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Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract!

Well, according to this article, Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract and $375 with a one-year contract. Btw, the release date mentioned in the article is October 1st.
Link: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/11/tilt-duo-inferno-and-q9h-to-blow-out-atandts-october/

Finally and it is good to here that it will be reasonable priced which will make the device open to more users...thus it will be hacked sooner. We need cooked ROMs casue you know ATT will **** up the OS. First thing we will need to hack the PTT button since ATT PTT is retarded and its one more button that can be useful.

sherpa said:
Well, according to this article, Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract and $375 with a one-year contract. Btw, the release date mentioned in the article is October 1st.
Link: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/11/tilt-duo-inferno-and-q9h-to-blow-out-atandts-october/
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No offense but I think Ill go buy one online if I see another frickin post like this. Not directed at you sherpa, just venting a bit. I am just tired of hearing things like "supposedly" and "we heard" or "rumored" I have had a few sources tell me that it will be this month....PERIOD.... I just want to see a date posted on the site saying it will be released on.... I personally dont care if its 3 ****ing years from now as long as they can just say it rather than the cause the whole guessing game.
O.k. now that I have vented, I'll say that I hope this info is wrong on the October part because I am an impatient child and hope its right on the $299 part

swtaltima said:
No offense but I think Ill go buy one online if I see another frickin post like this. Not directed at you sherpa, just venting a bit. I am just tired of hearing things like "supposedly" and "we heard" or "rumored" I have had a few sources tell me that it will be this month....PERIOD.... I just want to see a date posted on the site saying it will be released on.... I personally dont care if its 3 ****ing years from now as long as they can just say it rather than the cause the whole guessing game.
O.k. now that I have vented, I'll say that I hope this info is wrong on the October part because I am an impatient child and hope its right on the $299 part
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Dude, I feel the same way too. I get frustrated hearing all these rumor dates but at the same time get excited. Just like you, I would rather hear a firm date from AT&T (be it three years from now) but it would at least make me constantly visiting different sites all the time. Now, I also hope info posted on the link above is wrong (the date part, that is) and hope the date is something earlier than that.

wpbear said:
Finally and it is good to here that it will be reasonable priced which will make the device open to more users...thus it will be hacked sooner. We need cooked ROMs casue you know ATT will **** up the OS. First thing we will need to hack the PTT button since ATT PTT is retarded and its one more button that can be useful.
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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..

well after seeing another date come and go that it was suppost to go live on I just went ahead and ordered mine online. Better to have it then have to deal with the waiting and then if they end up screwing it hard well...

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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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The low price can be justified because of iPhone's price slashes! AT&T is thinking of the whole market and not just of us hardcore users. Majority of the market will compare iPhone and Tilt side-by-side, and with iPhone's bigger screen, brand recognition, built-in memory, and popularity, people will go for the iPhone. So, if AT&T prices both reasonably, Tilt will sell well.

HTCFAN0923 said:
I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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my guess is cuz they're going up against the iphone's price point

HTCFAN0923 said:
I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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I think the front camera and the Tom-Tom Software will be removed and thats all. I think GPS will work but you have to use TeleNav, free google maps, live search or buy your own Tom-Tom. My guess as a geek with no insider info....
I got banned for flaming the asshole 14 year old Tito.
I created a cab file for the Blackjack to auto install overclocking and it works but he was the only one to have a problem. Two forums I posted the cab and he was the only one to need a HR. He *****ed that he lost all his contacts and they were so important. I flamed him cause he tried to blame me for his error and for him not backing up his device. What the **** is so important in contacts that 14 year old has. Anyway I flamed, got banned and told HOFO to **** off. I still read over there and can not stand the stupidity that runs rampant on that bored. Change the name on hofo to "here's your sign" (Redneck Comedy)

Either AT&T has been court ordered to donate to charity, or they have severely crippled the Kaiser. I refuse to believe that $299 price point...

Poetique said:
Either AT&T has been court ordered to donate to charity, or they have severely crippled the Kaiser. I refuse to believe that $299 price point...
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I am very surprised, I would of thought $399 and they drop the 8525 to $249. But I like charity

yea that 299 price point does not seem correct being the 8525 cost more. Also the 8925 is suppost to be a flagship type phone for them for highend users and lower end peps then have the Icrap, or the pantach 810 also the blackjack still and a handfull of other pda type phones.

No way it's 299.
and 200 in amazon.com ???
8525's retail price is 599 from att. With a 2 year contract it's 450, which after rebates and everything else it comes down to 350.
the HTC Tytn II is 800 on mobileplanet.com and 850 on htcphonestore.com.
If the carrier branded ones were 300$ cheaper (which is never the case, carrier branded phones are usually 100-150 cheaper than htc branded ones) then ATT's would be 500.
If that was the price everybody would buy one signing up for a 2 year contract and cancel their contract after a month.
Ending up spending 375 or 475 (which is still better than 800)
I'm guessing the retail price is probably going to be around 650-750 and the price with a 2 year contract be around 500-600.

I think everyone is failing to see the point... and most of you are right, its probably not $299 up front... i would bet though that its 299 AFTER rebate....
wpbear.. its always good to be banned from somewhere... even i was banned from the cingular forums for speaking out about their poor moderation or lack there of...

shogunmark said:
wpbear.. its always good to be banned from somewhere... even i was banned from the cingular forums for speaking out about their poor moderation or lack there of...
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Is that "street cred" like a rapper needs to sell albums. At least I only have to get banned and not shot like a rapper.

wpbear said:
Is that "street cred" like a rapper needs to sell albums. At least I only have to get banned and not shot like a rapper.
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[email protected], guess i will put my shiney gun away...

shogunmark said:
[email protected], guess i will put my shiney gun away...
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Man.... we didnt need to hear about how you polish your gun....

wpbear said:
I think the front camera and the Tom-Tom Software will be removed and thats all. I think GPS will work but you have to use TeleNav, free google maps, live search or buy your own Tom-Tom. My guess as a geek with no insider info....
I got banned for flaming the asshole 14 year old Tito.
I created a cab file for the Blackjack to auto install overclocking and it works but he was the only one to have a problem. Two forums I posted the cab and he was the only one to need a HR. He *****ed that he lost all his contacts and they were so important. I flamed him cause he tried to blame me for his error and for him not backing up his device. What the **** is so important in contacts that 14 year old has. Anyway I flamed, got banned and told HOFO to **** off. I still read over there and can not stand the stupidity that runs rampant on that bored. Change the name on hofo to "here's your sign" (Redneck Comedy)
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I agree that Tito kid is so annoying! He seems like a rich little brat and says LOL too much!

killershot20 said:
No way it's 299.
and 200 in amazon.com ???
8525's retail price is 599 from att. With a 2 year contract it's 450, which after rebates and everything else it comes down to 350.
the HTC Tytn II is 800 on mobileplanet.com and 850 on htcphonestore.com.
If the carrier branded ones were 300$ cheaper (which is never the case, carrier branded phones are usually 100-150 cheaper than htc branded ones) then ATT's would be 500.
If that was the price everybody would buy one signing up for a 2 year contract and cancel their contract after a month.
Ending up spending 375 or 475 (which is still better than 800)
I'm guessing the retail price is probably going to be around 650-750 and the price with a 2 year contract be around 500-600.
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Keep in mind that AT&T likely sees these devices as big recurring revenue streams - particularly text messaging, data usage, and their pay GPS service. These phones are likely to be sold to tech-savvy customers who use these features extensively. As a result they may even sell these devices at a loss.....

if at&t price does indeed end up being $299, is there any possibility of it driving the unlocked price down?

on O2 in 11 days ?

I did see a thread about this somewhere on here but can't find it now.
I called O2s XDA team who said that Stellar (?) will be released on the 15th. Can anyone confirm this as I (meaning Google) can't find any reference to O2 releasing a new XDA on the internet or shall I just move over to T-Mobile?

Spoke to a mate of mine at O2 today, he told me that they won't get this anytime soon. After that I went to the O2 Store, and told them that I'd have to switch providers unless they could tell me that this phone (or any other exciting smart phone...ie HTC Omni,...) would be released on O2 before the end of this year. The guy told me not to hold my breath. ;-)
So now I'm with T-Mobile, and I have to say the phone looks much better than I thought (usually the silver t-mobile finish is quite ugly). Good deal as well.
Hope this helps ;-)
H.

It's definitely coming to O2
Hi,
It's definitely coming to O2 soon. I know someone in the device testing team and they've had several in test for well over a month now.
Only thing I've heard is that in the O2 ROM there's no HTC Home ... so you need to install your own.
Brian

I spoke to the XDA line at O2 on Friday, and they said sometime before christmas...
Sooo waiting until the 15th, then getting a bluetooth GPS and sticking with my Uni (XDA Exec) if a more firm date isn't available!

I've just been on the phone to O2 about cancelling my contract with my O2 XDA Mini S, which runs out in a month. They asked about why I was cancelling it, and I said about moving to T-Mobile for the Vario III. I half expected them to say "well, we're releasing a very similar product in xxx time" since my contract isn't fully up yet, but all the guy said was to check the website for other phones and touted the XDA Trion (TyTN) as a phone to look at.
Unless he's just not a very clever salesperson, I wouldn't expect anything new on the O2 XDA scene for quite a while, or he would've probably tried to get me to stay and wait for it. Plus, they have a certain other phone they may be trying to push to the "smartphone" market coming out in a few weeks...

myk_83 said:
I've just been on the phone to O2 about cancelling my contract with my O2 XDA Mini S, which runs out in a month. They asked about why I was cancelling it, and I said about moving to T-Mobile for the Vario III. I half expected them to say "well, we're releasing a very similar product in xxx time" since my contract isn't fully up yet, but all the guy said was to check the website for other phones and touted the XDA Trion (TyTN) as a phone to look at.
Unless he's just not a very clever salesperson, I wouldn't expect anything new on the O2 XDA scene for quite a while, or he would've probably tried to get me to stay and wait for it. Plus, they have a certain other phone they may be trying to push to the "smartphone" market coming out in a few weeks...
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I had the same experience, so I got my PAC code & am awaiting my T-Mobile MDA Vario III

Hahahahahaha, you actually think most of the sales staff are clever.
I'm sure some are but most don't have a clue.

myk_83 said:
Plus, they have a certain other phone they may be trying to push to the "smartphone" market coming out in a few weeks...
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I don't mean to be funny but the Apple iPhone is far from a smartphone its an ipod with phone guts. Its about as good as the LG Prada phone which feels ****tier than a bush walkman from the 80's.
Russ

Deathace said:
I don't mean to be funny but the Apple iPhone is far from a smartphone its an ipod with phone guts. Its about as good as the LG Prada phone which feels ****tier than a bush walkman from the 80's.
Russ
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Totally agree, there is nothing "smart" about the iPhone. It is, as stated, an Ipod with a phone attached. No push contacts, tasks, calendar or email. there are lots of nice animations on it that make it look pretty but as with most mac products actually make it slower to use.
Anyway this is way off topic, any news on the Kaiser on ot. I suppose the day will come when the thread title is actually true

I totally agree about the iPhone, about unfortunately it seems everyone jumps on bandwagons rather quick these days, and I reckon O2 will try and push the iPhone as something that it isn't. They'll be telling everyone to buy that instead of an XDA, and keeping back new XDAs so they can milk the iPhone to unsuspecting public.
But I like to think the people on this forum, especially, are wise to their ways, and anyone still on O2 will be swiftly signing up to T-Mobile anyway! Just like me

Anyone else have any updates ?

How much is a Vodafone branded Kaiser worth?

Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks

Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.

Jozer99 said:
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Hmmm...I agree with some of what you say about the Atoms now after doing some more research.
One thing that's struck me is the customer service feedback about the Atom's manufacturers. Very few have anything nice to say about the service they received if something went wrong with their device. I'd be in fear of ever needing them.
The main things that have attracted me to the Atom phones so far is the use of Intel Xscale chips, better video support and the use of Sirfstar III chipsets for GPS. I don't need a high spec camera so I'm not bothered by the lack of high pixel capture.
In my experience of using old HTC devices (Universal, Magician) and some new ones (Trinity / P3600 and Kaiser), the older ones seemed faster for some reason. I don't know for sure but the Intel architecture seems better than the Qualcomm.
Also, the Sirfstar III GPS hardware wipes the floor with Qualcomm's equivalents in my experience and doesn't need QuickGPS to get a very fast lock in a built up city like London where I live.
Why did HTC start using these dodgy Qualcomm chips?
I'm still undecided...I just hate waiting with computers / PDAs etc...They should just work, and work fast. Maybe I'm asking for too much.

Anymore opinions?

You in the UK? Is the V1615 on contract?
Not impressed by those Atoms...

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Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!

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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case

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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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I was gonna say! the kaiser isnt that bad mate, i havent come accross one issue with regards to graphics, plus, got a kiddies psp for games!!, sat nav works faultlessly, good quality phone, my battery life is fine. Keep it
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.

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If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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No it's not - it's 100% your property, and your problem. That's not conditional on anything. The contract debt is separate - you owe them the value of that regardless of what you do with the phone. Sell it, keep it, give it back to them, you still owe the contract sum whatever you do.

selling phone
sell htc
wait 4/5 months
go get sony xperia ..
simple
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have a look at the glofish 800 series

Please help!!

Please help. I am torn between getting the Apple Iphone and the HTC Touch Diamond 2. I think i'm set on the diamond 2 but I've read about a lot of niggly problems with it which is preventing me from making the step. For example, the mp3 player.
Is it really that good?
Any advice is hugely appreciated!

MP3 player? well let me tell you one thing, i had 2 ipods one for the office and one for home.
NOW I am afraid that they have become obsolete to me, since i got my 32GB memory card. TD2 will do it! but bear in mind that you will be putting some pressure on your battery if you are using the device for the gps, phone and mp3.
Anyway i bought myslef xpal xp2000 just in case i run out of power.
Anyway getting back to your question, there is nothing wrong withthe mp3 and if you are not happy with the default player, you can instal many free 3rd party's software, like oxygen or S2P...
WITH THE DIAMOND2,THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!!!
I RECOMMEND IT
I HAVE HAD THESE PHONES FOR YEARS SINCE THE FIRST XDA GENERATION

i was torn like you before, cause i like apple so much, but who make my mind to have my diamond 2 that i found IPhone every time they will release an OS version you need to wait for the jalibreak to run your application from Cydia etc,,,,,,. which will make me unable to test and play with my phone as i would like. So i Decided to get my Diamond 2 and i am happy with it.

It was the freedom to install what you like on the phone that tempted me...and that it will get Windows Mobile 6.5 later in the year to iron out any niggles you mioght find. I'd also say that although people seem to hate them, the option to use a stylus every now and again does come in handy - you can type far faster with the stylus than the iphone touch keyboard, and you can write or draw notes in something like EverNote (very cool app).
One other point that few people seem to mention...the TD2 is much much (much!) cheaper than the iphone. I got mine through mobiles.co.uk for free at £30 a month for more texts and minutes than I'll ever need plus mobile internet. AND £40 cashback that pays for a nice big SD card to store your music! No brainer if you ask me...

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It was the freedom to install what you like on the phone that tempted me...and that it will get Windows Mobile 6.5 later in the year to iron out any niggles you mioght find. I'd also say that although people seem to hate them, the option to use a stylus every now and again does come in handy - you can type far faster with the stylus than the iphone touch keyboard, and you can write or draw notes in something like EverNote (very cool app).
One other point that few people seem to mention...the TD2 is much much (much!) cheaper than the iphone. I got mine through mobiles.co.uk for free at £30 a month for more texts and minutes than I'll ever need plus mobile internet. AND £40 cashback that pays for a nice big SD card to store your music! No brainer if you ask me...
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If you don't mind me asking, which network have you signed up to because I was told that O2's contract does not include free wifi and internet usage and on the mobiles.co.uk webiste, it doesn't state whether the orange contracts do either

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If you don't mind me asking, which network have you signed up to because I was told that O2's contract does not include free wifi and internet usage and on the mobiles.co.uk webiste, it doesn't state whether the orange contracts do either
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It was the "Orange Dolphin 40" - afraid you'll need the 24 month contract to get the mobile browsing. If you click on the TD2 from the mobiles.co.uk home page, then select the orange tab it should be listed as including 500mb data - that's your mobile browsing. Not exactly "unlimited" but it is the same in practice as o2's mobile browsing deal and more than enough for me as I use the wi-fi at home and work anyway.

How long did it take for you to receive the cash back offer from mobiles.co.uk?

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How long did it take for you to receive the cash back offer from mobiles.co.uk?
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Cheque arrived yesterday! That's with me placing the order originally on 14 May. They actually wait 14 days after you receive the phone (you can send it back in that period if you're not happy) then it's supposed to be another 14 to 28 days after that. Were pretty prompt with me though.
Of course if you're happy to wait longer, you get a much better deal with the 9 months half price offer - they send a cheque every 3 months I think.

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Cheque arrived yesterday! That's with me placing the order originally on 14 May. They actually wait 14 days after you receive the phone (you can send it back in that period if you're not happy) then it's supposed to be another 14 to 28 days after that. Were pretty prompt with me though.
Of course if you're happy to wait longer, you get a much better deal with the 9 months half price offer - they send a cheque every 3 months I think.
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Fantastic! I've just ordered mine from the same website. I can't wait for tomorrow now!!
Thanks for your help and everyone else for that matter

arsenal84 said:
Fantastic! I've just ordered mine from the same website. I can't wait for tomorrow now!!
Thanks for your help and everyone else for that matter
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Good choice, and hope you have fun with the phone. I should be charging them commission though...

I realise you already ordered yours, but for others considering the TD2, I am looking at http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n447/p10957.aspx
mobile phones Direct
The contract I'm looking at is the T-Mobile Combi 30 +Web n Walk,
This gives 300mins, 200 Texts + the standard Web n Walk web allowance.
For: £35 a month, with the phone costing £33.
(I know it doesn't mention web on the 'Text & Web' bit, but I emailed them and the confirmed it does include it)
Seems a good deal, I've just got to persuade myself now!

gdayhtc said:
MP3 player? well let me tell you one thing, i had 2 ipods one for the office and one for home.
NOW I am afraid that they have become obsolete to me, since i got my 32GB memory card...........
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Can you give the details on the 32gb memory card and a link if possible? Thank you.

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Can you give the details on the 32gb memory card and a link if possible? Thank you.
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hey dude, friend fo mine got it for me of HONG KONG...it is called SDTECHS...will try to get you some info

I read somewhere on this forum that the TD2 only recognises 16gb memory cards. Does yours recognise the full 32gb of your card?

Get an X1a or wait a while for X2?

Hey, Sorry to spam with a general question.
My current phone is on it's death bed (SE P900). I want to upgrade to an X1a (via rogers in canada) but i'm a little worried if I should or wait it out for an X2. I'm over all very keen on getting either an X1 or X2 (due to an actual keyboard and a stylus based touch screen, I just can't use an iphone touch screen at all, plus the OS pisses me off). I'm also looking to maybe do some xperia panel programming on the side (mostly making some small simple games with some simple use of 3d).
I think I could wait it out for an X2 but i'm worried it's going to be a long 6-8 months+ before it's available in canada. Not to mention I expect the price to be a little too high for a while. Yet if I get an X1a now, my wife is not going to let me upgrade again for another 2-3 years. =)
So should I wait or just go a head and get an X1 now?

if you want to wait i suggest you hold out for a snapdragon powered device that you prefer. If you dont want to wait just get the X1. The X1 and X2 share the same hardware apart from certain differences, so your not really losing anything hugely important

Not sure what price your getting from rogers, but i got my x1a just awile ago for $1 signing a 3 year contract so i pretty much had nothing to lose upgrading. I usually do a hardware upgrade every 1-2 years and sign a new contract with a better plan each time. I highly suggest talking with customer relations as only they can give you better deals than whats advertised.

How much is Rogers letting you upgrade the phone for? I think I'm getting ripped off through customer relations...
PsychoAssassin: When did you sign the 3 year contract? I did mine last week and it was absolutely nowhere near $1...

PsychoAssasin,
What is your current plan? I'm kind of happy with my plan that I got 6 years ago.
Rydock said:
How much is Rogers letting you upgrade the phone for? I think I'm getting ripped off through customer relations...
PsychoAssassin: When did you sign the 3 year contract? I did mine last week and it was absolutely nowhere near $1...
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Back durring christmas, if you signed a 3 year contract they were giving away a X1 for only $1.

personally I would get x10 or the newer android models
as wm7 is likely to be closed land for other wm devices
and wm6.X is a dead platform

I renewed my contract and chose the $50/month plan with a couple of freebies on top. They're charging me $149 + $35 administration for the X1 with a $50 "hardware upgrade" mail-in rebate. The site says the phone is only $99 for a 3yr term, so what's the deal? Does the hardware upgrade rebate take off the $50 I was supposed to be saving to begin with? Something doesn't sound right, but the lady I spoke to told me that was the price that was showing up for her. I'm defnitely going to call back to see if there's anything I can do, since I like this phone. I'm still under the 15 days grace period.
PSmonkey64: How much are they charging you for the X1? I definitely want to get a better price for mine.

hardware upgrade prices can and will most often differ from new contract prices. But recently Rogers has changed their hardware upgrade policy to now say that all clients are eligible for new customer pricing after 2 years. So Rydock if it has been 2 years you are eligible to get the X1a for $99 + $35 admin fee. On top of that you can use the $50 mail in rebate to effectively bring the cost down to $49.99 + $35 admin fee. This policy doesnt apply to corporate customers, which is why I had to pay about $300 (without signing up for data) for it about 2 months after it came out on the rogers network
regarding the grace period, remember its 15 days or 30 mins of talktime whichever comes first.
PSmonkey64,
if you are dead set on getting a sony ericsson Xperia, Rogers will be getting the X10 in Q2. If you were to wait for an xperia let that be the model of choice

Yeah, I've been with Rogers for over 3 years, and they were asking for $149. I'll give them a call tomorrow to sort this out.
I haven't put my sim in the X1 yet because I've just been playing around with it to see if I liked it. I've decided to keep it, so I'm just trying to figure a way to get all my contacts from my razr to my X1. Also, I want to use the new sim since my old card is all beat up and scratched. How do I go about doing this, or do I have to call Rogers?
To the OP, sorry for the thread hijack. I'd say the X1 would be totally worth it because of the low price and supposed slightly stronger units. Also, there is tons of support here.

Rydock said:
Yeah, I've been with Rogers for over 3 years, and they were asking for $149. I'll give them a call tomorrow to sort this out.
I haven't put my sim in the X1 yet because I've just been playing around with it to see if I liked it. I've decided to keep it, so I'm just trying to figure a way to get all my contacts from my razr to my X1. Also, I want to use the new sim since my old card is all beat up and scratched. How do I go about doing this, or do I have to call Rogers?
To the OP, sorry for the thread hijack. I'd say the X1 would be totally worth it because of the low price and supposed slightly stronger units. Also, there is tons of support here.
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yea the rogers xperia has a slightly new build which helps prevent cracks, but i did manage to develop one right beside the power bottom, but i would blame myself from the numerous times i dropped it.
your best bet for contact transfer would be to use the moto software to sync contacts with outlook and then sync your x1 with outlook.
for the sim card, call rogers, they will/will not deal with it as im not sure on their policy towards that.

Rudegar said:
personally I would get x10 or the newer android models
as wm7 is likely to be closed land for other wm devices
and wm6.X is a dead platform
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Hmm, why so negative?

I just feel that as it is looking right now
android is a safer bet then wm
wm7 seem to be more a evolution of zuneHD then old wm
and don't think the classic app store from ms will improve too much with more focus being put on wm7

Rudegar said:
I just feel that as it is looking right now
android is a safer bet then wm
wm7 seem to be more a evolution of zuneHD then old wm
and don't think the classic app store from ms will improve too much with more focus being put on wm7
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Well, I kind of disagree on that...
I mean we can only guess but I don't imagine
WM beeing really not open in some way and competitive.

My feeling is that MS will drastically cut the price of WM 6.X to manufacturers, so that there will continue to be a big base. I think we'll continue to see no-frills but nice hardware phones like the LG Expo start to come in at the $400 price range and below. The WP 7 phones will get all the press and be the headline phones for the carriers and cost $600-$800 unsubsidized. I think MS will just gradually improve the finger friendliness and look of WM 6.X with a few more releases. As processors and hardware improve, it should become a fast and lightweight OS. Not a bad outlook, in my opinion.

Well just to note an update.
I end up coughing up the extra $$$ (and convincing the wife) and buying an X2. The reason being I saw one on ebay being sold by a person only 10 mins away that was barely used.
So far i'm loving it. I do have a question for anybody who might know, How do I get the X2 to auto connect to my home's wifi when i'm home? Messing/configuring the phone i've had to restart it a few times and every time it starts with wifi turned off.
Now to figure out how the hell to setup the xperia sdk (the emu isn't properly running, also it seems I can't debug opengl ES with it?).

take a Toshiba TG01. it's much cheaper.

Both X1 and X2 use legacy CPU... I think you may consider other alternatives...

Too... late.
If only people would read newer post.
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