agree with Steve-C.
This is what you need to do, and in the order that you need to do it:
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the manual
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the wiki
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the forums
Play with your device to get to know it.
After you have completed these steps, you will know the answer to everything you asked... and if not, then post specific questions.
I'm an AT&T user, so I have a tilt, and I am positive this question has been asked before but I've looked but with no luck, if I put the Kaiser released update for 6.1 will it work without bugs? I've been hearing that it wipes your data, if you do so, and that's fine, I just want to check if it works 100% like normal?
And if so, where is a link to the non-leaked update download, I can only find the leaked one, and is there I program I can get that just backs up my contacts to my computer? I don't care about backing anything else up.
Thank you so much.
I recommend you read the wiki and understand what you need to do so that you can flash safely.
first you must install hard spl because you cannot flash anything but the att rom until you do.
Then you can flash the official htc 6.1 rom--links are in the wiki.
Att has not released an official version of 6.1. The leaked and cooked versions are quite good. Once you have read everything you should try some and find one that works for you.
I am today using the official htc 6.1 rom. But I regularly test other cooked roms. I use my phone for business and need stability and dependability. I really like shogunmark's death rom business edition v 4.1. It fits my needs and I ran it for almost a week. We lost a cell tower in a storm earlier this week and I didn't know it so I went radio and rom searching to try to get my great reception back...alas I still have to go either outside or upstairs to use my phone.
Welcome to the forums but remember always look in the wiki and search. We have a great wiki for the kaiser that is continually updated so you can always start there or look for new posts. That is where you can find new current info.
Welcome and safe flashing.
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I'm an AT&T user, so I have a tilt, and I am positive this question has been asked before but I've looked but with no luck, if I put the Kaiser released update for 6.1 will it work without bugs? I've been hearing that it wipes your data, if you do so, and that's fine, I just want to check if it works 100% like normal?
And if so, where is a link to the non-leaked update download, I can only find the leaked one, and is there I program I can get that just backs up my contacts to my computer? I don't care about backing anything else up.
Thank you so much.
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Yea, that was kinda a stupid question to ask (per your thread subject). I think you should buy an iPhone! You deserve it! WOW!
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Yea, that was kinda a stupid question to ask (per your thread subject). I think you should buy an iPhone! You deserve it! WOW!
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I think I was too nice...won't happen again I tell ya!
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Welcome to the forums but remember always look in the wiki and search. We have a great wiki for the kaiser that is continually updated so you can always start there or look for new posts. That is where you can find new current info.
Welcome and safe flashing.
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I think this is constructive answer. It´s not bad to be nice