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I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
Drag and scroll.
Highlight and copy text
Save images
Successfully renders web pages more frequently than does the IE - IMHO
herpi said:
I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
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Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
EDIT: Update to above entry. PIE now has a fix for scrolling issue - downloadable here: IE Slow Scroll Fix for Kaiser_Tilt.cab
Mike
mikechannon said:
Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
Mike
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Gotcha!
Tested them both with a longer page and the difference is clear.
Thanks for your input.
Huib
Hi!
can Opera-mini and other apps be run from the memory card satisfactorily?
i.e are they slower?
I wonder if my other applications such as Resco Explorer 2007 and Code Wallter can be run from the card too?
Ofiaich
Don't take what I say as gospel but when I had Opera installed on the SD card it didn't function completely correct - like didn't follow email links correctly along with a couple of other glitches etc.
Likewise I have always been a bit hesitant to install things that operate so cloely with the OS, like Resco Explorer, to the card. They have always seemd to work much better on the main memory. Just my opinion.
Thus I have Opera mini and Resco Explorer installed on the main memory while just about everything else I have on the SD card.
jcrompton!
Thanks very much! Sounds good to me, and I have space in the main memory!
I will get on and download Opera mini !
Ofiaich
Opera Can Handle Regular Youtube!
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile). I say this because i tested it for myself, a while ago on my mda vario or vario 2 (sorry cant remember). What seemed to be a slight problem though was, it ran out of memory frequently (ram) and as such the program would not start if other applications were running in the background.
Opera users on WM6, your reviews and thoughts on this are much appreciated!
gogol;1566087 said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??
jcrompton said:
Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??
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I have Opera Mobile... Are ppl actually saying to try Opera Mini? I will if thats the case.. But it's made for phones not WM6 devices.
JB
opera mini? that's a java midlet. why wouldn't it work on the kaiser?
gogol said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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OK - so I just figured out how to get Opera Mini work via the Java app under programs -- have you been able to get email links and other http links to automatically be opened by Opera Mini - I made some registry changes to get Opera Mobile to be the default browser, can you get Opera Mini to do that ? (wasn't sure since it is buried as a Java program)
stryker1355 said:
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile).
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....Opera Mobile though is the bomb! I just wish it was free like the Mini version is, but it's good enough to pay for anyway. PIE just is not very good at rendering most webpages.
opera is very good browser but the built in pie some times show websites better than opera example http:\\www.xda-developers.com
maryjos said:
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
Does opera support flash videos?
mikechannon said:
I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
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Are you able to "auto" load links like from an email
swamp2 said:
Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
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I just hit YouTube with Opera on mine and any 'watch now' links open the video for streaming in WMP. Is that normal?
Hi everybody. I'm having a weird Opera Browser issue. I got Opera for mobile but it simply doesn't respond to the touch screen! Also, when I go to settings, I can't click any setting, it simply doesn't respond. Any idea?
Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling? Which version did you install?
axonn said:
Hi everybody. I'm having a weird Opera Browser issue. I got Opera for mobile but it simply doesn't respond to the touch screen! Also, when I go to settings, I can't click any setting, it simply doesn't respond. Any idea?
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I have never seen such an issue with opera ... As suleeto suggested an un-install and re-install is a good start but what do you have installed on your phone as well . maybe a conflict with another program And I believe I have tried almost every version including all betas of opera.
DId you down load the right one for PPC and not smartphone (maybe)?
Opera
As far as I know it won't even install unless it's the right OS. I got Opera Mobile v8.65 ppc.
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As far as I know it won't even install unless it's the right OS. I got Opera Mobile v8.65 ppc.
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I have installed the wrong version a few times and it doesn't always not install . LOL .... But still i never seen his problems even with bad files.
Opera
Is it wrong to have Opera for Pocket PC? Should I have some other Opera?
do you have a cooked rom with a cube? I had dutty rom and it wouldent work with the cube enabled.
Jonathan1683 said:
do you have a cooked rom with a cube? I had dutty rom and it wouldent work with the cube enabled.
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Let me try and install it with a cube and see...... will post back in a few.
Ok ... I installed opera mobile 9.5 beta and it works flawlessly with the cube.
Here is their video so you can see how sweet it is.
http://www.opera.com/b2b/solutions/mobile/video/
PURESKILLZZZ said:
Ok ... I installed opera mobile 9.5 beta and it works flawlessly with the cube.
Here is their video so you can see how sweet it is.
http://www.opera.com/b2b/solutions/mobile/video/
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I found a link that I didn't really trust for 9.5. Where did you get the 9.5 cab?
jcrompton said:
I found a link that I didn't really trust for 9.5. Where did you get the 9.5 cab?
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Cant post that here and im not sure if I can post a download link either. Let me see whats is allowed on the site .
PURESKILLZZZ said:
Cant post that here and im not sure if I can post a download link either. Let me see whats is allowed on the site .
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Sorry - I had a brain lapse there.
I sent you an email
I been looking thru the rules. I don't see opera 9.5 beta for sale either so I don't think its not allowed. If it is PLEASE a mod or someone say so and ill remove the links for it. This isn't my work its from a guy named minhlamdr . I don't take credit for other peoples finds.
http://rapidshare.com/files/101337145/Opera_Mobile_9.5_Beta.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/101337491/Opera_Mobile_9.5_Beta_standard_skin__Patch_for_QVGA_.zip
today i read a news about a new upcoming browser named skyfire.
and what i am asking me: when the open beta comes to my country and i install it on my diamond... can i change the default browser für touchflo3d?
here is a version i tried using. only half the screen is skyfire and the other half is today screen. check it out. maybe it works for you.
Skyfire is a pretty good web browser for mobile phones. It was apparently found to be the fastest - mostly because it renders the pages from a central server.
I believe you have to register with them to fully use the software (you need a Skyfire account).
Also, there is a new release, but it still does not support VGA devices yet.
- Keirmeister
yes but can i change the default browser in touch flo 3d?
maybe in some time no one wants to use opera and all want to use skyfire.
seemts that its just a simple shortcut to change.
Skyfire is not compatible to VGA right now.
I tried out Skyfire on my diamond and there is a workaround the half screen problem. Other than the fact that flash works, i don't think it is better than Opera 9.5 at least not until a VGA version comes out.
I uninstalled Skyfire and now I have the problem where PIE is now my default browser instead of Opera. Whenever I tap on a link on my rss reader or email, it goes to PIE by default. Is there a way to change my default browser back to opera?
Just Re-run the WM_6_HTC_PPC_Opera9.cab in your windows directory, and it will re-install Opera and fix the link issues. Your bookmarks, history and other browsing data will not be harmed.
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
Hi,
Installed on my MDA Compact and it works well. However, it won't connect using wifi.
Any solutions?
Regards
raines43 said:
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
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I just downloaded it too and mananged to get a video playing from the iPlayer but I don't get any sound. Did you have any issues with sound at all?
(I'm on Dutty's V3.2 ROM)
To answer another question the latest version works on VGA but allegedly not on WVGA so Touch HD users may be disappointed. You can download it here http://get.skyfire.com/ and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
andy2111 said:
and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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Maybe... but uninstalling it even when it's not default resets your default browser to PIE. Which sucks.
i cannot download it,has anybody have vga cab?
Just open http://get.skyfire.com/ in your mobile browser, you'll get to download the cab directly from the phone!
i have opened it 100 times but i cant download,it always get me back to getskyfire.com.
i am not in usa,i am in europe,can somebody please post/upload cab???
Yes, here u go....
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
new beta version Skyfire
Code:
[URL="http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html"]http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html[/URL]
intel286 said:
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
intx said:
This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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can i somehow change thiis?
or can i get flash in opera?
You can get flash in opera mobile
Check the developments and hacking forum on XDA, it's near the top.
Look for Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 and a compatible Opera build =]
Just installed it on my Diamond. Lightning fast. Never saw such a performance with Flash on a mobile. Forget everything else.
Think one reason why it's so fast: the Proxy sends only ONE file containing all subfiles of a web page.
Should be standard browser on the cooked roms
Skyfire... OK!
I agree, it is pretty good. The only thing I find is the screen isn't as sharp as Opera - an the virtual scroll wheel doesn't work in Skyfire to zoom in and out... a feature I just can't live without!
and where we can get this skyfire?????????
intel286 said:
and where we can get this skyfire?????????
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get.skyfire.com
I have BIG privacyissues with skyfire's proxy.
Read the terms.
mttcee said:
Just installed it on my Diamond. Lightning fast. Never saw such a performance with Flash on a mobile. Forget everything else.
Think one reason why it's so fast: the Proxy sends only ONE file containing all subfiles of a web page.
Should be standard browser on the cooked roms
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Do u mean skyfire's proxy ??
Is that means all my data should pass threw skyfire's proxy ? , If yes it's lame and risky by getting in the future Advertizing and lets don't talk about passwords etc..
Skyfire works the same way as Opera Mini. All web traffic is processed in a central location, compressed, and then sent to your phone.
You should never conduct confidential business over either of these browsers. But it's just dynamite for flash content!
Hi,
i could download skyfire only with the mobile IE. The default OPERA doesn't work with the site http://get.skyfire.com
And it doesn't work, it hangs at the "locating" message...
CU, dc7os
dc7os said:
Hi,
i could download skyfire only with the mobile IE. The default OPERA doesn't work with the site http://get.skyfire.com
And it doesn't work, it hangs at the "locating" message...
CU, dc7os
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Have the same problem.... but hangs on 'Connecting..."
/Pape
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NotATreoFan said:
Skyfire works the same way as Opera Mini. All web traffic is processed in a central location, compressed, and then sent to your phone.
You should never conduct confidential business over either of these browsers. But it's just dynamite for flash content!
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OH RLY??? nice tip!
grahamkdt said:
I agree, it is pretty good. The only thing I find is the screen isn't as sharp as Opera - an the virtual scroll wheel doesn't work in Skyfire to zoom in and out... a feature I just can't live without!
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I totally agree, in fact I'd say the image quality is absolute rubbish, it's like using some old WM5 application. Hope this is corrected in future releases.
Does also feel very beta as well but it is a beta anyway lol.
Is good to see BBC iplayer working though
Can't wait for future release
non us
glad to see i can now try this....fingers crossed
will try when i get home now
Hello
As far as I know,that Mozilla Fennec is nowadays available only for desktop emulated or Linux Nokia N810 version.
Now,I have read this new...
http://www.msmobilenews.com/windows...refox-named-fennec-and-released-in-alpha.html
You can see the screenshot up-right taken from WM device(seems to be as our,depending on scheme).
So my question is:
How can we start it under Windows Mobile? I didn't found any WM installation.
if you ever find out please pm me.
On the wiki of the mozilla website, it looks like the release is somewhere next week. link.
i read about it. It has to release in a week.
Here is an article you can read:
http://www.wmexperts.com/firefox-mobile-may-be-touch-pro-next-week
They are targeting an Alpha release in the first week of Feb. I can't wait to try it out.
Ask of now, there are no offical downloads, yet.
Another article:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5140839/firefox-mobile-headed-for-windows-mobile-as-early-as-next-week
i understand the hype about it and everything,
but you know skyfire is based of firefox's source code right?
i dont know how much dif it will be
thoughtlesskyle said:
i understand the hype about it and everything,
but you know skyfire is based of firefox's source code right?
i dont know how much dif it will be
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Skyfire is a SERVER application; a server processes websites and returns data to your phone via the client application. Your phone never directly browses websites, everything goes through Skyfire servers. This is similar to how Opera Mini works.
Fennec is a true client browser, like Opera Mobile, IE, NetFront.
In otherwords, Fennec and Skyfire are completely different.
oh ok, i did see it has tabbed browsing does anybody know if it will have flash?
thoughtlesskyle said:
oh ok, i did see it has tabbed browsing does anybody know if it will have flash?
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I dont see anything thats says it supports flash. I would imagine that if it did support flash it would be made very clear as it would be a great "selling point"
New Skyfire build
In the mean time: there is a new Skyfire build 81xx which now seems to is realy VGA compatible. Yust brose with IE to get.skyfire.com, chose touch based wm 6 and off you go. Have fun, screen looks much better now.
jsmith8858 said:
Skyfire is a SERVER application; a server processes websites and returns data to your phone via the client application. Your phone never directly browses websites, everything goes through Skyfire servers. This is similar to how Opera Mini works.
Fennec is a true client browser, like Opera Mobile, IE, NetFront.
In otherwords, Fennec and Skyfire are completely different.
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Isn't Opera a Server app as well?
I thought the only browsers that contacted the websites directly was IE and NetFront.
here's more recent leaked shots: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1737
The pre-release version does not run well at all...
Comsat said:
In the mean time: there is a new Skyfire build 81xx which now seems to is realy VGA compatible. Yust brose with IE to get.skyfire.com, chose touch based wm 6 and off you go. Have fun, screen looks much better now.
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Cant find this... True VGA?
just go to skyfire.com with IE and download it from the screen that comes up, i wish i would have told me there was a new version availible
exactly, they claim that you get a new menu item if there is an update, never seen it though.
Runs quite nice, true flash support including youtube direct play. Just a litle bit slower as Opera mini.
For me the third browser when you realy need flash support.
thoughtlesskyle said:
just go to skyfire.com with IE and download it from the screen that comes up, i wish i would have told me there was a new version availible
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Is there a new skyfire that supports VGA? I went on the site but doesn't show the version..
I have read about pre-release build of Fennec,but experiences are very bad for now. We will see next week,how it will be. I want to try Skyfire as well,but it is available only for US as my informations are. Or is it working in EU as well?
It is available in EU to, just go to "get.skyfire.com" and download the WM 6 version. Go there with IE as you need a WAP browser.
Yes, the pre release of fennec sucks...