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Don't get any of your hopes up, CorePlayer will solve nothing for us:
First of all, what they "fix" will only work inside Coreplayer
And second:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.15
page 2, second post, blue one:
"ok... so let me clarify... so its a little of BOTH to be true in that... we _ARE_ using HW overlay with the qtv drivers for the color conversion and bilinear zooming and we are _NOT_ using the builtin mpeg4 hw decoder."
So they only fix the problem which made our kaiser slower (about 3 times slower) than all similar devices when using DirectDraw... you know the issue, we were going around it by using Raw Framebuffer in Tcpmp
What this means: they found a workaround for a bug in the Kaiser, they do not have video drivers, they do not have 3D drivers.
I wish it wasn't so... but it is
And this needs a new thread because?
This has been covered in the driver development thread, and the CorePlayer thread. Yes, we know it's not the mythical new driver set that will bring about world peace and cure famine, but for anyone who wants to watch decent video on their Kaiser it's a solution for now.
Sorry if i'm bloating the forum, but i keep seeing threads on the first page about this, and was hoping to put an end to it all
Thank you for your clarification! This clears up the situation
I was really hoping they would be accessing the hw acceleration of decoding as well :/
Well, I just wanted to ask something very odd.
In my HTC Tytn I (Hermes) using black satin rom,
coreplayer 1.2 plays videos with very slow performqnce whatever
the settings, but when I try benchmarking it plays smoothly and gives
125% using rawbuffer.
I ve reached to a point here i will watch the movies in benchmark mode...
Redundant Thread.
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I downloaded vTap and loaded it onto the latest HTC Official WM 6.1 ROM and it closes when you press the play button to start a movie.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
try soft reset after installing...u might have to take the Vtap icon off ur home screen also since it puts it there automatically after install/reset...
i installed it a week ago, ive reset many times since then and removed the today icon right away. There just isn't enough room on the today screen for all this stuff!
Anyways, it just crashes when the video starts to play (I don't get to see any video, it crashes right away)
petard said:
i installed it a week ago, ive reset many times since then and removed the today icon right away. There just isn't enough room on the today screen for all this stuff!
Anyways, it just crashes when the video starts to play (I don't get to see any video, it crashes right away)
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I know this is specifically for vtap, but you can use other, more reliable, methods to watching youtube or any kind of flash video.
vtap was just too much. Quality wasn't that good either compared to tcpmp.
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I know this is specifically for vtap, but you can use other, more reliable, methods to watching youtube or any kind of flash video.
vtap was just too much. Quality wasn't that good either compared to tcpmp.
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this is true and these others also work great...maybe try removing and re-installin vTap also if u havent already...
http://www.ytpocket.com/index.php
http://www.avotmedia.com/
is there any application that works like vTap? Those 2 links are websites. I like programs more then websites for my Pocket PC because of the screen size and overall speed of programs is just faster then websites.
EDIT: The avot mv thing is an app, but its REALLY choppy and it doesn't preserve the aspect ratio (it stretches the video to fit in the screen), but im guessing the choppiness is thanks to those GREAT drivers from HTC.
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is there any application that works like vTap? Those 2 links are websites. I like programs more then websites for my Pocket PC because of the screen size and overall speed of programs is just faster then websites.
EDIT: The avot mv thing is an app, but its REALLY choppy and it doesn't preserve the aspect ratio (it stretches the video to fit in the screen)
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the avot mv is a program u download to ur device from tht site its similar to Vtap (i like vTap better tho) and the tcpmp player and bundle are also on the other link so u can go directly to youtube and play from there...ur choice...
I have used TCMP w/ flash plugin and i have vTAP on my kiaser right now and it works great... no issues at all. I like its simplicity of use.
When I use Vtap, the quality of the video is really poor.. is it suppose to be like that?
vtap resolution worthless IMO
grandpareza said:
I know this is specifically for vtap, but you can use other, more reliable, methods to watching youtube or any kind of flash video.
vtap was just too much. Quality wasn't that good either compared to tcpmp.
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vtap works, but "wasn't that good" is a vast understatement - I've never seen such pitiful resolution!
DVS_WiNdz said:
When I use Vtap, the quality of the video is really poor.. is it suppose to be like that?
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Hello. I work for Veveo Inc. who provide the vTap service. We have just released a new version of the client which should greatly improve the video quality when playing Youtube, or Metacafe videos.
You can download the latest client by pointing you browser to www.vtap.com and downloading the client.
Here are some details of what is fixed in this release:
http://forum.vtap.com/index.php?topic=4.0
Once you install the client, you will want to enable the DirectPlay option under Tools/Options/Media
Inorder to enable the direct draw option, you will need to install some additional files on your phone. More detals about this can be found in our FAQ #15 - http://forum.vtap.com/index.php?topic=6.0
Please give this a try, and let me know if you see an improvement.
Thanks!
You could also try the new CorePlayer 1.2.1 which has a Youtube viewer in it.
Is there a thread somewhere with instructions on how to install and configure TCPMP with flash bundle? I have tried getting this working on my Tilt with no success.
I'm going to try out CorePlayer in the meantime. Thanks for the suggestion.
Is there any way at all to do a fix for either the youtube client or the X1's display drivers such that it display the Youtube vid correctly?
I am using Wild Child's latest rom and for some strange reason when I play the tube file the first time in landscape mode a white line is in the button of the screen and in the left hand side of the screen, but then I play the same file the second time those stripes are gone?
This happen with every second youtube file
Is it a hardware or software issue??
As far as I can tell this has been there in all of the youtube applications with various drivers, the new manila rom doesnt use r3 drivers...and its still there...
WC
to be honest, i don't consider this a bug at all. so there's a thin white line - so what? what bug's me more is the fact that the videos still have to be fully buffered before playing or you'll have video-lag. (happens via 3g and wlan with every rom i've tried so far, not via activesync)
if i remember correctly this had to something with drivers too, but i didn't follow the corresponding threads lately. any news on that?
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to be honest, i don't consider this a bug at all. so there's a thin white line - so what? what bug's me more is the fact that the videos still have to be fully buffered before playing or you'll have video-lag. (happens via 3g and wlan with every rom i've tried so far, not via activesync)
if i remember correctly this had to something with drivers too, but i didn't follow the corresponding threads lately. any news on that?
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It did not happen with R1A, only with subsequent R2/R3 ROMS and I'm assuming custom ROMs based off of it.
I also really wish someone with the expertise would step up and help us out with this one.
The reason why it is buffered is to somewhat avoid the lag in video, this was dne on purpose...I mean even on your computer when accessing some sites to view video's through say windows media player it will buffer the video... As I stated in my earlier post...I have tried various drivers and that software bug is still there.......
WC
you ever noticed, how video-playback is lagging, but audio is normal while buffering? that's what i meant. hit "pause" and let it load the full video first, everything will be normal.
so no, that's not like on the computer...
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you ever noticed, how video-playback is lagging, but audio is normal while buffering? that's what i meant. hit "pause" and let it load the full video first, everything will be normal.
so no, that's not like on the computer...
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I may be wrong but if you try on an old computer with a 528MHz processor and the same ram size, I think it will be laggy too...
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I may be wrong but if you try on an old computer with a 528MHz processor and the same ram size, I think it will be laggy too...
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depends on what OS this pc has to run... and yes, an old pentium-m underclocked to 600 mhz plays them fine.
anyhow, look above: it didn't happen with the first firmware. it doesn't happen if it's connected via active sync. it obviously doesn't happen on other phones (the iphone has an even slower cpu), etc etc...
but that wasn't the point.
so, no news in that direction.
It´s a driver issue, install this and YouTube will be fine in HQ without full buffering.
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It´s a driver issue, install this and YouTube will be fine in HQ without full buffering.
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I have just try it: black screen when playing video with the youtube app...
Than try this, it´s a little bit difficult because every cooker has different driver combinations, try this if you want.
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Than try this, it´s a little bit difficult because every cooker has different driver combinations, try this if you want.
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Black screen too!
Maybe because I use Agent47's rhodium drivers and Neos2007 OpenVG...
Ah ok, I have no idea why it is not working, as I said, it has sth. to do with the driver combinations the cookers are using, maybe you should try it without the openVG drivers. Just try
Just for the hell of it i added youtube to the r1 rom....this issue of the white line around the bottom of the screen and running up the left side is a software issue....not a driver issue...
WC
Wild Child said:
Just for the hell of it i added youtube to the r1 rom....this issue of the white line around the bottom of the screen and running up the left side is a software issue....not a driver issue...
WC
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I am not a software engineer or a programmer, but to me its like the client is made to talk to a set of display drivers which aren't 100% compatible with the X1s displaydrivers. Thereby causing it not display fullscreen video in youtube client correctly always?
if the youtube client had ben open source would it have possible to take the base code apart and fix the problem?
just for fun i've installed the official cab from youtube - no white stripes, but lagging as well while buffering...
Wild Child said:
Just for the hell of it i added youtube to the r1 rom....this issue of the white line around the bottom of the screen and running up the left side is a software issue....not a driver issue...
WC
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Reverting to the R1A ROM fixes all issues with youtube constantly buffering and not playing back HQ video smoothly, it does not fix the issue with the white line. Sorry for the confusion.
I think the buffering issue and not playing back HQ videos smoothly is a much bigger issue than the white line.
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It´s a driver issue, install this and YouTube will be fine in HQ without full buffering.
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Can you reupload the fixes you had posted? I would like to try and see if they work on my R2A X1a ROM
Sure, please report if it´s working or not, which Youtube version are u using?
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never noticed this before:
lag while buffering obviously depends on the video being played. there's non of it while playing a cartoon (try "southpark"). play anything else - lag until fully buffered. so either the initial drivers had some sort of hw-acceleration (don't believe that) or the newer ones are less efficient and therefore need more cpu-ressources?
the "pc vs.mac" videos are playing almost smooth, only minor hickups there -> white background without details.
@yyyyy:
are these fixes of your's uninstallable? i'm on itje's v10.2 and it's running perfectly, i don't want to risk a hardreset right now...
Looks like something have changed att youtube because it's like the built in youtube application is suddenly struggling to play the high res videos. It's not a buffering issue, I've checked that already. Videos get short pauses now and then, almost like the hardware acceleration is disabled. I doubt I'm the only one experiencing this...
Could you link me to this youtube app, please? I went directly to the youtube site yesterday and streamed a couple of short vids which played ok but with buffering. It played in the stream app on the phone and I couldn't zoom it or do full screen. What does the youtube app do differently? Does it allow better streaming or full screen or something?
I mean the original youtube app thats pre-installed in the Diamond. It uses hardware acceleration to play videos with nice quality and smooth framerate, now it's not that good anymore so I'm guessing something have changed at youtube... It's strange though...
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I mean the original youtube app thats pre-installed in the Diamond. It uses hardware acceleration to play videos with nice quality and smooth framerate, now it's not that good anymore so I'm guessing something have changed at youtube... It's strange though...
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That app doesn't appear to be on my phone, the t-mobile compact 4.
Maybe your operator removed it from your Diamond rom??? You can install it separately, check here for info and the download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472940
Just make sure you install the VGA one... But you probably already knew that of course...
owziee said:
Maybe your operator removed it from your Diamond rom??? You can install it separately, check here for info and the download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472940
Just make sure you install the VGA one... But you probably already knew that of course...
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Yep, I suspect t-mobile did indeed remove it. Thanks for the link!
Your welcome If for some reason the app refuses to play the videos on your Diamond you might need to install the youtube fix aswell...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2657501&postcount=164
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Your welcome If for some reason the app refuses to play the videos on your Diamond you might need to install the youtube fix aswell...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2657501&postcount=164
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Okey dokey, thanks. It's installed now and rebooting. I'll try the fix if it doesn't work. And no, I didn't know I needed the VGA version so thanks for pointing that out.
Ok, I installed the fix because the screen looked a bit messed up and the text is tiny and I can't seem to zoom in. Stil the same with the fix however the video runs very well. But, the capture area is a small square on the left bottom corner in landscape mode. I'll take some pictures of my screen for you.
Ok, here's 2 screenshots. It defaults to playing in landscape but only the small area you can see. Where I type to search, the letters are cut off (see 'CATS AND DOGS') and the text is microscopically small. Any adjustments I can make? Is it possible for the seartch to bring up more than 5 results?
At least it works though, very smooth playback.
That looks very strange... Videos should play fullscreen in landscape...
I suggest you to uninstall that version & the fix and get this version instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481495
It's a newer version of the HTC youtube player, download the second link, the full version: http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/4336552/Youtube_v1.6.1820.4128_FULL.zip
I really hope this will solve your problems and make it work as it should, if not I'm out of ideas since I'm not an expert in this area...
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That looks very strange... Videos should play fullscreen in landscape...
I suggest you to uninstall that version & the fix and get this version instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481495
It's a newer version of the HTC youtube player, download the second link, the full version: http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/4336552/Youtube_v1.6.1820.4128_FULL.zip
I really hope this will solve your problems and make it work as it should, if not I'm out of ideas since I'm not an expert in this area...
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Thanks man, I'll give it a try.
This is odd. I've installed it successfully and it shows up in 'remove programs' but it doesn't show up anywhere else, nowhere to be found in program files, (the other version did), so I can't start the app. This happened when installing to the internal storage, uninstalling it, and reinstalling to the device.
I'll reinstall the earlier version and then do the upgrade version, see if that helps.
Yes that worked! Thanks for the links owziee
I notice that I can scroll up and down the list of videos with the centre button, but it doesn't respond to screen touch with finger, is it meant to be like that? Anyway, not bothered, just wondering. I'm happy now, the quality is great, it's full screen and the text is normal size now.
No thats not normal, I can use my finger to scroll but at least you can watch the videos now. Maybe you'll find a fix for the scrolling issue.
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No thats not normal, I can use my finger to scroll but at least you can watch the videos now. Maybe you'll find a fix for the scrolling issue.
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I suppose it may be that because your Diamond came pre fitted with a youtube app that perhaps it was optimised to work with touch screen? Whereas mine is a t mobile phone which didn't come with youtube on it.
hello there, i just bought an X1 and was trying to find the best mp3 player. the ones i found on the phone were very slow. i have an 8 gb card with 1400 songs on it.
i need a player that doesn't have a delay between changing the songs and also a search function.
i found winamp for WM; i runs smoothly but i couldn't find the jump button.
any ideas ?
there are plenty...pocket player, imulator, s2p, lcg jukebox...
imo, pocket player is better choice, but it is not free
I also recommend Pocket Player by Conduits. Not free but the best player I have seen so far.
thanks man, i found pocket player, it's nice, but it's so slow . i'm having so many problems with this thingy, i can't even find the gps menu in settings
I dont consider Pocket Player slow. Its not lightning fast, ok. But slow?
Concerning gps setting: You will find them under settings\system\external gps
Another vote for Conduits Pocket Player. Not slow at all, slides and performs as expected. I had been a satisfied user for many years and had it running on all of my WM devices with no issues, and we are talking a far less spec-ed ones than Xperia. The best part for me is that it sends music over the bluetooth to a mono headset and with tweaks can be set up as a default media player for Voice Command, which means it gets controlled through bluetooth as well. Can't beat that.
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hello there, i just bought an X1 and was trying to find the best mp3 player. the ones i found on the phone were very slow. i have an 8 gb card with 1400 songs on it.
i need a player that doesn't have a delay between changing the songs and also a search function.
i found winamp for WM; i runs smoothly but i couldn't find the jump button.
any ideas ?
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With Pocket Player you can set up the interval between songs, even fading of one song into another.
mishick said:
thanks man, i found pocket player, it's nice, but it's so slow . i'm having so many problems with this thingy, i can't even find the gps menu in settings
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I wonder if slowness is caused by your card read rates...
yeah, my card is probably slow, but this doesn't change the fact that pocket player has a not so nice search function. after you find the desired track, it replaces the playlist and you have to go back each and every time.
have you tried that winamp version for WM ? if i could find the "jump" button. it really looks like winamp and it's veeeery fast.
ps: i'm using the same micro sd on an n95 and it works like a charm, i'll try and update the x1 to 6.5; if i'm not satisfied with the results, i'll swap it for an n97.
It's a question of configuration. In advanced settings you can choose whether to generally replace the current playlist or to enqueue an opened file. What's more it is important to choose the correct method. If you want to replace the current playlist you choose open\open file but if you'd like to enqueue you have to use open\add file. It's the same in the library. When you press on an album, artist or track in the list a menu pops up and you can choose between play (replaces current playlist) or enqueue. In the library there are settings too. There you can once again choose between different ways the program interprets gestures/ actions. So all in all what you describe is a mere question of configuration and using the correct method
i've given up. i tried saving a playlist and it freezed my phone (twice). i don't care anymore.
now...this is WINDOWS mobile, right? on my p990 i had an emulator for old nintendo games (mortal kombat, street fighter etc); is there such thing?
what other games do you know? i saw a video, someone was playing tony hawk, i'm looking for something similar with good graphics and interesting gameplay, perhaps a football game, pool, bowling...
Perhaps... the problem is with your device.... I can't say I ever had any problems of any kind running Pocket Player, saving playlists, selecting songs, scrolling through lists etc, and I used it on quite a few WM devices so far. Can't even say the performance was ever affected by the ROM or specifications. It runs equally well on 200Mhz devices and 620Mhz devices, with 64Mb RAM and 256Mb. It even runs perfectly well on LG KS20 and that little bugger has many problems. I have it on my Xperia, needless to say.
FYI: I realise that you asked for a new media player, but I thought it was worth mentioning that both the X1s built-in meda players have a highly elegant quick search as you type feature.... just start typing..
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FYI: I realise that you asked for a new media player, but I thought it was worth mentioning that both the X1s built-in meda players have a highly elegant quick search as you type feature.... just start typing..
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if you have more than 1 song that starts with "mar" for example, it will only show you the first one
what's so elegant if it doesn't satisfy my needs? btw, where's the equalizer on these so sweet and neat "media" players? even with the players that have equalizer, the sound sucks in my car/headsets comparing to nokia.
i'm sorry to say this, i love ericsson, but i regret buying xperia.
Look it is clearly visible that you don't now how to use Pocket Player. You say: "This does not work, that is not possible". But everything you mentioned so far is possible with Pocket Player as long as you know how to use it.
Concerning your problem with playlists I cant confirm that the Xperia crashes when saving a playlist. Have you tried saving in another format?
If you don't like Pocket Player there are other solutions. Pocket Music by Pocketmind for example or Mortplayer. Both come with an equaliser but for me Pocket Player is by far the best program available.
AS for games you can get warcraft 2 and starcraft and heaps of other games.
hey, i have the best solution: throw away this crap and buy the goddamn ugly n97,
this morning i was trying to send an sms to a bunch of my friends and, surprise, i can't mark recipients, i have to select them 1 by 1. YEAH XPERIA ALL THE WAAAY
Look I found in 5 minutes by using the search function what you say is not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354164
Search also for the keyword "power sms" as this is another solution. Maybe there is even more software available here at XDA. Generally everything is possible with Windows Mobile because there is software for almost any function you can imagine. So please either start using your brain or stop annoying us with your false statements. I don't care if you believe Xperia X1 is crap and N97 is better but stop claiming things that are just plain wrong only because you are to lazy to look for a solution yourself.
for me nitrogen is the best mp3 player for winmo.
so i have to install a third party software to send a lousy sms? if i wanna send a message to 1 guy, i use it's default app and if i wanna send one to many, the other one. i can't believe this. yes, i'm slothful, that's why i bought a smartphone
oh, btw, sometimes, it doesn't show the number that's callin' me so i have to restart it...
i have nothing against xperia or WM, i'm just being objective here, but imagine if i would have had to pay for all these extra applications? imagine if i didn't know my way around technology. i would want my SMAAARTPHONE to do everything by default; and by everything, i mean the basics.
you guys know better than me that many 3rd party apps are ****ed up and buggy and laggy, and trust me, i had more than 10 symbian phones, i know what i'm talking about. so don't you dare jump on me with "use your brain, false statements". maybe i do have a cheap micro sd, but why does the old n95 work so smooth with it a?
altae, i dare you to show me a video of you using pocket player. i want you to load a playlist with at least a couple of hundred songs, i want you to have there songs that have the same title such as come(ing) undone by placebo, korn and robbie williams. search for "undone", let me see how it shows you all 3 songs and after you select one, the playlist goes on just like "good ol' winamp". if you can do that and i can't, i swear i'll hit myself as hard as i can with the x1 in the head, in my nuts or wherever you want me to.