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I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.
1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had
gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time
achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.
Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.
I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
Bxsteez said:
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
Amplificator said:
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.
I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.
I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone
As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.
basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)
I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!
You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.
Hi!
I am new to this forum but not new to HTC phones.
I just got a new HTC TD2 from ATT as the ATT Pure.
Great phone! and as of this Morning the MS Application store is working great.
questions I am sure many of us will have so might need a sticky
1. Bloatware - how do you get ride all the silly ATT apps/stuff?
2. if I load a new ROM from this sight will it be equal to or better then the RTM of 6.5? basically I don't want to loose the underlying features I just want generic + Radios + store (3G/4G)
3. if I load a ROM from here can I every go back to the factory ROM?
4. How do I: App-unlock, Phone-Unlock (if any) (not SIM unlock)?
5. Donation link - were is that!?
thanks in advance!
aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
flyboy009 said:
aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
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Thanks FlyBoy,
So you have a Pure did you reload it?
Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
flyboy009 said:
Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
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Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
aethicus said:
Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
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Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
flyboy009 said:
Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
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GTK! when you flashwith another ROM can you still go back to the factory ROM using a master reset? One would thing you are replacing the ROM in Flash and not the actual "ROM"
When you flash a rom you can't go back to stock unless you have the stock rom on a cd from your profider, read de faq's dude
Unless you know how to dump and recompile your stock rom you can't reflash it unless someone on here shares the pure rom which I think they have. Check out the ROM develpment section for Topaz.
I think you will flashing soon because Manila 2.5 kicks ass and the pure don't got it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567663
Excuse my ignorance here, but what is Manila?
Manila is Touchflo 3D. The HTC UI that sits on top of winmo
Question:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
ottoman96 said:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
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ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
rifter said:
ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
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Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
ottoman96 said:
Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
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You are correct
The Pure and Diamond 2 / Topaz are the same thing. Different casing and slightly different chipset, but otherwise the same phone.
Playing With Pure
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
BereanPK said:
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
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im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
ZILLA said:
im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
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That was my first guess too. Check and see if push internet is off. I don't remember how to get there since I'm using 6.5.1 and Leo Manila but it should be easy.
OK... tried this, and WOW! The wonders of what you discover about your new device when you ask! (after searching, of course)....
I skimmed over the "Push Internet" feature in Manila settings somewhere, but didn't give it much of a thought, since at the time I didn't know what it was - hey, my Tilt didn't have Push-Internet. But seeing how freaking SLOW everything, including SPB Mobile Shell (which I somehow prefer over Manila - I know, it's sacrilege!) was running, I took the advice here about Push Internet, searched on how to disable it, found this link to an article on PocketNow.com which links to a file created by one of XDA-Developers' own, and voila! Instant gratification... and an over 10MB Program memory availability jump.
Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction! Cheers!
-BereanPK
To all the Blackstone chefs. I am offering a donation of $30 thru PayPal for a very simplistic, custom clean WWE ROM. If more chefs are willing to build this I would donate the second two that I like best consolatory prize of $5 for encouragement of their efforts.
Normally I wouldn’t bother other people with this kind of task, but my own efforts at using the kitchen in all of its incarnations have failed miserably.
I suspect that quite a few Blackstone owners would appreciate this kind of ROM.
This is what I want:
Requirements updated 16.02.2010
- Continuous work to resolve major ROM issues and bugs if found
- Windows Mobile 6.5.x ROM with the new interface – the large Start and OK/Close buttons on the bottom. It should use a black flat skin for the bottom and top bar, like this one:
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af189/sleepyxda/Vintagescreentest.jpg
- It should use 1 row Start menu, like this one:
http://www.modaco.com/content/uploads/monthly_12_2009/post-497070-1261313195_thumb.jpg
- No Manilla/Sense or Titanium
- No Comm Manager (can be installed if needed)
- No FM Radio (can be installed if needed)
- No Games (can be installed if needed)
- No Internet Explorer (if possible) and no Browser of any kind
- No Microsoft Office (can be installed if needed)
- No PDF Reader of any kind
- No Calculator (can be installed if needed)
- No HTC Album (can be installed if needed)
- Default Windows Mobile Pictures and Videos should be present (I’m not entirely sure about this one)
- Camera App should be present (I’m not entirely sure about this one, is there an option to install later? are there alternative camera apps for Blackstone?)
- Internet Sharing should be present
- No PIM Backup (can be installed if needed)
- No Task Manager (can be installed if needed)
- No Quick GPS (can be installed if needed)
- No Phone Canvas (can be installed if needed)
- The Default Windows keyboard, no touch keyboard (can be installed if needed)
- 20 MB Pagepool
- USB to PC should be present, but no popup at startup (it is just too usefull to omit)
- Should have .NET Framework 3.5
- The ROM should be UC capable
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The Result:
The 9600xt's ROM:
http://www.mediafire.com/?myyh5mmynnz
Buy him Beer:
Version: 5.2.28230 (Build 28230.5.3.3)
Free Storage Memory: 361.84 MB
Free Program Memory: 128.52 MB
Pagepool: ?
Notes:
- Uses Wireles Manager to Enable/Disable Phone, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi
- Very Responsive
- 3 Row Start Menu
- Good battery life
Major Bugs:
- No "Power" Icon in "Settings/System"
- Power control panel (acessed thru top bar icon) is buggy, no text, not all settings tabs are present
- No "Input" properties in "Setting\Personal"
- No "USB to PC", there is an error message on conecting the USB cable that USB to PC Popup is missing
Minor Bugs:
- Remove non functional "Messenger" Start menu (can be done by hand)
- Remove empty "Games" Folder from Start menu (can be done by hand)
- Remove "Voice Command" app (not sure about this one, let me know what you think)
Couldn't test (yet):
- Internet Sharing
- Domain Enroll
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The Semicuda's ROM - cudaROM LT:
v 1.40:
http://hotfile.com/dl/29241854/2a6acc5/CudaROM_LT_1.40-23534-WWE-20100219.7z.html
v 1.31:
http://hotfile.com/dl/29202600/1aebe9a/CudaROM_LT_1.31-28230-WWE-20100219.7z.html
v 1.20:
http://hotfile.com/dl/29110972/2ea0823/CudaROM_LT_1.20-28230-WWE-20100218.7z.html
v 1.10:
http://hotfile.com/dl/28939600/baa7694/CudaROM_lt_1.10-28227-WWE-20100217.7z.html
Buy him Beer:
Will post my findings testing the ROMs little bit later.
I would appreciate any and all comments.
I have cooked a ROM that came near to what you want.... but it's in German.
ht*p://w*w.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=5662
I think you need one in WWE.
I try to cook one for you...
Mark...
Yes, should be WWE and thank you.
Energy Android
Have you tried this? It has Harem installed which can be nicely ignored, but i believe it's desolate otherwise.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625330
Yes I have tried that ROM and there were some issues, I don't recall at the mment what it was. I will try it again and see.
So I checked again the recomended *Energy Android Super Lite ROM* and it just doesn't work for me for few reasons.
- It doesn't have the Start, Close/OK buttons on the bottombar.
- Atleast I couldn't disable the DualBoot app
- When changing the Start menu skin to make it 1-row, the Start menu stopped working, and the skin was OK in other ROMs
And here is some addition to my requerements for the ROM, that I just forgot to list before:
- The Default Windows keyboard, no touch keyboard (can be installed if needed)
- 20 MB Pagepool
- USB to PC should be present (it is just too usefull to omit)
- Should have .NET Framework 3.5
- The ROM should be UC capable
I'd be interested in this too, I'll keep an eye on this thread.
here is your rom:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z3mhjvnjgtj
let me know if you like it, and if you want something different, i will be your personal cooker
Well...Great! One thing though. After flash it wouldn't start and won't even allow me to Hard Reset. Thankfully I can still enter BootLoader.
Thanks for your work anyway.
base on your fist post, I think its best for you to buy a phone something
that does not resemble a windows based PPC.
i seriously think you'll attract more bogus people pretending to be a cook
rather than attract the attention of Real Cooks here in XDA.
I want a Clear ROM also
I know few ROM`s that are super cool i mean fast,stable and everything is fine the things i don`t like is ONLY that they have installed APPS that i don`t use and i never will use, so if someone can Edit this ROM`s i mean just to delate all APPs that i don`t need will save from the Main Memory and will be just perfect.
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base on your fist post, I think its best for you to buy a phone something
that does not resemble a windows based PPC.
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Let me guess - to you Windows based PPC meens Manilla, Internet Explore and Solitaire?
I would like to have options, a choise, and benefit from the rich treasury of Windows Mobile software. I would like to choose SPB Mobile Shell, PointUI, Androkkid, iFonz, Gsmart, rlToday, phoneAlarm, FreeStylWM, FEWidgets and countless other Today screen launchers, clocks and plugins.
I would like to choose a Comm Manager (there are different ones), use the Wireless Manager, or use the functions of a third party apps, PhonEx for instance.
I would like to choose which version of Internet Explorer to install or Opera 9.5, Opera 9.7 Beta, Opera 10 Beta, Opera Mini, Fennec, SkyFire, Iris Browser, UC Browser, Dorothy Browser (WebKit), Web Viewer, Maximus Web Browser, dedicated Facebook (or whatever) app or simply go radical and use only a RSS reader.
I would Like to choose if I want Ms Office 2007 or 2010, SoftMaker Office, pTab or just a notepad app.
I would like to choose Adobe Reader LE or Foxit Reader, Haali Reader, AlReader, PocketXpdf, PocketDjVu, CHMReader.NET or MobiPocket Reader.
I would Like to choose PocketCM Image Viewer, HTC Album, Resco Photo Viewer, XnView Pocket, S2V, Photoshop.com Mobile, NoniView or Image Explorer LE.
I would like to choose Total Commander, Voyager, Resco Explorer, Throttle Explorer or WinXplore.
I would like to choose Core Player, TCPMP, Pocket DivX Player, Kinoma Free Play, PocketMVP, Real Player, Mobile Media Center, PocketTV Classic, Nitrogen Player, GSPlayer, S2P, PocketMusic, MortPlayer, FingaThing, Pomod, WinVibe, YouTube app, MyPlayer, iPlayer.
I would like to choose scientific or simple or accountant calculator.
I would Like to choose my phone suite - Phone Canvas, PhonEx, Photo Contacts, Finger Friendly Friends, Contact Manager, Sunnysoft Contacts, Inesoft Phone, Yota Phone, Nektra Contact Manager, iContact+iDialer, Avatar, PocketCM, TouchCaller, QDz, SSContact, PhoneContacts, Minimal Dialer, o3touch, Aezy Contact or Full Screen Dialer.
I would like to choose my keyboard - SPB Keyboard, Resco Keyboard, Micron, VGA Keyboard, EzInput, PocketCM Keyboard, TouchPal, Smart Key Board, TapTap, Touch Keyboard, PDA keyboard, softKEY, FleXslide, etc.
See my point? I dont Want a HTC Phone or Windows Phone I DO Want a Pocket PC.
But hey, you can still disable Sense/Manila from the today and put the hell you want in your HD.
I don't get it, you just want to get rid all that things for what? To go to the Memory Settings and see that you have a looooot of free memory?!? For what?
It's like having a 8GBram with a 1TB disk computer and never use 100% it's of the capabilities...
onesolo said:
To go to the Memory Settings and see that you have a looooot of free memory?!? For what?
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Maybe I would like o make a Dedicated DOSBox PDA out of my Blackstone?
No seriosly - it's not about that. Why have Manilla and all other kinds of software in the first place if you will use something else anyway? Now I don't get that. It's about a clean slate (Now that's a name for a ROM - Tabula Rasa).
insaint said:
Well...Great! One thing though. After flash it wouldn't start and won't even allow me to Hard Reset. Thankfully I can still enter BootLoader.
Thanks for your work anyway.
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i'm sorry, maybe there will be something wrog when i translated my italian rom to wwe, if you look in my signature you can see that i'm not a bogus cooker.... i will correct the rom and post a working ono soon... i'm very sorry for this problem....
I've used Miri_WM65_21889_V35.0_Premium_noManila for a while and it is really good!
9600xt said:
i'm sorry, maybe there will be something wrog when i translated my italian rom to wwe, if you look in my signature you can see that i'm not a bogus cooker.... i will correct the rom and post a working ono soon... i'm very sorry for this problem....
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Don't worry about it! Take your time. I didn't expect to be perfect from start.
insaint said:
Don't worry about it! Take your time. I didn't expect to be perfect from start.
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i'm uploading it, this time i tested it on my blackstone and it works as it should be
will be up in few minutes
jigners said:
base on your fist post, i think its best for you to buy a phone something
that does not resemble a windows based ppc.
I seriously think you'll attract more bogus people pretending to be a cook
rather than attract the attention of real cooks here in xda.
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:d :d :d :d :d :d
ok, this one is tested to work on my blackstone... so....
try it and let me know!!!
http://www.mediafire.com/?myyh5mmynnz
Hello everyone,
OK, here is my first go at ROM cooking.
I was looking for a very basic ROM with only must-have applications inside, so that I can later install the software I *do* use. Eventually I gave up, as all the ROMs and even the Lite'est ones had too much features / utilities. I thought I would then take the latest official ROM available (for stability purpose) and trim it down to minimum elements (for size reduction).
Herewith is what I ended up with:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3829100....25.91_Signed_Ship_trimmed_by_aziraphale_.rar
This in no way can be called a "cooked" ROM, I still know nothing about cooking, but it is a heavily trimmed stock ROM, created by the use of RhodiumKitchen_0.1, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519.
Thanks Dave for this Tutorial and all the credits go to respective tools' developers.
How to install:
- unrar
- connect with ActiveSync (or loader in USB mode)
(goes without saying Your device must be Hard-SPL'd or modified any other way to allow ROM flashing - search the forum)
- execute RomUpdateUtility.exe
There are some residual unnecessary and/or invalid shortcuts in the Start Menu,
as well as some empty folders, I manually removed them by the use of EveryWAN personal edition - it's free and it's easy to use.
The OS is 6.5 b21887
I have trimmed the following from the stock ROM:
HTC applications:
- appointment editor
- clear storage (can do Hard reset in normal way)
- facebook / engine
- format SD (can't a PC do that?)
- CoPilot + install path folder (I use TomTom)
- birthday
- bookmark
- messaging client (hate it)
- jblend
- jetcet
- manila all
- opera (when You install newer version You end up with 2 )
- sliding sounds
- social networks engine
- streaming media
- tv out
- youtube
- volume control
- google maps (same as with opera)
- setting improvement
- text selection
- wifi wizard
- browser snapshot
- ie6 enhancement
- world card mobile (BCR)
- rss hub
System:
- live search
- wm widgets
- win live
- welcome center
- transcriber
- skymarket
- one note
- remote desktop
- themes except Rock and Republic
- my phone (skybox)
- livesearch
I do not expect this to become very useful to most of the forum visitors/members, but perhaps there is someone out there who have not found his/her way around to make ROMs him(her)self yet, but would like to get the very basic ROM with no extras.
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
mccune said:
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
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You said it yourself - the "must-have" are the ones that can not be added by .cabs and will compromise phone functionality (like the HTC dialer skin will enable video calls, thus must stay)
mccune said:
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
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the "2.07.401.1" implies 6.5, but added to description anyway, thanks
Good effort dude I did much the same a month or so ago with an amalgamation of Ervius Visual Kitchen (so easy) and JoshKoss kitchen. Didn't go as savage on the removal of stuff though, main objective was to get rid of the HTC Messaging
Just tried May 1st 23xxx EnergyROM with MaxManila but it cuts off MP3 playback in standby (a big no-no for me) and hung once already while texting MaxManila is nice though, and the Facebook tab is good. I usually stick to 21xxx but I must say 23xxx is growing on me with the latest build. Gonna try Cell Pro next.
I like the latest stuff but keeping up with it all is a nightmare if you're cooking. Wouldn't mind the latest 2.5 Manila packages and latest 21xxx / 23xxx SYS, also would try cooking in MaxManila, and I never managed to cook in "mark all as read" for emails properly. Need to learn how to hack on Manila. Also I forgot to cook in a task manager haha Ameba is quite nice on the latest EnergyROM. I definitely get the "why cook it in if you can get it from Marketplace / OMarket and auto update it" though, totally with you on that one instead of flashing a new ROM every week. I usually flash a new one every month or so, once I find one I like. But for the last month or so I've been running my own. It wasn't the fastest ROM ever though
It's a lot of work to make a decent ROM, and it's finding the time innit. I'm a big fan of JoshKoss but he hasn't released anything in a while
Anyway good effort dude the more the merrier I say
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
MadBeef said:
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" (read: respect, not sarcasm) cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras. I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either. Hence was this ROM done and I am so far rather happy with it.
There is no sign of HTC messaging which I can find, and I can install and use only necessary (for me) bits of software.
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
Aziraphale_l said:
Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras.
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Yeah me too, those guys have spent probably 100's if not 1000's of hours on learning this stuff, then putting it together in a manner that pleases a lot of different people. Major kudos. I sometimes get the feeling though particularly with chefs who release almost every day, for a number of different devices, that the care and testing leaves something to be desired. Quite often more does not = better as you know
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I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either.
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Yeah fair enough mate although I am a big fan of Manila 2.5 and MaxManila is quite nice
Aziraphale_l said:
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
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Yeah I tried converting that to an EXT and cooking it in but it didn't work I know it can be done though cos a lot of ROMs have it built in. To be honest I don't really have enough time anymore to dedicate to my own ROM so I'm trying out a few others.
Aziraphale_l said:
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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It's weird ... Mine's never hung while running but I've had the SOD two or three times. More research required, until then just stick the pen up it's arse haha
Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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i'd love to, but....
as i said i am no cook and i only did it for myself and cared enough to share with anyone who'd love to have it "as is".
also, see the respective later-release ROM threads to see how many bugs are there still and ROM-cooking gurus are eliminating them one by one and it's a long and painstaking process. i have neither time, nor ability to do that.
so i guess this is as much as i can do so far.
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
jamespaulritter said:
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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very good!
Well I think I have ran the gamet of tezts and this ROM is perfect. It is fast and stable trimmed down well but still offering everything a user needs. I am on AT&T in the states and it works perfect. The only thing I cant figure out is how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board? And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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...how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board?
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that would be by manually editing registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"ApVibrationOn"=dword:00000000
it is 1 by default, change it to 0 and you are all set
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And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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this here i am not sure what you mean?
whatever you add (install) SHOULD function properly, if it would have on a stock ROM,
as i have not made any changes to remaining ROM bits
edit: if you open Albums and select any picture You want, it will open in full screen, tap it, and 4 icon menu comes up, 3rd from the left with 2 arrows > tap this one and there is an option *mail*.
select the account (i would use email) and voila! is that what you were looking for?
Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
Maybe this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624375
With these settings from the same thread.
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port:80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: Media Net
Send Limit: 300k
Wap Version: 2.0
I'll try to send an MMS tomorrow.
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Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
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HTC messaging, which I understand handles MMS functionality in our devices, has evolved into... well, something I did not like any more, so it had to go.
I personally don't use MMS, so it is no big deal for me.
Your ArcSoft link below - I see no reason why it will not work, give it a try? You can then share Your findings with the rest of us.
P.S. Battery life on this ROM is the best I have ever seen!
I have tried a dozen ROMs and I usually stick with them for a month or so I guess. They are either lite with bugs or heavy with eye candy and bugs. So far I haven't had a single issue with yours. I think many developers get in to much of a hurry. I appreciate the great job you did on this.
I notice today that to get from one task to another, one program to another or one event to another I use fewer steps because everything is simple and functional. Thanks again.
I cooked in Arcsoft_MMS_5_2_8_45 on mine, after pulling out HTC Messaging, if I remember rightly it worked but it's very rare I use MMS anyway. If you install it afterwards, re-run carrier provisioning (or whatever it's called ... where it sets up your network settings automatically) and it should configure Arcsoft for ya.
Right now I'm running EnergyROM 23xxx from 1st of May but battery is suffering and it crashes a bit, not mega fast either. It is a nice flashy ROM tho I used to hate 23xxx and much prefer 21xxx but lately I'm kinda undecided.
Thanks for the haptic feedback registry edit; works great.
Also with regard to cooking in SafeInboxExtender look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677105
I have decided to retire this ROM, it has served it's purpose and it is time to move on.
I'm very new at this, so don't expect anything flashy, I'm going for stability.
I'm working on a T-Mobile stable stock 6.5 foundation ROM.
The idea is to start with the stock 6.5 release and remove any apps that can be updated from the Internet. That way you always have a stable ROM with most of the standard features found in the T-Mobile 6.5 release and you get to pick and choose what structures you want to build on top of your foundation.
Due to multiple removal requests, I'm no longer hosting this ROM, however, other people are providing mirrors.
MD5 hash: b1448986dec4abf841909b4017bcb1e9
Recommended install
Hard SPL (follow instructions)
Task 29 (follow instructions)
To save time, install the T-Mobile 6.5 release, it will put the radio on and reset the splashscreen (if you like the TMo splash, some do)
Install the Foundation ROM
Changelog
v0.5 - First release
v0.51 - Minor bugfixes
v0.6 - Fixed some menu items, updated XDA_UC
v0.7 - 1% battery driver. Added some changes to XDA_UC.
v1.0RC - Fixed minor issues with XDA_UC. Registry. ROM appears stable.
v1.0 - Released - Stable
Flash at your own risk. This ROM is pre-configured for T-Mobile US phones only. Other phones may not work, and Verizon/Sprint phones absolutely will not work and you will brick your phone..
ROM has the following removed:
Google Maps
Handango
MyPhone
Bing
Facebook
MyFaves
Visual Voicemail
Sample Music
OZ IM
Windows Live
Windows Live IM
WM Live Search Widget
WM Money Search Widget
WM Weather Search Widget
Jetcet (I never use it, but if people want it back in I'll keep it in)
Updated:
.NET CF to 3.5
Sense 2.1 - Compressed CFC
Turned off Push Internet to save memory, can be turned back on easily.
Added:
XDA_UC - I don't use it (yet), but I'm guessing some people might find it useful.
Things I left in and why:
Office 2007 - So you can upgrade to office 2010 via the marketplace.
Opera 9.5 - It's a solid browser, it works well and you can always add Mobile 5 later.
Youtube - This version seems to work well on the TP2, I'm not going to break a working app, again, can be updated to Google's latest version.
Sense 2.1 - The ROM came with this version and it performs well. I CFC'd it to improve memory, I did not notice much of a difference, but it can't hurt.
Structures
A Structure is a simple app or script to build on top of the Foundation ROM. Examples of structures would be an script to re-order the menu, or something to update a core component. They are completely optional and should be easy to customize.
I've attached a simple script to organize the start menu a little better. Rename it to menus.mscr and run it on the phone. Like I said, it's very simple, feel free to open it in notepad and make changes to your liking.
The second script is nobackup.mscr, it will remove the T-Mobile backup app from the startup and menus.
Much Success
May you be very successful in this. I just got into flashing a couple of days ago and its the coolest thing. I have the HD2 my wife likes what I am doing a wants to have some fun as well which is why I am in this section. I will check to see what progress your able to make.
I would have liked to have Telenav cooked in because I can never get it to work on custom ROMs so I have just settled for TomTom... But you may also want to remove the IM apps because a lot of people including myself just use Palringo (much like ebuddy if you are familiar with it)... Good luck with this, I was sad to see the Timor series discontinued as I am a T-Mobile USA customer too, but maybe this can be better.
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I would have liked to have Telenav cooked in because I can never get it to work on custom ROMs so I have just settled for TomTom... But you may also want to remove the IM apps because a lot of people including myself just use Palringo (much like ebuddy if you are familiar with it)... Good luck with this, I was sad to see the Timor series discontinued as I am a T-Mobile USA customer too, but maybe this can be better.
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I didn't think Telenav would be an issue, I'll put it back in. Hopefully I'll have something to show soon.
Version 0.5 is up. Let me know if you like it.
The usual warnings apply to anyone flashing, flash at your own risk, this is a beta release.
I fixed some problems and put up version 0.51.
Future releases
Future releases:
Does anyone want any of the following removed?
Jblend
T-Mobile Mobile Backup
T-Mobile email setup wizard
Youtube (can always download from Google)
Office 2007
MS Voice command
Does anyone want the following added?
New icons (Cook some in, or let you make your own set)
better folder layout (Again, do I do this in ROM, or would you rather do it yourself)
sense 2.5 (might be too tough)
Are there any additional apps that should be in the ROM.
Joe USer said:
Future releases:
Does anyone want any of the following removed?
Jblend
T-Mobile Mobile Backup
T-Mobile email setup wizard
Youtube (can always download from Google)
Office 2007
MS Voice command
Does anyone want the following added?
New icons (Cook some in, or let you make your own set)
better folder layout (Again, do I do this in ROM, or would you rather do it yourself)
sense 2.5 (might be too tough, I'll get back to
Are there any additional apps that should be in the ROM.
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I think you should keep it simple and try not to add custom gfx/icons. Leave that up to other chefs like Sergio and NRG.
I also think you should leave in youtube, MS Voice Command and the email setup wizard. Can you toss in the latest version of Office and Palringo?
You should also stick to Sense 2.1 for obvious reasons. (RAM, stability)
Joe USer said:
Future releases:
Does anyone want any of the following removed?
Jblend
T-Mobile Mobile Backup
T-Mobile email setup wizard
Youtube (can always download from Google)
Office 2007
MS Voice command
Does anyone want the following added?
New icons (Cook some in, or let you make your own set)
better folder layout (Again, do I do this in ROM, or would you rather do it yourself)
sense 2.5 (might be too tough)
Are there any additional apps that should be in the ROM.
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As this is your rom most of this should be up to you and what you think is best, but to keep most happy, I would say keep HTC Youtube because the Google version is not as good as HTC's app, and HTC Youtube is very tricky to get to work via CAB. Everything else you mentioned I would remove. I can only give my advice as to what I think you are trying to accomplish here, a stable and clean rom for T-Mobile users. So I'd stay away from Sense 2.5, because then you would probably have to change the WM build for stability reasons... And in that case you may be better off starting with the stock rom that comes with Sense 2.5 (which would make this no different from the popular Energy or DeepShining roms). So, to stay away from that I would leave the Sense and WM builds alone.
Other than that, I'd stay away from freeware apps that can easily be added via CAB. If you intend to include UC in the future it will be easy to get our favorite apps installed. But some are best off cooked in, like Youtube and Telenav... But one of my pet peeves is chefs throwing in Total Commander, and I am a Resco Explorer user. Total Commander can easily be installed wit a CAB, no problem. These apps I feel should be left out of custom roms. And I would also leave icons as is... Too much time wasted on something we can and usually will customize ourselves, more focus should be put on speed, stability, battery life, etc...
I will try this out soon.
EDIT: OK here is some feedback after a few minutes of use...
-You have an empty Instant Messaging start menu folder
-T-Mobile's e-mail setup app is redundant because there is an HTC app which does the same thing
-Very fluid, responsive, and fast
-Start menu needs some cleaning up
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm working on the next release which will fix a couple of minor issues, fix the menu up and I'm thinking about Office Mobile 2010.
I'm avoiding adding Palringo for now, it's easily installed.
Overall, I'm happy with the ROM so far, it boots up to about 50% free memory, it's fast and the battery life is excellent.
I'm always open to any suggestions, comments or other ideas, so keep them coming.
v.06 released
I have released version .06 which fixes some issues with XDA_UC and creates some submenus to hold the extra tools and internet components.
Please send feedback.
Also, I will start writing a few minor structures to build on this foundation in the upcoming days.
Downloading now...
I've uploaded a simple script (see third post) that will improve the menus for anyone who likes a more organized layout.
I'm also going to write one to disable the T-Mobile backup service.
A few things to consider for future releases:
- Add 1% battery driver and 1% compatible taskbar (stock with battery % above the icon)
- Additional tabs
- 4 rows start menu
- Action Screen
Other than that, this rom seems pretty close to final IMO... Maybe update Office to 2010 or remove it, I'd also remove Mobile Backup. Really loving this rom so far, my only complaint is the problem with starting up where you get the select time zone screen. It happened to me on the stock rom too, but I was hoping for some kind of fix.
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A few things to consider for future releases:
- Add 1% battery driver and 1% compatible taskbar (stock with battery % above the icon)
- Additional tabs
- 4 rows start menu
- Action Screen
Other than that, this rom seems pretty close to final IMO... Maybe update Office to 2010 or remove it, I'd also remove Mobile Backup. Really loving this rom so far, my only complaint is the problem with starting up where you get the select time zone screen. It happened to me on the stock rom too, but I was hoping for some kind of fix.
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I'm looking into all of them, including office 2010. Mobile Backup is easy to remove, I've uploaded a mini script for that. See post 3.
As for the timezone, you shouldn't be getting it. I have not seen it myself since I did a task29 clean, you might want to look into that.
Yes I did so too... But I have been getting it on and off. I got the same thing happening with the stock rom.
Joe USer said:
I'm looking into all of them, including office 2010.
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You might want to remove Office 2007. Office 2010 is now a free download to any device that has WM6.5 installed. In keeping with your stated theme that anything that has an upgrade is removed that should qualify. I will be trying your new ROM soon.
I would love to see a T-Mobile ROM with manila 2.5
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You might want to remove Office 2007. Office 2010 is now a free download to any device that has WM6.5 installed. In keeping with your stated theme that anything that has an upgrade is removed that should qualify. I will be trying your new ROM soon.
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Unfortunately, it's not a free download unless you have Office 2007 installed. Attempting to install on a ROM without 2007 will fail.
Another solution is to use a copy of Office 2010 found here, but I'm reluctant to do so. I would rather keep the ability to download updates from Microsoft.