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Using VoIP with Kaiser

Dear all,
After installing SipConfigTool.cab and WM6VoIP.cab on my HTC P4550, I finally made it work in front of a SIP server and managed to talk with another phone.
Nevetheless, the audio is rendered by the rear speakerphone (the one normally used for handsfree rendering) and not by the front one (the one used for regular phone usages, on top of the screen). Of course, I checked that I wasn't in handsfree mode, what makes me suspecting a wrong routing of the audio flow in the WM6VoIP client, that's to say the Ms standard one.
Does any of you had the same experience?
Please don't tell me to turn the P4550 to the other side to use VoIP
Thanks and regards
PP

PouetPouet said:
Dear all,
After installing SipConfigTool.cab and WM6VoIP.cab on my HTC P4550, I finally made it work in front of a SIP server and managed to talk with another phone.
Nevetheless, the audio is rendered by the rear speakerphone (the one normally used for handsfree rendering) and not by the front one (the one used for regular phone usages, on top of the screen). Of course, I checked that I wasn't in handsfree mode, what makes me suspecting a wrong routing of the audio flow in the WM6VoIP client, that's to say the Ms standard one.
Does any of you had the same experience?
Please don't tell me to turn the P4550 to the other side to use VoIP
Thanks and regards
PP
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This is a known issue/limitation of WM. No programs can re-route audio to the "usual" earpiece speaker. It can only go out thru:
1. rear speaker (as you found out)
2. a wired headset
3. a bluetooth headset if using A2DP profile (like for music-listeing for sterao BT headphones)
4. a bluetooth headset if using a small program called BTAudio or BTToggle, which reroutes the rear speaker sound of a program to almost any BT headset.
This has been most commonly noticed by Skype users - who have the same problem using Skype for WM.
The "fix", or better yet "workaround" would be the same for you as it would be for Skype users. Search this forum for Skype, and you will find your answer and links to do option #4 above, which is generally regarded as the best workaround, besides #2.
The issue with #1 is it causes a bad echo to the person you called.

Actually, I was able to quickly find the right post for the workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1548652&postcount=26
read that for how to do #4. Read the whole thread for other background info.

The weird thing is: i installed Dutty_s_Tilt_TouchFlo_Rom_beta.zip which i downloaded 28-nov-2007. This ROM worked perfectly with VOIP through the front speaker. Because i did not really like this ROM (no offence) i now reinstalled my old ROM. Which is the default-installed ROM. I installed the "TNT VOIP" and the sound is coming from the rear speaker.
I guess someone has been able to get the WM6-VOIP tool working with the front speaker. Could this person perhaps create a CAB so that we can also use this.
Would be great.
Thanks.

I am using voip on Kaiser with Dutty's Touchflo ROM. Got it set up with voip.com and the call quality is lousy (choppy, jitter, etc.). It's about the same whether I use wifi or 3g. Any recommended solution for this? I know my broadband wifi connection is good since I use the softphone from my laptop over wifi with execellent results. Would trying a different codec help? Also, I can't hear any ringing on my end when I place a call. Anyone else have these issues?

mdvz0r said:
The weird thing is: i installed Dutty_s_Tilt_TouchFlo_Rom_beta.zip which i downloaded 28-nov-2007. This ROM worked perfectly with VOIP through the front speaker. Because i did not really like this ROM (no offence) i now reinstalled my old ROM. Which is the default-installed ROM. I installed the "TNT VOIP" and the sound is coming from the rear speaker.
I guess someone has been able to get the WM6-VOIP tool working with the front speaker. Could this person perhaps create a CAB so that we can also use this.
Would be great.
Thanks.
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Any news about that?!

What i did was install dutty's. After that the language pack and voip6. Works perfectly for one month now.

mdvz0r said:
What i did was install dutty's. After that the language pack and voip6. Works perfectly for one month now.
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Where did you get it? And where you find language pack?! Thanks

double post

mdvz0r said:
What i did was install dutty's. After that the language pack and voip6. Works perfectly for one month now.
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Has anyone else tried this pack without the language pack? and confirm that native VOIP works using the front speaker.
thanks

mdvz0r said:
The weird thing is: i installed Dutty_s_Tilt_TouchFlo_Rom_beta.zip which i downloaded 28-nov-2007. This ROM worked perfectly with VOIP through the front speaker. Because i did not really like this ROM (no offence)
Thanks.
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How was the audio quality while speaking through the front speaker? Have you been able to work it out with the cooked ROM?

Record the onCall conversation.

Hi,
Yesterday I have seen an excellent piece of software on my friend’s Nokia phone. It is about to save the conversation.
If you are in the middle of a call or initiating a call, that software prompts you that “Do you want to save the conversation”, [YES/NO]. if "yes" it saves the audio file in the memory card. I am very impressed with it.
Guys do you know whether we have this type of software for our new WM6 device, I am using HTC TYTN II.
Thanks for the help.

Voice call's can't be recorded. Harware Issue !

Resco Audio Recorder
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.

mwpeters said:
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
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Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.

pda_crazy said:
Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/

qp_ch said:
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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Doesnt work...

Call recording softwares won't work because the OS doesn't have access to what's being sent to the phone speaker.
I don't know, however, if that would be possible using a wired/BT headset.

good is maybe LIVEPVR
I used program LIVEPVR but only on eten M600+, mio M500 and works ok(when I set microphone correctly).
On Kaiser I will use also but I must again buy this product because upgrade is no free for old user. On handango it's cost only £6.49 .
I used this soft about two year and I record a lot of phone call.

This has been discussed several times before. The only way you can record both parties in a phone call on the Kaiser is to have the phone in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound. This is true with almost all of HTC's PPC phones. One of the few that can do it is the HTC Athena. Buy it if you have plenty of money to burn and are willing to take the risk of becoming the laughing stock of your neighborhood walking around with that brick pressed to your head...

Yup, no flawless recording on the Kaiser, sorry.
Also see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Audio and call recording, answering machines for mor einfo on this subject.

What if you are using a wired/BT headset? Software can control what passes through to the headphones right? Has it been tried already?

Ive never been able to record calls with resco voice recorder on the kaiser either. It works fine on my wizard though. on the kaiser it doesnt even create a call folder while on the wizard I had a call folder with all incoming and outgoing calls.

Not that I need this function, but WOW my old treo 650 that is collecting dust can do this.

updates?
any changes on this?

Yes, there's a solution on it's way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783

Newbie: Skype over phone instead of speaker

Hello
I just installed Skype for smartphones on my new S730 and the connection works like a charm. However, so far the sound is only played over the phone's loudspeaker. Is there a way to change that, so I can skype using the S730 like a normal phone?
Thanks.
Rob

Currently it's not possible. When calling with Skype, just turn round the phone.

use headphones

I have another question. Is there a way to use Bluetooth handsfree with skype. When i connect my bluetooth handsfree and make call over skype, the sound come from loadspeekers. Works only with wired (headphones) handsfree.

The "issue" is that the API [for sound output] used for VoIP is the same as the Windows Mobile OS (like media player, ringers...) use; not the same the phone uses.

thanks for the answers, guys!
that sucks! any hope this will get resolved sometime soon?
cheers!
rob

Oh, I don't think its solved "soon". Or somewhere in the future. I have had a qtek 2020i and already in those ancient days, I had the problem that it was not possible to use a BT-headset for voip-connections.
For the 730:
Whats about using a stereo-bluetooth headset? Its made only for listening music?!
So, could work for voip/skype too?!?

stopfen said:
Oh, I don't think its solved "soon". Or somewhere in the future. I have had a qtek 2020i and already in those ancient days, I had the problem that it was not possible to use a BT-headset for voip-connections.
For the 730:
Whats about using a stereo-bluetooth headset? Its made only for listening music?!
So, could work for voip/skype too?!?
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I suppose that would work, depending on which API VoIP uses to output sound. If it is the same that music uses, then yes, it would work. I'm going to guess it is since wired the stereo headphones work.

Try here:
http://www.teksoftco.com/

Skype & Fring

A brief survey to sastisfy my own curiosity:
How often do you guys use these apps?
If so, do you find them functional?
Do you use Bluetooth Audio or stick it out with the speaker?
Do you use them on 3G, Wifi only, or even Edge?

For me qaulity is rubbish on both using wi-fi so I don't bother anymore

I agree, Skype sounded like poo over wi-fi, and fring doesn't even open on my phone anymore.

On HTC Herald, using Skype, the call quality was crap because first, I was with Tmobile and edge was too slow. I got the kasier tytn II, and switched to at&t. Skype call quailty was alittler better now with their 3g and wifi. But then I begain to learn about different radios frequencies and how they can significantly increase/improve your reception. My skype stutters very little and the call quality is very good over 3g.
I don't use it often (twice a week maybe) I mainly use it to save my (anytime) minutes during the day and it comes in handy with I want to make international phone calls. I may just upgrade to the $99/month (Unlimited calling) plan
But in a nutshell, I believe you can improve your Skype (or Fring) call quality by experimenting with different radios.
Bluetooth and skype? Something I don't recommend, but I prefer the wired head set with Skype.
Hope this helps

Looks like that fring was not prepared that WM 6.1 will appear. Everyone who has this version of WM is not able to use fring now. used to have fring over wife - quaility was fine. skype is heavy memmory eater so only tested it nothing else

I tried using 3G but the quality was crap.
Wifi works fine for me - I use Skype quite often at home.
I find that using the head set which came with my TyTN II offers far superior call quality than the speaker.

tsoifun said:
Looks like that fring was not prepared that WM 6.1 will appear. Everyone who has this version of WM is not able to use fring now. used to have fring over wife - quaility was fine. skype is heavy memmory eater so only tested it nothing else
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Did she Mind, your wife? And I'm not sure I totally understand your euphemism.

Just installed Skype on my Tilt. All went well, but it seems to only want to be on speakerphone. Also, my call to echo shows no microphone present. I looked for settings to change audio prefs and could not find any. Any suggestions?

I use Skype all the time for overseas calls on both my PC and Kaiser.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 Non Palmsms version and the call quality is fine.
Using Radio 1.64.08.21

So, can I use Skype to make outgoing calls to landlines and other non-skype cell phones? Can I use it to get incoming calls of the same nature?

I read somewhere that Skype and any/all other program will ONLY use the phone speaker. It seems that the only funtions that will use the ear speaker is the phone program. Unfortunately my spearkerphone on my ATT Tilt does not function well or at all. Apparently this seems to be a very common problem with the Tilt... I suppose I can still use Skype for text chatting.

Is this true? I was hoping I wouldn't have to sign up for any minutes with ATT if I had Skype

bigboyhf said:
I read somewhere that Skype and any/all other program will ONLY use the phone speaker. It seems that the only funtions that will use the ear speaker is the phone program. Unfortunately my spearkerphone on my ATT Tilt does not function well or at all. Apparently this seems to be a very common problem with the Tilt... I suppose I can still use Skype for text chatting.
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If you plug in the headset that came with your phone, Skype (Windows Mobile?) will use that instead. Call quality is much better for me using the headset.

I rebooted my router and got Skype to hear me. The quality is not so good with the speakerphone. Unfortunately the Tilt doesn't have a standard wired headset that I know of. I thought maybe the bluetooth headset might work, but it does not connect to Skype at all. It just invokes the voice command dialer...

^It doesn't? The Wing includes one!

I think there is a jack for a stereo headset but not sure which one is compatible... Will have to do some research.

On my kaiser, dutty's 6.1 ROM, fring works better than skype... call quality, connection timings, all are good.. maybe due to HSDPA..

I'm using Skype over HSDPA and WiFi and quite satisfy with it, voice clarity is good (using Sony 970 Bluetooth), good call handling, just don't try to use it over Edge

bigboyhf said:
I rebooted my router and got Skype to hear me. The quality is not so good with the speakerphone. Unfortunately the Tilt doesn't have a standard wired headset that I know of. I thought maybe the bluetooth headset might work, but it does not connect to Skype at all. It just invokes the voice command dialer...
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you need to get a headset that does both handsfree and headset profiles. I have the lubix stereo headphones and it works great both as wireless headphones and handsfree.
For the person thinking about just going with skype as voice, your limited to where you have good 3G connection.

arunprakashr said:
On my kaiser, dutty's 6.1 ROM, fring works better than skype... call quality, connection timings, all are good.. maybe due to HSDPA..
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you got fring to work on WM 6.1. what ver r u using?

Skype for 6.1

Ok maybe im late and every one knows this already, but skype for winmob for 6.1 is available officialy on skype site
UPDATE after a couple of days of use.
-Skype adds an option on the Contacts list you can call skype contacts directly form contacts list.
-Nice clean good resolution and cool specifically UI thats made for VGA 6.1 winmo. Nice icons etc.....
-Great sound quality.
-Im using headphones for Skype talks so the soud coming out of the speaker is not a prob!
Overall performance GREAT!
Highly Recommend.

Sergio PC said:
Ok maybe im late and every one knows this already, but skype for winmob for 6.1 is available officialy on skype site
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It's about bloody time too
Release date is yesterday- I wonder if there's anything different than the one floating around here

At least there is from start a programm icon and the exe isn't anymore in the main memory which gives a advantage of almost 3Mb at your phone.

The changelog says, that they resolved audio routing problems...if they mean sound routing to phone (front) speaker it doesn't work on my diamond. Speech still comes out the top speaker. Anybody maybe got it to work?

Tried it worked but still the back-speaker is used.

-=Dennis=- said:
Tried it worked but still the back-speaker is used.
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Yes and that sucks!!!
Well at least its faster and better looking and better quality than fring.

This "using the main top speaker" has always been a feature of Skype. I don't think it's a bug, but its designed that way.
I believe the earpiece speaker can *only* be used by the phone module of the device, and no other apps can access it.. Maybe some experts can verify my statement.

MasK said:
This "using the main top speaker" has always been a feature of Skype. I don't think it's a bug, but its designed that way.
I believe the earpiece speaker can *only* be used by the phone module of the device, and no other apps can access it.. Maybe some experts can verify my statement.
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Agree, can you use skype with headphones?
O wait ill try right now!
UPDATE 3minslater:
Yes it works headphones pretty cool great sound quality (thanks to Jewels great and fast connectivity set) and a skype designed for 6.1. IMO
what you boys think??

SIP calling can be enabled on the phone (your GPS dies hoewever), but then the sound does go though the right speaker. So yes, it is definately possible to not only use the front speaker, and I'm pretty sure this is not a feature, but just an accepted bug.
PS: Some E-Ten devices can have Skype routed to the internal speaker.

Hey mkhattab, jus wanting to know wht is data package price you are paying to etisalat in dubai... cause i am planning to subscribe to it so tht i can use skype too.... thanx a lot....

Brevi said:
The changelog says, that they resolved audio routing problems...if they mean sound routing to phone (front) speaker it doesn't work on my diamond. Speech still comes out the top speaker. Anybody maybe got it to work?
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at least you guys have audio. No audio on htc 6800 or 6900s (cdma).

once installed it says version 2.2.0.38, skype site says 2.2.0.45 ??
I had a "test" version before and it was already v45.
Nevertheless I now have a home plugin and a new splashscreen.

not working
I have installed skype on my diamond but it doesn't works.....
The program start and after the start screen the device make a soft reset......
Why?

Does Video call work with skype ?

Seems to work on mine, i'm just running the orange rom..
Sucks that sound always goes through loud speaker..
As far as I can see, you cant video call with it yet

SKYPE sprint htc touch mp 6900 windows mobile 6.1 NOT working
anyone know of a work around, or an older versoin of SKYPE that will work properly over the sprint data plan on this phone? sprint touch has no WI-FI.
thanx

Narco77 said:
once installed it says version 2.2.0.38, skype site says 2.2.0.45 ??
I had a "test" version before and it was already v45.
Nevertheless I now have a home plugin and a new splashscreen.
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Same here, are you using the cab or the exe? im using the cab.